there is progress and evolution.Science and art..also human is a social being.when working in a team he can unleash his best potential.Thats the light side
RayVitoles And a lot of times that potential has been used with ominous intentions, which is where the popular saying: "Ends justify the means" came from. Light can be corrupted.
RayVitoles progress and evolution are delusions of the mind that's desperate to escape reality by constructing a false one destined to collapse. Science and art are nothing more than distractions from insufferable reality. Teamwork is a charade that is fated to break down as team members inevitably try to destroy each other. Advancement is temporal, turmoil is eternal.
I think this scene showcases how fantastic Monster handles horror. There's no blood gargling creatures, nobody is being tortured or killed in extravagant fashion. It's just humans being evil that scares us the most.
Yea that what I loves about urasawa works. Usually in "adult" seinen anime/manga, you will see a lots of blood and gore shit for the sake of meaningless shock value but he never tries to do that. He only expressed it through storytelling.
I don't get it. He made the kid pass through a red-light district after saying some edgy stuff. Big deal. Kids around the world go through similar or worse things so what makes this scene so special? Thank you. After seeing that you're essentially gushing from a lazy scene like this convinced me that Monster is an over-rated show that's not worth my time.
@@Olegnas705 I see. You're the type of person who pumps up their ego by finding meaning in poorly written scenarios and reveling in the fact that other people didn't find it as deep as you did. There are less embarrassing ways to shape existential insight than consume media aimed at edgy 14yos while singing praises of how profound and realistic it is. What this is is selling nihilism as reality. There's nothing realistic or scary about it, besides the fact that some people are dumb enough to take it seriously. No offense.
Monster is one of those rare stories that pits pure evil and pure good against each other and have it be complex and layered. This scene showcases that perfectly.
@Squee505 Shut up instead of trying to seem deep and clever. It is reknown that Johan is the embodiment of evil, evil is humanity and society, Johan is the fruit out of it. Good? There is no good. None is the embodiment of good, but some people like Tenma cannot be described as really bad
@@agarrikr2996 I will even say there IS good, it's not because we can not be perfect that goodness doesn't exist. The absolute good is actually not absolute, it exists as an imperfect form but it's still here, as a will, as a try, as courageous action, a selfless decision, a purely generous ambition filled with the love and admiration we have for others and the world. It's not perfect because it can not be, but Tenma does have a fundamentally good "nature".
+Rina Farrell he was like that from birth ...a real monster......the entity known as monster travels all around the world ....its a shadow on the wall....it just happened to be around Johan ....it moved to him when his mother abandoned Nina.....Johan didnt think that his mother did it out of compassion but that she mistook him for his sister when it was clearly not so...thats when the monster went into Johan
Yes Johan's way of being a killer is very long and extremely painful, i do believe i starts very long ago when he was very little, then he gets as fucked as possible after his mother's choice, then waits for someone alone while reading the nameless monster, then Nina comes back and tells him about his experiments, after their mother tells them to survive by themselves, then Johan starts crying and ithat's the moment he became like that, he burns the place with his sister and starts his murders, then he and Nina see the ''scenery for a doomsday'' while starving alone, this is the creation of his nihilistic perspective, then they faint with the intent of dying, General Wolf saves him and Johan probably didn't like that because he wanted to die after the creation of his nihilistic perspective, then he is sent to Kinderheim and fucked up more and more with those experiments, it doesn't matter if he was beyond their programs when he came there they still experimented on him, he later starts the massacre as a ''true monster.Later he is adopted alongside Nina and he kills the Lieberts after sensing Franz Bonaparta, the ''monster'' in Johan's eyes.Then he wants to die and asks Nina to shoot him, after he is saved by Tenma, he is grateful for Tenma and sympathizes him, but he wants to prove Tenma that his perspective is the right.
I know its been a long time since this video was posted it, but I would like to notice that the reason why Grimmer cries is because he see himself in Milos, and everything he says to him, he is saying it to himself. The way he says "You were born for a reason. Somebody loved you" is like he is talking to himself. And it's beautiful.
I was wondering that while watching this (and in the dub version too). Was it really the voice-actor for Johan who voiced him throughout the time he was pretending to be his sister? Or was it the voice-actor for Anna/Nina?
crzyboy190 Thanks for clarifying that. I checked the Spanish version on UA-cam and in that version it sounded like a male voice actor doing Johan's impersonation of Nina, which was also quite effective.
Never truly understood how monstrous Johan really was until I reached this episode. It's not about killing a person. It's not about manipulating someone against his will. It's about sending a young boy to the darkest corner of humanity and allowing his pure white and innocent state of mind to be tarnished black, thus potentially killing him from the inside out.
