Thanks! We appreciate that! We typically try to shoot most of our videos with dyno stuff with animated graphs. Sometimes, the owners don't want that information published, and a lot of the time we can't get stock baselines if the car isn't in dyno worthy condition before we start. But we really appreciate your comment!
I had a WS6 with big heads, cam, full exhaust ( no cats, long tubes, true duals, bullet mufflers), injectors, etc. etc. basically the entire top end and exhaust and it made 461 at the wheels with stock, weak ass rear. After putting in a 9" rear, the rwhp dropped to either 440 or 445 so I don't know why you don't think 460+ to the wheels isn't doable with just full top-end (while fairly streetable and reliable) plus exhaust unless you're talkin bout a mustang dyno then I definitely agree with u.
I have the same cam in my 04 C 5 coup long tube headers 3 inch stainless ex no cats with an RPM LEVEL 5 TRANSMISSION 2600/ 2800 STALL REAR 373 K&N COLD AIR INTAKE. LOVE IT
Nicee. I was debating on whether or not trade it in for newer mustang but after all I've been through with my Vette I just don't think I could let her go so I'm just gonna upgrade some parts and enjoy the crap out of it lol
It's a relatively new offering, I believe. We haven't had anyone go for one yet, most of our customers typically don't want to sacrifice any low end losses for peak NA power- or alternatively are getting setup with the intention of throwing boost at it later. So yah, we haven't had anyone run one yet. If we do, you better believe we'll throw it on here!
I've noticed that there's new BTR Stage 4 specs and I haven't heard about anyone noticing it yet but I'm interested in some same day, same car testing. Mine is part # 33542113 235/242° .620/.593" 111° LSA The new Stage 4 on BTRs website is: Part # 33348123R0 233/248° .630/.615" 111.5+2.5 LSA
How’s the drive ability? I know they say the stage 4 has low power at low rpm. Is it noticeable? I do autocross and was wondering if I should do the stage 3 or 4.
LSX- Hicks i have stage 3 in mine . Only issues I have is on takeoff have to keep the rpms a little higher than usual. It will surge if try and let it idle across parking lot
Amazing numbers for a cam and stock exhaust manifolds! What kind of dyno? I also have a red C5z on black z06 wheels and I’m also in the market for a cam lol. How is the idle vacuum with a stock tune? Does it throw a check engine light? I’m in California so I need it to run decent on a factor ECU flash when it’s time for smog
This combo did pretty well! This was taken on our old Mustang Dyno. Can't speak for how it runs on a stock tune, because it will not / or not want to run on a stock tune with this cam, you will absolutely need it tuned. If you have it professionally tuned it should not throw a check engine light, but can't speak too thoroughly as far as passing smog- in Michigan, we don't have any emissions or safety checks. I heard you guys in California are going to be getting it rough with the "no ecu tuning / adjustments", you're not going to be able to run a cam in any healthy/running manner without it being tuned.
@@StrictlyPerformanceMotorsports agreed. Plan was to get a cam just small enough to run on a factory flash to limp around when it’s smog check. I would not do any WOT pulls or anything like that during this time. Planning for two different ECU’s. Stock and flashed depending on what is needed at the time.
My c5Z makes 450 on the Mustang dyno with BTR stage 1, heads headers and intake. Could have gone with stage 2 or 3 but I like driveability. Nobody ever hated a mild cam but you can come to hate a cam that's too wild.
All true. We've been pleasantly surprised with the results on the couple stage 1 cams we've done. Stage 2 is by far the most popular choice our customers go with. Stage 4 is definitely a bit rowdy, so you're either the type of person that's always loving it or eventually getting tired of it. Thanks for watching!
@@YoRon427 A lot of variables as far as potential gains based on supporting mods that sync well with each specific cam. We have a few videos on C5 cam swaps, Supercharger Cam, Stage 2, Stage 3, and Stage 4. Each car had slightly different supporting mods- but here is how they did: Stage 4 NA Cam (Mustang Dyno) : 427 whp / 391 ft.lbs Stage 3 NA Cam (Mustang Dyno): 416 whp / 372 ft.lbs Stage 2 NA Cam (Mustang Dyno) : 406 whp / 377 ft.lbs Stage 1 NA Cam (C6 on Dynojet) : 423 whp / 398 ft.lbs SC Cam on an NA C5 (Dynojet) : 364 whp / 357 ft.lbs
Yah, pretty sure it was Cam, Longtube Headers, Exhaust, CAI, and a tune. Feel free to call the shop for more info on something like this. (269)350-9055 or shoot us an email Sales@StrictlyPerformance.Parts
It had an intake, exhaust and was already tuned from someone else before it got dropped off for the cam swap with us, so we obviously re-tuned it after we installed the cam. I believe this car only came in for our LS "Cam Swap Special" pack, which includes cam swap parts, install labor and custom tuning for each car specifically. Check out our "Cam Swap Special" here: www.strictlyperformance.parts/upgrades-installs *Please note we are, currently, only taking on 2009+ GM V8 platforms with the exception of 2000+ C5 and C6 Corvettes on a case by case basis. Any questions or inquiries please send the shop an email directly! Sales@StrictlyPerformance.Parts
Definitely requires tuning all the way around! As far as 1/4mile times, haven't really had any C5 guys run at the strip (or at least report back) for comparisons- most of these C5s we do are street cars with some of the guys doing autocross stuff, with fewer still actual road course/track days. Thanks for watching!
