please never stop making videos, you are thee best channel of tennis in youtube, it shows how you really want to help also. You have helped me a lot. Thank you very much
Kevin you are such a great coach dude, your videos are always helping me to improve and remember the key things that I need to work on, thank you from Chile, South America.
Great content! This is not related to this video, but I was hoping you'd take some time and arrange your work into playlists. You've done so much great work for over a decade and I personally appreciate it all. Sometimes, it's a bit hard to navigate the channel. I was looking on various bits you've done on improving the forehand, but it's a bit tough to sift through almost 300 videos just looking for only those about the forehand. You're probably too busy, but if you have the chance, it'd be nice to have organized playlists of what you've done. Otherwise, just want to say your work is appreciated! Thank you!
Thanks for the suggestion! I'll put that on my to do list because I want to make sure it's easier to find what you looking for on my channel. Thanks for your support
Alcaraz hits way more in front of him than Joker. Carlos drives the ball while Joker's forehand is really based on redirection so he doesn't expend energy to swing out. This was his problem at Wimbledon when the Alcaraz used the wind to give Joker a ton of dead balls and Joker made a ton of errors trying to drive the ball back. One of my hitting partners effectively redirects my pace and so sometimes I give her dead balls to work with and it frustrates her greatly. It's a great tactic for these players who don't generate their own pace.
Djokovic is likely right eye dominant, which means he cannot see a forehand ball until it is further back, and Alcaraz is likely left eye dominant, so he has to hit it out in front before it gets past his left eye. Good Coaches teach this way based on eye dominance, which is why it’s important to find out which eye is dominant before trying to copy your favorite player’s strokes. They are different for a few reasons.
Thanks so much for the videos. They are really helping me. But can you please do one on body weight management for forehand and double backhand. I am still confused on where I should place my weight in my feet before, during and after a shot. There are lots of different opinions. Please do a video on this. Thx!
Enjoyed the analysis. Question. I was looking though your videos but couldn't find how to play high balls for one handed backhands. Any tips or a video? Great content as always 💪🏻💪🏻
Love the content! Feels like we’re in the library though :) Does that much follow through still apply on shots that aren’t originating from 6’ behind the baseline? For closer in or even approach shots, how would all that forward momentum vs just windshield wiping be adjusted?
It's adjustable depending on the shot. If you need more penetration from behind the baseline you swing is going to be more linear and if you need more topspin your swing will be more vertical causing more of that windshield wiper action after contact.
@Total Tennis Domination Hi, I would like to ask you or someone who understands, to explain one thing to me, I have been playing tennis professionally and I have been training it for two years, let's say I have been playing recreationally, I play with Babolat Pure Drive 315 g, I have been reading and watching about rackets for a long time and I'm thinking of switching to Head, because I'm missing that kind of control in the exchanges, and now I'm really undecided between Gravi typro or Speed pro, or other racket so I'm interested in the opinion of which racket might be better suited?
Given that Alcaraz had about 3150 average topspin rpm on his forehand vs. Djokovic about 2850 rpm I don’t think the Djokovic clip is representative. I think you are seeing a steeper follow through due to hitting with a bent elbow but unless there’s a big difference in racquet face angle the swing path through contact is probably very similar with Alcaraz getting more topspin due to more racquet head speed and a bit lower racquet drop.
I totally agree with your comment on the top spin RPMs. What I was trying to articulate @twinwankel did better then I did. Novak's ability to use for hand in redirect players Power is phenomenal. He doesn't create same level of racquet speed like Alcaraz. Which means he wouldn't have a higher number of topspin RPMs but would have a steeper swing path due to bent arm and redirecting the ball. But again like I said in the video this is one many situation's players could find themselves and must adjust to for different balls to stay consistent in difference situations. Really appreciate your feedback. Big Thanks
@@TotalTennisDomination it is actually a pretty significant difference in topspin so I still think you are seeing the meaningless follow through rather than the swing path just before contact. It is the swing path into contact relative to the racquet face angle that creates the topspin. I don’t think these clips are representative as Carlos tends to “loop” his forehand more often than Djokovic even though he does flatten it out pretty spectacularly at times. In general, Djokovic hits a flatter forehand than Alcaraz and therefore tends to have a flatter swing regardless of the follow through.
