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I am a experienced retired german police officer and police trainer. In my opinion US police has some fundamental problems. The selection and the training in the US is poor.
A person who wants to become a german police officer has to pass a difficult test and psychological review. The paid fulltime training last about three years.
Another difference concerns police tactics. In Germany, proportionality and de-escalation play a major role. In the USA, it is very much about self-protection, enforcing and intimidation.
Another difference is that German police officers always work in pairs. This also leads to less aggressive behavior and therefore less difficult or panicky behavior on the part of citizens who are being controlled.
on the point.
I would add one aspect that I cannot comprehend other than the training...
HOW can the police work alone in the US? In Europe (in general), at least 2 police officers in a car. The risk of a 1 vs 1 is too dangerous for the police.
But in general, there is too much work to do the job safely alone (safely for the police and the public).
No way they could do this manouvre on the highway safely with 1 cop.
It's impossible to look for information, communicate and drive safely and effectively if the cop is alone. The team work makes such a massive difference.
In "big" cities like Zurich in Switzerland, they are 3 cops in standard cars.
Other major difference, the teams change all the time. No dangerous routine is possible. And it reduces the possible corruption of cops, and American cops are comparable to Russian cops... If the cop is with other cops he barely know, there is no way he gives a break to his friends, bribery is more difficult, unjustified violence will lead to trouble, etc...
So yeah, the US have A LOT to learn.
Another important point is that the vast majority of ordinary Western European citizens have great confidence in the police. This means that when the police say, for example, “Stop”, people understand that they are doing it for a good reason, that it is good for them, and therefore follow the instructions. People learn to react rationelly it's the best thing for everyone.
But of course there are always exceptions... unfortunately!
@@fabr5747 I guess that as so often in the US its all about money. The US approach is much cheaper. At least it seems as if it would be cheaper.
@@anjin-san In my many years of experience as a police officer, I wouldn't see it quite so positively. There are now also many problems in Germany and all over Europe.
It is true that the police is still not seen as an enemy by most citizens. This has to do with the self-perception of the police and police tactics. Not obeying police orders is not always answered with enforcement. The principle of proportionality is important.
Aggressive policing causes aggressive reactions.
There is no general speed limit, but around 40% of the whole length of german Autobahnen has speed limits for different reasons.
And another 20% has speed limit temporary in place due to constant repairs :)
and 90% of the autobahn in my area has a speed limit because of frickin construction and repair
The Polish driver wasn't pulled over just because he was Polish. An enormous amount of international traffic drives go through Germany.
Drivers from other countries, especially eastern european countrys tend more often to violate some rules, so they pulled over a little more often.
@@wizardmI guess you have some proper statistics for your discriminating answers here!?
@@bastian6625 That has nothing to do with discrimination. Official statistics are difficult to find because of political reasons. But I can say that based on police experience over decades.
@@bastian6625 Why do you think thats discrimination ? Official statistics are hard to find because of political reasons. What I said is based on long term police experience.
@@wizardm Aja great. Ofc, because of the government. Your argumentation, for me as a scientist, sounds like Trump, talking that there cannot be a climate change, because he feels it's cold every winter.
American police are more like an occupying army and its citizens are treated as hostiles. European police are seen as overseers and see themselves as responsible for the safe functioning of its citizens
An occupying army with qualified immunity (read: card blanche).
@@snowdropfox5754 And military-grade equipment.
@@Arsenic71 1033 program to support the needy US defens industry
Sounds like leftist gibberish to me, amounting to the same thing. What you want are "kinder gentler" police? LOL
@@Arsenic71 European police have had "military grade" equipment far longer than U.S. police.
the Road Safety Report 2018 from the World Health Organisation
listed the trafficdeath put the US on place 4 with 12,4 death per 100.000 inhabitans
Germany, on place 32, has only 4,1 death per 100.000
We had American cops training in our town in Germany. They couldn´t believe how lightly armed German cops were, but ALSO how much more training they got.
In the UK we don’t carry ANY firearms apart from irritant spray
@@Thomashorsman That's just not true.
@@MystikalSmoker1776 Who are you to tell me what I carry on me in my own job
@@Thomashorsman You are a UK police officer? Like all the countries? I didn't know that was a thing.
@@MystikalSmoker1776 While there are UK Police officers who are certified for firearms and carry them, they are far and between. As of 2022, of 142.000 Police officers in England and Wales, only 6.200 were firearms authorised. That comes down to Peele's Priciples. The situation is similar in Scotland, where firearms support is provided by specialised units. The situation is different for NI for obvious historical reasons. However, with 6.500 officers in total, that is a neglegible number.
So, in Great Britain, the situation is as the other poster describes.
A big differences between US and German police is the training time.
In the US the Police training is around 20-30 weeks (ie, less than a year). In Germany the Police training is 3 to 3,5 years. And the majority of that time is NOT spent on the shooting range but rather on learning for example conflict resolution.
