I really like this. After all this time I had never called Goku’s evolution “Super Saiyan Grade 4”, but knowing now that the transformations were more than just regular power ups in Super Saiyan, imma start addressing them by that now 😂
@@Jellyman4 why are you making a big deal over this and the only reason why I said that is because all fans should read those guidebooks because they help with a lot of information especially fans who have not seen the series in a long time
@@notamethadict I wasn't turning it into a big deal. You could've worded it better, but I feel after reading your reply to me you had good intentions. My bad bro. 👊😎👌
"So we can already achieve SSJ2, right?" "Right." "So wouldn't it be better if just keep using SSJ2 instead of SSJ1 more often?" "Huh, I never thought of that before."
SSJ: Normal SSJ. Grade 2 SSJ: Big Muscles and Big Hair. Grade 3 SSJ: Bigger Muscles and Bigger Hair. Grade 4 SSJ: Normal SSJ. SSJ2: Lightning comes out for some reason and Big Hair. SSJ3: Loss eyebrows for some reason and Biggest Hair. SSJ4: He grows fur all over his body for some reason and Bigger Hair. SSJG: He slims down and has red hair for some reason. SSJB: His hair is Blue instead of Orange for some reason. SSJR: An out-of-body experience. SSJBE: Darker blue hair for some reason and Big Muscles. Full-Power SSJ: Biggest Muscles and Green hair for some reason.
Super Saiyan Grade 4 is just regular regular Super Saiyan Grade 1 but with efficient energy control and usage. Same multiplier. Goku and Gohan just improved their base power levels a whole lot.
In one of the Spanish magazines for dbz, or it was the back of a manga, it was revealed that grade 3 is a ×10 to SSJ, which means grade 3 is a ×500 multiplier
A question which I always had is whether ssj God is a grade of ssj in the same way that ssj2 and 3 are or is it just apart of a different form line entirely?
@@Mighter343u certain? Because when goku and goham come out of ofnthe time chamber, goku told vegeta he was stronger than him, and this is post super vegeta/grade 3 trunks. Anime, cell saga, dub, from memory
Mainline goku died from heart virus.so i wonder what he looks like in afterlife...... Think about this.... The real Goku watching Alternative Gokus fight In Goku Black and goku saved FROM virus. Probably from king kais planet should of been revived to make ss4 cannon
Maintain the form for weeks never powering down, and your body would just acclimate to that like it was normal form, thus again being able to push your body higher for another form, wish they would do that again like goku did in the cell saga. Man would prolly easily have ssb3 and master that shit with kaioken, would probably put him so far beyond his current u.i, wouldnt even be funny.
That…makes no sense. Goku with ssb Kaioken x20 and Hit were literal fodder to a heavily suppressed Jiren. To the point where Jiren *glaring at them* was a legitimate attack that they had no real defense against because it was simply too powerful. Then Goku unlocked UI Omen (shaking *infinity* in the process), and even then was barely in the same ballpark of heavily suppressed Jiren. Then Goku unlocks an even stronger version of the omen form, matching the power of ssj2 Kefla, who easily knocked out ssb kaioken x20 Goku with a single hit. Then Goku unlocks another even stronger version of omen, matching a suppressed Jiren yet again, but Jiren ended up playing with him having already read all his movements. And then Goku unlocks Mastered UI, which is so strong and fast that Jiren is like a statue moving in slow motion for him to punch at his leisure, and the full power of his suppressed ki can be shattered like glass. And then Jiren unleashes his power, and they clash evenly, but then Jiren gains the advantage of power and overpowers him, then Goku gains a power boost that gives him the advantage again, then Goku gains his final power boost, becoming far more powerful than Jiren, then Jiren briefly powers up to match Goku, then Goku keeps climbing higher and completely decimates him. Goku’s UI climbs multiple rankings of power in that tournament alone, keep in mind that the first appearance of the form was already astronomically stronger than Goku’s best Kaioken x20 performance (oh and yet again, shook infinity). Goku having ssb3 kaioken x20 would only make him 8 times stronger than his best ssb kaioken x20. UI is so far beyond that it’s not even a competition.
