UNACCEPTABLE 😡 Jurgen Klopp's actions towards fourth official sparks heated debate | ESPN FC
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- Опубліковано 30 кві 2023
- Professional football referee Mark Clattenburg joins the ESPN FC crew to react to Liverpool's 4-3 win over Tottenham in their Premier League matchup and discuss Jurgen Klopp's conduct with the fourth official.
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Stevie: "what's the very first thing I said to you?!"
Dan: "I hate 4th officials"
😂😂😂😂
Also “I’m glad you changed your mind from yesterday…” 😂 Dan is a professional wind up! Love it!
That was savage😂😂😂😂😂
All English ref are garbage and incompetent in the first place 😂😂😂
Dan is brilliant and the best part of the show 😊
That was great!
Nicol gonna slap up dan one of these days😂😂😂
@0:13 he basically called him a smarty pants😂😂😂
This comment sounds more trini than shaka 😂
Keeps me tuning it
Tbf he has it coming, espn need to stop putting him at the end of these videos man
🍿 👀
“Yea Stevie think of the children”… Dan is worst most precious instigator ever 😂😂😂
Everyone talking about Klopp actions and what about his hamstring 😂😂😂
He kinda punished himself 😂
God punished him
Faking it to avoid a booking.
Served him right
Karma in seconds 😂
I agree with Craig. Why even harass the 4th official? Aside from holding up signs and allowing subs on and off, he's responsible for nothing else that happens on the pitch or the decisions that are made by the ref and the linesmen. This isn't just Klopp, this is all managers.
Relax it was the hype of the moment. It wasn’t meant to harass or intimidate
@@TrapKingz. lol cause you're in Klopp's head apparently
@@chrissichris19 god your so sensitive arent you. Go watch golf
@@TrapKingz. This isn't a one off moment, this kind of harassment happens all the time because of decisions that aren't his responsibility whatsoever!
You mean you agree with Shaka, right?
Dan mastered how to troll and annoy Stevie 😂😂😂
Grab my popcorn every time
😂😂😂😂
Dan would make a good fourth official actually 😂
klopp would get the sack if dan was the 4th offical... dan would end up wearing the number board notification.... anddy robbo would have legitimate reason to defend against dans stupid humour
Ok, Dan would be the only 4th official who would deserve this kind of abuse! 😂
he's so annoying
I enjoy dans chaotic humor
Punch him up 😂
Omg Dan trolling Stevie is so hilarious sometimes...he just keeps poking and prodding and getting him worked up. I love @4:21 he slips in "I'm glad you changed your mind from yesterday" as the last word knowing it will get under his skin lol
And Stevie falls for it and bites every time! 😂
@@GIBBO4182 LOL right like at 2:50 Dan, with the little grin goes "Well he shouldn't do it in the first place," - Steve could just go like: "Well he did why are you asking me about it" and end it but he keeps on ramping up
5:52 after Stevie has a rant, look at Dan’s face when the camera pans out 😁
@@GIBBO4182 omg I missed that, and he is like glancing at a producer or camera person or someone 😂
@@andymurray8620 I spotted the little glances! I bet it was a producer telling him to stop, before poor Stevie had a heart attack!
4:46, shaka is trying not to confront stevie and Dan jumps in and says “Steven is” and as soon as he gets a reaction out of stevie, he has the biggest smile on his face😂😂😂 winding him up
That’s how I got two of my bullies at high school to fight 😂
He’s not defending it he’s offering an explanation.
Stevie is so trying to explain his self 🤣😅
Release the audio. If what he said was fine then there shouldn't be a problem letting us hear it.
Why doesn't Klopp say what he heard?
@@esorkinc4011 Maybe he doesn't want to stir up a hornets nest even more than had already been the case, or maybe he just doesn't trust the PL/FA/PGMOL.
Can't believe how much I agree with Stevie. He's not saying what everyone is hearing. He agrees with Clattenburg on a 1-match touchline ban for Klopp, so he's clearly not excusing his actions. He's telling you why Klopp might do something like that.
