As someone who went into Portal 2 completely blind, as in never even playing the first Portal game or knowing what it was, I have to say it was super fun exploring this run down facility knowing absolutely nothing. I was able to gather from the drawings near the beginning a little about what happened, and it was really creepy when Wheatley was panicked about having to go through "Her" chamber, and wondering what I did to make glados so angry. Kind of felt like I was playing a character with amnesia, in a good way. The game holds up pretty well by itself and give enough context clues to understand what's going on without playing the first one. Since I played Portal 2 first, I feel like I've been primed to think it is the better of the two. When I played the first game I didn't experience the same surprises first time players experienced, as I essentially knew what was going on. I also didn't find either one particularly more challenging than the other, as far as I can remember. At the same time, I completely understand why people would say the first one is the best, but I'm wondering if that comes from them playing that one first? It's also interesting that you said you felt Portal 2 was a bit too long, as I felt Portal 1 felt a bit to short, but again this may be due to playing order. I kind of think they are on pretty equal footing when considering which one is the best (not that anyone can make a completely objective conclusion on this matter), and people picking a favorite simply comes down to personal preference and/or playing order. Honestly the portal games are two of the most solid video game experiences out there. also just want to say I love your videos and listening to your opinions on games. I find them super insightful and very entertaining. Keep up the good work!
2:55:50 if a puzzle has an element of timing to it then it’s possible. In ‘ghost trick: phantom detective’ you need to time travel to 4 minutes before a person’s death to save them (if you fail you just time travel 4 minutes again). Most deaths can only be stopped in the last few seconds before they happen, which are pretty frantic, and of course the music becomes more intense at those moments, leading to this result.
MasterProject yeah it is a strong contender for my favorite game of all time (the other contender being persona 4), and with how underplayed it is it is really hard to stop my self from trying to shill it at every opportunity...
The second game having a whole ecosystem of AI's is definitely more interesting, but the first game does such a great job to establish glados's presence. If the first game had all the additional AI's from the get go, it wouldn't have worked as well, IMO.
(four years late but) i mean, it is a sequel, and trying to just do portal 1 again would probably end up being way less effective, so i think it's an ok escalation for a sequel to make.
Well actually, believe it or not, the portal level of lego dimensions actually is a story sequel of portal 2 written and voiced by the original people. So if you want more portal godness i highly recommend you to watch the cutscenes on youtube or something.
So many loading screens are annoying and the pacing is not absolutely 100% perfect in the later sections(still like 95% or better), unlike the opening which is very similar to portal 1's 100% perfect pacing.
try playing "portal stories mel" it's a free fan made mod for portal 2, that is actually a full fledged portal game that took them 4 years to make and it's genuinely good.
1:54:04 The reaction-based chambers shown in the earlier trailers wouldn't have worked in a Portal game. Imagine having your puzzles be periodically interrupted by what are essentially quick-time events. I'm glad Valve scrapped them.
Praise be to Senapi. Not only did we get a Portal playthrough yesterday, but we have been graced by a playthrough of Portal 2 as well. Today is a good day my friends!!
5:05:32 both are happening at the same time, that's why half of a portal cannot move in the game. except that one time when valve cheated with the neurotoxin pipes cutting part. but if you think about it, if the relative position of the blue and orange halves stay the exact same then it's perfectly fine. so you could have a big cube with white walls and portals on it and it could be thrown around and it wouldnt break anything. you're also in a room that's on earth, moving through space, so the important thing is that the 2 halves dont shift relative to each other. so again valve cheats at the ending, you probably wouldnt be able to fire a portal on the moon it'd disappear
I watched a thousand Portal 2 multiplayer LPs back in the day, and not even once I saw the story mode, damn I am surprised it has this much lore and dialogue.
This game has a deep story if you think about it. You are always playing by the rules of the machines (with some sort of freedom of how to confront challenges) but at the end you are release to true freedom. Some can see this as hopeless and lonely thinking that it was better to stay with the machines so you can have company (as a child I thought this) but others may think that this is not the end and just the beginning since we were left in a wheat field likely to be created by human hand and if you think a little deeper about the last interaction with GLaDOS the act of removing Caroline seems to be a maneuver to force us to go find other humans and not trying to go back to what we now and what we are comfortable with.