That last pull made my eyes roll back!!!! Also what brand is the rear spoiler? Or wing ? Also can you daily drive that car without getting pulled over every 3 blocks ? I’m thinking about caming it
Thing rips for sure! I'm not 100% sure what brand this wing is, but we've seen it on a couple of these C5s through the shop. None of our local guys have had any issues daily driving these cam setups as far being harassed/pulled over- but we are in Michigan, so, in my experience, you typically have to "have it coming" if you're getting nicked. If it's an auto car, you may want to upgrade the converter for a cam this aggressive, otherwise you're golden. Cam Swap is a great power upgrade for staying NA. We usually see 50-100whp increases depending on what cam you go for, and with supporting mods.
No cylinder head up grade needed at this power level. Stock heads breathe really well up to 500-600 hp watch Richard Holdener from West Tech on UA-cam or read his books. Good luck
This C5 came in with an intake and exhaust (Don't remember if it had headers) and a random tune already on it. Then we did the Stage4 BTR cam with BTR's valvetrain/cam kit and our own tune on our old Mustang Dyno.
The Dynojet Estimate is a built in calculation provided in the Mustang Dyno software, and proven to be pretty accurate on testing with cars going from our Mustang to other Dynojet dynos. As for the 421.7whp, I know our camera guy/editor had several other projects he was covering that day and was in the room with the GoPro up until the last couple pulls. Captured on the GoPro was 421.7whp/388.6 tq ft.lbs. The Final Pull, captured on the Nikon (fixed camera) and what is on the Dynograph printout was 427whp / 391tq.
Yeah I don’t think 427rwhp on a C5Z is optimistic with a Stage 4 BTR cam, my buddy who has a great tuning shop has a base C5 with the Stage 3 putting down 408rwhp. My C5 with just exhaust put down 356rwhp. So the cam difference was 52hp roughly. So the 371-427 (56hp) with a stage 4 on a Z isn’t crazy optimistic. Those BTR cams are something else.
From now on, shoot all your videos like this with the dyno graphs.
Best on youtube
Thanks! We appreciate that!
We typically try to shoot most of our videos with dyno stuff with animated graphs. Sometimes, the owners don't want that information published, and a lot of the time we can't get stock baselines if the car isn't in dyno worthy condition before we start. But we really appreciate your comment!
@@StrictlyPerformanceMotorsports ok.
Do your best
Excellent edit! Highly enjoyed what you did here.
*starts bopping to the beat drop* PERFECT!!!
What song is it?
Great video.
I like the way you shoot.
Great video showing subo graphs and all!!
What a beautiful build !
Nice gain
Your dyno is spot on , doesn’t read low. 420-440 is about what it should make. Would never make 470+ regardless of dyno type
I had a WS6 with big heads, cam, full exhaust ( no cats, long tubes, true duals, bullet mufflers), injectors, etc. etc. basically the entire top end and exhaust and it made 461 at the wheels with stock, weak ass rear. After putting in a 9" rear, the rwhp dropped to either 440 or 445 so I don't know why you don't think 460+ to the wheels isn't doable with just full top-end (while fairly streetable and reliable) plus exhaust unless you're talkin bout a mustang dyno then I definitely agree with u.
Wow sick gains for a cam
I have the same cam in my 04 C 5 coup long tube headers 3 inch stainless ex no cats with an RPM LEVEL 5 TRANSMISSION 2600/ 2800 STALL REAR 373 K&N COLD AIR INTAKE. LOVE IT
How much power you making and how's the drive with this cam? Trying to decide what to do with my 01
Victor Benitez it's puting 410 to the ground. Drives very nice.but the drone is loud.but the sound is sweet
Nicee. I was debating on whether or not trade it in for newer mustang but after all I've been through with my Vette I just don't think I could let her go so I'm just gonna upgrade some parts and enjoy the crap out of it lol
I did the same cam in my Cameron 243 heads put I went with fast9 combo I wonder what I’ll put down heads are fresh new everything on them
Definitely cam only with those numbers.
