This is interesting. It is like learning the physics of beliefs found in Taoism, Zen, Cha'an and other belief systems that believe we are all manifestations of an absolute consciousness or essence.
My study of quantum physics, and my own hypothesis on the nature of reality agree with you completely. Dr. Goswami explained it perfectly in this video. I believe in what he calls "top-down causality", although I didn't have a name for it until now. I believe that consciousness is the only thing that does exist. Everything else is a figment of that consciousness. The universal consciousness is God, and we are all a part of that. I have much more info on this...
Notice he said, rediscovering this. They also find that the consciousness is non local meaning it does not need the body to exist, see NDE, near death experiences and OOBE, out of body experiences. I wish I could meet Dr. Goswami to go over Vogelsang's work where he developed AI, artificial intelligence back in 1982. This led to discovering the God consciousness through the decaying process(AM241) of random alpha waves, which the brain also emits during creativity spurts of new ideas.
Whether its called God or called Consciousness, we all share it anyway. It should be our obligation to each other to nurture the good that connects us. Through this phenomena humanity may finally take its biggest quantum leap of biological evolution, and it would be feasible to communicate telepathically and flawlessly with one another, at the same time.
I appreciate your input Firesprink as I may have studied less Quantum physics than you but did study a lot of Metaphysics as a Philosophy major and saw how modern physics and Metaphysics blended if you were not some Ivory Tower elitist and we both agree that this Consciousness we call "God" is singular and all things material reside within it...IE Matter and Mass.. As Einstein said "Everything is Energy" so it is this Consciousness that creates the illusion shall of matter..!
I think Tolle's explanation of consciousness is much easier to understand for the layman. Basically, the consciousness we have in our everyday lives is the ego. It identifies with the body, as a self. In reality, there is no self. The awareness behind the ego is the real self and is shared by all living creatures. It permeates all space. The unmanifested becomes manifested into form.
I will look out for it! This is based on one equation (E= ˠ M˳C² )∞ the Lorentz contraction of space and time is between the energy and mass. The greater the energy the greater the contraction of space and the slower time will run. Mass will increase relative to this and each ref-frame can be seen as a vortex in space. The brackets represent the boundary condition of the ref-frame formed by the energy and the infinity symbol represents an infinite number of ref-frames that make up our Universe.
@litrehead I think his view is that consciousness is what perceives the insects, trees, forest, world to begin with. With all of those things being perceived, now they have consciousness as well. So, even if YOU don't observe the tree falling, nor does any "person"...consciousness was still there. I'm not claiming to understand quantum mechanics, but you have to understand the jist of it to get where he's coming from. I'm sort of atheist, but this has really made me think.
Amazing stuff; Part 3 is my favorite though. Anyhoo, Science and Religion seek answers to the same question, they are not enemies! They are 2 sides to the same coin and once we fully understand this can we begin to ask the proper questions about the universe
Lastly, i think terms are a problem because we are newly emerging from a long era of materialism. once doors are knocked down and gates opened, terms like illusion take on different meaning. or lose meaning in this case. using the word illusion contrasts a materialist view, so i tend to confuse people because i abandoned that view long ago. everything is "real" to me because i no longer see a materialist basis for the existence of matter and the Universe. Just clarifying.
I've been saying this for sometime now...it's based upon the true nature of things and the Universe as we can see it to be... Nothing exists outside of that consciousness we call "God!"
No, I have to admit I have no formal study in quantum physics, just my own personal study. But what I have learned is that the universe is not only aware of us, but it is aware of OUR awareness of IT. The most basic fundamental laws literally do the "cha-cha" behind our backs until we turn to look, then everything suddenly behaves as we expect. Very similar to the way a mischievous child behaves. If you follow basic logic to its ultimate conclusion, matter, energy, time, and space cannot exist.
as a matter if refining your point, conciousness is the point that collapses an event. a video camera catches the phenomena. so it both does and doesnt make a sound. Paradox is the answer.
I never had any intention on debating reality. Most of your points I agree with. The fellow I was replying to was basically saying "If it can't be proven, then it isn't there." It's an arrogant viewpoint I encounter quite a bit. Also, some things I have learned about do seem to point to the possibility of intelligent design. I'm not jumping on the bandwagon, but I do see it passing by.