I love that in the world, where seeing and understanding irony/sarcasm is as common as breathing, there is Joseph, who feels no constraints in enjoying and laughing at it.
Joe constantly talking about “remembering the solutions” is really weird to me. Trying to remember the solutions to a puzzle game you played like 8 years ago, is that something most people are able to do?
Pyynö i still remember the floor layout for the first two areas in metal gear solid lol sometimes memorable moments just get etched into ur memory. Same thing for the first level of the first Mario bros and the first level for super Mario world. I’m dumb as shit btw lol
Just barely replayed the game today (before watching this for his reactions) and I definitely remembered some of the gel puzzles pretty well. I was suprised.
Time definitely matters but revisiting portal 1 for me about 2 years later was way easier than my first time. Although 8 sounds like it would definitely be more fuzzy to remember, it varies
Is it just me, or all 3d puzzles seems like you're spending all the time just looking around figuring out what's going while placing portals in obvious spots white, grabing boxes, spliting liquids, ets, on and then realizing that the "puzzle" is almost solved?
You should give Portal Stories Mel a playthrough! It's free, VERY challenging, and in GREAT quality! It won the award for Best Community Game of the year!
I think i had a closer connect with portal 1 and that's why the song just hit differently back then. I expected a song at the end of portal 2 which might have made it less of a wow moment.
oz car he laughed his ass off in a lot of persona scenes too. The “does that mean you got a phone” scene, the “I think I cracked my ass” scene, a lot of yusuke shenanigans
Max Howlett sure, or because a character mentioned eating something and (because of chat) his mind was in the gutter the entire playthrough. Doesn’t take away the numerous times he genuinely laughed at the jokes the game pulled. While we’re on the subject, in the danganronpa LP, he frequently laughed his ass off from yasuhiro’s shenanigans
The whole question of which character is the best character honestly comes down to GLaDOS and Wheatley. Cave doesn't get nearly enough screen-time or development. His entire character is basically just "haha I'm funny guy who runs a dysfunctional research facility," and I'm too uncomfortable with the "Now she'll argue. She'll say she can't. She's modest like that. But you make her" line to see him as entirely endearing. There's something else going on with his personality that we just don't get to see. As for GLaDOS and Wheatley, they go through the same character arc but reversed; she starts out as evil but is eventually humbled to the point of having actual morals, while he starts out as good but is eventually corrupted by absolute power. I don't think we can entirely blame Wheatley, since the ending kind of implies that psychopathy comes with the programming of being the central AI (not to mention that he's expressly programmed to be a fuck up), but then GLaDOS remains somewhat compassionate when she regains control. One feels like a traitor that only becomes remotely likable again after he's done tons of unforgivable shit, the other feels like a villain that genuinely became a good person or at least a sort of anti-hero. Put simply, the game is just written in such a way that GLaDOS > Wheatley > Cave is the natural conclusion. You have to go out of your way with headcanon and fanfiction to properly enjoy the latter two, and as much as I love Wheatley by the end of Blue Sky, that story simply isn't canon. He doesn't get any redemption in-game.
Oh, one of the best games with the best streamer. Good combination. I don't know if Joe answering questions here but I'm curious - had you play The Talos Principle? (Edit: ok, he answers this in the video)
5:07:20 This entire Portal debate is really stupid. Because the Earth actually spins. So if a moving portal would propel you with force then a stationary would too because everything is technically moving anyway depending on the reference frame.
you basically answered your own question every two portals you had to place in this game are relatively stationary, no matter the point of reference, they are bound to the same earth's coordinate system, it's spin does not make difference
I think GLaDOS lays it on thick with the insults because I feel like the game deliberately wanted to make a contrast to the first game, where she was completely clinical and robotic because she was confident that she was in control. Now after killing her and sending the entire facility into ruin, with nothing left, she's dropped all professionalism and she's just pissed. It makes sense that she sounds a lot more human in this game too. When she opens with "Oh, it's *you*", it's said in such a sinister way that the robotic voice can't cover up. This game has some of the best writing in any media and it's crazy how they made the characters have so much personality, despite only two characters appearing on screen, and three that actually speak in total.