Looks to me like Alcaraz is left eye dominant, and Djokovic is likely right eye dominant. Right eye dominant players tend to have more of an open position at contact and left eye dominant players will have a more closed stance at contact. It’s more important to find out which eye is dominant to know how you should hit the ball. If you are right eye dominant, you do not want to copy a left eye dominant players forehand and vice versa.
I love your channel and I love your work. But I think you missed it on this one. I struggle with this with my tennis coach, who also suggests coming up on the ball to generate more top spin. And looking at this video reaffirms my disagreement. The swing path of both Djokovic and Alcarez are relatively linear. There might be a slightly upward trajectory, and that makes sense because you have to hit up at least a little bit on the ball but if you look at the humerus, elbow, and even the wrist , the swing past is relatively linear, pretty, conversely, the internal and external rotation of the arm through contact, lifts the tennis racket. So I guess you have to be in two different camps. An upward swinging camp or a windshield wiper camp. I’m of the internal external rotation of the humorous camp which by default means. I guess I’m a windshield wiper.
First of all things for watching the channel. Second of all I don't necessarily think players have to choose a camp. The main principle is a linear swing create penetration add a porch swing create a degree of top spin. When we look at the pros at the highest level you're going to see more of a linear swing from all of them for the typical type of ball they hit which is only 3 to 5 feet over the net versus most recreational players. In my mind understanding that then there's a choice of what you're going to use to create the penetration and vertical swing. This can be done using internal and external show the rotation or simply lifting your shoulder or combination of both. To make it clear I think we both agree that there is a linear swing with slight vertical motion to create top spin. What part of your body feels comfortable doing it is for the individual player to decide. This is what makes tennis so wonderful is because there's no one exact way to hit the ball and we all choose what feels comfortable for us personally. Thanks for watching and commenting.
@@TotalTennisDomination Thank you for the insightful reply. Again, I love the channel and it's thrilling to get a reply. If we are to assume that Djokovic/Alcaraz are the "ideal", would it be fair to say that they are windshield wipers? Obviously the rec level player doesn't have timing/strength/training/flexibilty to copy this. By hitting up on the ball with the face parallel to the net, is this creating sheer forces that spin the ball? Is this a "rec level cheat code" to generate the topspin without having to deal with the internal / external rotation of the windshield wiper school of thought? Many thanks.
Doing good - took some time off to do lots of research and learn new ways to help all of you with your tennis games -- as well as working hard on creating a free community (coming up next week hopefully) which is all about how to improve your tennis level no matter where you are at in your game. It's going to be a game changer.
Thanks for checking in - took some time off to do lots of research and learn new ways to help all of you with your tennis games -- as well as working hard on creating a free community (coming up next week hopefully) which is all about how to improve your tennis level no matter where you are at in your game. It's going to be a game changer.
Big and consistent forehands are sexy. But you can't have either unless you have excellent footwork. And ya can't have consistently excellent footwork without excellent fitness. A 36 year old man played almost 5 hours of world class tennis and looked like he just finished a light practice. This is where matches are won and lost. Be more fit, be a better tennis player. Simple as that.
The windshield wiper is just a side effect of an externally rotated shoulder transitioning to an internally rotated shoulder, it should happen naturally. Some coaches have referenced the idea of 'turning a doorknob' with your hand, but this seems like bad advice since no active manipulation of the wrist should be happening at contact.
I agree with most of your points but the contact point, arm position and follow through are also driven by whether they are trying to hit down the line, cross court or inside out. So important to let viewers know you are comparing the intended shot along with the other variables being the same. Hope it’s not Apple to oranges comparison.
Truth. These guys adjust their swing to fit the circumstance. Although on average, due to their individual approaches to the game, the looks that were chosen for comparison can be considered to be relatively accurate. Alcarez more flat and Dj a bit more loopy.
please never stop making videos, you are thee best channel of tennis in youtube, it shows how you really want to help also. You have helped me a lot. Thank you very much
Thank you so much for your encouraging words and support!
Kevin you are such a great coach dude, your videos are always helping me to improve and remember the key things that I need to work on, thank you from Chile, South America.
Thank you for watching and so glad they have been helpful!
Great content! This is not related to this video, but I was hoping you'd take some time and arrange your work into playlists. You've done so much great work for over a decade and I personally appreciate it all. Sometimes, it's a bit hard to navigate the channel. I was looking on various bits you've done on improving the forehand, but it's a bit tough to sift through almost 300 videos just looking for only those about the forehand. You're probably too busy, but if you have the chance, it'd be nice to have organized playlists of what you've done. Otherwise, just want to say your work is appreciated! Thank you!