Do we know what consciousness is scientifically? This is an invitation to see an artist theory on the physics of light and time! This theory is based on two postulates 1. Is that the quantum wave particle function Ψ represents the forward passage of time ∆E ∆t ≥ h/2π itself 2. Is that Heisenberg’s Uncertainty Principle ∆×∆p×≥h/4π that is formed by the w- function is the same uncertainty we have with any future event that we can interact with turning the possible into the actual!
@litrehead A tree does not produce a sound as it falls in woods, als long as there is no eardrum to catch the vibration, connected to an audio nervoussystem to interpret it, either biological or mechanical. It would compress air.
All conscious and sentience arises in the brain, this goes for all animals as well. There is nothing in objects without this neural network that supports the idea that they are conscious. I seriously doubt that plants are conscious, that would make the whole concept diluted as well.
I don't really care all that much about what Dr. Goswami has to say about psychics nearly as much as I am fascinated by his hypothesis of inner or "downward" causality, which makes a further hypothesis of a non-material universe slightly more palatable. Now, can we prove any of this? Probably not. So, yeah, it's not very scientific. But just because we can't prove a hypothesis doesn't mean we have to strike it from the record entirely, because the unprovable might possibly be true.
I implore everyone on this video to watch WITHOUT BIAS. If you watch this video (or most likely only a few minutes of it) expecting to make fun of it, ridicule it, and think that it is stupid afterward, you are NOT going to get the message of this video. You are -not- going to pay attention to anything the physicist is talking about, nor are you going to even register his evidences and arguments. You should listen to any arguments without bias so that you don't misinterpret what they represent.
Even when the compressed air is recorded, it still is not sound untill it gets interpreted that way. So untill there is an interpreting consiousness or constructed audio-nervous system, there is no sound. There cant be.
When you don't believe in anything higher than yourself - when you believe that you are simply a biological robot who has no soul and that there is no afterlife - it makes it a lot easier to indulge in acts of lust, greed, gluttony, and other worldly pleasures. This is because you end up believing that there is no spiritual consequence for that in this life or the next. He didn't say that people become Atheists for this reason, but that Atheists are essentially more likely to act like this.
Yes but more so, if time is an illusion then the reason we experience the flow of time is because we live within the illusion of life, thus when the illusion ends, in reality, it never has ended since time is an illusion (perhaps the answer is the holographic universe theory, in which our reality is mere information describing all of space & time in one) therefore we re-enter the illusion over and over. This could be the more detailed & explanatory resolution to the problem IMO.
What are the scientific experiences and anomalies that cant be explained with out top down causation? I still believe a tree makes a very loud sound when it falls in the woods and no one hears it. And the cat is either dead or alive regardless of whether we look at it or not. Our perception is not necessary for things to happen or exist. Some one please explain!
The former is indirectly linked to the latter though. The more you think the material world is all their is, the more you will tend to think that the pleasure principle is the sole source of ethics.
What will happen to the consciousness which is non local or universal when all human beings with or without brains and animals or life forms (for migration) were all dead(extinct)? At the center of galaxies are blackholes ready to gobble the earth the whole galaxy. Will the God of the Christians do the creating again ( a brain for vessels of consciousness) so that this quantum mumbo jumbo is feasible? I rest my case your honor.
Secondly, he was equating materialism with a hedonistic lifestyle (materialism often excludes God), not necessarily non-belief in God. Materialism is when you believe that everything 'alive' in the Universe are biological robotic mistakes with no metaphysical consciousness outside of the mechanics of the neurons of the brain, and that everything we see is made of what we conceptualize (falsely) as 'matter.' This lifestyle and way-of-thinking can very well contribute to a hedonistic lifestyle.