i think it says "dear mr joseph, i've been deep undercover on you for the last 6 months and we've figured out that you have lied to us and you have on your side - sorry - and that you only side with your streaming job sell over 11,000 pounds of honey to the japanese every month, what have you to say regarding this?" still doesn't make sense, maybe joe read it wrong, but i think its a 11037 joke
Hey, wouldn't it be good to continue with Portal Stories: Mel? It has some advanced puzzles which really make you think (not like main puzzles in the game)
Joe, do you know Portal Stories: Mel? It's a very well made mod, for free on steam, that takes place between Portal 1 and 2. The puzzles are GREAT. I think you would love it!
unfortunately this game is extremely "artificial", so that the casual player base would also consume it and leave good reviews. "where should I put this portal? huh, i will try the SINGLE white square on screen. that might be it"
Imagine laughing out loud at portal 2 in 2011... Then imagine laughing out loud at Portal 2 in 2019. Stop laughing Joe! Where are the reviews Joe! Nobody needs another lame-ass streamer; your value is in analysis. WHERE ARE THE REVIEWS JOE!
The joke at the end is that Wheatley is so dense that he has his own gravitational pull.
Hence the space core orbiting him.
As someone who went into Portal 2 completely blind, as in never even playing the first Portal game or knowing what it was, I have to say it was super fun exploring this run down facility knowing absolutely nothing. I was able to gather from the drawings near the beginning a little about what happened, and it was really creepy when Wheatley was panicked about having to go through "Her" chamber, and wondering what I did to make glados so angry. Kind of felt like I was playing a character with amnesia, in a good way. The game holds up pretty well by itself and give enough context clues to understand what's going on without playing the first one. Since I played Portal 2 first, I feel like I've been primed to think it is the better of the two. When I played the first game I didn't experience the same surprises first time players experienced, as I essentially knew what was going on. I also didn't find either one particularly more challenging than the other, as far as I can remember. At the same time, I completely understand why people would say the first one is the best, but I'm wondering if that comes from them playing that one first? It's also interesting that you said you felt Portal 2 was a bit too long, as I felt Portal 1 felt a bit to short, but again this may be due to playing order. I kind of think they are on pretty equal footing when considering which one is the best (not that anyone can make a completely objective conclusion on this matter), and people picking a favorite simply comes down to personal preference and/or playing order. Honestly the portal games are two of the most solid video game experiences out there.
also just want to say I love your videos and listening to your opinions on games. I find them super insightful and very entertaining. Keep up the good work!
theres no reason to not play portal 1 first
5:10 is when the gameplay starts
1:40:18 Second Stream Starts
Thank you both
3:59:00 after intermission
4:50:00 - the part where he kills Joe.
Thank you, sir!
Who's Joe?
@@mongol1635 Joe-seph Anderson
@@mongol1635 joe fell for it fool thunder cross split attack
@@mongol1635 joe mama
Glados: You're a Moron designed to make me an idiot! You are useless.
Wheatley: Useless?!
2:55:50 if a puzzle has an element of timing to it then it’s possible.
In ‘ghost trick: phantom detective’ you need to time travel to 4 minutes before a person’s death to save them (if you fail you just time travel 4 minutes again). Most deaths can only be stopped in the last few seconds before they happen, which are pretty frantic, and of course the music becomes more intense at those moments, leading to this result.
Ghost Trick is so good! I'm glad you brought it up.
MasterProject yeah it is a strong contender for my favorite game of all time (the other contender being persona 4), and with how underplayed it is it is really hard to stop my self from trying to shill it at every opportunity...
foreshadowing
The second game having a whole ecosystem of AI's is definitely more interesting, but the first game does such a great job to establish glados's presence. If the first game had all the additional AI's from the get go, it wouldn't have worked as well, IMO.
(four years late but) i mean, it is a sequel, and trying to just do portal 1 again would probably end up being way less effective, so i think it's an ok escalation for a sequel to make.
Well actually, believe it or not, the portal level of lego dimensions actually is a story sequel of portal 2 written and voiced by the original people. So if you want more portal godness i highly recommend you to watch the cutscenes on youtube or something.
youwhatnow? Link please?