I’ve done 140mph on the autobahn going to Poland, and it’s the most alive you will ever feel. The drivers are very disciplined over there too
I've done that on a motorcycle on I-5 heading into Seattle. Never crested 135 in a car. The car feels nice but the bike is spiritual.
We often drive to the eastern sea for vacation. Nowadays I’m driving slower, because with age comes wisdom (at least i hope it does 😉) - but i remember being younger, driving long stretches with +200 mph. If you look back at it it was stupid, obviously. But gas was cheap, and we were young and loved the speed. And there were not nearly as much traffic back then…😁
@@erebostd200mph? Did you have a Porsche Turbo or a Ferrari as a young guy or do you mean 200km/h. I am also little bit older and usually drive from 180-200 km/h on the Autobahn if there is not too mich traffic. Not as fast as when i was young 😂
@@markus8484 the dad of my girlfriend (a friend of the family who knew me since kindergarten) had a ruf ctr2 i was allowed to drive when they weren’t in Germany. Later i had an Audi RS4 b5 (because of my budget, a ruf or so was way out of my league) which we tuned „a bit“. I still have a old shaky photo, taken with a 2000s potato phone of its speedometer when we did 329km/h (probably closer to real 315 if you‘d have used a gps) 😁. Today i drive as little as possible, and basically everything electric. 130 is fast for me today 😁. I still own some… let’s say „faster“ cars - especially one Mercedes which is quite capable. But it isn’t the same in today’s traffic, and i much prefer a compfy, silent car that basically drives itself and i just need to overwatch everything…
HI Connor, it's all about training in Europe police are trained to de-escalate their training is much longer as an example in Germany, The degree is divided into three study phases with a 12-month basic study period in the 1st year, a 6-month extension studies and two 3-month internships in the individual police service in the 2nd year, and a 12-month specialized course in operations, investigations, and traffic and transport. whereas in the US On average, US officers spend around 21 weeks training, external before they are qualified to go on patrol.
This is a good point and true, but I still think that police would have to handle stuff way differently and with much more stress if they could expect any person to have a gun at the ready.
Yepp, but they would still be way better trained than the US Police. @@thomasfranz6467
Because of this americans police they are also violent as drivers participating in traffic. A violent country,violent drivers,even more violent policemen. Normal fot US,not for Germany.🤫🧏🤦♂️
@thomasfranz6467
This. Every person could pull a gun on a cop at every point in time. It's extremely stressful. German cops would be having a hard time in the US, their training isn't focused on tactics and gun use of a whole squad in an apartment or something.
@@rebel4466 you do realise criminals do carry guns in Europe..?
I think the better question is... why do americans call it "police" since english comes from european languages?
It's not, that the americans call it that way. It's the british they've got their language from. And the english word "Police" derives from the french word "Police" (even the pronunciation). So they actually use a european word. And it's kind of silly, giving the americans the sh*t for everything they don't do exactly the same as we do. The germans call it Polizei, the italians call it Polizia, Politi for the swedish and so on. So Police actually fits in perfectly.
@@Prof.Dr.Diagnoseits Polis in swedish :)
@@Prof.Dr.Diagnose And the French word "Police" originally comes from Greek
@@erikstenviken2652 Oh right, i mixed it up with the norwegian term. My bad ;)
@@malouasounds Exactly. So a fully european creation
You are right that Polizei, Police, Polis, Politi, etc. is pretty much the same word in many countries.
It stems from Latin, which again got it from Greek.
Origin is Greek "Polis" meaning "City".
Latin "Politia" - meaning "citizenship/public administration".
and so on
I believe the modern usage comes from France ca. 17th century.
Relates modern words would of course be "Policy", "Politician", "Metropolis", "Cosmopolite/an". And even "policlinic" (lit. "city bed").
Polizei (pol-ee-tz-eye) is the word for police in most Germanic languages. In Sweden it's spelled polis. In Spain they use Gardia (civil guards), as does Ireland with its Garda. The French use Gendermerie (people of arms), and in Welsh it's Heddlu (peace keepers).
The Gendarmerie in France is not the typical police
That’s wrong. In Spain / Spanish the Police is generally determinated as “ Policia “ Then you have diferent type of Policia. You the “ Guardia Urbana “ which is the local Police in each Village and City. Then you have the “ Policia Nacional “ which is overregional and responsible for the major frontier controls. Than you have Regional Police in different independ comunities like Catalonia ( Mossos de esquadra ) or in the Basque country ( Erxantxa ) . The Guardia Civil is still Police Unit from the Franco Times, originally with a paramilitar organisation. Today specialized in major crimes, organized crime, sea and coast guard, as well as traffic guards all over the spanish territory.
The gendarmerie was created after the French Revolution as a paramilitary unit to combat local uprisings by royalists. In Germany it was created as Schutzpolizei after the two world wars. The official army was banned, but soldiers were needed to combat uprisings. For this reason, many countries have two types of police: one for everyday tasks and one with military training for serious crimes and uprisings / demonstrations / security at football matches / ...
