I absolutely loved that green kill and felt every ounce of the righteous indignation you felt. I lived vicariously through your game for all the times I’ve been hassled incessantly by another player in this game and wanted nothing more than sweet revenge!
When I first started I was like green. I thought the goal of Risk was to hold as many bonuses as I could while also policing the board and making sure none of my neighbors had bonuses. Then I watched some of Pete and learned that you can't police the board. Then I played like pink and guarded my bonuses and didn't care what others did. Then I watched more of Pete and realized I could work with other players and be a good neighbor, that bonuses aren't as important in mid/late game progressive, and to not leave my cap unguarded. Now I would say I play like blue, maybe a bit too cautious and not always knowing when it is time to attack.
although blue didn't see that Pete was cardblocked by black, took it personal that Pete destroyed their bonus in oder to take a card and lined up their troops in retaliation for the break. So I think if you watched Pete that much you probably would have seen that Pete didn't have any options. Therefore I'd assume that you're better
No fog alows players to notice faster when you get really strong and greedy and is therefore negative for this kind of playstyle. It prolongs the game in many cases, cause it's easier to maintain a balance when everything is visible. It's not profitable anymore to have a good sense of what's going on behind the fog, to estimate how strong an enemy is, if you can get a kill. All these skills can't be used to set yourself apart from the less experienced players. In short, it makes the game less complex, which is a benefit to less experienced players, but a detriment for the topplayers.
Great game Pete! It was a pleasure watching your play _and your exceptionally honourable and _*_thoughtful_*_ personality,_ as always. Question for you: _why did you_ *CHECK* _to_ *VERIFY* _that the other player was live?_ As you pointed out: as soon as you *KNEW* that he was live (flawed) fair-play mandated surrender, _but prior to personal confirmation it was hearsay_ - *you did not **_KNOW_** that they were streaming!* Had been told? Absolutely! Strongly _suspected_ that the information was accurate? Probably. As far as I can tell, Fair Play makes no mention of ~"unfair to play if you _suspect_ that you *_could_* cheat" - it would make no sense to do so, since that clause would mean that anyone who had imagined (but never used, or even tested the viability of) a way of cheating could never play... I look forward to hearing your thoughts. _THANK YOU again for your work_ ❤ Edit: improved formatting
You make a good point. I joined his game, ironically because I'd been getting sniped a bit recently. I hear someone in my chat claim I'm facing him, I want to verify the claim. I got nothing against Secsi and definitely don't want to be sniping his game so once I found out I was I backed down. It's worth more to me than maybe winning one individual game.
@@FreePete Ah! Either you or I have a misconception of 'sniping.' _I_ have always understood it to mean "gaining an advantage by viewing another player's screen while you're in the same game." By _my_ understanding you would not have been 'sniping' if you continued playing _as long as you were not simultaneously watching his stream._ For clarity (and because I know we're both lovers of nuance 😁): an arguement could be made in a game with fog that even momentarily seeing the other person's screen (as you seemingly did while verifying) would have given you an advantage, and therefore continuing to play (even without continuing to watch their screen) _would_ constitute 'sniping' (by my definition). Either way though, _had you never verified that they were live you would have been both Playing Fair (by SMG's definition) and _*_not_*_ sniping (by my definition). SMG's definition is obtuse - even if you had kept watching their stream, _even if you had been in their chat_ (assuming you weren't colluding there) *how would that have given either of you an advantage over the other players?????* 🤦🏾♂️
This is the argument of lawyers and politicians. Nobody believes them, and rightly so. If you value your own integrity then the standard of evidence is much higher.
Every time I play with others online, I get bad neighbors like Green that won't let me hold on to anything. It's why I stopped, and haven't bothered with ranked ever. I've just been playing against four or five expert bots and having fun doing that. So it was very helpful watching how you handled green and very god damn satisfying watching his ass go down.
Very strange that black never hit green in Russia once the entire game, but once he saw you had it he crushed you. Were black and green the same person?
I do not understand why you stopped playing. It was just getting interesting. I know there's a streamer that goes by "Secsi", (what a childish handle) but so what? You were anonymous and didn't know. How can you cheat if there's no fog?
Hi Pete, long time fan and active viewer of your videos on both channels. I was wondering if you could create a (Risk Meta Settings) tutorial or beginners guide for these particular settings. I think a lot of people would find this super helpful and appreciate this. P.S if you have made one before and I have missed it, apologies in advance.