Isn’t there a stage 5 btr cam too, I can seem to find any dynos with that cam
It's a relatively new offering, I believe. We haven't had anyone go for one yet, most of our customers typically don't want to sacrifice any low end losses for peak NA power- or alternatively are getting setup with the intention of throwing boost at it later. So yah, we haven't had anyone run one yet.
If we do, you better believe we'll throw it on here!
I've noticed that there's new BTR Stage 4 specs and I haven't heard about anyone noticing it yet but I'm interested in some same day, same car testing.
Mine is part # 33542113
235/242° .620/.593" 111° LSA
The new Stage 4 on BTRs website is:
Part # 33348123R0
233/248° .630/.615" 111.5+2.5 LSA
Dude!!! I got your twin sitting in my garage. Excellent vid bud!!
Dude I’ll straight jack slap you cuz
Awesome video👍👍👍
What heads would y’all recommend? I saw TSF 215 heads with this cam make 470whp
Awesome car!!
by the way, this is a great formet. People love dyno charts.
Thanks for watching! Glad you enjoyed it!
Real nice video, so is that a ls1 engine?
The C5 Z06's use an LS6, which has many similarities to an LS1.
Here's one of the last LS1 cars we did:
ua-cam.com/video/J5DzduqyZzw/v-deo.html
Extremely happy dyno. But sounds great!
I don't see why its happy as these are average numbers for a c5z with just a tune then average numbers for a cam only car as well
With heads and fbo. Sounds about right.
Did you have to put in colder plugs?
How’s the drive ability? I know they say the stage 4 has low power at low rpm. Is it noticeable? I do autocross and was wondering if I should do the stage 3 or 4.
LSX- Hicks i have stage 3 in mine . Only issues I have is on takeoff have to keep the rpms a little higher than usual. It will surge if try and let it idle across parking lot
I would honestly go with a btr stage 1 or stage 2 at most for an autox setup.
Amazing numbers for a cam and stock exhaust manifolds! What kind of dyno? I also have a red C5z on black z06 wheels and I’m also in the market for a cam lol. How is the idle vacuum with a stock tune? Does it throw a check engine light? I’m in California so I need it to run decent on a factor ECU flash when it’s time for smog
This combo did pretty well! This was taken on our old Mustang Dyno. Can't speak for how it runs on a stock tune, because it will not / or not want to run on a stock tune with this cam, you will absolutely need it tuned. If you have it professionally tuned it should not throw a check engine light, but can't speak too thoroughly as far as passing smog- in Michigan, we don't have any emissions or safety checks.
I heard you guys in California are going to be getting it rough with the "no ecu tuning / adjustments", you're not going to be able to run a cam in any healthy/running manner without it being tuned.
@@StrictlyPerformanceMotorsports agreed. Plan was to get a cam just small enough to run on a factory flash to limp around when it’s smog check. I would not do any WOT pulls or anything like that during this time. Planning for two different ECU’s. Stock and flashed depending on what is needed at the time.
What rear spoiler is that? This thing is awesome! That paint looks perfect!
..i want to know also.
Any headwork on this?
What's the part number for this cam? looking at adding one to my cts-v.
Pretty sure it was this one:
briantooleyracing.com/btr-camshaft-ls1-ls2-n-a-stage-4-33542113-33542113.html
Hey you still got the car? I have had a c6z and c7 z now and miss my c5 most of all.
This is a customer's car from a couple years ago.
Is that the c7 carbon racing spoiler?
My c5Z makes 450 on the Mustang dyno with BTR stage 1, heads headers and intake. Could have gone with stage 2 or 3 but I like driveability. Nobody ever hated a mild cam but you can come to hate a cam that's too wild.
All true. We've been pleasantly surprised with the results on the couple stage 1 cams we've done. Stage 2 is by far the most popular choice our customers go with. Stage 4 is definitely a bit rowdy, so you're either the type of person that's always loving it or eventually getting tired of it.
Thanks for watching!
@@StrictlyPerformanceMotorsports Thanks, is it possible to know the hp difference between stage 1 and stage 2 on the same engine?
@@YoRon427 A lot of variables as far as potential gains based on supporting mods that sync well with each specific cam. We have a few videos on C5 cam swaps, Supercharger Cam, Stage 2, Stage 3, and Stage 4. Each car had slightly different supporting mods- but here is how they did:
Stage 4 NA Cam (Mustang Dyno) : 427 whp / 391 ft.lbs
Stage 3 NA Cam (Mustang Dyno): 416 whp / 372 ft.lbs
Stage 2 NA Cam (Mustang Dyno) : 406 whp / 377 ft.lbs
Stage 1 NA Cam (C6 on Dynojet) : 423 whp / 398 ft.lbs
SC Cam on an NA C5 (Dynojet) : 364 whp / 357 ft.lbs
@@StrictlyPerformanceMotorsports thank you
What was all done to this car to reach these numbers ? Cam/exhaust/cold air ?