@@alexspanien2926The Guardia Civil dates from 1844.
When a word is used in mayn languages it comes from Greek or Latain.
"Etymologically, the term Polizei comes from the ancient Greek πόλις polis, “city”. The derivation πολιτεία politeía, “state administration”, was first adopted in Late Latin as politia, later the spelling changed to policia"
In germany we have much less (deadly) accidents than in the US. With european countries that have a general speed limit, there are some, that have more and some with lower casualties. But speed is not the only reason to consider. Also the road conditions, abilities of the drivers and the safety of the cars are have to be thought of. In Germany on average all these things are at the very high end. Most (deadly) accidents in Germany don't happen on the autobahn though. They occur on the smaller country roads which have a speed limit of 100 km/h (62mph) but are more curvy and two-way traffic in general. So yes, high speed can lead to accidents and death, but most of the time it is EXCESSIVE speed that is not adapting to the traffic conditions that causes problems. Even in germany u have to adjust your speed to the surroundings. Speeder don't do it now and they won't with a general speed limit. But it will hurt all those, that are responsible drivers and like to go a bit faster when the conditions are good.
A word to the pulled out Poland Truck ... they are infamous and are watched by the police for a good reason. The are called the "Polen-Sprinter". The drivers are either poor guys or ignorants. Usually, they don't (can) care about pauses and drive-time restrictions and are driving through Europe and doing delivering jobs, no decent transport company would do. They seem to try to underrun the controls and are using partly not the Autobahn. I heard an example that one driver drove a damaged piece from Germany to the south of Italy, it was in short time fixed and he drove it back instantly. Usually, this job would have taken 3 or 4 days, it was done in 2. Just think about, what could have happened, if he would have fallen asleep and caused an accident.
Polizei is a German word, the origin of all the different words for police is the Greek "polis", which means city - so a police officer is a servant of his city/country.
That's one version
The police were invented in England - by Sir Robert Peel, as a sort of government funded vigilante squad
They were given a nickname "the Peelies"
Which, naturally becomes "Police" if it's not written down
@@jazzx251Not really, it came via French into the English language. And while it has its origins in Ancient Greek, it was the Latin version that spread it around Western Europe, directly into the Romance languages and via French into almost all Germanic languages in some form, as well as possibly via German into many Slavic languages.
Deutschland - Polizei
Österreich - Polizei
Schweiz - Polizei, Police, Polizia
Italien - Polizia
Frankreich - Police
Belgien - Police, Politie
Niederlande - Politie
Dänemark - Politi
Schweden - Polis
Norwegen - Politiet
Finnland - Poliisi
7:00 In Germany/Europe, blood alcohol is usually given in ‰ (per mille = 1/1000) and in the USA in % (percent = 1/100). Of course the UK has something different
in the UK we use micrograms per 100ml of breath and the limit is 35µg
the legal limit in most of the states is .08% any idea what that equates to in.......metric? lol
@@MystikalSmoker1776 Percentages are independent of the unit. It does not matter whether it is measured in liters or fl oz
@@swisspeach67 I meant as far as the amount of alcohol you consume to be over the limit. Apparently in the US it's about it's about four drinks in an hour for a man. Which from my experience in not getting charged seems about right.
Why do they all refuse to use something like mol/L or mmol/L, as a chemist would?
Check out Sabine Schmitz ( RIP).
The Z in German is pronounced as ts, it is TSeitgeist.
Greetings from the Netherlands.
in France, Police recruits go to a police training school for one year and go through practical training for another year. In order to become a qualified Police Officer in the UK, you must pass fitness and medical tests. If you currently possess appropriate Level 3 qualifications, you must also complete a degree-level Professional Policing qualification, which typically takes two to three years to complete. Depending on what you choose after completing your sixth-form education becoming a police officer in the UK might take anywhere from two to three years.
Just to note that you do not need a degree nor do you need to earn one alongside your job. I opted for the degree apprenticeship because it is a free degree at the end of the day, but you can join on the Police Constable Entry Programme which is without a degree.
In Poland the blood alcohol level over 0.25 will get you in trouble, half of the German one.
I had to look because .25 is REALLY drunk. What I see for Poland is .02. In most of the States it's .08%. I blew .086 and had my car impounded and my girl stranded while I went for a ride with a cop too stupid to figure out that in 10 minutes I'd be legal again.
@@MystikalSmoker1776 yeah, missed the zero there
@@Dreju78 Aye it also appears the formula is different. I'm terrible at math so I asked another commenter below who pointed out the difference if they new what the equivalent is. For us .02 would be about 1 pint of American beer for a man.
@@MystikalSmoker1776 In Poland, we typically say it's 0.2 in casual conversations, but we measure it in permils, not percents. 1 percent is 10 permils.
@@Vengir Sweet, thank you.