As soon as I saw the chat talking about another player being a streamer I knew... Pete asks which color and I'm like this man is about to quit the game. Guys, if anyone reads this. Never tell a streamer information on opponents in competitive play. It not only ruins the stream, it puts the streamer in a terrible position in regards to morality and risks getting them in trouble for cheating. Please, just sit back and watch until matches/games are over and then enjoy the fact you got to watch the action from 2 angles.
Hey pete. Couple of questions... 1. I thought it was only fog games where what happened could be considered cheating. With no fog and no communication other then what is in the game in terms of emotes, how can SMG consider it cheating? 2. Does that mean if you played someone in a tournament game such as Kyle, Spud or Jj then technically by these rules you are cheating? If you/we/SMG want to have a risk community then this rule is counter productive. Top players will never get to play other top players.
1) someone in another comment said that the opportunity to communicate outside the game is enough. (Makes sense for normal players, with streamers that are monitored(!) and video/chat evidence... idk.) 2) These rules don't apply to play with friends games. I think in tournament games there is a "code of honor" that applies. But yes, that'd be considered cheating by these rules.
Hello, when you say somebody makes bad decisions, it would be really interesting for me as the a viewer what the alternatives where, especially when placing caps.
Do you think you're the streamer was collaborating with blue or magenta? Both of Blue's and Magenta's turns were weird starting at 40:15. Magenta could of cleared Black out of the Orient , and then Blue had that weird off stack off the capital.
It's possible magenta was just watching and waiting for Pete to smash black the same way he did to green. And blue was kind of stuck and probably didn't want to make themself a target.
getting to kill green, count that game as a win. too bad the streamer spoiler looked to suck the wind from your sails for the evening. Better Luck next time!
Players are not allowed to have any external communication in a Ranked Game; even if it's only the capability. Once Pete knew there was another streamer in the game, they technically could have watched the either's stream and had external communication.
@@Kryogenikz15 Your interpretation is interesting, but I don't think it's accurate. By your explanation, then nobody can ever play Pete, or any other streamer.
Genuine question. Why do you break others (As I would expect because it's necessary to win the game) but you get so offended when others do it to you? I enjoy your videos but periodically I see your extreme reaction and it confuses me.
It’s all about the context. Pete breaks when he needs to not just because he wants too, often he gets broken by greedy players who throw their own game and well as Pete’s.
There are different reasons for why to break and when to break. Generally the question is "who profits?" and given that his in NOT a team game, the assumption is that you break others solely for your own benefit - unless you're acting in retaliation/revenge. So I'm assuming Pete's reasoning here is that starting a war is not profitable for the players involved - thus he "gets offended". If Green had been forced to break his bonus to take a card or had broken because Pete had been too far ahead, or because it had been fog of war etc., I'm assuming he'd have cared much less about that. He even partially addressed the issue in this video: "don't be afraid to let others get (additional) troops as long as they aren't pointed at you".
That's almost certainly a mistake. Since most of my opponents are holding bonuses and I'm not me skipping encourages them to skip and if they skip they're banking way more troops before the sets start to increase (which is how no-bonus players catch up in progressive)
In light of this video. If you ever recognize me in a game, know i am not stream sniping. I do not read names, i just find a lobby with settings i like and join.
"Playing with someone you know in Ranked or Casual Public games is cheating. Don't play with anyone you know or have external communication with in Ranked or Casual Public games. Use casual Private or risk a ban!" If you know the streamer and they know you then it's cheating according to SMG's rules. Best not to take chances on this when it's quite literally your livelihood. The moment you know that a particular player is someone you know it will affect how you play. Someone in chat ruined it for both streamers because it sounds like they told Secsi then jumped in Pete's chat to tell him.
It wasn't only that he was known he was also live. I could have watched his game. And he explained to me that he recently switch to a more aggressive playstyle where he is aggressive to his best opponent to help keep the game from stalemating. The winrate is lower but the games are more dynamic.
@@FreePete ahh I gotcha. No I understood why you left. It’s a shame though it was a very entertaining game. My favorite games of yours to watch aren’t even the ones you win just the ones you make someone else die who has been a prick the whole game. It’s just so satisfying 😂
It's SMG's rules: "Playing with someone you know in Ranked or Casual Public games is cheating. Don't play with anyone you know or have external communication with in Ranked or Casual Public games. Use casual Private or risk a ban!" If you know the streamer and they know you then it's cheating according to SMG's rules. Best not to take chances on this if it's quite literally your livelihood. The moment you know that a particular player is someone you know it will affect how you play. Someone in chat ruined it for both streamers because it sounds like they told Secsi then jumped in Pete's chat to tell him.
Pete "Ladies and gentleman, sometimes I'm a vengeful man."
Me who's watched over a 1000 hours of Pete's show: "Sometimes?"