@@Betrix5060 it even have a song like still alive and want you gone at the end :
ua-cam.com/video/KbWfGIjZG50/v-deo.html
It's pretty disappointing, honestly.
portal 2 is one of the few games that i consider actually perfect. There is literally nothing bad I can say about it personally
also valve is god tier at video game openings
Yeah, I feel the same. There is probably something wrong with the game, but I can't see it
I felt the exact same way about Half Life: Alyx so maybe Valve just has a way with doing this sort of thing.
Most of the gel levels were kinda boring (white gel especially)
So many loading screens are annoying and the pacing is not absolutely 100% perfect in the later sections(still like 95% or better), unlike the opening which is very similar to portal 1's 100% perfect pacing.
try playing "portal stories mel" it's a free fan made mod for portal 2, that is actually a full fledged portal game that took them 4 years to make and it's genuinely good.
Also, Portal Prelude
Also aperture tag and thinking with time machine. (Ap tag is exponentially better)
okay team fortress guy ; ]
think I've heard about that
didn't they get hired by valve afterwards
3:44:13 Joe laughs at a sub for having arguable intelligence.
proceeds to laugh at the word "came"
1:54:04 The reaction-based chambers shown in the earlier trailers wouldn't have worked in a Portal game. Imagine having your puzzles be periodically interrupted by what are essentially quick-time events. I'm glad Valve scrapped them.
Oh my gooood I love glados in this game. She’s so snarky and it’s great
Praise be to Senapi. Not only did we get a Portal playthrough yesterday, but we have been graced by a playthrough of Portal 2 as well. Today is a good day my friends!!
"I _am_ capable of using all of my fingers"
Good to know. Good to know.
5:05:32 both are happening at the same time, that's why half of a portal cannot move in the game. except that one time when valve cheated with the neurotoxin pipes cutting part. but if you think about it, if the relative position of the blue and orange halves stay the exact same then it's perfectly fine. so you could have a big cube with white walls and portals on it and it could be thrown around and it wouldnt break anything. you're also in a room that's on earth, moving through space, so the important thing is that the 2 halves dont shift relative to each other. so again valve cheats at the ending, you probably wouldnt be able to fire a portal on the moon it'd disappear
5:05:00 - Joe discovering that treadmills exist.
04:50:05 The part where he kills you.
These Portal videos have been a very welcome surprise! Keep up the good work Joseph :)
I love the first set of tests so much. The deadpan text-to-speech voice is so funny to me, especially when describing the apocalypse 😂
Thanks dad for the youtube uploads
Oh I was really hoping you'd do this after watching the Portal 1 playthrough! Niice.
I've always loved Stephen Merchent. Now I love him even more.
I think the podcast he talks about (11:40, Ricky Gervais , Karl Pilkington, Stephen Merchant) is this one: ua-cam.com/video/pEcy1gAAeUE/v-deo.html
I watched a thousand Portal 2 multiplayer LPs back in the day, and not even once I saw the story mode, damn I am surprised it has this much lore and dialogue.
Throw Wya it is excessively good, one of the better games I’ve played imo
This game has a deep story if you think about it. You are always playing by the rules of the machines (with some sort of freedom of how to confront challenges) but at the end you are release to true freedom. Some can see this as hopeless and lonely thinking that it was better to stay with the machines so you can have company (as a child I thought this) but others may think that this is not the end and just the beginning since we were left in a wheat field likely to be created by human hand and if you think a little deeper about the last interaction with GLaDOS the act of removing Caroline seems to be a maneuver to force us to go find other humans and not trying to go back to what we now and what we are comfortable with.
3:45:05 I thought it was gonna be 11037
I love that in the world, where seeing and understanding irony/sarcasm is as common as breathing, there is Joseph, who feels no constraints in enjoying and laughing at it.
Joe constantly talking about “remembering the solutions” is really weird to me. Trying to remember the solutions to a puzzle game you played like 8 years ago, is that something most people are able to do?
If the game is iconic enough, like Portal, yes.
Joe is pretty smart tho
Pyynö i still remember the floor layout for the first two areas in metal gear solid lol sometimes memorable moments just get etched into ur memory. Same thing for the first level of the first Mario bros and the first level for super Mario world. I’m dumb as shit btw lol
Just barely replayed the game today (before watching this for his reactions) and I definitely remembered some of the gel puzzles pretty well. I was suprised.