I think that it has a lot to do with the training, why European and US police officers are so different. As an example, to become a police officer in Germany, you have to complete 3 years of learning and exams. in contrast, in the United States you only need 500 hours to become a police officer, which is more than half less than what it takes to become a hairdresser, they have to receive at least 1300 hours of training. In other words: If you are not on a tree at 3, you can become a policeman at any time!!
I once took a final test for the Texas Police Academy that you could download (for pratice). It was just ridiculously easy. I passed the test with 0 mistakes. Even the IHK 34a (so that you can work as a security guard) test in Germany is much harder. I don't even want to compare it to the test you have to take in Germany to become a police officer.
Polizei, is pronounced 'Politz(i)' with the 'I' at the end said as we would pronounce the letter. In France it's also 'Police' unless it's the Gendarmerie nationale who are paramilitaries. Polizei is used in German speaking countries other than Switzerland who use the Anglo-French name, at least on their vehicles, presumably due to having four official languages? Scandinavian countries have variations "Polis"
Not really that much variations in Scandinavia, the Swedes are the odd one out. :)
Sweden = Polis
Norway = Politi
Denmark = Politi
@@JanGaarni I know but It's close enough for Connor, without writing a bloody novel.
Swiss police vehicles have "Polizei" written on them in the German speaking regions.
Right in Rumanien is POLITI +an A. POLITIA. 👍🇹🇩.
"Polizei" in Germany, "Police" in France (and Belgium and Luxembourg), "Politie" in the Netherlands, "Polis" in Sweden, "Politiet" in Norway, "Polizia" in Italy, "Policia" in Spain ... Why "Polizei" in Germany? Different countries use different languages I guess ;) No seriously: all the words for police have the same (ancient) greek origin: "Polis" meaning city or state or citizenship. The word "politics" has the same origin.
In Germany, blood/breath alcohol levels are in per-mille not percent.
So, that was only 0.03 per-mille, which would be 0.003 in the US.
A limit of 0.5‰ in Germany would be 0.05% in the US.
The slogan of the Police in Germany is "Your friend and helper."
9:22 There is that old joke that heaven was a place where the chefs are French, the lovers are Italian, the mechanics are German, the police are British and all is organised by the Swiss. Whereas hell is a place, where the chefs are British, the lovers Swiss, the mechanics French, the police German and all is organised by the Italians.
A current update to this joke would be that hell is a place where the police is USAian. I think they should change their ubiquitous motto from "to serve and to protect" to "to intimidate and to oppress".
So many nations call law enforcement agencies with words similar to „Polizei“, because that word originates from Greek and Latin terms.
So all languages that date back to Latin will have such terms.
as a german, I'm not aware of any other countries (that don't speak german),
that use "Polizei" for "police".
The danish say "politi",
the dutch say "politie",
the swedes say "polis",
The polish say "KURWA"
In Luxembourg it is now Police. There used to be to organisations Police who were local and Gendarmerie who were national.
Accidents resulting in death on the Autobahn are 3.8 per 100,000
for comparison, in the USA it is 12.7 ...
not even 1% carry a weapon
To the origins of Polizei or Police: Simple - the word comes from ancient greek Polis, means city or state. Later, the word shifted from the municipality to the ovicials, the civil or public servants. Due to the different languages and the age of the word, its obvious that the name is shifting thru the languages and times.
Regarding the high speed debate... In Germany there are 4 deaths on the roads per 100.000 compared to 12 in the US.
One thing most Americans wouldn't enjoy in Germany: Cops can pull you over without a reason. You're required to give a cop your ID as well. Crime or not.
In the UK you have to wait 20 minutes until after your last drink before you can be breathalysed to get rid of the alcohol vapours in your mouth.
No its total different. Here in The Netherlands we call it Politie. But where I born italy we call it polizia, and there we can call it also carabinieri.
Aren't the carabinieri and the polizia actually different institutions?
@@thomasfranz6467 Its the same like in France:
There in the Cities is the the Police National in Italy the Polizia National)
Out in the rural communties is the Gendarmerie )as the Carabinieri)
@@thomasfranz6467 Polizia is federal and carabinieri is local police, similar to the German Bundespolizei und Polizei.
In Italy polizia is organized under the home office (ministry of interior affairs?) and the carabinieri are part of the department of defense..
The data suggests that there are less accidents in Germany compared to other countries with similar infrastructure and with general speed limits. In fact most accidents in Germany also happen in areas where there is a speed limit. In some ways the absence of speed limits might improve traffic safety as people have to be much more disciplined while driving in these areas as you have to always maintain your right lane and always have to be aware of your surroundings since at anytime some big BMW might appear in the rear mirror and then pass you with 150mph a few seconds later...
Check the 417km/h on the Autobahn amazing Stuff
It was, in this special case, perfectly legal. No one else was put in danger.
Should have an ejection seat just in case 😅
germany has one of the lowest accident rate in the world despite we have no speed limit.