Haha. We all knew green was gonna taste it
Oh yes, never a matter of it, only when!@@FreePete
I absolutely loved that green kill and felt every ounce of the righteous indignation you felt. I lived vicariously through your game for all the times I’ve been hassled incessantly by another player in this game and wanted nothing more than sweet revenge!
Haha! Thanks man. We got him!!!
When I first started I was like green. I thought the goal of Risk was to hold as many bonuses as I could while also policing the board and making sure none of my neighbors had bonuses. Then I watched some of Pete and learned that you can't police the board. Then I played like pink and guarded my bonuses and didn't care what others did. Then I watched more of Pete and realized I could work with other players and be a good neighbor, that bonuses aren't as important in mid/late game progressive, and to not leave my cap unguarded. Now I would say I play like blue, maybe a bit too cautious and not always knowing when it is time to attack.
although blue didn't see that Pete was cardblocked by black, took it personal that Pete destroyed their bonus in oder to take a card and lined up their troops in retaliation for the break. So I think if you watched Pete that much you probably would have seen that Pete didn't have any options. Therefore I'd assume that you're better
You dropped that game like a hot potato! I was like, "whaaaa?!?!"
Then you explained it 🤪.
Good video.
Pete you are a true gamer you know that your word and what you are known for means literally everything
In games and in life.
OMG ...this is one of the best replays... love it...that move to destroy the green ...biggest FU ...love it
Haha he had it coming!
I appreciate you putting this up, it never even occurred to me not to say anything in chat!
This is the type of vengeful content I come here for, Pete the board Batman.
No fog alows players to notice faster when you get really strong and greedy and is therefore negative for this kind of playstyle.
It prolongs the game in many cases, cause it's easier to maintain a balance when everything is visible.
It's not profitable anymore to have a good sense of what's going on behind the fog, to estimate how strong an enemy is, if you can get a kill. All these skills can't be used to set yourself apart from the less experienced players.
In short, it makes the game less complex, which is a benefit to less experienced players, but a detriment for the topplayers.
Great game Pete! It was a pleasure watching your play _and your exceptionally honourable and _*_thoughtful_*_ personality,_ as always.
Question for you: _why did you_ *CHECK* _to_ *VERIFY* _that the other player was live?_ As you pointed out: as soon as you *KNEW* that he was live (flawed) fair-play mandated surrender, _but prior to personal confirmation it was hearsay_ - *you did not **_KNOW_** that they were streaming!*
Had been told? Absolutely!
Strongly _suspected_ that the information was accurate? Probably.
As far as I can tell, Fair Play makes no mention of ~"unfair to play if you _suspect_ that you *_could_* cheat" - it would make no sense to do so, since that clause would mean that anyone who had imagined (but never used, or even tested the viability of) a way of cheating could never play...
I look forward to hearing your thoughts.
_THANK YOU again for your work_
❤
Edit: improved formatting
You make a good point.
I joined his game, ironically because I'd been getting sniped a bit recently. I hear someone in my chat claim I'm facing him, I want to verify the claim. I got nothing against Secsi and definitely don't want to be sniping his game so once I found out I was I backed down. It's worth more to me than maybe winning one individual game.
@@FreePete Ah! Either you or I have a misconception of 'sniping.' _I_ have always understood it to mean "gaining an advantage by viewing another player's screen while you're in the same game."
By _my_ understanding you would not have been 'sniping' if you continued playing _as long as you were not simultaneously watching his stream._
For clarity (and because I know we're both lovers of nuance 😁): an arguement could be made in a game with fog that even momentarily seeing the other person's screen (as you seemingly did while verifying) would have given you an advantage, and therefore continuing to play (even without continuing to watch their screen) _would_ constitute 'sniping' (by my definition). Either way though, _had you never verified that they were live you would have been both Playing Fair (by SMG's definition) and _*_not_*_ sniping (by my definition). SMG's definition is obtuse - even if you had kept watching their stream, _even if you had been in their chat_ (assuming you weren't colluding there) *how would that have given either of you an advantage over the other players?????*
🤦🏾♂️
This is the argument of lawyers and politicians. Nobody believes them, and rightly so. If you value your own integrity then the standard of evidence is much higher.
This game was insane! Even though you didn't win the game, you won the 1v1 vs Green and it was worth it! 👌👌😌
Vibes from the film 300 here.
‘Oh I’ve chosen my words carefully Persian. Perhaps you should have done the same!’
I LOVE IT!!! 34:35!!!😂😂😂
Go Peteman!!!💪🏻🤣
Every time I play with others online, I get bad neighbors like Green that won't let me hold on to anything. It's why I stopped, and haven't bothered with ranked ever. I've just been playing against four or five expert bots and having fun doing that.