He's also right about turning over the communications. The PGMOL are not obliged to turn it over, but it would put Klopp in a tough spot if he's shown to be lying about what was said to him by Tierney.
Klopp is not lying
@@tawanu I don't think he is. If he was, I think PGMOL would put out the communications.
Everyone is forgetting Tierney was the match official last season when he did not send Kane off for his horrendous challenge on Robertson. Crazy how it's never the Ref's fault
Pgmol investigating themselves and found themselves innocent. Release the audio then there is clarity but that will never happen.
Exactly. We're just meant to take the PGMOL's word for it? Lmao what a joke.
@@MarkHogan994 hilarious logic
Just like they investigated their linesman and found he apparently didn't elbow Robertson...
🤣🤣🤣🤣I mean, and we have to take their word for it? Ridiculous
Stevie is so funny to watch when rattled 😅
Just released the audio to the public then if there is nothing wrong with what Paul said.
Klopps the accuser, if he's upset he should elaborate on what was said.
@@Dermot88886g Exactly, Klopp now knows the audio was recorded. He's not saying what it is, because Tierney didn't say anything untoward to him. If he says anything, he's lying. So of course he's not gonna elaborate
Stevie is right that the audio should be released.
💯💯💯
What’s crazy is that we all are programmed to accept referees’ incompetence w/o any reactions. Brighton alone received 3 separate apologies from PGMOL this season. They should be up there in points in top 4, but due to referees’ mistakes they don’t have those points. Probably will miss out of millions n not experienced champs league anytime soon. Who will pay for that? So what managers get angry, apparently referees can elbow a player’s face if they are.
None of that has anything to do with the 4th official! He's responsible for substitutions for fucks sake!
That's the point though, their manager. Wasn't screaming g at the official like a phycotic lunatic
Lol funny enough klopp does this on a regular basis I've noticed several scenarios with this over the years
i agree with Nicol, these other pundits clearly ignore what he said. he wasn't defending Klopp, he is just explaining why he lost his cool.
For some reason, people in these circumstances can’t see the obvious difference. They’re too consumed with trying to grandstand
Pep Guardiola danced and screamed in Tsimikas' face when Liverpool visited the Etihad and nothing happened there...
The truth gets in the way
Klopp is the MAN he doesn't give a flying F...
It’s not acceptable BUT…”I’m not making an excuse” 😂
you need listening skills, he's explaining motive, not right vs wrong
@@soyentak5076 he is clearly trying to make an excuse in order to justify Klopp’s behaviour! Gtfoh…typical Liverpool. No shame, never to blame
Agree 100%. Any other manager for any other club Stevie wouldn’t die on this hill.
It's not an excuse for what Klopp did, it's a probable reason for why he felt negatively toward the 4th official.
@@TerribleEnglish tomato 🇺🇸 - tomato 🇬🇧
Refs also have to much power. Can make mistakes and have zero consequences. All audio from every game should be available unedited within 24 hours.
Wow, this has been all blown out of proportion . How many times have other managers harassed 4th official, and nothing is said, but because it's klopp, everyone has an opinion. Also, more managers should speak up. Credit to klopp for speaking out .
Because he's been the only one consistently doing it this season
Far as i'm concerned what klopp did is a nothing burger,
It wasnt so long ago the linesman elbowed robertson.
And ?? Oh that the excuse 😂
Maybe the 4th official should have knocked him out then
Pretty sure Robertson charged that linesman too... i say anyone charging someone else deserves to get sent to the shadow realm
@@kumbirayimamombe3970 No doubt the fa would have investigated themselves and found that they did nothing wrong.
Stevie did stick up for klopp! He even asked Craig if he was defending the fourth official!