I understand your proposition by the way in terms of theory. not trying to be difficult, but i think its important to cut to the bottom of philosophical truth. it can shortcut alot of math and general theory. not that its a bad thing. I agree with your posit from the standpoint of problem resolution concerning non-local transcendent superposition. My wont is to reduce terms, its a habit :)
No, I'm not. Sound is compressed air interpreted by a nervous system. Therefore there cant be sound without either compressed air, or a nervous system. That is not materialistic, that is just the way it works. The universe being infinite has little to do with that.
i know this is 14 years old however we actualy found a way to use these non phisical processes with traning using the monroe intitue audio tapes the so called gateway process made by robert monore and for you to get an idea of the possibilities i can gain information about anything and anyone just by being near them and this has been hited which makes me act as if i was the person
You miss my point ... that wave can only be called sound when it is interpreted by a nervous system equiped to translate that wave pattern to something 'audible'. That is not materialistic, that's just the way it is. Without a nervous system, there is only a wave pattern of compressed air. I am not addressing any other point here .. the universe being local and non-local has nothing to do with it .. and is a completely different discussion, as is an omnipresent being.
Not really .. you are adding the property 'audio nervous system' to conciousness. If that where the case, it would not have had to evolve to the point where it can percieve itself.
@MrSigma I think the picture of God that Dawkins is against is not compatible with the idea that Goswami presents, so it will not be like the typical discussions with a muslim or a christian.
@ChariceMing2 I wouldn't argue with you about that except to say Evil is of Our making from our "Free Will" and willingness to go against "God" and Nature...
Its understanding to a few yet to many.. Belief is something I do as well but its pretty much impossible but a perfect vision yet Honest another thought I wonder. . I hope He's well..
obviously the perciever affects the perception. but conciousness is infinite and is everywhere in the Universe simulataneously. the Paradox nullifies your absolute proposition.
you do understand that you made a comment on the forefront thread of scientific philosophy. Those who believe what dr. Goswami proposes must conclude a "god" exists.
There is zero evidence to show that all objects are not conscious...There is the fact that humans are conscious, and many scientists are finding a high level of sentience among animals, and we are made of the same matter as everything else. That would support this idea, we just haven't figured out how to talk to plants yet :-)
Time is not illusion. Its real to us. Its merely irrelevant to the greater scheme of the Universe as far as structure and age are concerned. Life is not any more illusion than the Universe itself is. Its the sleeping god dreaming of himself dreaming of him being another being. ad infinitum. Illusions are human contructs which cannot exist in an infinite universe.Therefore there is only one of them, although they take different form based upon macro or micro inspection: Void, nothingness, death.
THERE ARE THREE STATES OF LIVING, BEING AND BECOMING. LIVING IN MATERIALISM, TRANSCENDING MATTER, AND BECOMING THE SPIRIT WE TRULY ARE OR NON-MATERIALISTIC.
mmkay lol thought you were arguin the existence of the soundwave. nevermind. just me mis-interpreting your statement i suppose. Still im unsure what importance a name of an event signifies, but okie dokie :)
what you call sound is what science calls a wave. So regardless of your bodies unique and yet shared experience of that perception it has reality. But its all moot because all of the Universe is both local and nonlocal consiousness. Taking it from the materialistic side of things what if there were organisms omnipresent that had evolved the same sensory perception of what we call sound. The simple possibility of that condition renders it moot. So what was your point really?gn for now btw.
No it does not ... unless there is something there that interprets compressed air. There is no such thing as sound untill compressed air gets interpreted that way. That requires either an ear, biological or otherwise constructed. Without an ear and the corresponding nervous system to interpret the signals, there is only compressed air.
Let's say we have two individuals. Individual A believes that an Almighty Creator has sent down scripture in the past that tells him He has created the Universe and Individual A himself for a purpose. Individual A believes that he is a spiritual being who will be reborn into other bodies, influenced by his actions in his current life. The Creator tells him that to be successful in the afterlife, he is to avoid drinking alcohol, multiple sex partners, doing drugs, (continued)
I started watching this with the intention of disliking it, as a non-denominational being. Though as I listened to Dr. Goswami, I found that I really had no objection to his interpretation of the meaning of God. I would probably call it something else if left to my own devices, but I think there is a fundamental truth behind Dr. Goswami's cosmic view.