So it was very helpful watching how you handled green and very god damn satisfying watching his ass go down.
red just worked out his bonus is split 9:23 🤣
Very strange that black never hit green in Russia once the entire game, but once he saw you had it he crushed you. Were black and green the same person?
I do not understand why you stopped playing. It was just getting interesting. I know there's a streamer that goes by "Secsi", (what a childish handle) but so what? You were anonymous and didn't know. How can you cheat if there's no fog?
I didn't know until I did.
The way the rules are written is they don't care if you do cheat. They care if you can.
Love the intensity Pete!!!!
Insane Game btw and the way of how you obliterated green was so awesome
haha yes indeed!
Real life risk and REAL LIFE RISK
greatest video of all time
Hi Pete, long time fan and active viewer of your videos on both channels. I was wondering if you could create a (Risk Meta Settings) tutorial or beginners guide for these particular settings. I think a lot of people would find this super helpful and appreciate this. P.S if you have made one before and I have missed it, apologies in advance.
I loved this idea and I shot it! I hope you enjoy
It’s unfortunate you weren’t able to finish the game but GODDAMN was it satisfying to see green die
It was!
It was awesome watching you massacre green, but sad to see you quit after black started card blocking you. You totally still had a chance to win!
I cheered when you killed Green. Blue and Red did help though as they broke Green a few times.
As soon as I saw the chat talking about another player being a streamer I knew... Pete asks which color and I'm like this man is about to quit the game. Guys, if anyone reads this. Never tell a streamer information on opponents in competitive play. It not only ruins the stream, it puts the streamer in a terrible position in regards to morality and risks getting them in trouble for cheating.
Please, just sit back and watch until matches/games are over and then enjoy the fact you got to watch the action from 2 angles.
I'm happy with how it all worked out ultimately which is why I still chose to put it up on YT
Very fun game indeed. :)@@FreePete
You are an inspiration. I love your energy. Thank you for doing what you do.
Thank you so much!
fair play is the play...have fun is the playstyle..good video
🙏🙏🙏
The moment you destory green is very satisfying 😂
Hey pete can you please explain what your thinking process is when you're taking a cap pls 😁
Damn that kill on Green felt GOOOOD.
It really did
I'm glad you got to kill green before finding out about black
Me too! 🤣🤣🤣
Hey pete. Couple of questions...
1. I thought it was only fog games where what happened could be considered cheating. With no fog and no communication other then what is in the game in terms of emotes, how can SMG consider it cheating?
2. Does that mean if you played someone in a tournament game such as Kyle, Spud or Jj then technically by these rules you are cheating?
If you/we/SMG want to have a risk community then this rule is counter productive. Top players will never get to play other top players.
1) someone in another comment said that the opportunity to communicate outside the game is enough. (Makes sense for normal players, with streamers that are monitored(!) and video/chat evidence... idk.)
2) These rules don't apply to play with friends games. I think in tournament games there is a "code of honor" that applies. But yes, that'd be considered cheating by these rules.
How do you sign up for the Risk Legends 5 tournament? I don't see it on the Friends of Risk page and no one on discord knew.
Hello, when you say somebody makes bad decisions, it would be really interesting for me as the a viewer what the alternatives where, especially when placing caps.
Do you think you're the streamer was collaborating with blue or magenta? Both of Blue's and Magenta's turns were weird starting at 40:15. Magenta could of cleared Black out of the Orient , and then Blue had that weird off stack off the capital.
It's possible magenta was just watching and waiting for Pete to smash black the same way he did to green. And blue was kind of stuck and probably didn't want to make themself a target.
Great game pete as always 👍🔥❤️❤️🔥
JUSTICE !!!
Great video Pete!
Ah, the risk of joining someone else's meta settings game and ending up in a live stream. This is not the risk we want to be taking!!
The irony here is that I only did it because I was getting sniped a bunch from hosting my own games. Can't win I suppose
Respect Button!
getting to kill green, count that game as a win. too bad the streamer spoiler looked to suck the wind from your sails for the evening. Better Luck next time!
Haha I think of it as a win too!
good play. wish chat didn't ruin it.
Spoiler Block
So what happened? Can someone explain why he quit and left the game?
explains @43:10 Somebody else was also streaming, so cheating was possible....ish . A bit exaggerated imo, but that's his reasoning to quit
Players are not allowed to have any external communication in a Ranked Game; even if it's only the capability. Once Pete knew there was another streamer in the game, they technically could have watched the either's stream and had external communication.