What's so good with this episode (as well as the one with kids jumping off rooftops) is that both sadism and mercy can be motivations for Johan's actions and they're both equally monstruous. On the one hand, it could be pure, absolute sadism. Creating thoughts in those kids that would utterly destroy their core just to end innocent lives in the cruelest way possible. On the other hand, it could be that Johan is simply showing them his truth. To him, only death makes us equal. Make Milos realise that his existence is meaningless, a mistake nobody cares about, and offer him the epiphany of death after the revelation. For the other kids, show them what existence is about: defying death until it occurs. It's still absolute sadism, but it's the nature of Johan's view of life. He drags you to hell with him, a place where only he is at peace.
Yes , even I didn't realise how cruel Johan was until I reached this 49th episode. To be honest, I was worn apart while watching it. Just imagine how he might have thought? Seeing those things he might've thought that's how his mother was also treated and that's why abandoned him. That clg professor was also MONSTER according to me. Even thou Mr.Grimmer didn't know how to express his emotions. His words came out from his heart with healed Milos on the spot a bit. Of course he can't overcome quickly from that trauma but his friends and the people surrounding him are really good and charming. I don't think Johan saw this anol when he was his age. He was sent to that 511 kinderheim. Like forcexjr said He killed that kids innocent mind this just blew my mind too.
Completely agree. When there is terror one still has a deep care for life but the caring is fear based. In this case the child went into a state of total apathy and lacked any reason to live any longer.
Yeah... Fear is something that can be overcome... But despair, hopelessness and the feeling of emptiness... Even for me... I've though many times as to why I was born... Isn't it easier to die... But I dunno the answer that is what keeps me going... Even if it's for another day... I would want to eat that delicious meal, want to watch that awesome show...
@@amara2886 biggest problem with ppl is that some think they need meaning to live. Tell me what meanings do mosquitos need? Does that mean they should be exterminated? Nah they seek pleasure in drinking juicy blood so they live to do just that. Same is for humans. There's honestly no need for anyone to be alive but since we all already have taken birth, isn't it good to feel joy? Joy that u get playing COD with ur frnds? Joy that u get eating ice cream in summer afternoons? Bro don't think so much. It's unnecessary. Do what makes u happy as long as u don't harm anyone(no not drugs becuz that will eventually make feel not so good).
This particular scene almost had me in tears. Thank goodness Grimmer and Tenma found him, poor Milos looked absolutely broken :'( Grimmer's talk at the end was heartbreaking. Johan you piece of shit!
Tbh I love Johan because of this... He didn't bring fear in that kid.. he made him feel hopeless lonely and make himself commit sucide... Thank god people like him don't exist in this world
Johan showed the boy darkness. Grimmer, being a man that is wallowed in darkness himself, was able to show the boy light. I havent finished monster yet but I love grimmer
Kind of obvious to point out but Milos stepping on the butterfly at the end really further shows how he now views the world. This innocent kid who like most kids prior to this experience would be happy, laughing, and excited to see that butterfly but now Milos is a changed kid and now hates this world and sees how dark and disgusting he can be. Thus he stomps on the butterfly mercilessly, not to say kids wouldn't do that anyways but in Milo's case he wouldn't have. That innocence he had of the world is gone and he hates it. It's heartbreaking, especially cause these things happen to kids in the real world. Incredibly sad.
I just finished watching the show and Grimmer seeing Milos killing this butterfly unlocked his emotions and he started to cry. He must have subconsciously remember his friend, Adolf Reinhardt from 511 Kinderheim, who wanted to become an entomologist and would never kill the butterflies he caught. This could have brought him back memories from when Grimmer was younger and brought him back to a state of mind where he still had emotions, that's why I think he started to cry here.
Okay, I've been thinking if this scene really makes sense, and I think it does: the kid is in doubts of whether his mother wants him or not. Yohan tells him that his mother is in that place, but if she doesn't call out, then of course, it means she doesn't want him. So by going somewhere with screwed up things he's never seen before, topping it off with the realization his mother abandoned him, of course would probably drive him to suicide. But yes, this scene either way, is fucked up.
i dont think suicide tbh. it would scar him but it takes way worse to commit suicide And i doubt hed do it instantly either. Most suicides happen over time not instantly. Imagine having a perfectly normal life then... something bad happens..like really bad. you might A) feel sad n move on or B) Feel sad and then after some time commit suicide if you even know how to. Its much harder to do it then you think. if it was easy wed have way more bodies especially of teens. in fact id rather the kid be replaced with a teen cuz that actually makes way more sense. "oh hey this random stranger said my mom hates me better trust em instantly and follow their guide. If the kid is that stupid then his parents arent doing that good of a job of teaching him anything.
@@johnynoway9127 did you watch the show?? "If the kid is that stupid then his parents arent doing that good of a job of teaching him anything" brother, he's a fucking orphan. He DIDN'T have any parents to teach him anything. He's been shifted from place to place, never had any long-term parental figure, and the one thing that has been on his mind is finding his mother. He didn't have a perfectly normal life. Very far from it. He most likely had a pretty rough, lonely life even before this entire incident happened. Considering how he talks in the story, hopes of his mother was the big thing holding him and keeping some happiness inside of him, like OP said.