I tested the maximum velocity for every car i had on the autobahn when it was empty. I travel on the autobahn with high speeds but think that safety is not inly about speed but about following the rules and always checking your surroundings. You have to know what is going on not just in front of you, but also behind you. Also i think everybody should do Fahrsicherheitstraining (Drivesagetraining) every few years. Then you can handle your car in every situation.
Its a simple answer as to why the world POLIZEI or related, its because of their languages to which the English language we both speak is rooted from - English is rooted from the Germanic language family. You can't expect them all to have the "Police" as you know it.
The polish diver was stopped not because he is polish but because it is common that polish drivers are payed very bad and so the often break traffic laws, drive without enough breaks (too tired), have technical defects in their vehicle. Usually traffic police has a good eye for this.
without enough breaks (too tired), without enough brakes (technical defects)
The Germans REALLY tkae driving etiquette and safety seriously, hence they don't have speed limits
There are speed limits in Germany, Stop that no speed limit fairytale!
@@pub652 thiis pice was about the parts of the autobahn that has no speed limits, maybe you should watch it
Accident statistics show that accidents depend less on general speed limits than on the quality of driver training, vehicle condition and the quality of the roads.
For this reason, Germany has relatively fewer accidents than most countries with general speed limits.
As the police officer said, most accidents are caused by excessive speed. That doesn't mean that you can't go fast safely at all, but the right circumstances have to be there, and people have to be very disciplined.
To my knowledge, Germany has about half of the amount of traffic fatalities per kilometre and capita than the US, but is generally worse than other European countries with a general speed limit (although not by much).
Btw I don't have a clear opinion on the whole speed limit debate, I just think there's arguments to be made for both cases.
@@thomasfranz6467 His answer was a little sloppy and incorrect. Accidents are usually not caused by high speed but by inappropriate speed. This is also stated in the accident reports. In addition, the number of accidents on highways is comparatively low. Most speed related accidents happen on rural roads. More accidents happen on highways in most other European countries with the same traffic density. More variable speed limits would be ideal, not general speed limits.
@@wizardmA general speed limit would reduce accidents and the severity of accidents to some degree. In situations where the appropriate speed would be for example 120 km/h, fewer people would drive 180 km/h (and thus at an inappropriate speed) if there were a general speed limit, just to avoid getting a ticket or even losing their license.
@@aphextwin5712 Its not that simple. A general speed limit will increase accidents by monotony. The number of speeding tickets will raise.
If less severe accidents are really the goal there should be more variable speed limits and better security features on cars.
The most dangerous way to drive is riding by bike. But more biking is defined politically as better.
The biggest effects on the amount and severity of driving accidents over years resulted of technical features. Crumble zones, security glass, impact absorbers, safety belts and headrests, airbags, ABS, active steering, automatic emergency brakes. Another factor are mandatory technical security inspections and better training to get a license.
Another problem are accidents caused by professional transport drivers on highways.
Overall, a general speed limit on highways is neither a necessary nor a proportionate method of significantly reducing the number of severe accidents. The whole thing is an ideological debate.
@@wizardmWhy are so many people unable or unwilling to discuss positive and negative aspects of their position on any topic? It seems that once you pick a side in any topic, all you do is defend your position and talk down on the opposing position.
Any intellectually honest person acknowledges that a general speed limit would reduce accidents and their severity to some degree and also would reduce overall fuel consumption somewhat. And that the reasons against a speed limit are that it is fun to drive fast, that depending on traffic it can get you faster to your destination. The lack of a speed limit probably also benefits German car manufacturers (or at least did in the past) but this effect is much harder to quantify.
Listing all other factors affecting road safety is nothing but an exercise in deflection. The question is not whether a speed limit improves safety, the question is whether it improves safety enough to justify restricting drivers. And that is not a question that can be objectively answered because it relies on value judgements.
Hungarians say : rendőrség.
Don’t try to say it.
the german police slogan is, "the police. your friend and helper"
(1:40) You don't say ‘Polizei’ in the following countries:
Denmark: politi
Sweden: polis
The Netherlands: politie
France: police
In Germany and the other European states it is important that truck drivers are rested and that they manage to reach their destination without risk. A truck can cause a lot of damage if it gets into an accident.
Having lived in Germany a while my opinion is that the difference between German and American police officers is that Germans are less afraid to confront citizens, and less afraid that a confronted citizen pulls out a gun and starts shooting. That they work in rotating pairs (also for legal reasons) makes them much more secure and they see the citizen less as the potential enemy.
That's one of many benefits you get from propper gun control laws
The origin of the word "police" comes from the Greek word "politeia", which means "state power". This shows what the police are responsible for: public safety and order.
In the USA, police training lasts, on average, 15-16 weeks. In Germany the training lasts 30 months. That says it all already.
In France it's called 'Gendarmerie' but the word for Police is pretty similar in germanic languages, also in english, which is a germanic language as well.
