1. Anthony Daniels does all of the media portrayals of C-3PO, so technically he is in Star Tours 2. I don’t really understand the discussion of “if we have actors on screens for IPs it will be weird when people ride it in the future” If an actor plays a role for a film, it would make sense that their appearance in the attraction associated with that film would be the same. If a ride is updated, as long as people know that its associated with an IP regardless of year, they should be able to grasp that “This is what Actor looked like when this IP came out” I don’t think they would need to keep updating the rides videos with updated versions of the actors? it doesnt make sense to want to update the videos for rides with actors as they currently are. Its a piece of media in time, so age wouldnt affect it. ??????
The Mario Kart Ride will use animatronics. In fact, Nintendo asked for no character screens for their areas at Universal (most of it will be real scenery, and only parts to simulate the background passing at high speed will be screens). So lets see how they do with that. The technology going into the Mario Kart ride seems insane right now. And the slower Yoshy darkride will use normal animatronics also, and if the rumours are true, even the ride vehicle will have an animatornic yoshi head. If all this succeeds, maybe we see a different universal going forward.
I am super excited to find the piece you mentioned on Geauga Lake. As a kid, my family went to SeaWorld when they had big just-barely-animatronic Dinosaurs (I'm from the Pittsburgh area, so we were blasted by Geauga ads). Now living in California people don't believe me that there was a SeaWorld in Ohio.
I find it surprising that you watched Bright Sun Films. I also watched Jake's content before discovering this channel. I still watch BSF, and I find his latest content to be some of his most well-made. Jake has taken his intrests in decaying buildings into other videos and focused Abandoned on failed business ventures, especially cruise lines. I feel like there is an overlap between your audience and Jake's. I think most people aren't looking for specific content, but rather well-made informative content, which you both provide. You both also make videos about nostalgic places and the business decisions that doomed these same places. It's really cool hearing that your favorite UA-camrs watch each other and work off each other. :) P. S. What is your opinion on Dan Bell? For me, this is where my documentary UA-cam craze started!
When you guys mentioned how including footage of prominent actors/celebrities can eventually make an attraction awkward/outdated, I immediately thought of seeing Shaquille O'Neal in the T2: 3D pre-show wearing an Orlando Magic uniform...in 2004. Shaq went to LA a few months after T2 opened & may have already been traded to Miami by the time I saw the attraction.
There's rumors right now that Universal Hollywood will be getting their Jurassic park section rebranded as Jurassic World and imo that's not a very good idea. I live in Florida so I frequent the park here more often obviously and I strongly believe that the Florida park would benefit a lot more from an update like that considering the volume of people who go to the parks.
Gonna be honest tho... the first time I rode The Mummy might’ve been during soft opening. I was maybe 14 at the oldest... and I had no idea about the false ending. It was fun because it was one of the only Universal attractions I was unprepared for. But I guess it has aged.
12:12 I actually did go on Alien Encounter as a child and it traumatised the fuck out of me and my same-age cousin. It's an interesting ride conceptually, but placing what is very much a PG to adult ride in the middle of a super kid-friendly park was not smart; there's just too much mood-whiplash compared to the rest of the park. When we went again a few years later the rest went on it again while my mum took my cousin and I on something else instead.
I heard somewhere that they are planning on updating the Tomorrowland Speedway when they plop Tron into the Magic Kingdom. It's time they brought in some battery powered cars and create some theming there.
I was just randomly listening to this, and 35:25 in, Kevin you totally predicted the future with the way that Disney is leaning to lower capacity, immersive, expensive experiences... Or is that the 'it just sounded cool, I didn't predict anything' future predictions? 😂
As someone planning on moving to Florida the notion of getting rid of annual passes sort of frustrates me. Upping costs makes sense but don't get rid of the hardcore fans.
It actually makes me really happy that Disney hasn't managed to completely engulf Verne's stories they way they have Milne's. Disney's aim to perpetually monetize all stories, to the point of rewriting our copyright laws for its own benefit is a blight to the creativity of anyone not sanctioned by a massive media corporation, most notably the Mouse.
It is a rather ineterseting history over the years. I could episode focused on the Paramount Parks and their transformation. Growing up with Carowinds it was cool to see the park transform into what it is today.