I agree with stevie on the issue of the audio being released. How do you investigate yourself for an alleged wrong doing and claim you're innocent and expect me to believe it? That doesn't make sense to me
If Tierney said nothing wrong let then release the conversation with him and Klopp. That way we'll know the truth. Case Closed
“We have invested ourselves and found ourselves innocent.” -That was perfect… 🤦🏻🤡
Once again, my son’s words…”every time Steve is on the show, we have a fight…”
Saka wants to choke Nicol for simply giving an explanation of what he thinks happened 😂
Nicole is justifying bad behavior. Not cool
@@leeroyuckface6893 he didn’t justify the behavior and he said that multiple times.
“I’m pleased that the PGMOL have cleared this up” ah yes upon investigating ourselves we find ourselves not guilty
They need to release the audio before anyone believes they aren't guilty of inappropriate comments
@@jefepeeps4308 that’s exactly the case and in this case it’s guilty until proven innocent purely because if he is innocent and said nothing then they would release the audio
I’m just loving Ian Darke’s facial expressions.
Klopp gets away with so much. Jose would have been banned multiple times if he did the same
He’s been banned and fined before and excepted it. What a clueless comment.
@@JollyRedGiant how is it clueless. He has got away with far more than Jose would have. Clueless statement was yours and you know it 😂😂😂
@@cully84 How is what I said clueless? He has received both fines and banned before and took responsibility for it? You’re just a sad manure fan 😂😂
@@JollyRedGiant you need to work on your reading comprehension. I didn't say that he's never been banned but that he gets away with quite a lot. Cully84 basically said the same thing and you didn't actually understand it.
@@bluemoon1716 Oh I’m sorry did you list any examples to support the nonsense you said. Reading compression what a laugh 😂 you must be a jealous manure fan as well.
Let them release the audio into public domain, this is just another issue of he said she said.
Well said stevie, I feel your frustration due to numpties around you
If Steve is defending Klopp in someway, then what is the former referee saying. He is also here defending the PGMO.
And the other pundits?
@@MegaBobbyblaze please dont use logic.
An assistant referee elbows a player in the face out of frustration: no big deal.
A manager says words out of frustration: BAN HIM!
@@mpilwenhlecaluza7163 - No, he wasn’t. He was suspended for a couple days while they “investigated” the incident, and wasn’t given a ban. As ESPN themselves reported:
“Constantine Hatzidakis will face no disciplinary action by the English Football Association and is free to return to officiating after apologising to Liverpool's Andy Robertson…”
So, do the same thing here. Have Klopp apologise to Tierney, and move along. What’s good for the goose…
"Harrassment" did anyone watch what happened? "The poor fourth official", like he cant take someone gloating in his face.
It’s always Klopp’s behavior, but never Klopp’s Hamstring. 😢
Clattenberg carefully misquoted Thomas Frank. He said because Newcastle get away with berating the 4th official, Brentford decided to do it vs Newcastle. Like Wolves and sxxthousing. Frank didn't say it's right.
Let the audio be air so everyone can hear
Shaka never has a clue 😂
Those guys on the show don't rate him because he never won anything.
@@David_Smith 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Clearly you don’t 😂
Everyone is trying to make Klopp a scapegoat here
He decided before the show to defend refs 😂
Audio has to come out
Being an angry old Scotsman I love seeing Stevie getting angry :) And being a lifelong supporter of Liverpool I couldnt understand How Salah was penalised after having his shirt nealy pulled off him, but what Klopp did was wrong.
If Salah was english, he would get that call everytime. But he's not, and he is one of the most fouled players in the EPL but rarely ever gets the calls
@@jefepeeps4308 What information or data are you using to make the statement he is one of the most fouled if he doesn't get the calls? If he doesn't get the calls then statistically he isn't fouled...
@@jefepeeps4308 If Salah was English you would be calling him overrated (which he is).
@@mojebi3804 and which team do you support?
@@jefepeeps4308 Newcastle, since you asked nicely, although I don't see the relevance
DAN set up all this shii.. and he loving it.🤣🤣
They just need to release the audio
Crazy to me that a ref can violently elbow a player in the face and deal with less repercussion than Klopp’s actions which are at best just immature.