Atheists are in a losing battle.. reject God.. but invoke trillions and trillions of unobservable untestable universes with a universe generating machine "mechanism" out there somewhere.. absolutely hilarious!
"Yet my life isn't controlled by the attemt to gain material wealth or possessions, nor is it driven by the desire for comfort or pleasure." You may be the odd man out, because I've noticed that (and this tends to leak over in a way so as to have political ramifications) the new atheist movement tends to also support to counterculture.
sorry to differ with you. evil is a corruption of good. it has no real absolute existence apart from its contrast with good. Or to put it more metaphysically: Love is the overriding truth of the Universe and because the Universe is infinite void has no absolute existence. Its only manifested relatively.
I wasn't insinuating that there's no such thing as reality. I was simply pointing out that we can't prove the very thing we are more certain of than anything else: our own existence. I am certain that I am real, yet I cannot prove to you that I am real. hznfrst was making an argument that if something can't be proven, then it's nonsense, or "numbskullery". Well, by that reasoning, I guess my own existence is nonsense, because I cannot "prove" to anyone that I exist.
@mikhaelmalisse Perhaps you should try really thinking about this before you insta-dismiss it. I'm pretty much atheist, but I've never claimed to KNOW that god doesn't exist. You can't either. It does say something that every single group of people has had some sort of spiritual belief...maybe there's more to it than "they were all just ignorant and we're not". You should watch the entire video on Netflix - Quantum Activist. Super intriguing.
Postulating consciousness onto everything is a very anthropomorphic argument that is just natural coming from a conscious being. Although an interesting concept, there is no evidence in favor of any of these ideas.
youre assuming a materialist point of view. That position has no relevance to philosophy. If you want a scientific theoretical refutation of materialism,read this gentleman's book. The Universe is infinite, therefore every element of it is infinite. I could argue the philosophy in greater depth but that simple reduction is all i need. The question is: do i have to offer you proof of an Infinite Universe?
Sure, we can delve into the semantics of knowledge and reality, so point taken. However, you seem to be coming from the angle that if something can't be proven, then it's not worth taking seriously. Perhaps I've misunderstood you. If so, let me know. The dilemma of consciousness seems to be a real dilemma. Perhaps I don't know for certain that this dilemma actually exists. So, yeah, you can take the semantic route, as I often have, but from my experience it's just not very useful.
That is a false assumption. I do not believe we have a soul. I believe that our consciousness is a direct result of the way matter behaves given sufficient amount of time. And I don't believe in a creator. Yet my life isn't controlled by the attemt to gain material wealth or possessions, nor is it driven by the desire for comfort or pleasure.
I like this guy, have read his books, how ever the "gaps in the fossil records" thing does not hold water ( look it up for yourself). Sorry to say, he just lost major credibility points with me.. :(
This is interesting. It is like learning the physics of beliefs found in Taoism, Zen, Cha'an and other belief systems that believe we are all manifestations of an absolute consciousness or essence.
Dr Amit Goswami.... I adore youuu!
My study of quantum physics, and my own hypothesis on the nature of reality agree with you completely. Dr. Goswami explained it perfectly in this video. I believe in what he calls "top-down causality", although I didn't have a name for it until now. I believe that consciousness is the only thing that does exist. Everything else is a figment of that consciousness. The universal consciousness is God, and we are all a part of that. I have much more info on this...
Notice he said, rediscovering this. They also find that the consciousness is non local meaning it does not need the body to exist, see NDE, near death experiences and OOBE, out of body experiences. I wish I could meet Dr. Goswami to go over Vogelsang's work where he developed AI, artificial intelligence back in 1982. This led to discovering the God consciousness through the decaying process(AM241) of random alpha waves, which the brain also emits during creativity spurts of new ideas.
dude I'm officially picking up a book on this tomorrow. This is amazing.
Whether its called God or called Consciousness, we all share it anyway. It should be our obligation to each other to nurture the good that connects us. Through this phenomena humanity may finally take its biggest quantum leap of biological evolution, and it would be feasible to communicate telepathically and flawlessly with one another, at the same time.