The thing is what happens after you discover no one loves you is that you embark on a splendid world. There's nothing to be ashamed or depressed about really.
That's called a inner freedom you can not be judged you can't be controlled you don't initiate with the term "Love" you become yourself your become dependent without caring for anybody
Okay, fuck Johan. I want to talk about Grimmer. I just finished watching the series for the first time and this moment cemented what I love so much about his character. For someone who went through 511 Kinderheim like Johan, he's almost nothing like him. He's emotionally suppressed, but he knows what's right and wrong. He's trying to heal. He mourns for what he lost, even if he doesn't realize it. I think it was this moment where he started to actually get in touch with the emotions that were ripped away from him all those years ago. Despite whatever he may think about himself, he is an empathetic man.
He's very young and had already met 'those' different kinds of people, also the way they treated him really scarred him. I love how Grimmer made him understand that he was wanted by someone and there's a reason why he was born.
the way he psychologically brainwashed him and sets him up for the harsh reality of this world.. pure genius! so manipulative hits right in the feels lol
This scene definitely mirrors what Johan mind experienced with the real monster finale , it’s the ultimate Bonaberrta experiment & summed up by his question to Dr.Tenma “ did mother chose me to save me or mistaken me for my sister... which is which “ This doubt metastasis into his pSyche like cancer till it becomes a living entity of it’s own ( the nameless monster with in him ) coupled with his acquired philosophy of nothing else matters lives are only equal at death (( he’s the embodiment of nihilism )) it’s realistic as hell I assure you because he’s been their in that boy shoes so he knows what buttons to push
I haven't watched the anime, but completed the manga. This was definitely one of the darkest points of the story. Monster is truly a masterpiece. Damn you Urasawa Naoki, always giving me good ol' existential crisis.
Poor Milos. But this is what’s amazing about Monster, this story isn’t afraid to show how evil the world can be at any ages. Like, this scene right here isn’t gore but still it’s horrible for a minor to witness.
@Useless no, more than waking up, all the ideas of the monster inside Johan came from him, Johan wanted people to experience what Bonnaparta had done to him.
Never completed the series because it was a bit heavy on my younger soul, but this scene finally sparked me to start with Ep. 1 again. Here we go, down the rabbit hole...
Well what a coincidence, I just finished binging the entire series after putting it on hold for years. Let me tell you right now, you're not gonna be ready for this shit, It's gonna be wild.
The only anime that has ever made my eyes tear up and even cry. Ive watched so many sad anime popular anime with sad moments any you can think of ive most likely watched it but i never cried at it or have it in my mind for more then a day. But this was different
The things happened to the boy it happened to me too I mean the feeling it’s like the world doesn’t give damn about me so I will do stuff I shouldn’t be doing because of tremendous sadness affect the brain but thank God anime is live saver it changed me
I always wondered why Johan is like this. He almost seemed sad watching the kid run off and yet brought him to the one place that would fuck with him the most. While also telling the absolute truth. He isn't lying to the kid. Never told him his mom was there. And who knows he may have even waited for the kid.
@@jamile363 I'm saddened when we all watch such beautiful anime and still act like a bunch of chumps to each other. Calm down, there's no need for name calling.
@@damnthatsrough970 lol he got quiet. i always say, if your going to antagonize people at-least get the facts right. Calling someone an idiot followed by a mistake is hilarious though.
Hope is powerful thing. But there is a thin line between hope and desire, between imagination and delusion. Being grateful is the life line when reality shatter your "hope" and "imagination", so you don't fall into the abyss, the abyss of hopelessness. Just because reality stumbles you and you lose your way and purpose, doesn't mean you lost forever.
It seems even Johan likes to have some recreation time. Some people paint, others watch videos. Our resident Monster relaxes from his grand plans by driving randoms kids insane.
As much as meaningful values and beliefs can be destroyed and detached; reduced in worth, values can be generated and created as well. This scene shows both are possible for us, we can do both.
The kid, like Johan and that teacher and everyone else there, would eventually become a apathetic or delighted person corrupted by darkness and perpetuating it all. But this depiction of darkness is necessary to show how bright the light, that is, Grimmer and Tenma, can be. Milosh almost fell into the darkness but Tenma and Grimmer prove that it’s not always too late
Its very profound how its wasn't Milos who cried but Grimmer, but not only that, Milos extended his arms to confort Grimmer, you could say that by showing his emotions, Grimmer saves Milos's humanity.
Idk if it's the same for anyone but this shot is probably my favorite one of the entire series 0:47. It kinda describes Johan. It's him, silently standing in the wind with his disguise. He's an angel from the outside but the devil in the inside. He's looking at Milos go, he's not proud of his manipulation, but he's more done about it. He feels like it had to be done for him. And he knows what will happen to Milos. This right here too 7:42. They can handle horror and emotion omg
This lives in my head rent free. Holy sht what a masterpiece. The pure evilness of Johan makes light seem like a loli hentai protagonist. Johan, what a man you are. Bari bari gusha gusha baki baki, gokun.