Vegeta has both grade 2 and 3. Same as trunks but vegeta doesn't use it because he knows it's disadvantages. Grade 2 isn't actually useless at all, it beated the hell outta SP Cell, if it were grade 3 then cell could've ran away. Goku has all of these by the end of cell saga. Vegeta by super probably has grade 4.
ssj 1 from goku when he vs frieza after that, vegeta trying to surpass it, and become ssj 2 half-cooked😂 (power but slow, thts why goku never use that form,only vegeta n trunk does😂) the 1st person to achieve true ssj2 is Gohan when he go againt Cell after that goku 1st person to gain (ssj3,god,blue,Mui) but for Ssj blue2, only vegeta achieve that(same level as goku blue kaioken) and God Destruction mode, also vegeta #HailPrinceofSaiyanVegeta ❤
I view ssj 2nd and 3rd grades as a saiyan not actually increasing their ki generation like ssj2 and ssj3 but rather grades 2 and 3 are a saiyan increasing their bodies ki capacity ( both of these methods should be used in conjunction with each other basically ssj2 grade 2 is optimal and ssj3 grade 3 is optimal ( for a tailless saiyan) together, just my theory let me know what you think so please reply thanks
I miss the days when Dragonball had forms that mattered and weren't total ass pulls and lame ass color changes to already existing designs. SSJ Blue, Black Frieza, Beast Gohan. The only cool looking forms that came from Super are Ultra Instinct and Ultra Ego.
Goku and Gohan singlehandedly went from the weakest Saiyans to surpassing Piccolo, A17, Imperfect Cell, Semi-Perfect Cell, SsjG2 Vegeta, Suppressed Perfect Cell, while only showcasing 50% of their power. in that order, keep in mind that some of those people are multiple times stronger than the person before them. And Goku and Gohan didn’t even stay the full year so we can’t attribute it to base strength increase cause that’s not nearly enough time. There had to have been a strength and speed boost.
Don’t forget: Ssj+grate ape Ssj4 Fpssj3 Legendary ssj1g1-ssj4 Ssj+god (potentially 1-3) Ssj+god evolved Ssj+god but your a kai 1-3 Ssj+ultimate Ssj+ikari Ssj+rage…? Ssj+evil ki Ssj+god+evil ki Super broly ssj Kale ssj Kale controlled ssj Kefla ssj Ssj4fp Ssj4fplb Any fusion of ssj and other forms Whatever cell is on Whatever characters from DBH is on And let’s not forget, back tingles.
Fun fact ssj grade 5 I no longer just ssj2 nowadays even at ssj2 you can reach grade5 which is the case for future trunks in dbs manga alongside powerhouse method so basically grade5 is already a thing even vegeta can use it and it was stated to be stronger than ssj3 goku as for ssj4 it was a subform not part of the main branch of ssj forms
the forms they used against cell: vegeta grade 2 trunks grade 3 Goku grade 4 Gohan grade 5 does that means that vegeta younger than trunks younger than Goku younger than Gohan 🤔🤔
I feel like Super Sayian 4 and the God forms are more of a separate line of Super Sayian transformation’s. Basically Super Sayian 4 is just Super Sayian with Great ape and Super Sayian Blue is just Super Sayian god with Super Sayian, They aren’t direct evolutions of Super Sayian just other forms of ki added to Super Sayian (Primal Power and God ki.)
Super Saiyan 4: Where am I? 😢
he aint canon fr
Funny, that you say that hey you have SSJ4 dragon fist as your picture
@@SaiyanMotion🤣
@Zaque X same thing with a mastered ssj2 and a mastered ssj3
@@tofdamion that’s cuz I like the form. Doesn’t change the fact that it’s not canon
I really like this. After all this time I had never called Goku’s evolution “Super Saiyan Grade 4”, but knowing now that the transformations were more than just regular power ups in Super Saiyan, imma start addressing them by that now 😂
You seriously did not know this well then I doubt you read the daizenchu because if you did you would know what those forms are
@@notamethadict
Bro I know you're the epic nerd with no capitals but calm my boy.
