jacob collier being a musical wizard for one minute
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- jacob collier being a musical wizard for one minute
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The song they're referring to is Whereabouts by Stevie Wonder: • Whereabouts
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I swear when charlie said "this is why I have so much trouble dating, because nobody gives me the feeling..." I thought he was about to propose to jacob
I think he should…..they both love chords and theory
Almost like he friendzoned Jacob because of chords. It was so sweet
He needs to be open to it
I believe he did, just that jacob did not seems to take the hint
I think he was! I'm also sure Jacob felt complimented lol
To me this is just two guys making a bunch of noises with their mouths and instruments. To them it's an entire conversation with plenty of emotions being exchanged. Crazy
I couldn't say it better 👍👍 🤣
It’s probably because you’re not a musician (probably). If you are than… I can’t help you! This is actually great info for a musician!!!
@@jasonsan9517 you're right. I'm not a musician but I've always had a great interest in music and I want to learn some day soon
Right. you can resolve to the fifth of any note in a four note finished chord. Actually makes lots of sense. Diminished chords were always called “portal chords” for a reason.
I dont get it
oh i fucking get it. Man he could really explain these incredibly useful concepts a little better
@@louispearson8306 Yeah. e.g: C Eb, F#, A. Pick any note. Treat it like a V7. Presto.
@@louispearson8306 Also it's a general rule that you can just shift up or down a halfstep from any note in a diminished chord too. So frankly you don't have just 4, you have 8.
@@SirBenjiful Stop bashing things you don't understand bro hahhahaha
Bruh these two are scary with music knowledge
Also your editing is super good, it made the video 10x more fun to watch
I agree lol. And thanks!
Any harmony textbook - chapter „diminished chords“ - page 1: You can take any diminished chord and it goes always in four directions equally.
Musicians: Meh 😒
Jacob Collier: You can take any diminished chord and it goes always in four directions equally.
Musicians: Say whaaaaat... 🤯😱
😂 sry guys... couldn’t resist
Literally. I mean, diminished chords are fun, but it’s definitely not rocket science
This. This, this.
Yup. You're gonna learn this in the first year of any college jazz program
Basically a Diminished chord is like a dominant b9 rootless chord. Take the dim chord B-D-F-Ab. Add a G on the bass, you got G7b9. Add a E on the bass, you have E7b9 chord. Add Bb, you have Bb7b9, and the same with C#, you get a C#7b9. That's why it works so well for modulating in this case.
BROO THAT SOO MUCH SENSE holy jesus, you are the chord!
totally didnt expect that ending about problem with dating
Hey! These are really good. If you got any more of these I'd love to watch. Great editing and transcriptions really help! Thanks
Thank you so much for this video and the entire editing!!!
Makes us mortals begin to understand something.
This is like 2nd semester music theory. Diminished chords are the thing that gets us to wiggle to remote keys.
This was very impressive back in the early 1800’s when Wagner figured it out.
Or Beethoven. Or one could argue Bach 60 years earlier.
Same with most jazz harmony being attributed to "moderne" post-bebop jazzers when, as even Herbie Hancock says, "They were doing that stuff in the '20's". Like Ellington or Gershwin.
...And then it turns out Ravel and Debussy did all of that stuff well before the 1920's.
Musicians (particularly of the academia realm in education) become top-heavy when the roots of any music aren't taught with the same care, detail or passion as the dangling branches and shiny fruits...
Impressive back then yes, impressive now, perhaps not, still a joy to marvel at. Just like any plain old perfect authentic cadence. Yep, that’s the stuff.
Rotfl
Yeah, ambiguously resolving fully diminished chords was explored by early romantic era composers, definitely pre-Wagner.
i didn't expect the ending
I love Jacob with my whole heart. But this is not wizardry, this is common knowledge even in "simpler" classical harmony
i mean, you can still love things that are common knowledge
never mind i just saw the title of the vid again
Exactly.
It is kinda cringe, also I like both of em as people. But sometimes the gatekeeping is real
Seriously... This is taught as basic modulation theory. This isn't Harry Potter wizardry at all... this is a "read basic theory textbook" skill set.
DAMN!!! I never thought about diminished chords like that even though I play some of those changes. 🤯
Jacob just broke Charlie 😂
best duo ever, these two
He is amazing
Omg he was just flirting with jacob at the end and he didnt noticed
Lol hell nah, he explicitly said “she” 😂
This is Barry Harris' Family of Four Dominants. Check it out if you want to know more.
the end LMAO
Barry Harris approved
He's a wizard for his entire life
hes just talking about how versatile diminished chords are. They can resolve to so many different chords and as such are an incredibly useful tool when writing chord progressions.