When that teacher told Milos to stay and watch, it was almost like he was talking to me just as he was talking to Milos. I almost couldn’t bear it. It was by far the most brutal and ruthless scene in any anime I’ve ever watched solely because the message it conveyed.
Not all good animetion is just action, Just look from 5:38 forward and u will realize its top tier espically when he gets closer, damn thats a masterpiece
Johann is simply absolute evil , just started this show a few weeks ago and just got to this episode but man i haven’t come across a villain quite as sick and dark as him 🤯
From all the things he did, this was the most cruel and despicable. I'm a teacher and what I hate the most id adults being cruel or "teaching bad things" to kids. The whole volume in the mangá made want to vomite.
Everyone gangsta until manipulator crossdresser gives a child existential crisis
delet this
Snap son:)
Aaaaaa
Well shit
I may be laughing at this joke but I'm afraid. This one scene is so traumatic. I really hate johan like fr....
What a merciless way to show a kid how hideous the world is.
+The Wandering Boxer that was not the "whole world" representation..Only in its darkest side..A place filled with despair and sickness
that's how the world really s though. the "light" side is a facade.
there is progress and evolution.Science and art..also human is a social being.when working in a team he can unleash his best potential.Thats the light side
RayVitoles And a lot of times that potential has been used with ominous intentions, which is where the popular saying: "Ends justify the means" came from.
Light can be corrupted.
RayVitoles progress and evolution are delusions of the mind that's desperate to escape reality by constructing a false one destined to collapse. Science and art are nothing more than distractions from insufferable reality. Teamwork is a charade that is fated to break down as team members inevitably try to destroy each other. Advancement is temporal, turmoil is eternal.
I think this scene showcases how fantastic Monster handles horror. There's no blood gargling creatures, nobody is being tortured or killed in extravagant fashion. It's just humans being evil that scares us the most.
Yea that what I loves about urasawa works. Usually in "adult" seinen anime/manga, you will see a lots of blood and gore shit for the sake of meaningless shock value but he never tries to do that. He only expressed it through storytelling.
Its reality
I don't get it. He made the kid pass through a red-light district after saying some edgy stuff. Big deal. Kids around the world go through similar or worse things so what makes this scene so special? Thank you. After seeing that you're essentially gushing from a lazy scene like this convinced me that Monster is an over-rated show that's not worth my time.
@@JsJdv At least you were honest in the fact that you didn’t get it.
@@Olegnas705 I see. You're the type of person who pumps up their ego by finding meaning in poorly written scenarios and reveling in the fact that other people didn't find it as deep as you did. There are less embarrassing ways to shape existential insight than consume media aimed at edgy 14yos while singing praises of how profound and realistic it is. What this is is selling nihilism as reality. There's nothing realistic or scary about it, besides the fact that some people are dumb enough to take it seriously. No offense.
Monster is one of those rare stories that pits pure evil and pure good against each other and have it be complex and layered. This scene showcases that perfectly.
but who's to say what is good and what is evil?
@Squee505 Shut up instead of trying to seem deep and clever.
It is reknown that Johan is the embodiment of evil, evil is humanity and society, Johan is the fruit out of it.
Good? There is no good. None is the embodiment of good, but some people like Tenma cannot be described as really bad
@@agarrikr2996 I will even say there IS good, it's not because we can not be perfect that goodness doesn't exist.
The absolute good is actually not absolute, it exists as an imperfect form but it's still here, as a will, as a try, as courageous action, a selfless decision, a purely generous ambition filled with the love and admiration we have for others and the world. It's not perfect because it can not be, but Tenma does have a fundamentally good "nature".
@@agarrikr2996 lmao, right like what?? also the tone of his message read like he was personally offended or something?
Their dynamic is engaging and interesting but Johan is overall is a static character
He deadass gave a child existential crisis by asking a few questions and showing him the true and ugly side of humanity. He's a Monster alright.
Only Partly true.. There is another true part as well.
No god but Allah
Islam way for peace and real monotheist
Search about the truth with honest heart
And first ask Allah to help you to find the way .,
All this makes me think of is that, this is exactly what Johan saw and went through, around the same age. Except probably much worse, and much longer.
