Enjoyed that, I Grew up near Jamaica road. I moved away from the area 12 years ago to the Norfolk coast, haven't been back for a while but it's looks a lot different in places. I like the peace and quiet of where I am now but would move back in a heartbeat if I could afford it. 🦁👍
The mock Tudor building you liked is a former pub. You can find photos of that very same spot from the 1960s before the place was redeveloped and it will break your heart - the whole of Jamaica road resembled what upper street in Islington still looks like today - architecturally rich and beautiful. Across the road from that pub directly opposite the T junction where the tower block now stands used to be a beautiful row of Victorian shops that all survived the blitz and in the middle was a stunning theatre - the star music hall - with an unusual triple arch entrance - when the nearby Rotherhithe overground station was restored they incorporated an identical triple arch entrance so you can see a small piece of how beautiful the theatre once was. Sadly they threw the baby AND the mother out with the bath water when they redeveloped Bermondsey in the 1970s The bland flats you commented on were built in 2013 and replaced a 1930s development of art deco flats. Great video - fascinating 🎉🎉🎉
Thanks for the info! Knowing that those boxes replaced Art Deco flats is somehow worse. I wonder why the pub was saved, even while the surrounding buildings went? Glad it was though. I’ll have to research some old photos now
The pub was called The Lilliput Hall, I had my stag night there back in 1989. On the opposite side of the road where the war memorial is there used to be the drill hall where hundreds of local lads joined up to fight in WW1 including my Gt Grandfather and where I joined the Army cadets back in 1974.
The Peak Freans buildings are no more. I remember the smell of biscuits and the digital clock that was made up of little bulbs. Everything has been flattened now for a horrid residential development. Bermondsey Street is delightful and I have walked it many times. Thank you for the walk and taking me down the backstreets that I didn't know.
If anyone wondering why so many tanneries , well at one time everything was made of leather - saddles, shoes, jackets, trousers, boots, belts, bags furniture coverings , seat coverings for cabs / stagecoaches
as a tourist visitor to London , I wish Bermondsey and Rotherhithe were more accessible. Thank you for introducing the lovely pie shop Simply fills the eye with the lovely tile work. Have never eaten in such a place and it certainly goes on the mental list for future
They are best accessible using the river Uber boats. I grew up with pie and mash but every non Londoner I’ve taken along doesn’t rate it, so be warned. The shops though are generally great for atmosphere
It is interesting that you brought up the Dickens and Bill Sykes connection, but didn't mention that directly off Jamaica Road is the Dickens Estate - of which one of the blocks is called Pickwick House lol
Fabulous. Always enjoy your walks through London. That pie n mash looked ‘andsome! Looking forward to the next one . ( dare I mention that I actually love ultra modern architecture)
I realise that I’ve two more videos to come where I film in a pie and mash shop but I’ll have to space them out and feature other food before folk think I’m obsessed. Prefer fish and chips but that’s not so photogenic or Indian food but that’s generally an evening occurrence when I’m not on London walks!
I remember the smell of the Sarsons factory on the left and the Peek Freens factory on the right when coming into London Bridge Station back in the early 70's. I've always known the area to the south of the libe as former glue factories and tanners from the 'retired' horses.
As a child, my ‘go to’ road for smelly London was Carpenter’s Road, Stratford. Not my choice - my dad would drive the family to East Ham market along it
@@lycian123 the Sarsons smell would make your eyes water if you were close enough. I lived near Peek Freens and in the 80's you could tell what they were making that day by the smells in the air. If it was savory... it was Twigglets, sweet... Ice Gems, and worst of all (for me) cheesey... Cheese Ritz.
In different weather, I’d have gone to Spa Road to look at the old station and The Blue. But it was really really windy and mostly rainy too that April day. I nearly gave in completely in Tanner Street
I noted the spelling of Tyers Gate, as I born in Tyers St Vauxhall SE11, this is the old English spelling of Tyre. Maybe be the leather industry has something to do with this, putting a leather strap on wooden wheels to give them better grip in the mills?
That was very interesting, but until you reached Butler's Wharf thoroughly depressing. From other comments it's clear that the planners and developers wasted many of the opportunities offered by German bombing raids by getting rid of a lot of the good as well as bad former housing. A few recycled bricks here and there might have helped.
As a kid my dad had a lorry firm at black wall tunnel. He would supply the lard there. Get all my Brocken biscuits. And sherials. Free bebes. Chuck them in the lorry. I use to walk round in pep frens
Fantastic informative video. Thank you for sharing your tours 😊
Enjoyed that, I Grew up near Jamaica road. I moved away from the area 12 years ago to the Norfolk coast, haven't been back for a while but it's looks a lot different in places. I like the peace and quiet of where I am now but would move back in a heartbeat if I could afford it. 🦁👍
London indeed remains a ridiculously expensive city to live in
The mock Tudor building you liked is a former pub. You can find photos of that very same spot from the 1960s before the place was redeveloped and it will break your heart - the whole of Jamaica road resembled what upper street in Islington still looks like today - architecturally rich and beautiful.
Across the road from that pub directly opposite the T junction where the tower block now stands used to be a beautiful row of Victorian shops that all survived the blitz and in the middle was a stunning theatre - the star music hall - with an unusual triple arch entrance - when the nearby Rotherhithe overground station was restored they incorporated an identical triple arch entrance so you can see a small piece of how beautiful the theatre once was.
Sadly they threw the baby AND the mother out with the bath water when they redeveloped Bermondsey in the 1970s
The bland flats you commented on were built in 2013 and replaced a 1930s development of art deco flats.