Compared to other EU countries with speed limits, Germany has one of the lower death rates, both per capita and much more important for billion km driven, with currently being about 1,3 deaths per billion km. Frace as a similar country has quite substantian higher numbers.
The difference is that the Autobahns are build to handle the speeds safely, and the drivers education is excellent, rigerous and costly. Compared to US, most european drivers have much higher driver education, and a drivers license is not seen as a right, but a privelege.
No real universal speed limit, only several speed restricted areas where often you'll get flashed when speeding
An ego trip is the words you were looking for
In Europe, every policeman/woman has to go through a multi year training and many tests before being a part of the executive branch of the state. If you want to become a detective, it is similar to a university degree.
Police in Germany ist (most of the times...) at the service of the people.
The word “police” and its many variations basically comes from the ancient Greek word “polis” for “city” or “community”. The term "police" actually originates from Greek πολιτεία (politeía) for "state administration". It has been adopted from French into the English language for the administration of public order and law-enforcement in a community since the late 17th century.
Why Polizei looks like Police? It´s Roman Latin based languagedevelopment over the centuries
A few years ago as I was in driving school, my driving teacher let me do almost 300kmh on the autobahn, 185mph, that was crazy!
In Europe usually you just don't have to fear the police, if you haven't done anything bad. In Germany we have a saying "Die Polizei, dein Freund und Helfer." - 'The Police, your friend and helper.'
As an American living in Europe . The traffic laws are simply followed and respected. Let alone drivers train for 6-12 months in all weather conditions for a drivers licenses and pay around 1500-3000 euros for a license . Not like the USA were everyone takes a bs drivers test and gets a license within 30mins . I think USA should adopt these practices for young drivers .
Side not : I love driving on the AUTOBAHN in my Mercedes at top speed . Everyone should try it !
As a German I'm for speedlimit but only for foreigners. 😂
As someone working in logistics i can tell you that the majority of freight traffic is either german or polish and a lot of other trucks i would guess around 80% are trucks from outside of germany, so them stopping specifiically the polish truck is not intentional and to be even more honest, its not just a stereotype that polish drivers are the ones most often violating some laws.
People shall also take in mind that Autobahn is yes currently without speed limit while all "smaller" interstate roads are limited to 100 kmh (63 mph) and in centres of smaller towns and villages are now predominately limited to ridiculous 30 kmh (19 mph) for noise and "pollution" reduction.
On Autobahn you have to have good car and not clogged traffic to utilize it no speed limit. Generally there is no need to go beyond 160 kmh (100mph) as it brings marginal time gain with significant risk increase + in EU is more expensive fuel so with each +10-20 kmh above 120 you get additional 1L of fuel expense, so you can question yourself if those 5 min gained really worth those 1.8 euro for 1 L (Cheapest petrol 95 octane at the moment is around 1.8 eur/L --> 7.9 $ a Gallon) .
Polizei is not thar different from Police. The same with Polis in Sweden or politie in Dutch. Its all originated from the same germanic language tree
For driving with a high speed, you have to stay alert all time; also for drivers driving a lower speed. They are all less distracted.....
"Polizei" is based on the old greek word "politeia" ... a lot of roman/greek based languages using "developed" version of the old greek term ... englisch, German, French, Spanish have the same origin
I am Afraid Polizei is soundly German. Which is also spoken in Switserland and Austria. But here you. Just a few.
French Police
German Polizei
Danish Politi
Finnish Poliisi
Polish Policja
Italian Polizia
Dutch Politie
Spanish Policia
Actually "Polizei" is exclusively used in German speaking countries. Germany, Austria and (partly) Switzerland.
In Denmark and Norway it's Politi and in The Netherlands it's Politie. In Sweden and Finland Polis.
In Finland it's poliisi
As to the origin and background of the term “police”: The word is derived from the ancient Greek “polis”. In ancient Greece, this was the designation for the so-called city states -- and those city states were equipped with forces of order (likely as the first police forces that existed in history). From here, this word -- of course in its linguistic variations -- found its way into many languages.
BTW, since you mentioned the mission or attitude of the police in Germany and other EU countries, the motto the German police (as an example) is "Dein Freund und Helfer" -- i.e., "Your friend and helper", which is somewhat the counterpart to "To help and protect" in the US.
Furthermore, In Germany the police are not permitted to just ask stopped drivers “What are you doing?” unless there is a concrete suspicion of a crime. Otherwise, the driver would rightly ask back “What do you mean, what am I doing? You should know that this is none of your business.”
Your final thoughts are quite interesting. Personally, I don't have a "know-it-all answer", but one thing is for sure: Being more chilled in many dangerous situations defintely has to do with the thorough basic three-year education and on-the job training of German police officers.
Many thanks for reacting to this!
Best wishes from Germany
I have lived in Germany for almost 50 years, and I have never encountered a German police officer who was power tripping. Maybe that's because they have to do almost three years of training.