Time definitely matters but revisiting portal 1 for me about 2 years later was way easier than my first time. Although 8 sounds like it would definitely be more fuzzy to remember, it varies
Is it just me, or all 3d puzzles seems like you're spending all the time just looking around figuring out what's going while placing portals in obvious spots white, grabing boxes, spliting liquids, ets, on and then realizing that the "puzzle" is almost solved?
they're glorified fetch tasks
Talking about Amnesia's Justine DLC while he's walking through the infamous iJustine chamber. Life is strange
3:14:04 sad flex but ok
Eyy I really looked forward to this after watching the Portal 1 vod yesterday! Po-ta-too 😄
Great work on the video! Because I have not seen the full video yet, please disregard any unnecessary compliments.
You should give Portal Stories Mel a playthrough! It's free, VERY challenging, and in GREAT quality!
It won the award for Best Community Game of the year!
Unpopular opinion: Want You Gone is the better song.
I personally think its a bit more emotional than Still Alive, especially as Glados (kinda) has feelings for Chell near the end..
Gdttd Eggegdh yeah that’s unpopular alright
I think i had a closer connect with portal 1 and that's why the song just hit differently back then. I expected a song at the end of portal 2 which might have made it less of a wow moment.
An emotional roller coaster I am glad to relive again.
This is the first time I’ve seen joe laugh at writing that was supposed to be funny
Undertale is at least one exception to that.
Stanley parable!
oz car he laughed his ass off in a lot of persona scenes too. The “does that mean you got a phone” scene, the “I think I cracked my ass” scene, a lot of yusuke shenanigans
@@tcoren1 Tbf he also laughed at some persona scenes because the delivery of lines was just awful like
Max Howlett sure, or because a character mentioned eating something and (because of chat) his mind was in the gutter the entire playthrough.
Doesn’t take away the numerous times he genuinely laughed at the jokes the game pulled.
While we’re on the subject, in the danganronpa LP, he frequently laughed his ass off from yasuhiro’s shenanigans
The whole question of which character is the best character honestly comes down to GLaDOS and Wheatley. Cave doesn't get nearly enough screen-time or development. His entire character is basically just "haha I'm funny guy who runs a dysfunctional research facility," and I'm too uncomfortable with the "Now she'll argue. She'll say she can't. She's modest like that. But you make her" line to see him as entirely endearing. There's something else going on with his personality that we just don't get to see.
As for GLaDOS and Wheatley, they go through the same character arc but reversed; she starts out as evil but is eventually humbled to the point of having actual morals, while he starts out as good but is eventually corrupted by absolute power. I don't think we can entirely blame Wheatley, since the ending kind of implies that psychopathy comes with the programming of being the central AI (not to mention that he's expressly programmed to be a fuck up), but then GLaDOS remains somewhat compassionate when she regains control. One feels like a traitor that only becomes remotely likable again after he's done tons of unforgivable shit, the other feels like a villain that genuinely became a good person or at least a sort of anti-hero.
Put simply, the game is just written in such a way that GLaDOS > Wheatley > Cave is the natural conclusion. You have to go out of your way with headcanon and fanfiction to properly enjoy the latter two, and as much as I love Wheatley by the end of Blue Sky, that story simply isn't canon. He doesn't get any redemption in-game.
Oh, one of the best games with the best streamer. Good combination.
I don't know if Joe answering questions here but I'm curious - had you play The Talos Principle? (Edit: ok, he answers this in the video)
I really hope Joe plays Talos Principle. It's one of my favorites, nearly rivaling Portal 2.
man only minutes into the stream no glados patatoe yet and already i am loving the humor
wheatly is best commedian in any game ever i am right or am i wrong?