I appreciate your input Firesprink as I may have studied less Quantum physics than you but did study a lot of Metaphysics as a Philosophy major and saw how modern physics and Metaphysics blended if you were not some Ivory Tower elitist and we both agree that this Consciousness we call "God" is singular and all things material reside within it...IE Matter and Mass.. As Einstein said "Everything is Energy" so it is this Consciousness that creates the illusion shall of matter..!
Interesting discussions here... Informative video - I can't use fancy scientific terminology but I can say that Knowledge is Power.
I think Tolle's explanation of consciousness is much easier to understand for the layman. Basically, the consciousness we have in our everyday lives is the ego. It identifies with the body, as a self. In reality, there is no self. The awareness behind the ego is the real self and is shared by all living creatures. It permeates all space. The unmanifested becomes manifested into form.
Thank you for this comment brother. Can you teach more on this subject.
Thank you for posting this interview!
I will look out for it! This is based on one equation (E= ˠ M˳C² )∞ the Lorentz contraction of space and time is between the energy and mass. The greater the energy the greater the contraction of space and the slower time will run. Mass will increase relative to this and each ref-frame can be seen as a vortex in space. The brackets represent the boundary condition of the ref-frame formed by the energy and the infinity symbol represents an infinite number of ref-frames that make up our Universe.
@litrehead I think his view is that consciousness is what perceives the insects, trees, forest, world to begin with. With all of those things being perceived, now they have consciousness as well. So, even if YOU don't observe the tree falling, nor does any "person"...consciousness was still there. I'm not claiming to understand quantum mechanics, but you have to understand the jist of it to get where he's coming from. I'm sort of atheist, but this has really made me think.
Amazing stuff; Part 3 is my favorite though. Anyhoo, Science and Religion seek answers to the same question, they are not enemies! They are 2 sides to the same coin and once we fully understand this can we begin to ask the proper questions about the universe
Great book, highly informative.
Absolutely agreed! with everything he says. By direct 'experiece'.Absolutely not--Blind Faith.
Correct conclusion. The Universe in infinite, therefore individual and collective conciousness is infinite and therefore eternal.
GREAT VIDEO. SPETACULAR.
Lastly, i think terms are a problem because we are newly emerging from a long era of materialism. once doors are knocked down and gates opened, terms like illusion take on different meaning. or lose meaning in this case. using the word illusion contrasts a materialist view, so i tend to confuse people because i abandoned that view long ago. everything is "real" to me because i no longer see a materialist basis for the existence of matter and the Universe. Just clarifying.
I've been saying this for sometime now...it's based upon the true nature of things and the Universe as we can see it to be... Nothing exists outside of that consciousness we call "God!"
Thought provoking - give me more!
No, I have to admit I have no formal study in quantum physics, just my own personal study. But what I have learned is that the universe is not only aware of us, but it is aware of OUR awareness of IT. The most basic fundamental laws literally do the "cha-cha" behind our backs until we turn to look, then everything suddenly behaves as we expect. Very similar to the way a mischievous child behaves. If you follow basic logic to its ultimate conclusion, matter, energy, time, and space cannot exist.
why isn't the video working? I'm super disappointed. this is one of the best videos of all time!!! someone PLEASE get back to me...............
We are one ultimately be one with almighty
as a matter if refining your point, conciousness is the point that collapses an event. a video camera catches the phenomena. so it both does and doesnt make a sound. Paradox is the answer.
i really love this being... he's SO COOL... 😎🙏😇😍💖💖💖😘👏🙌😊
This is facinating.
I never had any intention on debating reality. Most of your points I agree with. The fellow I was replying to was basically saying "If it can't be proven, then it isn't there." It's an arrogant viewpoint I encounter quite a bit. Also, some things I have learned about do seem to point to the possibility of intelligent design. I'm not jumping on the bandwagon, but I do see it passing by.
Do we know what consciousness is scientifically?
This is an invitation to see an artist theory on the physics of light and time!
This theory is based on two postulates
1. Is that the quantum wave particle function Ψ represents the forward passage of time ∆E ∆t ≥ h/2π itself
2. Is that Heisenberg’s Uncertainty Principle ∆×∆p×≥h/4π that is formed by the w- function is the same uncertainty we have with any future event that we can interact with turning the possible into the actual!