+Rina Farrell he was like that from birth ...a real monster......the entity known as
monster travels all around the world ....its a shadow on the wall....it
just happened to be around Johan ....it moved to him when his mother
abandoned Nina.....Johan didnt think that his mother did it out of
compassion but that she mistook him for his sister when it was clearly
not so...thats when the monster went into Johan
Yes Johan's way of being a killer is very long and extremely painful, i do believe i starts very long ago when he was very little, then he gets as fucked as possible after his mother's choice, then waits for someone alone while reading the nameless monster, then Nina comes back and tells him about his experiments, after their mother tells them to survive by themselves, then Johan starts crying and ithat's the moment he became like that, he burns the place with his sister and starts his murders, then he and Nina see the ''scenery for a doomsday'' while starving alone, this is the creation of his nihilistic perspective, then they faint with the intent of dying, General Wolf saves him and Johan probably didn't like that because he wanted to die after the creation of his nihilistic perspective, then he is sent to Kinderheim and fucked up more and more with those experiments, it doesn't matter if he was beyond their programs when he came there they still experimented on him, he later starts the massacre as a ''true monster.Later he is adopted alongside Nina and he kills the Lieberts after sensing Franz Bonaparta, the ''monster'' in Johan's eyes.Then he wants to die and asks Nina to shoot him, after he is saved by Tenma, he is grateful for Tenma and sympathizes him, but he wants to prove Tenma that his perspective is the right.
光 I’m pretty sure that in this video that is Johan disguising as Nina.
@光 that's sweet
@光that is johan disguised
I know its been a long time since this video was posted it, but I would like to notice that the reason why Grimmer cries is because he see himself in Milos, and everything he says to him, he is saying it to himself. The way he says "You were born for a reason. Somebody loved you" is like he is talking to himself. And it's beautiful.
I liked that he was doing that, yet it actually reached the kid and it worked.
I think it's also his feelings for his son he lost coming out a little toward Milos as well.
Well may be but according to me , he was telling those things for son in his heart which poured out for milos.
Traumas like these are hard to fix. What a devil, with a face of an angel.
@The Third Child facts a child isn't ready to know yet
Nobody talks about Johan's voice acting skills, like holyshit, he did a woman voice with that voice he has??
I was wondering that while watching this (and in the dub version too). Was it really the voice-actor for Johan who voiced him throughout the time he was pretending to be his sister? Or was it the voice-actor for Anna/Nina?
ASB It was nina voice actress that was voicing Johan during the cross dressing scenes. In both dub and sub.
crzyboy190 Thanks for clarifying that. I checked the Spanish version on UA-cam and in that version it sounded like a male voice actor doing Johan's impersonation of Nina, which was also quite effective.
@光 no, its Johan disguising as Nina. watch it again
Dressed up as woman is one thing but successfully sounds likes a woman when you're a damn man is too weird.
Never truly understood how monstrous Johan really was until I reached this episode. It's not about killing a person. It's not about manipulating someone against his will.
It's about sending a young boy to the darkest corner of humanity and allowing his pure white and innocent state of mind to be tarnished black, thus potentially killing him from the inside out.
What's so good with this episode (as well as the one with kids jumping off rooftops) is that both sadism and mercy can be motivations for Johan's actions and they're both equally monstruous.
On the one hand, it could be pure, absolute sadism. Creating thoughts in those kids that would utterly destroy their core just to end innocent lives in the cruelest way possible.
On the other hand, it could be that Johan is simply showing them his truth. To him, only death makes us equal. Make Milos realise that his existence is meaningless, a mistake nobody cares about, and offer him the epiphany of death after the revelation. For the other kids, show them what existence is about: defying death until it occurs. It's still absolute sadism, but it's the nature of Johan's view of life.
He drags you to hell with him, a place where only he is at peace.
Yes , even I didn't realise how cruel Johan was until I reached this 49th episode. To be honest, I was worn apart while watching it. Just imagine how he might have thought? Seeing those things he might've thought that's how his mother was also treated and that's why abandoned him. That clg professor was also MONSTER according to me. Even thou Mr.Grimmer didn't know how to express his emotions. His words came out from his heart with healed Milos on the spot a bit. Of course he can't overcome quickly from that trauma but his friends and the people surrounding him are really good and charming. I don't think Johan saw this anol when he was his age. He was sent to that 511 kinderheim. Like forcexjr said He killed that kids innocent mind this just blew my mind too.
thats what Franz Bonaparta do to him, he want others feels what he feel
White, Black …🙄
johan's existence relies on having pure souls like tenma and milos to understand his darkness and be swallowed by it like he was
johan didn't filled this kid's mind with terror it was doubt, hopelesness and despair.
Completely agree. When there is terror one still has a deep care for life but the caring is fear based. In this case the child went into a state of total apathy and lacked any reason to live any longer.
Yeah... Fear is something that can be overcome... But despair, hopelessness and the feeling of emptiness... Even for me... I've though many times as to why I was born... Isn't it easier to die... But I dunno the answer that is what keeps me going... Even if it's for another day... I would want to eat that delicious meal, want to watch that awesome show...
@@amara2886 you good fam?
@@amara2886 well you're catching on and that'll have to do.
@@amara2886 biggest problem with ppl is that some think they need meaning to live. Tell me what meanings do mosquitos need? Does that mean they should be exterminated? Nah they seek pleasure in drinking juicy blood so they live to do just that. Same is for humans. There's honestly no need for anyone to be alive but since we all already have taken birth, isn't it good to feel joy? Joy that u get playing COD with ur frnds? Joy that u get eating ice cream in summer afternoons? Bro don't think so much. It's unnecessary. Do what makes u happy as long as u don't harm anyone(no not drugs becuz that will eventually make feel not so good).