@@owentayygaming7567 you are
Karl genuinely is that daft, I've met him before, he really is abit nuts haha
5:07:20 This entire Portal debate is really stupid. Because the Earth actually spins. So if a moving portal would propel you with force then a stationary would too because everything is technically moving anyway depending on the reference frame.
you basically answered your own question
every two portals you had to place in this game are relatively stationary, no matter the point of reference, they are bound to the same earth's coordinate system, it's spin does not make difference
I'll manual override the like button
I think GLaDOS lays it on thick with the insults because I feel like the game deliberately wanted to make a contrast to the first game, where she was completely clinical and robotic because she was confident that she was in control. Now after killing her and sending the entire facility into ruin, with nothing left, she's dropped all professionalism and she's just pissed. It makes sense that she sounds a lot more human in this game too. When she opens with "Oh, it's *you*", it's said in such a sinister way that the robotic voice can't cover up. This game has some of the best writing in any media and it's crazy how they made the characters have so much personality, despite only two characters appearing on screen, and three that actually speak in total.
Nutella is not a peanut butter!!!
2:10:33 I can’t decipher anything.
like 5 different voices talking concurrently
i think it says
"dear mr joseph, i've been deep undercover on you for the last 6 months and we've figured out that you have lied to us and you have on your side - sorry - and that you only side with your streaming job sell over 11,000 pounds of honey to the japanese every month, what have you to say regarding this?"
still doesn't make sense, maybe joe read it wrong, but i think its a 11037 joke
4:17:00 (Adopted bit timestamped for myself lmao)
Missed a secret at 3:09:11
as someone whos never finished this game, it feels like its different everytime i start it or watch someone play it from the start
Unrelated, but does anyone know what's the classical music track that plays after staring at the art?
Fenris I think it’s made by Valve and not an actual piece of classical music
My favorite game of all time! Second place is Outer Wilds and third is Subnautica
Great stream! Have you thought about playing the outer worlds?
IF WE GET PORTAL,3 I WANT MOVING PORTALS
Hey, wouldn't it be good to continue with Portal Stories: Mel?
It has some advanced puzzles which really make you think (not like main puzzles in the game)
Joe, do you know Portal Stories: Mel? It's a very well made mod, for free on steam, that takes place between Portal 1 and 2. The puzzles are GREAT. I think you would love it!
That's a bit of a spoiler bruh
@@TheGeladoo I knew that beforehand and it didn't stop me from enjoying it - actually it just made me more excited to play the game
there's a story mode too deckam don't forget that
Time stamp for me: 1:00:04
Half-Life
Half-Life: Opposing Force
Half-Life: Blue Shift
Half-Life: Source
Black Mesa
Portal
Portal 2
Half-Life 2
Half-Life 2: Episode One
Half-Life 2: Episode Two
Half-Life: Alyx
are you gonna do co-op papa joe?
Rip joe. Will probably play all of nier 1 to make a video on automata, only to be told off in the comments for not playing drakengard
He said "Games" plural so I'd assume Drakengard 1 and 3 are included there.
36:55
I played this game a while ago and never realized Stephen Merchant played Wheatley. Shame on me.
Thanks Nier fans.
you mean "those" nier fans not fans in genoral
Watching first person games on PC can be disorienting. Definitely the best way to play but the movements are so jarring when you're not in control
The unintentional Rick and Morty references are amazing. Injected with Praying Mantis DNA indeed
whos companion cube and why does it follow you thru the games?
Is this a blind playthrough? It looked like the portal 1 playthrough wasn't blind, so I didn't watch it, but with this one I can't quite tell.
2:45
He says in the stream that he played Portal 2 once, after launch. So he doesn't remember everything, since he played it such a long time ago.
me waiting for valve to finish the better trilogy with portal 3
Hey, at least portal 1 and 2 both got satisfactory endings. HL2:E2 ended on a massive "too be continued" cliffhanger!
I think Valve's best course of action would be to mix both games into one grand finale.
and advanced
unfortunately this game is extremely "artificial", so that the casual player base would also consume it and leave good reviews. "where should I put this portal? huh, i will try the SINGLE white square on screen. that might be it"
All you have to do is see the comments on the nier automata vods to see how fucking obnoxious the fans are.
420 likes on this video... nice
Imagine laughing out loud at portal 2 in 2011... Then imagine laughing out loud at Portal 2 in 2019.
Stop laughing Joe! Where are the reviews Joe! Nobody needs another lame-ass streamer; your value is in analysis. WHERE ARE THE REVIEWS JOE!
Wow I didnt think we were getting both