@litrehead A tree does not produce a sound as it falls in woods, als long as there is no eardrum to catch the vibration, connected to an audio nervoussystem to interpret it, either biological or mechanical. It would compress air.
All conscious and sentience arises in the brain, this goes for all animals as well. There is nothing in objects without this neural network that supports the idea that they are conscious. I seriously doubt that plants are conscious, that would make the whole concept diluted as well.
I don't really care all that much about what Dr. Goswami has to say about psychics nearly as much as I am fascinated by his hypothesis of inner or "downward" causality, which makes a further hypothesis of a non-material universe slightly more palatable. Now, can we prove any of this? Probably not. So, yeah, it's not very scientific. But just because we can't prove a hypothesis doesn't mean we have to strike it from the record entirely, because the unprovable might possibly be true.
Excellent.... thanks 🙏.
Absolutely brilliant.
I implore everyone on this video to watch WITHOUT BIAS. If you watch this video (or most likely only a few minutes of it) expecting to make fun of it, ridicule it, and think that it is stupid afterward, you are NOT going to get the message of this video. You are -not- going to pay attention to anything the physicist is talking about, nor are you going to even register his evidences and arguments. You should listen to any arguments without bias so that you don't misinterpret what they represent.
Even when the compressed air is recorded, it still is not sound untill it gets interpreted that way. So untill there is an interpreting consiousness or constructed audio-nervous system, there is no sound. There cant be.
When you don't believe in anything higher than yourself - when you believe that you are simply a biological robot who has no soul and that there is no afterlife - it makes it a lot easier to indulge in acts of lust, greed, gluttony, and other worldly pleasures. This is because you end up believing that there is no spiritual consequence for that in this life or the next. He didn't say that people become Atheists for this reason, but that Atheists are essentially more likely to act like this.
Read this Dr's book. You will conclude differently, especially after reviewing all sourceable material.
Yes but more so, if time is an illusion then the reason we experience the flow of time is because we live within the illusion of life, thus when the illusion ends, in reality, it never has ended since time is an illusion (perhaps the answer is the holographic universe theory, in which our reality is mere information describing all of space & time in one) therefore we re-enter the illusion over and over. This could be the more detailed & explanatory resolution to the problem IMO.
"EXCELLENT'...... thanks 🙏.
What are the scientific experiences and anomalies that cant be explained with out top down causation? I still believe a tree makes a very loud sound when it falls in the woods and no one hears it. And the cat is either dead or alive regardless of whether we look at it or not. Our perception is not necessary for things to happen or exist. Some one please explain!
The former is indirectly linked to the latter though. The more you think the material world is all their is, the more you will tend to think that the pleasure principle is the sole source of ethics.
What will happen to the consciousness which is non local or universal when all human beings with or without brains and animals or life forms (for migration) were all dead(extinct)? At the center of galaxies are blackholes ready to gobble the earth the whole galaxy. Will the God of the Christians do the creating again ( a brain for vessels of consciousness) so that this quantum mumbo jumbo is feasible? I rest my case your honor.
Secondly, he was equating materialism with a hedonistic lifestyle (materialism often excludes God), not necessarily non-belief in God. Materialism is when you believe that everything 'alive' in the Universe are biological robotic mistakes with no metaphysical consciousness outside of the mechanics of the neurons of the brain, and that everything we see is made of what we conceptualize (falsely) as 'matter.' This lifestyle and way-of-thinking can very well contribute to a hedonistic lifestyle.
I understand your proposition by the way in terms of theory. not trying to be difficult, but i think its important to cut to the bottom of philosophical truth. it can shortcut alot of math and general theory. not that its a bad thing. I agree with your posit from the standpoint of problem resolution concerning non-local transcendent superposition. My wont is to reduce terms, its a habit :)
No, I'm not. Sound is compressed air interpreted by a nervous system. Therefore there cant be sound without either compressed air, or a nervous system. That is not materialistic, that is just the way it works. The universe being infinite has little to do with that.
I read two books of this new Einstein!