@@Jellyman4 why are you making a big deal over this and the only reason why I said that is because all fans should read those guidebooks because they help with a lot of information especially fans who have not seen the series in a long time
@@notamethadict
I wasn't turning it into a big deal. You could've worded it better, but I feel after reading your reply to me you had good intentions. My bad bro.
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@@Jellyman4 it's all good
"So we can already achieve SSJ2, right?"
"Right."
"So wouldn't it be better if just keep using SSJ2 instead of SSJ1 more often?"
"Huh, I never thought of that before."
a lot of people seem to forget super saiyan 3 wasn’t even perfected, imagine the power it could hold if it was
i know it’s head canon-esk, but imagine a super saiyan 3 combined with the great ape power
That's not really possible tbh, even super sayian 2 isn't exactly mastered yet despite it being easy to use now.
if you master the first forms it will be easier to master and unlock the higher forms
SSJ: Normal SSJ.
Grade 2 SSJ: Big Muscles and Big Hair.
Grade 3 SSJ: Bigger Muscles and Bigger Hair.
Grade 4 SSJ: Normal SSJ.
SSJ2: Lightning comes out for some reason and Big Hair.
SSJ3: Loss eyebrows for some reason and Biggest Hair.
SSJ4: He grows fur all over his body for some reason and Bigger Hair.
SSJG: He slims down and has red hair for some reason.
SSJB: His hair is Blue instead of Orange for some reason.
SSJR: An out-of-body experience.
SSJBE: Darker blue hair for some reason and Big Muscles.
Full-Power SSJ: Biggest Muscles and Green hair for some reason.
Beast form: red lightning, red eyes, has ssj2 hair and its white in colour for some marketing reason.
you really love the phrase “for some reason” huh?
For some reason 😭😭😭
“For some reason”
Grade 4 SSJ: Normal SSJ but better
Super Saiyan Grade 4 is just regular regular Super Saiyan Grade 1 but with efficient energy control and usage. Same multiplier. Goku and Gohan just improved their base power levels a whole lot.
In one of the Spanish magazines for dbz, or it was the back of a manga, it was revealed that grade 3 is a ×10 to SSJ, which means grade 3 is a ×500 multiplier
W video, also W Dokkan music
Final fact ssj4 has the same grades as ssj ☝🏾☝🏾☝🏾☝🏾
what
Amazing! Keep it up! Love the videos, very informative!
R.I.P Akira Toriyama, you will be missed.
Can you do everlushin of false super saiyan
That's insane 🤩😱😳
Indeed it is
DBZ fans: at least super saiyan grade 2 increased speed and strength at the same time.
Super mega mode, bro I’m gonna be less super sad
A question which I always had is whether ssj God is a grade of ssj in the same way that ssj2 and 3 are or is it just apart of a different form line entirely?
Imo different kind of transformation
There is ssj line, god forms line, and UI line
@@IdontsupportLGBTQ-gl7cs also if you wanna go into non-canon line, then there’s the Oozaru line which goes: Oozaru => Golden Oozaru => ssj4
@@phoebusapollo8365 ye I honestly don't really care for db anymore tho since I moved onto Naruto
@@IdontsupportLGBTQ-gl7csnah db > Naruto
What about trunks super saiyan rage from when he beat zamasu that was pretty cool
Crazy how vegito in just normal ssj still the strongest character is dbz
Really cool explaination
You missed super saiyan kioken in other world tournament or sprit bomb super saiyan in android 13 movie
Ssgr4(masterd super sayian) is the same as ss1 just that it doesnt drain stamina.
No, Goku overcame a massive power difference by mastering Super Saiyan. There’s definitely a power and speed increase for mastered super saiyan.
@phoebusapollo8365 Nope, he himself is stronger. The multiplication is the same.
@@Mighter343no you moron goku literally stated how much more powerful he is
Don’t embarrass yourself
@@phoebusapollo8365you are correct
@@Mighter343u certain? Because when goku and goham come out of ofnthe time chamber, goku told vegeta he was stronger than him, and this is post super vegeta/grade 3 trunks.