"Violently" 😂😂😂😂😂
Yep so much "violence".....
what on earth are you on about? even if i grant you that individual example, where is the PROOF that refs are allowed to violently engage players more often than it is the other way around? plus you have to consider that the ref always has the numbers against him. if a ref makes a controversial desicion, four parties are potentially against them. The media, the crowd, the players on the pitch along with the managerial crew. if a referee has to defend themselves, the only thing they have going for them is the support of themselves and an intellectual application of rule of law. no one is protecting referees when 5 players approach them to confront them about a call.
That ref had to bow out of matches for a week - so Klopp should be no where near a pitch for AT LEAST one match. But you know Liverpool settings, we shall see what the PL do to their bread and butter.
Stevie, I agree 100% with you, I dont know if they are just messing around with you o they just dont want to see
Klopp admitted it was inappropriate.
And Tierney admitted the fourth official was out of line by saying he gave him a yellow instead of a red because of the fourth officials actions so why aren't we talking about he he did? Because wah wah officials are little sweethearts that have to be protected like an endangered species when they're some of the biggest power tripping cunts on the planet.
Release the audio
How about not asking the ex-Liverpool to give his opinion on LFC games. Same with the other ex-players commenting on their former teams. It’s embarrassing to watch the clear homerism from these lot.
Ian Darke's facial expression says it all 😂
no coaches have ever got mad at officials.
Dan needs to chill 😂
'Smarty pants' 😂😂😂
9:13 let the public listen to the recording
Release the audio then...
Kloop smart af got everyone talking about him instead of Liverpool trash defence 👌🏿👏🏿
Tbh, their defense has been trash all year so it's not that big of a surprise they lost the 3-0 lead
@@troym93 that’s the point Troy 🤦🏿♂️ yet we’re talking about the man pulling a hammy and his touch line actions taking the pressure off his team. Great coaching in my eyes tbf
When line man elbows a player, it is fine but when a coach runs towards a fourth official than it is an offense 🤣🤣🤣🤣
How do you know there's nothing untowards? Release the audio then if there's nothing..
Go on.
10:59 Ian dozed off for a moment there
Clearly Steve is a good pundit or football analysis. He always brings out a good side of arguments. His knowledge of football in this ESPN studio is second to non. He's a human and clearly he got this wrong.
He's driven by emotions here. But for someone to throw words , saying he's a clown is not acceptable. I love all the analysis
in Australia the AFL referees are mic'd up so the tv viewer /broadcasters can hear conversations between players and referees on why certain decisions for fouls/free kicks have been made should be the same in football
If Stevie is asked to speculate on “why” Klopp took that action, any answer would have been shown to be bias.
The thing with all the recorded stuff being reviewed by PGMOL is, I don’t trust PGMOL at all.
It is clear that Klopp has history with Tierney. This is the only ref he has a problem with.
clearly tierney has a problem with klopp and lfc.... everybody moaning about jotas kick to skipps head and being on scoring the winner.... but skipp shoulda got sent off for trying to break diaz ankles.... and richarlison didnt even get a card for taking his shirt off
@@antwango so what you’re saying is that he had bad calls towards both teams?
@@rohegarcia2802 Maybe the reason Jota wasn't sent off was because Tierney knew he'd made a big mistake by not sending Dier off earlier in the game, and as such he wanted to 'even things up', especially given his previous history with Liverpool/Klopp.
Tierney appears very dismissive of Klopp, so I can understand why he believes there's a problem there. The reality though is that Tierney is probably the worst ref in the league for all teams, yet he's been given over 20% of Liverpool's games this season. Madness.
@@jaysmith2858 if he "hated" Liverpool he wouldn't care to make it even!!
How do you trust the PGMOL? They saw a roided up Ref elbow Andy Robertson in the face and said he did nothing wrong too. I would take their input with a grain of salt TBH.