Yah, pretty sure it was Cam, Longtube Headers, Exhaust, CAI, and a tune.
Feel free to call the shop for more info on something like this.
(269)350-9055
or shoot us an email
Sales@StrictlyPerformance.Parts
Nice I also have the BTR STAGE 4 CAM IN MY 04 C5 GOOGLE SWEET CORVETTE ON YOU TUBE THE VIDEO IS 30 SECOND'S LONG..
👍🏾👍🏾
56hp increase solely with a cam swap? Is that before tune ? Seems so worth it
It had an intake, exhaust and was already tuned from someone else before it got dropped off for the cam swap with us, so we obviously re-tuned it after we installed the cam. I believe this car only came in for our LS "Cam Swap Special" pack, which includes cam swap parts, install labor and custom tuning for each car specifically. Check out our "Cam Swap Special" here:
www.strictlyperformance.parts/upgrades-installs
*Please note we are, currently, only taking on 2009+ GM V8 platforms with the exception of 2000+ C5 and C6 Corvettes on a case by case basis. Any questions or inquiries please send the shop an email directly!
Sales@StrictlyPerformance.Parts
Does it require tuning to idle? Wonder what kind of times it would produce in the 1/4 mile over stock?
Great vid fellas
Definitely requires tuning all the way around! As far as 1/4mile times, haven't really had any C5 guys run at the strip (or at least report back) for comparisons- most of these C5s we do are street cars with some of the guys doing autocross stuff, with fewer still actual road course/track days.
Thanks for watching!
That last pull made my eyes roll back!!!! Also what brand is the rear spoiler? Or wing ? Also can you daily drive that car without getting pulled over every 3 blocks ? I’m thinking about caming it
Thing rips for sure! I'm not 100% sure what brand this wing is, but we've seen it on a couple of these C5s through the shop. None of our local guys have had any issues daily driving these cam setups as far being harassed/pulled over- but we are in Michigan, so, in my experience, you typically have to "have it coming" if you're getting nicked. If it's an auto car, you may want to upgrade the converter for a cam this aggressive, otherwise you're golden. Cam Swap is a great power upgrade for staying NA. We usually see 50-100whp increases depending on what cam you go for, and with supporting mods.
Stock heads? Which heads do you have I wanna run a similar setup with my ls2 c6
No cylinder head up grade needed at this power level. Stock heads breathe really well up to 500-600 hp
watch Richard Holdener from West Tech on UA-cam or read his books.
Good luck
Definitely stock heads.
@@408SPLKINGS very good to know
What other mods were done along with camshaft?
This C5 came in with an intake and exhaust (Don't remember if it had headers) and a random tune already on it. Then we did the Stage4 BTR cam with BTR's valvetrain/cam kit and our own tune on our old Mustang Dyno.
Strictly Performance Motorsports this car would have made 500 for sure if it had some PRC Heads on it
I think it would’ve made another 5-8 hp if you ran it to 7-7400rpm
Your Dynojet estimate is extremely optimistic for a 5.7 Also I think I saw 421.7 hp and not 427hp but maybe I was lost.
The Dynojet Estimate is a built in calculation provided in the Mustang Dyno software, and proven to be pretty accurate on testing with cars going from our Mustang to other Dynojet dynos. As for the 421.7whp, I know our camera guy/editor had several other projects he was covering that day and was in the room with the GoPro up until the last couple pulls. Captured on the GoPro was 421.7whp/388.6 tq ft.lbs. The Final Pull, captured on the Nikon (fixed camera) and what is on the Dynograph printout was 427whp / 391tq.
Yeah I don’t think 427rwhp on a C5Z is optimistic with a Stage 4 BTR cam, my buddy who has a great tuning shop has a base C5 with the Stage 3 putting down 408rwhp. My C5 with just exhaust put down 356rwhp. So the cam difference was 52hp roughly. So the 371-427 (56hp) with a stage 4 on a Z isn’t crazy optimistic. Those BTR cams are something else.
@@XxLevegencexX 427 seems about right, the Dynojet number they use is hilariously optimistic though.
Bob No... this is almost 2020, my very close friend with a base C5 and a BTR stage 2 cam and quick port job put down 432rwhp on a Dyno jet...
@@XxLevegencexX all parts being the same, the tuner operator & tuner applications makes the difference
No disrespect to Strictly Performance...
Blue smoke out the exhaust after dyno test?Air fuel ratio not correct.
Is that a mustang dyno?
Yes, it is a Mustang Dyno.
I don’t think it has enough tint 😂
Bigger heads, MSD manifold and CAI. WPULD HAVE BEEN 500RWHP
his face at 2:09 was says it all.
Why do we ask questions in the comments if nobody ever answers?