Thanks for the suggestion! I'll put that on my to do list because I want to make sure it's easier to find what you looking for on my channel. Thanks for your support
Alcaraz hits way more in front of him than Joker. Carlos drives the ball while Joker's forehand is really based on redirection so he doesn't expend energy to swing out. This was his problem at Wimbledon when the Alcaraz used the wind to give Joker a ton of dead balls and Joker made a ton of errors trying to drive the ball back. One of my hitting partners effectively redirects my pace and so sometimes I give her dead balls to work with and it frustrates her greatly. It's a great tactic for these players who don't generate their own pace.
Yes, actually I think you articulated this way better than I did. Appreciate that. Might have to have you help me on my next video. thanks!!
Djokovic is likely right eye dominant, which means he cannot see a forehand ball until it is further back, and Alcaraz is likely left eye dominant, so he has to hit it out in front before it gets past his left eye. Good Coaches teach this way based on eye dominance, which is why it’s important to find out which eye is dominant before trying to copy your favorite player’s strokes. They are different for a few reasons.
Thanks so much for the videos. They are really helping me.
But can you please do one on body weight management for forehand and double backhand.
I am still confused on where I should place my weight in my feet before, during and after a shot.
There are lots of different opinions.
Please do a video on this. Thx!
Enjoyed the analysis. Question.
I was looking though your videos but couldn't find how to play high balls for one handed backhands. Any tips or a video?
Great content as always 💪🏻💪🏻
Love the content! Feels like we’re in the library though :)
Does that much follow through still apply on shots that aren’t originating from 6’ behind the baseline? For closer in or even approach shots, how would all that forward momentum vs just windshield wiping be adjusted?
It's adjustable depending on the shot. If you need more penetration from behind the baseline you swing is going to be more linear and if you need more topspin your swing will be more vertical causing more of that windshield wiper action after contact.
@Total Tennis Domination
Hi, I would like to ask you or someone who understands, to explain one thing to me, I have been playing tennis professionally and I have been training it for two years, let's say I have been playing recreationally, I play with Babolat Pure Drive 315 g, I have been reading and watching about rackets for a long time and I'm thinking of switching to Head, because I'm missing that kind of control in the exchanges, and now I'm really undecided between Gravi typro or Speed pro, or other racket so I'm interested in the opinion of which racket might be better suited?
Which forehand backswing gives more power Alcaraz or Djokovic¿?
Given that Alcaraz had about 3150 average topspin rpm on his forehand vs. Djokovic about 2850 rpm I don’t think the Djokovic clip is representative. I think you are seeing a steeper follow through due to hitting with a bent elbow but unless there’s a big difference in racquet face angle the swing path through contact is probably very similar with Alcaraz getting more topspin due to more racquet head speed and a bit lower racquet drop.
I totally agree with your comment on the top spin RPMs. What I was trying to articulate @twinwankel did better then I did. Novak's ability to use for hand in redirect players Power is phenomenal. He doesn't create same level of racquet speed like Alcaraz. Which means he wouldn't have a higher number of topspin RPMs but would have a steeper swing path due to bent arm and redirecting the ball. But again like I said in the video this is one many situation's players could find themselves and must adjust to for different balls to stay consistent in difference situations. Really appreciate your feedback. Big Thanks
@@TotalTennisDomination it is actually a pretty significant difference in topspin so I still think you are seeing the meaningless follow through rather than the swing path just before contact. It is the swing path into contact relative to the racquet face angle that creates the topspin. I don’t think these clips are representative as Carlos tends to “loop” his forehand more often than Djokovic even though he does flatten it out pretty spectacularly at times. In general, Djokovic hits a flatter forehand than Alcaraz and therefore tends to have a flatter swing regardless of the follow through.
Looks to me like Alcaraz is left eye dominant, and Djokovic is likely right eye dominant. Right eye dominant players tend to have more of an open position at contact and left eye dominant players will have a more closed stance at contact. It’s more important to find out which eye is dominant to know how you should hit the ball. If you are right eye dominant, you do not want to copy a left eye dominant players forehand and vice versa.