8:23 i don’t believe them, before they make this record available to listen for everyone
Monday: Rattle up Stevie
Tuesday: Rattle up Craig
Wed: Rattle up Shaka
Thur: Rattle up Don
Fri: Rattle up Stevie again
Dan Thomas has the best job on earth.
i’m sorry, but i don’t get why stevie is saying pgmol HAVE to produce the audio as though they are trying to hide tierney. that’s bs
0:15 "you know what that's like"😂
What does him being a role model have to do with anything? You would think my guy hit the fourth official over the head with hammer. Fine him, send him to the stands for a game, end of story. Enough with the drawn out rubbish for no reason. I wish these lot had the same energy for the FA and referees for some of the shockingly inconsistent and disgraceful officiating this season. YNWA.
You will never see Ancelloti behave like that.
In general, footballers and managers spend too much time whining about calls and yelling at officials. Whether the official's decisions are wrong or right, the side that the call went against will endlessly cluck like an old wet hen.
If Bruno did that, pitch forks would be out 😂
The history between Klopp and Tierney
In 2020 Tierney reportedly told Klopp to "get over it" after the referee admitted he had missed a foul on Georginio Wijnaldum in a game against Aston Villa.
Tierney was also in charge of a Liverpool game at Tottenham in December 2021 when Spurs striker Harry Kane escaped a red card before Liverpool left-back Andrew Robertson was dismissed.
The match ended in a 2-2 draw which resulted in the Reds losing ground to Manchester City in their Premier League title fight.
Tierney was also the referee when Everton were denied a late penalty in a 1-0 defeat by Manchester City in February 2022.
City midfielder Rodri appeared to control the ball with his arm and, while Tierney and video assistant referee Chris Kavanagh did not deem it worthy of a spot-kick, former PGMOL head Mike Riley later apologised to the Toffees for the decision.
Liverpool went on to miss out on the Premier League title by one point to City that season.
In January this year after a loss to Brentford, Klopp said he had approached the officials - including Tierney - to discuss decisions made during the game.
"That's exactly the same as I would talk to my microwave, you get no response, really, it's always the same," he told beIN Sports.
Earlier this month, Tierney booked Liverpool's Robertson after an incident involving assistant referee Constantine Hatzidakis.
Shaka trying to be politically correct is stupid and ignorance 😂
On all these shows they're bootlickers for referees. Apparently they should be shown respect, but they are never accountable for any of their actions. They need to publicly explain their decisions. Their performance reviews need to be publicly available to see if PGMOL are fit for purpose. They need to be mic'd up so we can hear their conversations and explanations during the game.
I am getting pop corn for this xD
The PGMOL have cleared nothing. We want to hear the audio
You can do more to avoid these Situations. Train the referees!!!!
The camera man caught Ian sleeping😂
He shd get a 3 match ban. Like a red card because 1 match ban is not punitive enough. He won’t feel it much. Ban him 3 games in this crucial period and he will never misbehave again. This is his second offense already this season.
If Jose or Tuchel did it Stevie would be calling them all sorts of names.
If that was arteta, Stevie would have torn him a new hole...i remember when he was moaning about arteta not staying in the manager"s touch line box. the biase because it's Liverpool and klopp is ridiculous
Release the audio then
If their is nothing to worry about
Klopp can lose his cool but if it was Ronaldo. “He knows people are looking”
I wonder if Tierney's hatred of Liverpool had anything to do with NOT sending Jota off for kicking the Tottenham player's head off.
Or not sending Skipp off for a potential season ender
why even have a 4th official
Would have been a 10 game ban if it was Jose.
4th officials are like doctors receptionist
If it would have been a united manager or arsenal manager nicol would be bursting out to send them both out
Love the flashbacks honestly
Stevie was talking about grass roots the other day so why not on this occasion
"IM TELLING YOU HOW HE LOST HIS COOL" lol
They are making it sound like fourth official is the first official
After Shaka once put Donnarumma (very overrated) at the top of his goalkeeper power rankings, I take his opinions with a grain of 🧂
Best player in the entire European Championships that he won with Italy btw
yeah.. its fine if Klpop gets frustrated it on the touchline, but its bad if Bruno does it on the pitch "its not the heat of the moment then".. lol :D