Also because they're officers of the state ("Beamte"). They cannot be fired except for gross misconduct, they have a really good retirement package, they get lots of special deals, etc.
Anyone would be stupid to risk that. Also, during the training (before they're declared officers of the state), they get psy evals and tests to weed out those idiots that might go on a power trip.
Police in Europe is more about safety. I was driving 25 mph over the limit in the netherlands but keeping my distance etc. I noticed an unmarked car following me. Moved to the right lane and let him overtake me. They just gave me a thumbs up and left me alone. Yes I was driving to fast but apperently they decided I was doing it safely.
It is truck scales (weigh stations) not truck stops where truckers in the US and Canada have to pull off the highway to get weighed and inspected. Truck stops are where truckers top to rest / sleep.
As for why they pulled over a Polish truck in this clip...experience and gut feeling. Vehicles from Eastern Europe are on average more likely to be in violation of the rules than a truck from, say the Netherlands or Denmark.
1:44 The transliteration is po- lee- tseye. The origin is from Middle Latin policia, from the Latin politia, from classic Greek politeia citizens right or state. Since Latin was the pan-European language for nigh on 1200 years, the word drifted into every language, and since Europe colonised most of the world, it became ubiquitous.
The discussion about speed limits in Germany has changed in recent years.
Now it is more about reducing CO2 emissions than the accident rate.
Cars in Germany are much safer than they were 20 years ago, but this has also made them much heavier. The engines are very efficient nowadays, but if you reduce fuel consumption by 50%, but the car is twice as heavy as before, it doesn't change much in terms of C02 emissions. And since the efficiency is also greatly reduced at high speeds and thus the C02 emissions increase, this is the main reason for the debate about speed limits on the highways in Germany...
In europe cops are more chill because they dont have to fear tjat anyone can and will pull a gun on them. America is just a brutal and paranoid place in this perspective
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136 ... you look like Doc Brown wondering why the flux capacitor hasn't kicked in at 88mph 😂😂😂
Just a little thought experiment:
US cops enforce the law.
Die deutsche Polizei stellt die Einhaltung der Gesetze sicher. = The German police ensures the laws are upheld.
Notice the difference?
I haven't found a better description of the difference in mindsets.
Edit 1: being Polish isn't the criterion for pulling him out, at least not just due to nationality. Driving from Poland to anywhere not within Eastern Germany takes some time. If I understood them correctly they were patrolling in Hesse(n) which is located right smack-dab in the middle of Germany. It takes at least 6 hours directly from the Polish-German border to reach any spot within Hessen. Truckers have a mandatory rest period every few hours which they have to register in their driver's checkbook. Every. 4.5 hours a trucker HAS to have a rest-stop of 45 minutes, with a total of nine hours regular max per day, or once a week up to 10 hours per day as extended driving times. With the time it usually takes from Poland to the center of Hessen that driver should have taken at least one rest-stop, minimum, if he had started anywhere directly on the border. If he had started deeper in Poland and reached that spot there's a pretty good chance he was already way over his alotted maximum of ten hours driving per day. Meaning at least two rest stops.
So being Polish as some kind of racial profiling wasn't the reason; the distance traveled would be the reason. Unfortunately, yes, that makes it a lot easier for foreign drivers to be detected among the sea of German vehicles. However long distance freight in Germany also gets checked regularly, as the license plates for trucks from certain areas also make determining their probably driving distance and times possible.
Add any kind of strange behavior like swerving, rough lane behavior, etc into the mix, and then they have every reason to check up on them.
If youre curious about the word Polizei wait until you get that Dollar comes from Taler which was a german and european word for a special silver coin. I think it has to do with the romanic empire. They spreaded their language or language parts all over Europe.
I usually drive not over 200Kmh but what people dont know ist that you are much more aware of everything going on when you drive fast that when you duddly along not paying attention.
Polizei (Police) comes from the greek language. "Polis" means city or state. It is related to the word "politica" (state affair). "Politeia" means state administration. And because nowadays the duties of the police is still the enforcement of the (laws of the) state, it makes sense to use the "basic form" Polizei, Police, Politie, etc.
All goes back to the roots in the greek language...
Polizei is only in german speaking countrys but the term is allways pretty similar because the word police/polizei/politie (dutch)/polis(sweden) etc is from the greek word politeia what sowhat mean like State power.
I love germany. Things work. Everyones on the same page and knows what to do. German people are educated and get things done. They are respectful to the law and so the police dont need to have a heavy handed attitude. They just make sure society runs smoothly according to the law and they help people out. World = take note!
The word "Polizei" can be traced back to the Greek "pólis" which means city(state) or "politeía" which is citizens rights or state government. This in turn influenced the latin language where we get politia, which is obviously basically the same word. With all the screwing around, colonizing and conquering the greeks and romans did, it should come to no surprise that words stemming from that are used all around europe. IIRC the "Polizei" and "Police/Policia" split stems from the early middle ages. Spainish, French and English are using Police/Policia while Italy and a bunch of "Germanic" languages are using something with a "z".