Hey Kevin, Great Videos. Which Radical racket do you Play. The MP or Pro? Any customizations? And which gripsize do you play? 😃 Best wishes Sepp
Head Radical MP and 4 1/4 grip
I love your channel and I love your work. But I think you missed it on this one. I struggle with this with my tennis coach, who also suggests coming up on the ball to generate more top spin. And looking at this video reaffirms my disagreement. The swing path of both Djokovic and Alcarez are relatively linear. There might be a slightly upward trajectory, and that makes sense because you have to hit up at least a little bit on the ball but if you look at the humerus, elbow, and even the wrist , the swing past is relatively linear, pretty, conversely, the internal and external rotation of the arm through contact, lifts the tennis racket. So I guess you have to be in two different camps. An upward swinging camp or a windshield wiper camp. I’m of the internal external rotation of the humorous camp which by default means. I guess I’m a windshield wiper.
First of all things for watching the channel. Second of all I don't necessarily think players have to choose a camp. The main principle is a linear swing create penetration add a porch swing create a degree of top spin. When we look at the pros at the highest level you're going to see more of a linear swing from all of them for the typical type of ball they hit which is only 3 to 5 feet over the net versus most recreational players. In my mind understanding that then there's a choice of what you're going to use to create the penetration and vertical swing. This can be done using internal and external show the rotation or simply lifting your shoulder or combination of both. To make it clear I think we both agree that there is a linear swing with slight vertical motion to create top spin. What part of your body feels comfortable doing it is for the individual player to decide. This is what makes tennis so wonderful is because there's no one exact way to hit the ball and we all choose what feels comfortable for us personally. Thanks for watching and commenting.
@@TotalTennisDomination Thank you for the insightful reply. Again, I love the channel and it's thrilling to get a reply. If we are to assume that Djokovic/Alcaraz are the "ideal", would it be fair to say that they are windshield wipers? Obviously the rec level player doesn't have timing/strength/training/flexibilty to copy this. By hitting up on the ball with the face parallel to the net, is this creating sheer forces that spin the ball? Is this a "rec level cheat code" to generate the topspin without having to deal with the internal / external rotation of the windshield wiper school of thought? Many thanks.
I wonder what happened to our host ? ... 5 months now ... I hope this post finds you well.
Doing good - took some time off to do lots of research and learn new ways to help all of you with your tennis games -- as well as working hard on creating a free community (coming up next week hopefully) which is all about how to improve your tennis level no matter where you are at in your game. It's going to be a game changer.
Thanks for the reply ! I love your tutorials ! Glad to see you are doing well ! @@TotalTennisDomination
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Thanks for checking in - took some time off to do lots of research and learn new ways to help all of you with your tennis games -- as well as working hard on creating a free community (coming up next week hopefully) which is all about how to improve your tennis level no matter where you are at in your game. It's going to be a game changer.
Coil & uncoiling is VERY DIFFICULT to be done by me in my fore-hand shots😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
Does extended arm have more potential for injury than bent one?
I personally don't think so. It's a technical preference that some players develop during the developmental stage tennis.
Big and consistent forehands are sexy. But you can't have either unless you have excellent footwork. And ya can't have consistently excellent footwork without excellent fitness. A 36 year old man played almost 5 hours of world class tennis and looked like he just finished a light practice. This is where matches are won and lost. Be more fit, be a better tennis player. Simple as that.
The windshield wiper is just a side effect of an externally rotated shoulder transitioning to an internally rotated shoulder, it should happen naturally. Some coaches have referenced the idea of 'turning a doorknob' with your hand, but this seems like bad advice since no active manipulation of the wrist should be happening at contact.
Where's Mr Kevin?
Here I am...Thanks
Alcaraz's forehand average forehand RPM is a good bit higher than that of Djokovic (2950 vs 2700) so what you say at 01:41 is not really the case.
What software are you using to move the video and draw in it?
The old version of coaches eye.
Top-Spin shots ACTUALLY does fall "in" even in singles when the swing is reallyyyy CORRECT 😃😃😃
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I agree with most of your points but the contact point, arm position and follow through are also driven by whether they are trying to hit down the line, cross court or inside out.
So important to let viewers know you are comparing the intended shot along with the other variables being the same.
Hope it’s not Apple to oranges comparison.
I agree and keep that in mind for the future. Thanks
Truth. These guys adjust their swing to fit the circumstance. Although on average, due to their individual approaches to the game, the looks that were chosen for comparison can be considered to be relatively accurate. Alcarez more flat and Dj a bit more loopy.