@frost__hammer So... Technically any content creator can be contacted so nobody should ever play them??
@@davidtalbot2061 No isn't just not allowed to play AND at the same time snipe a live stream of an opponent in the same game
@@Kryogenikz15 Your interpretation is interesting, but I don't think it's accurate. By your explanation, then nobody can ever play Pete, or any other streamer.
The best leaders always lead by example...
I worry about anyone following me 🤣🤣🤣
@@FreePete bah! plenty of worse people out there :D :D :D... joking aside... its good to have someone that people can relate to!
But if no one had told you it was a streamer then you could have kept playing right?
Yeah. It wasn't cheating until I knew
Black is new green 😂😂😂
All right, that's it. I was enjoying the game. Petition to ban chat! 😤
Why u quit ??
Genuine question. Why do you break others (As I would expect because it's necessary to win the game) but you get so offended when others do it to you?
I enjoy your videos but periodically I see your extreme reaction and it confuses me.
It’s all about the context. Pete breaks when he needs to not just because he wants too, often he gets broken by greedy players who throw their own game and well as Pete’s.
It's a matter of degree.
There are different reasons for why to break and when to break. Generally the question is "who profits?" and given that his in NOT a team game, the assumption is that you break others solely for your own benefit - unless you're acting in retaliation/revenge. So I'm assuming Pete's reasoning here is that starting a war is not profitable for the players involved - thus he "gets offended". If Green had been forced to break his bonus to take a card or had broken because Pete had been too far ahead, or because it had been fog of war etc., I'm assuming he'd have cared much less about that.
He even partially addressed the issue in this video: "don't be afraid to let others get (additional) troops as long as they aren't pointed at you".
Pete my girlfriend walked in on me watching this video when red broke green and thought I was watching p0rn. Thanks man.
haha don't blame me!
Lame, I was enjoying that.
Me too man
I would of card skipped here 14:55
That's almost certainly a mistake.
Since most of my opponents are holding bonuses and I'm not me skipping encourages them to skip and if they skip they're banking way more troops before the sets start to increase (which is how no-bonus players catch up in progressive)
In light of this video. If you ever recognize me in a game, know i am not stream sniping. I do not read names, i just find a lobby with settings i like and join.
Can't you just play the game without watching the stream of that dude?
"Playing with someone you know in Ranked or Casual Public games is cheating. Don't play with anyone you know or have external communication with in Ranked or Casual Public games. Use casual Private or risk a ban!" If you know the streamer and they know you then it's cheating according to SMG's rules. Best not to take chances on this when it's quite literally your livelihood.
The moment you know that a particular player is someone you know it will affect how you play. Someone in chat ruined it for both streamers because it sounds like they told Secsi then jumped in Pete's chat to tell him.
@@mattbiggs1992 Oh, so if Pete and Secsi both didn't know then it would have been okay to continue the game?
@@josephdahdouh2725 yes. The game was ruined as soon as that person in chat told them.
You said if would still feel like a dub if you lost. Didn't feel like a dub tho... 😅
I did successfully predict fifth though
😂😂😂Wp! @@FreePete
My favorite part was where you were shouting at red to f*ck green up his 4sshole 😉@@FreePete
😂🤣🤪😂20:39
God game
So black is well known and is supposed to be good? He was playing so bad though 😂
It wasn't only that he was known he was also live. I could have watched his game.
And he explained to me that he recently switch to a more aggressive playstyle where he is aggressive to his best opponent to help keep the game from stalemating. The winrate is lower but the games are more dynamic.
@@FreePete ahh I gotcha. No I understood why you left. It’s a shame though it was a very entertaining game. My favorite games of yours to watch aren’t even the ones you win just the ones you make someone else die who has been a prick the whole game. It’s just so satisfying 😂
@@FreePeteInteresting to hear that black knew you were in the game, but carried on playing…
I feel more obligated to quit since I joined his lobby@@Griffiths1
Yesterday Green was annoying and I wanted to encourage people to noob smash any green players they came across.
SPOILER BLOCK!!!
I don’t get how it’s cheating when you aren’t even watching his stream?
It's SMG's rules:
"Playing with someone you know in Ranked or Casual Public games is cheating. Don't play with anyone you know or have external communication with in Ranked or Casual Public games. Use casual Private or risk a ban!"
If you know the streamer and they know you then it's cheating according to SMG's rules. Best not to take chances on this if it's quite literally your livelihood.
The moment you know that a particular player is someone you know it will affect how you play. Someone in chat ruined it for both streamers because it sounds like they told Secsi then jumped in Pete's chat to tell him.