It eliminates paradox's but recognizes that paradox itself is merely an absolute component of the Universe.
truth is unfolding.
Well stated.
thank you
Right after he explains upward causation, the interviewer asks him to re-explain upward causation. Was he not listening?
i know this is 14 years old however we actualy found a way to use these non phisical processes with traning using the monroe intitue audio tapes the so called gateway process made by robert monore and for you to get an idea of the possibilities i can gain information about anything and anyone just by being near them and this has been hited which makes me act as if i was the person
the interpretation comes with recorded information. the answer is that it both does and does not. simultaneously.
You miss my point ... that wave can only be called sound when it is interpreted by a nervous system equiped to translate that wave pattern to something 'audible'. That is not materialistic, that's just the way it is. Without a nervous system, there is only a wave pattern of compressed air. I am not addressing any other point here .. the universe being local and non-local has nothing to do with it .. and is a completely different discussion, as is an omnipresent being.
Not really .. you are adding the property 'audio nervous system' to conciousness. If that where the case, it would not have had to evolve to the point where it can percieve itself.
@MrSigma I think the picture of God that Dawkins is against is not compatible with the idea that Goswami presents, so it will not be like the typical discussions with a muslim or a christian.
Constructive and interesting concepts
if I live once then the odds of now being the time I am alive is Infinity/1 and the only resolution is eternal life
@ChariceMing2 I wouldn't argue with you about that except to say Evil is of Our making from our "Free Will" and willingness to go against "God" and Nature...
Its understanding to a few yet to many.. Belief is something I do as well but its pretty much impossible but a perfect vision yet Honest another thought I wonder. . I hope He's well..
What was that about the most striking evidence for downward causation....quantum signatures? And can you define that cause it sounds like gibberish.
obviously the perciever affects the perception. but conciousness is infinite and is everywhere in the Universe simulataneously. the Paradox nullifies your absolute proposition.
you do understand that you made a comment on the forefront thread of scientific philosophy. Those who believe what dr. Goswami proposes must conclude a "god" exists.
There is zero evidence to show that all objects are not conscious...There is the fact that humans are conscious, and many scientists are finding a high level of sentience among animals, and we are made of the same matter as everything else. That would support this idea, we just haven't figured out how to talk to plants yet :-)
i like the quantum graphity theory. the big chill
Have you read this Dr.'s book: the self aware universe?
At 10:30 talks about 2 people meditate together (could be making love) for 20 minutes; then after, their brains (minds) are connected!
Time is not illusion. Its real to us. Its merely irrelevant to the greater scheme of the Universe as far as structure and age are concerned. Life is not any more illusion than the Universe itself is. Its the sleeping god dreaming of himself dreaming of him being another being. ad infinitum. Illusions are human contructs which cannot exist in an infinite universe.Therefore there is only one of them, although they take different form based upon macro or micro inspection: Void, nothingness, death.
Anyone know where I can find more info on this telepathy experiment he mentions?
I have thought this way for a long time, without a degree.
this shit is deep, have to watch it multiple times
THERE ARE THREE STATES OF LIVING, BEING AND BECOMING. LIVING IN MATERIALISM, TRANSCENDING MATTER, AND BECOMING THE SPIRIT WE TRULY ARE OR NON-MATERIALISTIC.
Jains always said God is your own soul,ie your conciousness
ARE THERE OTHER "UNIONS OR STATES" LIKE MARRIAGE, THAT PRODUCE THE SAME NON-LOCAL ONENESS?
mmkay lol thought you were arguin the existence of the soundwave. nevermind. just me mis-interpreting your statement i suppose. Still im unsure what importance a name of an event signifies, but okie dokie :)
what you call sound is what science calls a wave. So regardless of your bodies unique and yet shared experience of that perception it has reality. But its all moot because all of the Universe is both local and nonlocal consiousness. Taking it from the materialistic side of things what if there were organisms omnipresent that had evolved the same sensory perception of what we call sound. The simple possibility of that condition renders it moot. So what was your point really?gn for now btw.
No it does not ... unless there is something there that interprets compressed air. There is no such thing as sound untill compressed air gets interpreted that way. That requires either an ear, biological or otherwise constructed.