Anime, cell saga, dub, from memory
What if there was a grade 5 level in Super Saiyan with turn Ssj2 with sparks not electricity 🤔 and the hair slightly looking like 2 but mostly 1.
Early gang
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Super saiyan 2 is the perfect evolution of super saiyan
Super saiyan grade two hair look long so no wonder why Gokus super saiyan 3 looks like that
do ssg and ssjb and ssjbkk
Super Saiyan 4 and super Saiyan blue is also a super Saiyan form
If you think about it ssj 3 is grade VI and ssj 4 possibly grade VII
I perceive ssj 3 as ssj gd3 but focusing the energy on the hair, instead of the muscles
Beast gohan. OST
Hmm I just called grade four mastered super saiyan
Question where berserk super sayain, super sayain blue and blue kaokien
Mainline goku died from heart virus.so i wonder what he looks like in afterlife......
Think about this....
The real Goku watching
Alternative Gokus fight
In Goku Black and goku saved FROM virus.
Probably from king kais planet should of been revived to make ss4 cannon
Maintain the form for weeks never powering down, and your body would just acclimate to that like it was normal form, thus again being able to push your body higher for another form, wish they would do that again like goku did in the cell saga. Man would prolly easily have ssb3 and master that shit with kaioken, would probably put him so far beyond his current u.i, wouldnt even be funny.
That…makes no sense.
Goku with ssb Kaioken x20 and Hit were literal fodder to a heavily suppressed Jiren. To the point where Jiren *glaring at them* was a legitimate attack that they had no real defense against because it was simply too powerful.
Then Goku unlocked UI Omen (shaking *infinity* in the process), and even then was barely in the same ballpark of heavily suppressed Jiren.
Then Goku unlocks an even stronger version of the omen form, matching the power of ssj2 Kefla, who easily knocked out ssb kaioken x20 Goku with a single hit.
Then Goku unlocks another even stronger version of omen, matching a suppressed Jiren yet again, but Jiren ended up playing with him having already read all his movements.
And then Goku unlocks Mastered UI, which is so strong and fast that Jiren is like a statue moving in slow motion for him to punch at his leisure, and the full power of his suppressed ki can be shattered like glass.
And then Jiren unleashes his power, and they clash evenly, but then Jiren gains the advantage of power and overpowers him, then Goku gains a power boost that gives him the advantage again, then Goku gains his final power boost, becoming far more powerful than Jiren, then Jiren briefly powers up to match Goku, then Goku keeps climbing higher and completely decimates him.
Goku’s UI climbs multiple rankings of power in that tournament alone, keep in mind that the first appearance of the form was already astronomically stronger than Goku’s best Kaioken x20 performance (oh and yet again, shook infinity).
Goku having ssb3 kaioken x20 would only make him 8 times stronger than his best ssb kaioken x20. UI is so far beyond that it’s not even a competition.
@@phoebusapollo8365 I take it your the type that hasn't seen the cell saga, and understand what I just said at the same time aren't you?
I wish they didn’t get rid of the grades
Isn’t ssj3 just a powered up version of ssj2?
Super sayian 4 be like 👁👄👁 and for the real dragonball og’s super sayian 5 also be like 👁👄👁
To 10 baby
There is a theory that say ssj 2 is just ssj 1 on ssj fp and ssj 3 is ssj grade 3 modified
What do you guys think about it?
Vegeta has both grade 2 and 3. Same as trunks but vegeta doesn't use it because he knows it's disadvantages. Grade 2 isn't actually useless at all, it beated the hell outta SP Cell, if it were grade 3 then cell could've ran away. Goku has all of these by the end of cell saga. Vegeta by super probably has grade 4.
