Epson custom media settings - why use them and what they do? P7500/P7570 (includes P700 and P900)
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- Опубліковано 28 лип 2024
- Custom media settings allow for a wider range of papers to be used with some printers and for optimising the print quality for a particular media on a printer.
The examples shown are colour and B&W 36" x 24" prints made on the Epson P7500 (P7570 in the US)
This video follows on from Keith's look at the custom media installer for the P700/900 in:
• Epson P700 P900 custom...
A media setting may be too thick for the manufacturer suggested settings, or you might just want to be able to select a particular paper in the printer driver or printer paper settings.
The free Epson Media Installer software lets you customise printer options and can be used by paper suppliers to distribute paper profiles and settings.
The paper is Fotospeed Platinum Gloss Art Fibre 300
fotospeed.com/platinum-gloss-... - Фільми й анімація
![A large [60" x 24"] panoramic sunset print - colour management and printing strong colours [P7500]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/Yx0e6Nn1b7s/mqdefault.jpg)
![Epson p7500 [7570] first prints, profiling and choices for print quality](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/AXA4XfzGp_A/mqdefault.jpg)
I had to do something similar with Hahnemuhle Rag Baryta. Same problem of stains in the sheet, and now thankfully works fine.
Custom media can make a big difference sometimes.
Solución to head prints marks problem is: Vacum at Max power+adjust manually print head paper separation from settings panel on printer; and for extreme hard curved paper, put over de exit plate paper a little brand new paint wool roller attached to a tripod. This soft paint roller push paper on the plate printer and mantain paper flat at the begining border paper. This is a Mc Gyver way but works perfect and doesnt marks paper at all
A good idea - filed away for future testing ;-)
Another helpful video Keith, thanks. I like it when you show your photography. How about a video showing your workflow?
Thanks
I'm looking at a big print video, but it will be at a fairly general level. I have several videos and articles already covering different aspects (especially B&W) - I'm specifically avoiding 'recipe' type descriptions - I prefer to cover the 'why' far more than the 'how'
Good presentation I have done off a lot of custom paper thicknesses and it works very well thank you so much for the video
Thanks - the P7500 does seem to benefit from this more than some other printers I've used in the past. I just wish Epson [and Canon] would give more information about their basic media types.
@@KeithCooper I must Agree with you I think there’s probably a lot of secrets that they do don’t want us to know about but what the secret is anybody’s guess because Looking at the information there’s nothing there anyway
Truly in-depth and phenomenal advice. My question is this: I'm looking to buy a printer for digital art creations of mine (usually 11x17 or 12x18) and I was wondering if the Epson P900 would be the ideal printer for me, especially since I need to print one art work at a time, as I usually limit my works at 100 pieces per project and print them as orders come in. These works are mostly a combination of vector-based elements and manipulated photos, and I need to print them on extremely high quality paper since I'm selling each one. Thank you for your input and advice!
The P900 is pretty good with sheet feeding (I've a detailed review and quite a lot of videos about it).
Just take care in paper choice to avoid marks and make sure you use the best icc profiles for optimal results.
@@KeithCooper Thank you VERY much. I'll watch your videos before purchasing! Cheers!
Another enjoyable and very informative video. I’m relatively new at printing my photos and have bought a few Marrutt papers. Marrutt have supplied a custom icc for each paper matched to my printer and ink. Will this apply settings for the paper thickness or does that, as I’m sure I picked up in the vid, come from a media setting?
Glad it was of interest. To use the profile you need the media setting that goes with it.
If you've just got the profile, you need to set media type as well
It's possible to make custom media, which include the name of the profile, so that picking the media automatically selects the right profile.
Thanks Keith. I'm always really curious about the vaccum systems in printers. I have the P900 and suffer a lot from smudges and print head scraping the image. Also, since my images often have large areas of the pure black, the pizza wheel marks prevent me from making the perfect images I would like to make. I wasn't even aware of them in my prints until I made prints for a gallery show. The direct spotlights they use show the marks, while diffuse room light does not. Do the vacuum systems really work? I tend to use thick or stiff papers. I'd like to consider buying whatever replaces the P5000, but the deciding factor would be good vaccum and no pizza wheel marks.
Thanks - I just printed a 36" x 24" borderless print on the P7500 and increased the vacuum for this thick paper. You could hear that the printer was noisier. I'm testing Laowa's new 90mm 2x macro lens so have a photo with huge amounts of black - not a mark or a scratch. I'll be using this image for a video about making large prints and why some images just need to be printed large to work ;-)
My feeling is that any P5000 replacement is still quite some time off - the other printer with vacuum feed is the Canon PRO-1000. Now that is definitely due an update some time...
@@KeithCooperGood to hear that. So these printers with vacuum systems don't have pizza wheels in them? It's never been clear to me.
No pizza wheel problems in the P7500 - I need to check the actual settings of the P5000
The P900 problems seem very much paper and individual printer related.