Without an ear and the corresponding nervous system to interpret the signals, there is only compressed air.
Let's say we have two individuals. Individual A believes that an Almighty Creator has sent down scripture in the past that tells him He has created the Universe and Individual A himself for a purpose. Individual A believes that he is a spiritual being who will be reborn into other bodies, influenced by his actions in his current life. The Creator tells him that to be successful in the afterlife, he is to avoid drinking alcohol, multiple sex partners, doing drugs, (continued)
I started watching this with the intention of disliking it, as a non-denominational being. Though as I listened to Dr. Goswami, I found that I really had no objection to his interpretation of the meaning of God. I would probably call it something else if left to my own devices, but I think there is a fundamental truth behind Dr. Goswami's cosmic view.
Can some one please tell me, what is this word he says on 3:35. It would help a lot for me. Bless
"the god that satisfies the three criterion...."
Ah, the God argument, beatin dead to a pulp.....indeed it will unfold in it's own time and of it's own volition.
Atheists are in a losing battle.. reject God.. but invoke trillions and trillions of unobservable untestable universes with a universe generating machine "mechanism" out there somewhere.. absolutely hilarious!
"Yet my life isn't controlled by the attemt to gain material wealth or possessions, nor is it driven by the desire for comfort or pleasure."
You may be the odd man out, because I've noticed that (and this tends to leak over in a way so as to have political ramifications) the new atheist movement tends to also support to counterculture.
sorry to differ with you. evil is a corruption of good. it has no real absolute existence apart from its contrast with good. Or to put it more metaphysically: Love is the overriding truth of the Universe and because the Universe is infinite void has no absolute existence. Its only manifested relatively.
That's called being reasonable about reason.
I wasn't insinuating that there's no such thing as reality. I was simply pointing out that we can't prove the very thing we are more certain of than anything else: our own existence. I am certain that I am real, yet I cannot prove to you that I am real.
hznfrst was making an argument that if something can't be proven, then it's nonsense, or "numbskullery". Well, by that reasoning, I guess my own existence is nonsense, because I cannot "prove" to anyone that I exist.
@mikhaelmalisse Perhaps you should try really thinking about this before you insta-dismiss it. I'm pretty much atheist, but I've never claimed to KNOW that god doesn't exist. You can't either. It does say something that every single group of people has had some sort of spiritual belief...maybe there's more to it than "they were all just ignorant and we're not". You should watch the entire video on Netflix - Quantum Activist. Super intriguing.
I was saying, shall we say of matter, but ran out of characters..
Postulating consciousness onto everything is a very anthropomorphic argument that is just natural coming from a conscious being. Although an interesting concept, there is no evidence in favor of any of these ideas.
As above, so below
lets get started! lol
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youre assuming a materialist point of view. That position has no relevance to philosophy. If you want a scientific theoretical refutation of materialism,read this gentleman's book. The Universe is infinite, therefore every element of it is infinite. I could argue the philosophy in greater depth but that simple reduction is all i need. The question is: do i have to offer you proof of an Infinite Universe?
i dont understand anything talked here
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Sure, we can delve into the semantics of knowledge and reality, so point taken. However, you seem to be coming from the angle that if something can't be proven, then it's not worth taking seriously. Perhaps I've misunderstood you. If so, let me know. The dilemma of consciousness seems to be a real dilemma. Perhaps I don't know for certain that this dilemma actually exists. So, yeah, you can take the semantic route, as I often have, but from my experience it's just not very useful.
That is a false assumption. I do not believe we have a soul. I believe that our consciousness is a direct result of the way matter behaves given sufficient amount of time. And I don't believe in a creator. Yet my life isn't controlled by the attemt to gain material wealth or possessions, nor is it driven by the desire for comfort or pleasure.
I like this guy, have read his books, how ever the "gaps in the fossil records" thing does not hold water ( look it up for yourself). Sorry to say, he just lost major credibility points with me.. :(
lol i gathered, although im sure you confused the poor guy who originated the comment thread :0) take care.
Is this entanglement
there is GOD and for god's sake dont prove gods existence, using scientific reasoning.