Great video - fascinating 🎉🎉🎉
Thanks for the info!
Knowing that those boxes replaced Art Deco flats is somehow worse. I wonder why the pub was saved, even while the surrounding buildings went? Glad it was though.
I’ll have to research some old photos now
The pub was called The Lilliput Hall, I had my stag night there back in 1989. On the opposite side of the road where the war memorial is there used to be the drill hall where hundreds of local lads joined up to fight in WW1 including my Gt Grandfather and where I joined the Army cadets back in 1974.
That’s some great local family history!
@@TheUndergroundMap At every stage of your walk I have history and family history. I was even married in Southwark Cathedral :)
The Peak Freans buildings are no more. I remember the smell of biscuits and the digital clock that was made up of little bulbs. Everything has been flattened now for a horrid residential development. Bermondsey Street is delightful and I have walked it many times. Thank you for the walk and taking me down the backstreets that I didn't know.
My pleasure!
And you made me laugh out loud more than a couple of times which is very rare 😂😂😂🎉 bravo and keep it up
I am in Bermondsey lad Thank you ever so much for this video absolutely beautiful thank you
You are very welcome. Glad you enjoyed it!
drove along Jamaica Road many-a-time when i lived in Surrey Quays. love these videos!
Thanks! Jamaica Road was very much the "I got wet" section of the video for me
If anyone wondering why so many tanneries , well at one time everything was made of leather - saddles, shoes, jackets, trousers, boots, belts, bags furniture coverings , seat coverings for cabs / stagecoaches
as a tourist visitor to London , I wish Bermondsey and Rotherhithe were more accessible. Thank you for introducing the lovely pie shop Simply fills the eye with the lovely tile work. Have never eaten in such a place and it certainly goes on the mental list for future
They are best accessible using the river Uber boats. I grew up with pie and mash but every non Londoner I’ve taken along doesn’t rate it, so be warned. The shops though are generally great for atmosphere
I felt the same but, sadly, the pie and mash served in eel and pie shops is watery and bland. That’s my view, anyway, Other palates may disagree.
It is interesting that you brought up the Dickens and Bill Sykes connection, but didn't mention that directly off Jamaica Road is the Dickens Estate - of which one of the blocks is called Pickwick House lol
I’m very lucky to live here. SE1 ❤
I was born at the top of Jamaica rd, and our family moved over to Surrey docks, where we stayed until moving out to Forest Hill in March 1973.
Fabulous. Always enjoy your walks through London. That pie n mash looked ‘andsome! Looking forward to the next one . ( dare I mention that I actually love ultra modern architecture)
I realise that I’ve two more videos to come where I film in a pie and mash shop but I’ll have to space them out and feature other food before folk think I’m obsessed. Prefer fish and chips but that’s not so photogenic or Indian food but that’s generally an evening occurrence when I’m not on London walks!
I was hoping you'd gone right on St Thomas Road towards Vinegar Yard. That's were my great great great grandfather lived.
Next time!
I remember the smell of the Sarsons factory on the left and the Peek Freens factory on the right when coming into London Bridge Station back in the early 70's. I've always known the area to the south of the libe as former glue factories and tanners from the 'retired' horses.
As a child, my ‘go to’ road for smelly London was Carpenter’s Road, Stratford. Not my choice - my dad would drive the family to East Ham market along it
@@lycian123 the Sarsons smell would make your eyes water if you were close enough. I lived near Peek Freens and in the 80's you could tell what they were making that day by the smells in the air. If it was savory... it was Twigglets, sweet... Ice Gems, and worst of all (for me) cheesey... Cheese Ritz.
Very interesting. Thank you.
I can’t believe you missed out The Blue - the true heart of Bermondsey!
In different weather, I’d have gone to Spa Road to look at the old station and The Blue. But it was really really windy and mostly rainy too that April day. I nearly gave in completely in Tanner Street
@@TheUndergroundMap Come down to South Bermondsey where we haven't heard of the Tube yet it's a different world
Just been trying to get my head round the history of Bridge Ward Without. What with that and Clink and Horselydown, it all seems quite surreal.
Without means ‘outside’ (the City) if that helps
Knew them very well indeed lived in purbrook estate and st. Saviours estate.
I noted the spelling of Tyers Gate, as I born in Tyers St Vauxhall SE11, this is the old English spelling of Tyre. Maybe be the leather industry has something to do with this, putting a leather strap on wooden wheels to give them better grip in the mills?
Until I arrived at it during the walk, in my head I had been sure it was ‘Tyler’s Gate’. Your derivation sounds plausible!
In my A_Z 2001 edition, it has Tyers Gate.
Not disagreeing. I meant that I hadn’t concentrated on the spelling until I got there
Fish & Chips Kebab's. At least Johnny's got a correct apostrophe
I remember filming the sign thinking “I’ll mention that apostrophe in the finished video” but then didn’t get around to it
That was very interesting, but until you reached Butler's Wharf thoroughly depressing. From other comments it's clear that the planners and developers wasted many of the opportunities offered by German bombing raids by getting rid of a lot of the good as well as bad former housing. A few recycled bricks here and there might have helped.
Speaking of recycled bricks, I did really like Hop Studios, opposite St Saviours Dock
@@TheUndergroundMap Yes, I quite agree. That's more like it!
As a kid my dad had a lorry firm at black wall tunnel. He would supply the lard there. Get all my Brocken biscuits. And sherials. Free bebes. Chuck them in the lorry. I use to walk round in pep frens