Yeah I mean who hasn't used diminished to resolve even without theory in songwriting. This video gave me as much information as saying that a major chord feels bright and happy...
me transcribing just another collier facetime video 😂
sorry to bother, but in 0:34 the resolving chords are actually Bb, Db and E, Jacob just says out loud what note do we flatten in dim chord to get the to the resolution (like in the first one - F# becomes F, so it's a F7 to Bb and etc)
True, this could confuse someone who isn't familiar with the concept of diminished 7s 'containing' four dominant chords.
Maybe it's just me, but as I'm trying to decipher that score, I also find it difficult to read a F#dim7 chord notated
F# A C D# instead of F# A C Eb, since I'm used to think of dim7 chords as
1 b3 b5 bb7. But I'm really just an amateur and not familiar with standard notation ; maybe there's a reason it's written like this ? To make the resolution chord more readable maybe ?
I guess he/she kept on with writing the 'Lyrics' (what JC says) instead of notating the chords. But it's a bit confusing at first indeed.
My favorite part about music composition is it's one of the few skills in which actively going out of your way to break the rules can actually improve your craft.
Well they're a framework, a guideline to work by, they do not define anything. Just observations of repeated behaviour.
The sun is in your eyyyeees!
TOTALLY SUSCRIBED TO THIS CHANNEL THAKS YOU SO MUCH FOR THE TRANSCRIPTIPON, YOU GAVE ME THE FEELING.
1:00 "Stevie" - my thoughts exactly. He does this all the time.
The are the types of conversations that davis and crane were having daily
This was helpful for me, I've done many things as a musician but I never got to take a theory class at the college level before. I had the choice between theory and aural skills and I'm happy I picked the latter, but still. Understand 1) something doesn't need to be novel to be fun, and 2) there's always someone who doesn't know; in this case, me.
musical genius- anything taught in freshman theory apparently
Charlie puth falling in love for a one Minute
waow !
You can actually have every fully diminished 7th chord go to any major or minor key.
To do this you need three methods, each that goes to a key a half step from each other (because if you have these three, then you have methods for the rest of the keys):
- First you can use the method described in the video.
[e.g. A dim 7 -> Bb (minor or major)]
- You can also resolve three of the notes from the fully diminished 7th chord up a half step to create a dominant 7, and resolve V7 - I.
[e.g. A dim 7 -> F#7 - B (minor or major)]
- Finally you can have two of the notes from the diminished chord resolve down to create a minor 7 and have this minor 7 resolve in a ii - V - I.
[e.g. A dim 7 -> Dm7 - G7 - C major]
Also, to smoothly go to the minor, you make the minor 7 be a half dim 7 instead.
[e.g. A dim 7 -> Dhalfdim7 - G7 - C minor]
These are the best ways I have figured out. There is also a cheeky way to get to C by using the original method and making the chord it resolves to instead be a dominant chord, then resolving that chord V7 - I [e.g. A dim 7 -> G7 -> C (major or minor)], but I wanted to show three unique ways. If you'd like clarification on anything here, feel free to give a reply :)
Now what if we do a bit of a tritone sub with that ii V I and get another key
@@pixelator9002 Well that takes you to a key a tritone distance away from where you would have been going anyway, which means you could have just used a different minor 7 with that method to get to that key, but that is actually are really cool idea for how to get there.
@@pixelator9002 Here's a recording of the idea (you'll hear it when it happens) ua-cam.com/video/11UawXQ-CPw/v-deo.html
Tbh any major or minor chord will sound resolved after a dim7 chord because there's so much tension
resolution is a term reserved for going from one chord to the next, if you have a sequence of 4 chords the first one isn't resolving to the last one
It's like the dominant chord for 4 keys all at once
stevie "whereabouts" 1986 is the song they are referencing ...
Romantic and Post Romantic composers using this 100 or 150 years ago like, the normal thing to do, but now we get impressed... xd
Right now she's **********
So, even the great Charlie Puth is not immune to Jacob Collier's spell...
special thanks to Barry Harris
This is the comment I was searching for hahah... Thank you.
yep, the modes of limited transposition, there are only 3 distinct diminished chords, 12/3 = 4, therefore each one has four possible resolutions
May I ask if there's a way for me to transcribe a piano script by simply playing the piano? Like is there a way for me to generate a piano sheet by playing the piano directly?
He meant I'm falling in love with your mind (too.)
This is the most music nerd thing on the internet and I love it!
0:52 JC plays Db7#9#11 and says Emaj
Charlie Puth meeting his sweetheart: you are the human chord
His sweetheart: Fdim 😬
I always think that this is what Mozart would be doing with his life if he lived today. Hell, George might be the reincarnated Mozart
Schubert and liszt laugh in augmented 6th
Btw this was figured out by Barry Harris more than 50 years ago and I think by several classical masters centuries ago.