If you want to know why that is, you'd have to ask an actual linguist. Or the internet, lol.
In Deutschland gibt es keine Geschwindigkeitsbegrenzungen. Hier kann man sein Auto ausfahren. 270 - 350 km AMC Mercedes, Porsche Carrera, Audi Lamborghini Vollgas. Bei Berlin fuhr ein Bugatti über 400 km.
Du machst deinem Namen gerade mal wieder alle Ehre. Nur mit der Wahrheit nimmst du es nicht sonderlich genau. Ca. 30 Prozent des deutschen Autobahnnetzes haben inzwischen bereits ein Tempolimit, also Geschwindigkeitsbegrenzungen. Hinzu kommen Baustellen. Alles nachzulesen auf der Seite des ADAC. Wenn du schon Geschichten erzählst, dann aber bitte keine Märchen.
The difference is, that german cops are protectors, while US cops are hunters.
Example: in 2023 a total of 65 shots were fired at people from cops and 9 suspects killed.
In the same year 1163 people were killed by cops in the USA. That is 129 times more than in Germany by only 4 times more citizens.
Those numbers speak for themselves.
In Germany cops are called as
“Freund und Helfer“
(friend and helper)
In europe the police is ALWAYS together in a car never one alone
Different language with the same roots. Polizei, Police, Policia it’s all I think from Latin.
You shocked about 130mph+. Funny to see. My fastest was 162mph. And funfact: German autobahn is the most safest Hoghway in the world.
In the us almost everyone could wearing a Gun. That’s why us police is more aggressive
In a nutshell: USA definitely is a police state, jails are mostly private owned and need to be filled with convicts to earn money. Training for policemen is very short and poor in quality. Cops become tyrants to fulfill their quota.
In Europe people mostly know how to behave, their standard of living is usually higher than in the US, therefore crime rate is much lower there. Police officer’s training is much longer (2-3 years) and cops are widely accepted in society. Being a policeman is just like a normal job.
The word Polizei, police, policie...
All belongs to the old greek word politeia, which means state [or government[al]] authority. Or in german Staatsgewalt 😉
Why the police in germany is more relaxed and can do there actual job?
First of all it's because here in germany not every idiot can have a gun. You can have a gun, but it's time consuming, costly and you need a criminal record certificate. Furthermore you are not allowed to carry a gun in public.
So it's very unlikely for them to encounter a person with a gun.
And for the speed in the Autobahn. There is one important traffic law that allows these speeds and/or much more traffic on the Autobahn before you get a traffic jam like in the US: You have to drive at the rightmost lane except when overtaking another vehicle.
It doesn't sound much, BUT the effect is:
- the slowest traffic is in the right lane, mostly trucks and cars getting on or off the Autobahn (and you get on and off the Autobahn ONLY to the right side)
- the middle lane is for the intermediate traffic
- the left lane is the fast lane often even free of traffic when there are not many cars on the road
- the traffic organizes itself slowest to the right and getting faster to the left
- not to much speed difference between lanes
- no vehicle hinders an other
You should consider such law(s) in the US, freedom is not everything considering...
Gendarmerie is police in France
The disput on speed limit on Germany has less to do with safety but more with environmental issues.
Less CO2.
But there is a secret reason why Germany, normaly on top of the countries caring for safety and environmental rules, are avoiding a speed limit:
It’s a selling argument for german cars in foreign countries.
Everyone in the world knows that german cars are built for driving very fast on the german Autobahn.
And german cars are mostly really better to handle with over 100miles/h.
I once were driving the Audi A8 (330hp) of my boss with 160 miles/h and it was astonishing easy and felt save - with special high speed tires you drive like on railroad tracks.
But of course you can and should do that only on an absolute empty Autobahn - and that happens very very seldom - normaly heavy traffic is the reality.
So, it’s more an mythos, an advertising image trick, that helps to sell german cars worldwide.
And because in Germany the car industry is literally our government we probably will never have a speed limit on the Autobahn.
If you drive faster than 130km/h and have an accident, it becomes pretty much your fault and responsibility for insurance and judges. There is the rule of adapted speed. Overtaking has to be done without endanger other road users. But most people driving fast doesn't seem to know this or are ignorant, which you can assume because of also ignoring the safety gap.
US police protects by force whereas european police serves society. It also has something to do with the gap in training. US training is some weeks, european training is years.
It comes from the Greek word "politeia", which means "state power".
3:26 "Everyone braked, one person didn't". Looks like he came to a stop nevertheless 😉
Autobahn rule #1: It doesn't matter how fast you go, there is ALWAYS someone faster than you, so don't hog the fast lane.
And: No speed limit on the Autobahn actually makes Germany the "Land of the Free and Home of the Brave" 😁
a knife longer than 2inches u get trouble
Same word for police because they all originate from latin or adopted an already known term.
*greek, from polis (city), making police the "men of the city"