ssj 1 from goku when he vs frieza
after that, vegeta trying to surpass it, and become ssj 2 half-cooked😂 (power but slow, thts why goku never use that form,only vegeta n trunk does😂)
the 1st person to achieve true ssj2 is Gohan when he go againt Cell
after that goku 1st person to gain (ssj3,god,blue,Mui)
but for Ssj blue2, only vegeta achieve that(same level as goku blue kaioken)
and God Destruction mode, also vegeta
#HailPrinceofSaiyanVegeta ❤
I view ssj 2nd and 3rd grades as a saiyan not actually increasing their ki generation like ssj2 and ssj3 but rather grades 2 and 3 are a saiyan increasing their bodies ki capacity ( both of these methods should be used in conjunction with each other basically ssj2 grade 2 is optimal and ssj3 grade 3 is optimal ( for a tailless saiyan) together, just my theory let me know what you think so please reply thanks
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Khalil super saiyan
I miss the days when Dragonball had forms that mattered and weren't total ass pulls and lame ass color changes to already existing designs. SSJ Blue, Black Frieza, Beast Gohan. The only cool looking forms that came from Super are Ultra Instinct and Ultra Ego.
How about Orange piccolo?
Grade 6= super saiyan
Super saiyan grade 4 does not increase strength, only no loss in stamina
Goku and Gohan singlehandedly went from the weakest Saiyans to surpassing Piccolo, A17, Imperfect Cell, Semi-Perfect Cell, SsjG2 Vegeta, Suppressed Perfect Cell, while only showcasing 50% of their power. in that order, keep in mind that some of those people are multiple times stronger than the person before them.
And Goku and Gohan didn’t even stay the full year so we can’t attribute it to base strength increase cause that’s not nearly enough time.
There had to have been a strength and speed boost.
Yuh
Don’t forget:
Ssj+grate ape
Ssj4
Fpssj3
Legendary ssj1g1-ssj4
Ssj+god (potentially 1-3)
Ssj+god evolved
Ssj+god but your a kai 1-3
Ssj+ultimate
Ssj+ikari
Ssj+rage…?
Ssj+evil ki
Ssj+god+evil ki
Super broly ssj
Kale ssj
Kale controlled ssj
Kefla ssj
Ssj4fp
Ssj4fplb
Any fusion of ssj and other forms
Whatever cell is on
Whatever characters from DBH is on
And let’s not forget, back tingles.
Fun fact ssj grade 5 I no longer just ssj2 nowadays even at ssj2 you can reach grade5 which is the case for future trunks in dbs manga alongside powerhouse method so basically grade5 is already a thing even vegeta can use it and it was stated to be stronger than ssj3 goku as for ssj4 it was a subform not part of the main branch of ssj forms
Nope
@@supesisfodder7427 how about you give a detailed explanation of what makes you think it isnt
@@kenjikobayashi2360no
What about super saiyan 4 though??
Not canon to the story. still the best form tho lol
Whats grade multiplier
the forms they used against cell:
vegeta grade 2
trunks grade 3
Goku grade 4
Gohan grade 5
does that means that vegeta younger than trunks younger than Goku younger than Gohan 🤔🤔
So super sayain grade 6 is ssj3
So would super saiyan 3 be called grade 6
Early gang where u at
Im right here
I mean n super Saiyan blue is just super Saiyan with super Saiyan God
Super saiyan 3 drains energy not stamina that's super saiyan blue
Super Saiyan 3 you mean super Saiyan grade 6
Oh cool they are all grades
They stopped doin the graded after ssj2 thi
@@SaiyanMotion Super Saiyan grade 4 and Super Saiyan grade 5 are fan terms the other two come from the guidebooks
Grade 4 doesn't exist. Its just normal ssj
No grade 4 is the mastered version of normal ssj it's just normal ssj without the energy drain/it's Ssj basically turned into their base form
@@KenpachiZaraki001nope ssj grade 4 is a higher level and more powerful
@@KenpachiZaraki001no
Cap cut
Filmora*
@@SaiyanMotion use cap cut its just like filmora but 1080p for free and also 2k
Do we count ssj4 and God evolution
I feel like Super Sayian 4 and the God forms are more of a separate line of Super Sayian transformation’s. Basically Super Sayian 4 is just Super Sayian with Great ape and Super Sayian Blue is just Super Sayian god with Super Sayian, They aren’t direct evolutions of Super Sayian just other forms of ki added to Super Sayian (Primal Power and God ki.)
Not imo
I'm here before this blows up pls pin me
Thanks for watching lol
Super Saiyan "2" is Super Saiyan then Super Saiyan God then Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan