I never comment but dude thanks. Been riding with this engine for years and never knew certain things. Especially with the reverse! I used to turn 180 degrees because i thought it had no reverse. That’s so convenient
Crazy reliability. Great motor. Powers like a 3hp. Noisy, and emits a lot of heat if you are moving slowly with the wind. But so simple. I don’t even need it right now, but will never sell it.
I just bought a porte boat with this exact motor. Had a couple issues that i am working out. Your video is the bomb, gave me so much information I need. TY
I bought this motor in 2000 and the only trouble I have had is when I forget to run the carb. empty before storage for more than a few months. I always mix "Seafoam" in the gas and have never replaced any parts other than the spark plug and shear pins. It is the most reliable small gas motor I have ever had. I am very glad I didn't get the clutch model, it is a direct drive with fewer moving parts to break. On my 17' square back canoe at the slowest idle, it pushes the boat 2.2mph and I have gotten 25 miles on a tank (about 1 qt,) of gas running 90% of the time at the lowest idle, which is also a productive trolling speed for me. If I ever needed a new one, I would look at the other brands but would probably go with another Honda.
I'm in complete agreement with you. Other than high noise level, this motor is amazing. Yes you can go on all day fishing with a tank of gas, shame on those who go fishing with huge bass boats and burn through so much gas. Long live the small 4 strokes and electric motors.
@@photographiedynamic Agreed, since I mostly run at max low idle the noise isn't too bad, I do have a decimal meter but haven't thought to measure it,s sound levels at various speeds, I'll try to remember to do that next time I am out.
I got one of these many years ago as well. Very reliable, but also very loud. It's Honda's small generator motor. Forget about trout trolling speeds unless you are in a heavier boat than a Smokerccraft 16. The clutch goes into neutral and you either are stopping or going too fast for most trout fishing within a few seconds. There's no compromise. Also, they vibrate a lot as all single lungers do. Use a good electric and you'll catch more trout. Don't run it very long out of water. It is an air cooled powerhead, but the exhaust runs through plastic guides that will melt if the lower unit is not submerged. So always run it in a tank when adjusting anything. I use mine to power my Grumman canoe trimaran when there is no wind for sailing. It'll go up to 6mph at 75% throttle. More than that and it just cavitates. I like it a lot, but it does make me miss my old Tohatsu 3.5 as it was lighter at 24lbs rather than this one at 34lbs. Much quieter, too.
Hey guys. I have the same engine and I was wondering if you see water come out the weep hole that cools the exhaust, or is that in the water. I had another one that you could see water come out the weep hole, this one you can't, I may need an impeller. Thanks for any responses.
@@brettblack7049 this motor is air cooled only. No impeller, no water circulation. Makes it low maintenance. However dont use it if the temperature is above 30C.
@@photographiedynamic Thanks for the response. I was just looking at mine some more a min ago. I have it set up in a trash can, if I spray water into the weep hole on the top of the shaft it will flow water back out, but it isn't flowing/drawing water from the bottom. So I removed it from the trash can and I can see what looks to be pieces of the impeller in the intake holes(three holes on either side of the lower portion of the shaft). I've been reading and it seems that many of the early models had a water cooled engine, then just a water cooled shaft exhaust. One guy on a forum said he had been running his without the impeller working for quite a while without any ill effects. I may run it today for a bit and then order the parts tonight. I have a friend who repairs boats in Wisconson I can call as well so I'll probably give him a call tonight or tomorrow. Thanks again for the response.
@@brettblack7049 Any water intake/exhaust ports will be under the anti-cavitation plate on the lower unit. There is no actual tell tale hole as far as I know. Mine is a 2006 and the manual mentions not running it out of water or the plastic parts supporting the exhaust pipe can melt.
Amazing little motor. I’ve been using mine with my inflatable Sea Eagle paddle ski since 2010. Nice simple propeller shear pins if you know they exist. 😜. Ask me how I know... there is a spare pin holder on the motor.
I have one but struggle with checking oil. I very carefully filled with 250ml as per instructions but the view level checker varies between empty or overfly just by moving the motor angle a tiny amount. How can you check if motor is level?
Steve I know exactly what you mean, it is a pain to check the oil. But over the years I just go approximately with it. I hold the motor upright, then I lean it towards me as I look into the oil gauge, then I lean it the opposite way (each time, slowly at small angles) and I just make sure so see oil in there. I trust my motor as it doesn't burn any oil and change the oil at least twice a year. This way I know it has the needed amount of oil. But I do check the oil before every outings.
Hello, no I never flush my motor as I use it in fresh water. However if you use in in salt water, it might be a good idea to fill up a deep bucket with fresh water and dip the foot of the motor in and out a few times to eliminate salts.
You can go as deep as you want, as long as the motor doesn't get wet. But the opposite is not true. The propeller should at least 30cm (1 foot) under water otherwise the exhaust will overheat the propeller gears. This motor is air cooled so there is no impeller circulating water in the motor.
We run these motors in Hawaii with little to no problems, and it is almost always hotter than 30 Celsius. Saying that... I have to disagree with your assumption that you should not run in temperatures hotter than 30.
You know what? Another person challenged what I said and asked for reference. I searched all the web and user manual and I was not able to find, althought I am sure to have read it somewhere. I'm glad it works at +30C since we get about 10 such days per year here in Montreal. Hawai eyy? You making me jealous :) Enjoy the ocean on my behalf. Due to covid I haven't had the chance to go to the ocean :(
The outboard has a single centrifugal clutch. When you start at low speed prop does not turn, as you increase the rpm the prop engages and rotates. No reverse.
Would work wonderfully. I alos use it on my friends 12 ft aluminium boat for musky fishing. We troll all day at 3-4 knots. Refuel every 3-4 hours or each 10 km we navigate. No fumes no smell, just a bit loud.
@@photographiedynamic yes i heard they are loud i wonder if anything can be done about that , thats what i fish is musky , thanks for reply , what if i want to put a casting deck.on the 12 foot will it affect the motor tok much thanks
@@ticesine6589 If you were to add more weight onto the 12 foot boat it will still work well as I also use it on my 16 foot sailboat which weighs 600 lbs... This being a four stroke motor, it has a lot of torque.
Where did you hear about the 30 degrees C ( 86 degrees F ) that you not able to use the engine? Nowhere in my Honda 2.3 Manuel does it say that . and I consulted with a Honda dealership and they told me they have never heard of that problem.
I did right after the @!$=× recording stopped because there was no more space left. However I have other video running a rowboat and a sailboat. Thanks for comment.
I never comment but dude thanks. Been riding with this engine for years and never knew certain things. Especially with the reverse! I used to turn 180 degrees because i thought it had no reverse. That’s so convenient
Crazy reliability. Great motor. Powers like a 3hp. Noisy, and emits a lot of heat if you are moving slowly with the wind. But so simple. I don’t even need it right now, but will never sell it.
I just bought a porte boat with this exact motor. Had a couple issues that i am working out. Your video is the bomb, gave me so much information I need. TY
thank you for commenting. Take good care of your motor, and it will treat you well, for a long time. Enjoy!
I want yamaha 9.9 wen I grow up today I'm 8 years old
I bought this motor in 2000 and the only trouble I have had is when I forget to run the carb. empty before storage for more than a few months. I always mix "Seafoam" in the gas and have never replaced any parts other than the spark plug and shear pins. It is the most reliable small gas motor I have ever had.
I am very glad I didn't get the clutch model, it is a direct drive with fewer moving parts to break. On my 17' square back canoe at the slowest idle, it pushes the boat 2.2mph and I have gotten 25 miles on a tank (about 1 qt,) of gas running 90% of the time at the lowest idle, which is also a productive trolling speed for me.
If I ever needed a new one, I would look at the other brands but would probably go with another Honda.
I'm in complete agreement with you. Other than high noise level, this motor is amazing. Yes you can go on all day fishing with a tank of gas, shame on those who go fishing with huge bass boats and burn through so much gas. Long live the small 4 strokes and electric motors.
@@photographiedynamic Agreed, since I mostly run at max low idle the noise isn't too bad, I do have a decimal meter but haven't thought to measure it,s sound levels at various speeds, I'll try to remember to do that next time I am out.
Do. Not. Use. Seafoam.
The Honda marine tech told me to "never ever use that garbage." He recommends Mercury Quickare additive.
I got one of these many years ago as well. Very reliable, but also very loud. It's Honda's small generator motor. Forget about trout trolling speeds unless you are in a heavier boat than a Smokerccraft 16. The clutch goes into neutral and you either are stopping or going too fast for most trout fishing within a few seconds. There's no compromise. Also, they vibrate a lot as all single lungers do. Use a good electric and you'll catch more trout.
Don't run it very long out of water. It is an air cooled powerhead, but the exhaust runs through plastic guides that will melt if the lower unit is not submerged. So always run it in a tank when adjusting anything. I use mine to power my Grumman canoe trimaran when there is no wind for sailing. It'll go up to 6mph at 75% throttle. More than that and it just cavitates. I like it a lot, but it does make me miss my old Tohatsu 3.5 as it was lighter at 24lbs rather than this one at 34lbs. Much quieter, too.
excellent review! I also use my electric motor to troll for slower fish and when I want peace and quite.
Hey guys.
I have the same engine and I was wondering if you see water come out the weep hole that cools the exhaust, or is that in the water. I had another one that you could see water come out the weep hole, this one you can't, I may need an impeller.
Thanks for any responses.
@@brettblack7049 this motor is air cooled only. No impeller, no water circulation. Makes it low maintenance. However dont use it if the temperature is above 30C.
@@photographiedynamic Thanks for the response.
I was just looking at mine some more a min ago. I have it set up in a trash can, if I spray water into the weep hole on the top of the shaft it will flow water back out, but it isn't flowing/drawing water from the bottom. So I removed it from the trash can and I can see what looks to be pieces of the impeller in the intake holes(three holes on either side of the lower portion of the shaft). I've been reading and it seems that many of the early models had a water cooled engine, then just a water cooled shaft exhaust. One guy on a forum said he had been running his without the impeller working for quite a while without any ill effects.
I may run it today for a bit and then order the parts tonight.
I have a friend who repairs boats in Wisconson I can call as well so I'll probably give him a call tonight or tomorrow.
Thanks again for the response.
@@brettblack7049 Any water intake/exhaust ports will be under the anti-cavitation plate on the lower unit. There is no actual tell tale hole as far as I know. Mine is a 2006 and the manual mentions not running it out of water or the plastic parts supporting the exhaust pipe can melt.
Thank you!!! I bought a used one and I truly needed this video. I appreciate you sharing it
My pleasure. thanks for comment!
I have this as a small lake motor for my Grumman 19’ Canoe . Honda makes a excellent boat motor .
Amazing little motor. I’ve been using mine with my inflatable Sea Eagle paddle ski since 2010. Nice simple propeller shear pins if you know they exist. 😜. Ask me how I know... there is a spare pin holder on the motor.
Just bought one. Subbed.
You must look forward to use it. I still have to wait 10 weeks before I can use mine again. Enjoy.
Enjoy it. I've had mine since 2018. Just did all necessary maintenance and now ready to hit the water! Luv it! Cheers.
Hey i have the same motor but i have some issues with a leek in oil or gasoline could Any body help me out ?? Any help is apreciated
I have one but struggle with checking oil. I very carefully filled with 250ml as per instructions but the view level checker varies between empty or overfly just by moving the motor angle a tiny amount. How can you check if motor is level?
Steve I know exactly what you mean, it is a pain to check the oil. But over the years I just go approximately with it. I hold the motor upright, then I lean it towards me as I look into the oil gauge, then I lean it the opposite way (each time, slowly at small angles) and I just make sure so see oil in there. I trust my motor as it doesn't burn any oil and change the oil at least twice a year. This way I know it has the needed amount of oil. But I do check the oil before every outings.
Great lil motor my friend has one
I get up to 11mph on my 17' square stern grumman. Average 8mph. Great motor.
Use this on a 3.3m aluminium fishing boat, pushes 2 adults at about 8knots full throttle
Yeah that sounds right, although it must be so loud. I often wear earmuffs if I troll for long periods.
hey do you still flush your motor with fresh water even tho its air-cooled?
Hello, no I never flush my motor as I use it in fresh water. However if you use in in salt water, it might be a good idea to fill up a deep bucket with fresh water and dip the foot of the motor in and out a few times to eliminate salts.
great video thanks for the info very useful
Who dislikes this kind of content? Be nice to each other. Its not hard....
Hi, I don't see the water mark on the shaft. how deep is too deep for the shaft?
You can go as deep as you want, as long as the motor doesn't get wet. But the opposite is not true. The propeller should at least 30cm (1 foot) under water otherwise the exhaust will overheat the propeller gears. This motor is air cooled so there is no impeller circulating water in the motor.
Manual say that the cavity plate need to be 15 cm under the water.
great review. Thanks for the detailed look at this motor
Are there extra cotter and shear pins attached on this outboard motor? If so where are they?
Underneath the cowling right of the choke.
We run these motors in Hawaii with little to no problems, and it is almost always hotter than 30 Celsius. Saying that... I have to disagree with your assumption that you should not run in temperatures hotter than 30.
You know what? Another person challenged what I said and asked for reference. I searched all the web and user manual and I was not able to find, althought I am sure to have read it somewhere. I'm glad it works at +30C since we get about 10 such days per year here in Montreal. Hawai eyy? You making me jealous :) Enjoy the ocean on my behalf. Due to covid I haven't had the chance to go to the ocean :(
@@photographiedynamic Owners manual: cdn.powerequipment.honda.com/marine/pdf/manuals/31ZW6603.pdf
It's a lawn mower. Run it at any temp.
Is there an easy way to hook up an external gas tank? I don't see any place for a quick connect fuel line.
Don't need an external tank as a full tank will last you well over 3 hours at mid throttel.
You must replace the gas cap with a siphon style cap and hose to a tank.
Not a scratch on it. How careful are you handling this little guy and carrying it about?
All my belongings are treated with utmost respect. Thanks for noticing and commenting :)
Can you hook this motor to a big boat gas tank? Will it only take gas from the tank , or can add a extra gas tank? Thanks and take care.
There must be a way however it can run on a full tank for 2-3 hours.
@@photographiedynamic Thanks
I believe that it only has an internal tank. Modification always possible of course
Bonjour , ce moteurs et bien un 4 temps ?
Merci de la reponse
Oui c'est un 4 temps.
How many clutches have you put in it
The outboard has a single centrifugal clutch. When you start at low speed prop does not turn, as you increase the rpm the prop engages and rotates. No reverse.
@@photographiedynamic I was asking if you ever had to replace the clutch the answer is no,thats good service
@@jc6850 never had an issue with it, hope I will never have to :)
What do you think this would be like on a 12 ft aluminum ? Thanks
Would work wonderfully. I alos use it on my friends 12 ft aluminium boat for musky fishing. We troll all day at 3-4 knots. Refuel every 3-4 hours or each 10 km we navigate. No fumes no smell, just a bit loud.
@@photographiedynamic yes i heard they are loud i wonder if anything can be done about that , thats what i fish is musky , thanks for reply , what if i want to put a casting deck.on the 12 foot will it affect the motor tok much thanks
@@ticesine6589 If you were to add more weight onto the 12 foot boat it will still work well as I also use it on my 16 foot sailboat which weighs 600 lbs... This being a four stroke motor, it has a lot of torque.
it will be awsome
This engine works great on my 12' aluminum Harbour Craft V Hull. Never looked back. 🎣😃
How much does it weigh please?
13 kg / 29.5 lbs
Nice. Is it about the same weight as a trolling motor?
it weights 30 lbs or 13.4 kg. It's a light motor but heavier than a 2 stroke 2hp motor.
ttxxdd id say it’s lighter since you don’t need the battery.
Where did you hear about the 30 degrees C ( 86 degrees F ) that you not able to use the engine? Nowhere in my Honda 2.3 Manuel does it say that . and I consulted with a Honda dealership and they told me they have never heard of that problem.
Probably water temp, not air temp.
It's air cooled. Run it at any temp. Like a lawn mower.
It's a 6hp on Nitro Methane
what is the model year ?
this one is 2012
Hello thats a great little outboard. Im trying to settle an argument with my gf. Do you have a french accent?
I have many accents my friend, but yes french is one of my language! Hope you get it, it's a nice little engine.
I want a mercury 5
How do u not start it...nice review otherwise.
I did right after the @!$=× recording stopped because there was no more space left. However I have other video running a rowboat and a sailboat. Thanks for comment.
just run the motor holy shit
Don't use regular gasoline, it's made for cars. Use Alkylate gasoline- It is better for your health and kinder to the engine as well.
i have engine use premium gas ? thanks jamie
@@jaywalker8309 use non oxygenated fuel
Noisy