Jacob can do no wrong
Charlie comes out of closet as audiophile
move any note of the diminished chord up a half step and you get a m6 chord =)
Yes. Or move it down and get a V7 chord.
@@gregsimmons3323 Yes. As shown in the video.
Look at what you can do with whole step resolutions and Diminished chords
I mean, that's just basic music theory anyone would learn in their 2nd year of undergrad getting a music degree.
Not a musical wizard, but a music theory wizard.
who can explain this to me simply 😭
TL;DR: a lot of chords sound nice when played after Jacob's chord, so it can be used in a lot of ways
Long answer:
Jacob is using a diminished 7th (dim7) chord. The most common way to make any major or minor chord sound resolved (think peaceful) is to put it's corresponding V7 chord before it. Any dim7 chord is very close to 4 of these at the same time (each 1 note away), so a dim7 can "imitate" each of them, as in resolve to anything that they can. Each V7 can resolve to a major or a minor chord (or more if you get fancy), so you get at least 8 chords that any dim7 chord can resolve to. Feel free to use enharmonics to simplify double flats when they come up.
Example: Bdim7 is 1 note off from each of Bb7, C#7, E7, G7 (write it out of you aren't convinced)
Bb7 resolves to Eb, Ebm
C#7 resolves to F#, F#m
E7 resolves to A, Am
G7 resolves to C, Cm
Thus Bdim7 resolves to Eb, Ebm, F#, F#m, A, Am, C, Cm
Every diminshed seven chord can be transformed into four different dominant chords by flattening one of its notes. This means a diminished chord can resolve to four different major and four different minor keys.
okay thanks i got it
This is just a basic jazz harmony thing. If you don't already know this, you're not going to learn a lot from Jacob Collier because you still need to learn the basics.
True but there are a lot of people out there without a background in jazz who might find this interesting so what's the harm.
@@UkuleleAversion I read "what's the harm" as a pun :)
@@christina69962 lol
Isn't this what also Pat Martino figured out?
Well yeah diminshed chords are self invertable so yeah
Congrats, you discovered Bartokian axis theory. We learned about that in the third year of undergrad studies.
Congrats on being so smart my dude.
As someone with no knowledge in music theory,
Yeah.
How come they're not married to each other yet
Dont mean to be a "ew knowitall" but this isnt particularly advanced theory, one of the big deals about dim7s is their symmetry
Still really cool video bc jacob frames things very well ❤️❤️❤️❤️
Heeeeeesss mistra knowww it alll
I can make this sound or I could make this sound or I could make this yet different sound or I could make this different sound
Anyone: explains something happily
Internet assholes: pfft that’s in a textbook somewhere he shouldn’t be happy or enjoying anything. He should be sad like me.
Check out Barry Harris if you like this concept. He talks about it a lot.
“Ya know what I mean”
No, Jacob. As a matter of fact, I don’t. But keep going please.
No entendi na
Get married
F# Diminish chord should be written in E flat!
i stg all he talks about is common knowledge i don’t get what all the craze is coming from
Being a musical genius - or just repeating what every music major learns about fully diminished chords in theory three or whatever. I'm not saying he isn't, but this is just general knowledge, he's not making it up or something.
IMO, this discussion isn't musical wizardry. It's second semester music theory. Of course a fully diminished chord resolves from each note. A fully dim 7th is really just two tritones. A tritone can resolve inwardly or outwardly. This isn't exactly a BFD....
ur a musical wizard too glad to know that
@@rezafajarfitroaji9275 thanks..I think? Nah, not a wizard. Just someone who put himself through school to earn a music degree and did some grad level work in choral conducting and impressionistic harmony.
This is half basic 1st year music theory half wrong
This is quite basic music theory knowledge, it's what diminished chords are usually used for. They can resolve in a lot of different directions so they're often used in modulations. Literally look up "diminished chords" in any theory textbook. I guess it's more interesting when it's on UA-cam and Jacob is saying it. Jacob Collier is amazing and his harmonic knowledge and exploration is out of this world, but this is a pretty basic theory concept. If you consider yourself a musician and you didn't already know this, then you're severely overrating your own knowledge.
You spelled "annoying as all fuck" wrong.
It's so funny that out of all the wizardry Jacob does, you choose the least impressive bit to show, where it takes him a moment to calculate and he actually looks like a regular human. Also Charlie's reactions are so overdramatic for such an obvious thing. Their ability to recognize the notes they hear is far more impressive.
they are just having fun why u take it so serious :D
Unlucky you! But fortunately for me my girlfriend is like a Ebbb/C#: she doesn’t exist cause it makes no sense
This is basic music knowledge...
This is really elementary...
This is nothing new.
You realize this is music theory from 1880 right? Smh, so outdated