The pizza wheels are how the smaller printers manage borderless and printing to the trailing edge - the 900 has a setting for front feed which I believe lowers the effect - you'll need to check all my P900 stuff to see though - there is an index on the main [written] review
@@KeithCooperjust fixed bad typo in previous comment
David, I have the P5000 and have observed a couple of things that may give some encouragement. I have so far only used the default vacuum setting which was barely strong enough to contain a fairly tough case: the tail end of a 2" core of Epson luster. Not a thick paper but that small radius curl is not to be taken lightly. I believe that I can bump up the vacuum level if necessary. And the groundbreaking news is that in Roll Paper mode it NEVER engages the pizza wheels at all. It's a cut sheet thing thing only. There have been pizza wheel marks on maybe 1% of my cut sheet prints and unfortunately I don't know how to predict if it will or won't occur.
The wheels engage only at time of print ejection of cut sheets at the end of a job. Look into the printer "mouth" with a flashlight during a job and you'll soon learn which clicky-clacky noises associate to those wheels. It seems to me that they could have left the wheels out entirely, and used a 2nd location of vacuum ports further along the exit path, and that would have accomplished whatever they expect the wheels to contribute. But I'm not a printer engineer.
Hi Keith, I have the epson scp700 which I use for printing digital illustrations that I make on my iPad. I use 300gsm linen textured white card (matte) for this, and I find that when I'm printing things that have darker colours on it shows no depth and I lose a lot of the detail. I print through epson photo+ and usually select the media type "epson ultra smooth fine art paper" which works well for the most part, other than with these darker drawings. what would you suggest please?
Is the card specific for ink-jet printing?
Photo+ is very basic - try Epson Print Layout and a paper profile.
See: www.northlight-images.co.uk/epson-sc-p700-printer-review/
BUT... Do note though, that ipads and phones are pretty poor for printing of any quality or accuracy, since colour management is effectively broken.
Hi Keith, have you experienced any skewed image issue? My P7500 seems to print towards the left, when i print something like a 24x48inch print, both long edges doesnt have the same margin size. Never bad this problem with my P5000.
(Skew detect and alignment turned on)
I'm afraid I only had the P7500 here for a few weeks for the review. Not issues I noticed.
I'd suggest asking on the print forum at Luminous Landscape where there are several regular users of the printer
@@KeithCooper i forgot about luminous landscape, i’ll try there, thanks man. Tech’s dropping by too to check it out.
Good Afternoon, i am planning to buy 24inch printer. But i am confused in between epson P7530 and Canon pro 2100/ Canon pro 521. What you think about it. 🙏
Well, the PRO-2100 is almost identical to the pro-2000 I reviewed, and I have a similarly detailed review of the P7500
www.northlight-images.co.uk/canon-imageprograf-pro-2000-printer-review/
www.northlight-images.co.uk/epson-surecolor-p7500-printer-review/
They have some different features which may or may not be of importance - sheet feeding on the P7500 is easier, and there is a straight through print path
@@KeithCooper Dhanyawad, thank you 🙏
Keith, I really enjoy watching your videos; I just wish I didn't react like Nipper, the RCA dog staring at the gramophone horn. As a recent retiree who bought a good camera and an Epson XP15000, I am very new at this whole printing thing. I have seen 2-3 videos where you talked about it. In addition to spending more time on your website, do you have any suggested reading for complete neophyte, printer operator wannabes? To some extent, the more theory and background, the better. So far my experience with the XP15000 has been downright awful. Thank you for all you do.
Thanks
Not a lot I can particularly suggest - for colour management, my favourite is 'Real World Color Management' [Fraser et al.]
For printing, I'm a strong believer in keeping it simple to start with, and really taking time to actually look at prints...
Am I correct in thinking that the Epson media installer groups both the profile and paper together thus allowing the printer to manage the printing option via photoshop
That function is only useful when using the 'auto' function for Epson Print Layout to assign the printer profile for the media selected
It performs no useful function if printing directly from Photoshop - well not quite, on my Mac it moved the profile name from the main list, to the printer's list, making me wonder what had happened to it...
If using a .emy file from a paper provider, it can install a profile IIRC - but this makes no difference to photoshop.
I think this is what you were thinking of?
It's covered in the main [written] P7500 review
www.northlight-images.co.uk/epson-surecolor-p7500-printer-review/
@@KeithCooper Thanks Keith for the response. The reason I ask is because while printing via photoshop I normally let PS manage colour and chose the appropriate profile. With the P7500 if I chose this option the print settings our not available. If I chose let printer manage colour the printer settings are available. Is this correct?
Not sure - the P7500 I tried (Mac only) worked exactly the same as every other printer.
PS manages colour, set the profile in the PS print dialogue, then set the media in the printer driver settings.
The custom media just appeared in the list of media available in the printer driver settings.
If you're on a PC I can't help - not used one for 20+ years ;-)
@@KeithCooper Thanks Keith. I am using a Mac, I will look into it a little further.
Epson Media Installer didn't come with my ET-8550 download package, and I can't find a way to get it from their website?
It doesn't work with the 8550.
It's a tool for 'pro' level printers...
@@KeithCooper ah ok, thanks
Thank you Keith, I am watching your films with pleasure, always very practical and useful, no blah blah blah, please check email
Thanks - will get back to you