Monster always "hits" right in the feelings...
johan liebert fans see this
ua-cam.com/video/7tNBh3hwU7A/v-deo.html
This particular scene almost had me in tears. Thank goodness Grimmer and Tenma found him, poor Milos looked absolutely broken :'(
Grimmer's talk at the end was heartbreaking.
Johan you piece of shit!
Johan is my fav character but I understand why you hate him
Tbh I love Johan because of this... He didn't bring fear in that kid.. he made him feel hopeless lonely and make himself commit sucide... Thank god people like him don't exist in this world
@@tronalddump6768 you love someone whom you're glad doesn't exist? lol
(and, there are way worst people than johan who exist in this world)
@@ishallneverdie2445 I love Johan as a charecter.. not as a person
The most uncomfortable episode in the entire anime imo
Wow glad to see new comments around this anime deserves some more attention maybe a remake would have been good
@@theperfectsoldier7113 i wish, this is so underrated anime
For me it was definitely the nailclipping episode.
I agree. It's extremely disturbing.
@@akoskovacs6830 do you remember what ep it was or roughly where in the series it was ?
Johan showed the boy darkness. Grimmer, being a man that is wallowed in darkness himself, was able to show the boy light. I havent finished monster yet but I love grimmer
Did you finish it?
@@trollface1348 i actually never did I had like 10 episodes left thank you for reminding me
@@nitrogenax2327 You're done now ? If so...
sorry about Grimmer 😭
aw man... I hope you've finished the story lol. That statement about grimmer :(
And then milos grew up became a stripper Known as ricardo milos
LMAO
OOF
Nice one
Thus, a legend was made
It took me a while before I understand the joke
The moment Grimmer cries, one of the most beautiful scenes in anime!
top 10 beautiful anime scenes on my channel btw.
Yeah that was one of the most fucked up things Johan ever did!
He didn’t have emotions but he understood pain. That’s was enough
Kind of obvious to point out but Milos stepping on the butterfly at the end really further shows how he now views the world. This innocent kid who like most kids prior to this experience would be happy, laughing, and excited to see that butterfly but now Milos is a changed kid and now hates this world and sees how dark and disgusting he can be. Thus he stomps on the butterfly mercilessly, not to say kids wouldn't do that anyways but in Milo's case he wouldn't have. That innocence he had of the world is gone and he hates it. It's heartbreaking, especially cause these things happen to kids in the real world. Incredibly sad.
I just finished watching the show and Grimmer seeing Milos killing this butterfly unlocked his emotions and he started to cry. He must have subconsciously remember his friend, Adolf Reinhardt from 511 Kinderheim, who wanted to become an entomologist and would never kill the butterflies he caught. This could have brought him back memories from when Grimmer was younger and brought him back to a state of mind where he still had emotions, that's why I think he started to cry here.
@@XelErdna well said
Okay, I've been thinking if this scene really makes sense, and I think it does: the kid is in doubts of whether his mother wants him or not. Yohan tells him that his mother is in that place, but if she doesn't call out, then of course, it means she doesn't want him. So by going somewhere with screwed up things he's never seen before, topping it off with the realization his mother abandoned him, of course would probably drive him to suicide.
But yes, this scene either way, is fucked up.
i dont think suicide tbh.
it would scar him but it takes way worse to commit suicide
And i doubt hed do it instantly either.
Most suicides happen over time not instantly.
Imagine having a perfectly normal life
then...
something bad happens..like really bad.
you might
A) feel sad n move on
or
B) Feel sad and then after some time commit suicide if you even know how to.
Its much harder to do it then you think.
if it was easy wed have way more bodies especially of teens.
in fact id rather the kid be replaced with a teen cuz that actually makes way more sense.
"oh hey this random stranger said my mom hates me better trust em instantly and follow their guide.
If the kid is that stupid then his parents arent doing that good of a job of teaching him anything.
@@johnynoway9127 I agree , finally someone who shares the same sentiment. The kid should be replaced with a teen
@@johnynoway9127 did you watch the show??
"If the kid is that stupid then his parents arent doing that good of a job of teaching him anything" brother, he's a fucking orphan. He DIDN'T have any parents to teach him anything. He's been shifted from place to place, never had any long-term parental figure, and the one thing that has been on his mind is finding his mother.
He didn't have a perfectly normal life. Very far from it. He most likely had a pretty rough, lonely life even before this entire incident happened. Considering how he talks in the story, hopes of his mother was the big thing holding him and keeping some happiness inside of him, like OP said.
Poor kid.
exactly what I was looking for, thank you! grimmer getting the kid away from the bridge is one of my favorite scenes from the show
Agreed, and it proved Johan wrong. Someone did want him.
when milos stretched his sweater,i felt that
We all felt that
Downright the best scene for me in any anime I've watched. This is honestly terrifying. I don't have words to describe this...
When u see this u realize why johan is called a monster
Yes I agree , I hated his so much
The thing is what happens after you discover no one loves you is that you embark on a splendid world. There's nothing to be ashamed or depressed about really.
Interesting. Why is that?
You have nothing to lose, that’s why...
@@umihana3318 True Freedom
That's called a inner freedom you can not be judged you can't be controlled you don't initiate with the term "Love" you become yourself your become dependent without caring for anybody
Okay, fuck Johan. I want to talk about Grimmer.
I just finished watching the series for the first time and this moment cemented what I love so much about his character. For someone who went through 511 Kinderheim like Johan, he's almost nothing like him. He's emotionally suppressed, but he knows what's right and wrong. He's trying to heal. He mourns for what he lost, even if he doesn't realize it. I think it was this moment where he started to actually get in touch with the emotions that were ripped away from him all those years ago. Despite whatever he may think about himself, he is an empathetic man.
When mr grimmer hugged that boy so tight I shed a tear
He's very young and had already met 'those' different kinds of people, also the way they treated him really scarred him. I love how Grimmer made him understand that he was wanted by someone and there's a reason why he was born.
the way he psychologically brainwashed him and sets him up for the harsh reality of this world.. pure genius! so manipulative hits right in the feels lol
Thank you so much for uploading all these clips!
Nastia179 I am glad :)
@@arwint.5630 Thank you. You uploaded the best clips from entire anime:)
confirmed for best waifu
7:48 there's still hope
I'm finishing to watch, perfect anime ...
The crying man saw himself in the boy and he cried for both of them, both unwanted people, unloved by the world. People just want to be loved.
This scene definitely mirrors what Johan mind experienced with the real monster finale , it’s the ultimate Bonaberrta experiment & summed up by his question to Dr.Tenma “ did mother chose me to save me or mistaken me for my sister... which is which “ This doubt metastasis into his pSyche like cancer till it becomes a living entity of it’s own ( the nameless monster with in him ) coupled with his acquired philosophy of nothing else matters lives are only equal at death (( he’s the embodiment of nihilism )) it’s realistic as hell I assure you because he’s been their in that boy shoes so he knows what buttons to push
I haven't watched the anime, but completed the manga. This was definitely one of the darkest points of the story. Monster is truly a masterpiece. Damn you Urasawa Naoki, always giving me good ol' existential crisis.
this scene traumatized me too hahaha
Poor Milos. But this is what’s amazing about Monster, this story isn’t afraid to show how evil the world can be at any ages. Like, this scene right here isn’t gore but still it’s horrible for a minor to witness.
This scene broke my heart
Johan created another version of himself in Milos. He carries on his evil. His Monster.
Bonaparte is the real monster.
@Useless no, more than waking up, all the ideas of the monster inside Johan came from him, Johan wanted people to experience what Bonnaparta had done to him.
Never completed the series because it was a bit heavy on my younger soul, but this scene finally sparked me to start with Ep. 1 again. Here we go, down the rabbit hole...
Well what a coincidence, I just finished binging the entire series after putting it on hold for years. Let me tell you right now, you're not gonna be ready for this shit, It's gonna be wild.
How was the show this time? You loved it?
ah grimmer. I love him really bad
Who doesn't
This was one of my favourite episodes because of how dark and raw it was.
The virgin Light Yagami vs The Chad Johan Liebert
Wolfgang grimmer, such a wonderful guy
I hated him so much when i watched this
@laith lee It's Johan ffs, Nina was with Dieter. Watch the damn anime
Matthieu Weeabo... no.. just not kids
Johann: no more hairy legs
This was just cruel.
The only anime that has ever made my eyes tear up and even cry. Ive watched so many sad anime popular anime with sad moments any you can think of ive most likely watched it but i never cried at it or have it in my mind for more then a day. But this was different
The things happened to the boy it happened to me too I mean the feeling it’s like the world doesn’t give damn about me so I will do stuff I shouldn’t be doing because of tremendous sadness affect the brain but thank God anime is live saver it changed me
He's even wearing his iconic tan blazer. XD Shameless!!
This is one of the most pure evil things I’ve seen any antagonist do.
How the hell Johann can simulate Nina’s voice?
I’m mean, if you thing that as a real thing happening, there’s no way a man simulate a girls voice like you this
People can do that in real life too...In Naruto, for example, it's a woman who dub his voice
Because it’s a fucking cartoon you dickhead, that’s why
they are twins, my little sister and her twin brother had same voice and face
Maybe because Johan has a more softer voice, which probably made it easier for him to imitate his sister’s.
this is one of the scariest episodes of any tv show ive ever seen. it was more terrifyingly disgusting than anything.
This moment made me cry
Man that kid has affected by most dangerous psychological trauma that he will never forget till end of his life he will end up becoming evil 😢
I always wondered why Johan is like this. He almost seemed sad watching the kid run off and yet brought him to the one place that would fuck with him the most. While also telling the absolute truth.
He isn't lying to the kid. Never told him his mom was there. And who knows he may have even waited for the kid.
Lmfao Johan is a great guy, i like him already.
@Squee505 thats johan pretending to be nina
Squee505 you do realize that this is johan pretending to be nina
Did you even watch the show
@光 it's johan pretending to be nina you dumbfuck
have you even watched the show? tf
@@jamile363 I'm saddened when we all watch such beautiful anime and still act like a bunch of chumps to each other. Calm down, there's no need for name calling.
@@damnthatsrough970 lol he got quiet. i always say, if your going to antagonize people at-least get the facts right. Calling someone an idiot followed by a mistake is hilarious though.
everyone's a gansta untill, Johan liebert tries manipulating someone😖😱😱😨
Who’s cutting onions here????
Johan Best antagonist ever.
nice little experiment....
Hope is powerful thing.
But there is a thin line between hope and desire, between imagination and delusion.
Being grateful is the life line when reality shatter your "hope" and "imagination", so you don't fall into the abyss, the abyss of hopelessness.
Just because reality stumbles you and you lose your way and purpose, doesn't mean you lost forever.
It seems even Johan likes to have some recreation time. Some people paint, others watch videos. Our resident Monster relaxes from his grand plans by driving randoms kids insane.
As much as meaningful values and beliefs can be destroyed and detached; reduced in worth, values can be generated and created as well. This scene shows both are possible for us, we can do both.
The kid, like Johan and that teacher and everyone else there, would eventually become a apathetic or delighted person corrupted by darkness and perpetuating it all. But this depiction of darkness is necessary to show how bright the light, that is, Grimmer and Tenma, can be. Milosh almost fell into the darkness but Tenma and Grimmer prove that it’s not always too late
The way this movie tell about childhood trauma is...
when he stepped at the moth. dat hit hard
Three words that can solve the world's problems:
"I want you"
Yearslater that kid became an Internet meme as a dancing masculine dude with Puerto Rica flag bandanna
This anime is awesome.
Its very profound how its wasn't Milos who cried but Grimmer, but not only that, Milos extended his arms to confort Grimmer, you could say that by showing his emotions, Grimmer saves Milos's humanity.
The cruelest thing you could do to a child.
Idk if it's the same for anyone but this shot is probably my favorite one of the entire series 0:47.
It kinda describes Johan. It's him, silently standing in the wind with his disguise. He's an angel from the outside but the devil in the inside.
He's looking at Milos go, he's not proud of his manipulation, but he's more done about it. He feels like it had to be done for him.
And he knows what will happen to Milos.
This right here too 7:42. They can handle horror and emotion omg
Holy shit dude really just gave a kid existential crisis
When I saw this I was so done with Johan
This lives in my head rent free.
Holy sht what a masterpiece. The pure evilness of Johan makes light seem like a loli hentai protagonist. Johan, what a man you are.
Bari bari gusha gusha baki baki, gokun.
Oddly specific lmao
GERIS!
Lmfao with that loli hentai prtag
When that teacher told Milos to stay and watch, it was almost like he was talking to me just as he was talking to Milos. I almost couldn’t bear it. It was by far the most brutal and ruthless scene in any anime I’ve ever watched solely because the message it conveyed.
This is very painful... 💔
Not all good animetion is just action,
Just look from 5:38 forward and u will realize its top tier espically when he gets closer, damn thats a masterpiece
This is one of the darkest episode in monster.
I need a grimmer in my life
😔
Yes i need Steiner
It's impossible to tell the difference between Johan and his sister
His sister is girl and he is boy
5:13 best emotional moment for grimmer
Man, I love Grimmer.
Johann is simply absolute evil , just started this show a few weeks ago and just got to this episode but man i haven’t come across a villain quite as sick and dark as him 🤯
I need more than holy water for this.
I need the goddamned holy grail.
when you remember the finale grimmer has also lost his child. thats why he is so sad 😥
Poor Jan, he fell for the trap
And thats the begining of another johan
Boy, we stan Grimmer in THIS house
It is true, all it takes is one bad day..
What bad day Johan is evil from his very core this guy is the devil personified
@@ghostofdeath7388 did u watch the anime?
@@ghostofdeath7388 he is quoting another nihilist famous villain
@@nfspbarrister5681 whats the name of that famous villain ?
@@zerotwo532 batman villain. The one who tried to prove a point and turned other to a villain too
This scene traumatized me when I was kid
Well this anime isn't for kids
The song is at the end of the video with the violin.
He was right. There's nothing in this world
I guess this is what happens to most teenagers these days
From all the things he did, this was the most cruel and despicable. I'm a teacher and what I hate the most id adults being cruel or "teaching bad things" to kids. The whole volume in the mangá made want to vomite.
God why do I put myself through this?