I could not disagree more about the Tomorrowland observations. The Jules Verne Tomorrowland worked for Paris because it was so well done, but at the Magic Kingdom the Steampunk future looked like a lot of cheap appliques and tacky structures. Realizing their mistake, Disney is now removing a lot of the steampunk "decoration" -- but not enough in my opinion. 70s Tomorrowland would look fine with the new Tron canopy, which is still futuristic and would not look right at home in Manhattan -- maybe Beijing because everything in China is "bleeding edge" currently.
run away genrefacation and mybrandsmanship from business people in "marketing" who want to fell "creative" and have a pocket full of eye pees that they decided in the last meeting would best be worked into EXISTING PARK INFRASTRUCTURE!
i'm so glad i'm not the only one who hates the idea of putting tron in wdw's tomorrowland. seeing this giant ugly modern building next to space mountain and the 1994 50s style retrofuture architechture just ruins the whole themeing of tomorrowland and it makes me so upset since wdw's 1994 tomorrowland is my favorite absolute favorite land ever...
Please make a “fix the yeti” shirt; you have a willing customer right here.
1. Anthony Daniels does all of the media portrayals of C-3PO, so technically he is in Star Tours
2. I don’t really understand the discussion of “if we have actors on screens for IPs it will be weird when people ride it in the future”
If an actor plays a role for a film, it would make sense that their appearance in the attraction associated with that film would be the same. If a ride is updated, as long as people know that its associated with an IP regardless of year, they should be able to grasp that “This is what Actor looked like when this IP came out”
I don’t think they would need to keep updating the rides videos with updated versions of the actors?
it doesnt make sense to want to update the videos for rides with actors as they currently are.
Its a piece of media in time, so age wouldnt affect it.
??????
The Mario Kart Ride will use animatronics. In fact, Nintendo asked for no character screens for their areas at Universal (most of it will be real scenery, and only parts to simulate the background passing at high speed will be screens). So lets see how they do with that. The technology going into the Mario Kart ride seems insane right now. And the slower Yoshy darkride will use normal animatronics also, and if the rumours are true, even the ride vehicle will have an animatornic yoshi head.
If all this succeeds, maybe we see a different universal going forward.
You and everyone else has no fucking clue about the technology going into Mario Kart, Right Now!
I am super excited to find the piece you mentioned on Geauga Lake. As a kid, my family went to SeaWorld when they had big just-barely-animatronic Dinosaurs (I'm from the Pittsburgh area, so we were blasted by Geauga ads). Now living in California people don't believe me that there was a SeaWorld in Ohio.
Bob's Burgers also had a roboshark episode based on Jaws.
I find it surprising that you watched Bright Sun Films. I also watched Jake's content before discovering this channel. I still watch BSF, and I find his latest content to be some of his most well-made. Jake has taken his intrests in decaying buildings into other videos and focused Abandoned on failed business ventures, especially cruise lines. I feel like there is an overlap between your audience and Jake's. I think most people aren't looking for specific content, but rather well-made informative content, which you both provide. You both also make videos about nostalgic places and the business decisions that doomed these same places. It's really cool hearing that your favorite UA-camrs watch each other and work off each other. :)
P. S. What is your opinion on Dan Bell? For me, this is where my documentary UA-cam craze started!
Yesss Ban Bell is the shit
When you guys mentioned how including footage of prominent actors/celebrities can eventually make an attraction awkward/outdated, I immediately thought of seeing Shaquille O'Neal in the T2: 3D pre-show wearing an Orlando Magic uniform...in 2004. Shaq went to LA a few months after T2 opened & may have already been traded to Miami by the time I saw the attraction.
The article on the seaworld and six flags mega park was incredible!
Please tell me that “Fix the yeti” shirts are forthcoming!
There's rumors right now that Universal Hollywood will be getting their Jurassic park section rebranded as Jurassic World and imo that's not a very good idea. I live in Florida so I frequent the park here more often obviously and I strongly believe that the Florida park would benefit a lot more from an update like that considering the volume of people who go to the parks.
Probably my favorite new podcast
I’m so excited for the VR park to open! Can’t wait to climb on Dispatch Master Transport!
Defunctland is the only thing I have notifications for
I heard Geauga Lake and my heart dropped! RIP! I live 40 minutes from what was once GL and Wild Water Kingdom
Same
"It's not for the money, it's for the dreams!!!"
...and magic and dreams come at a price.
God Bless DEFUNCTLAND! Oh yeah, and America too...
Gonna be honest tho... the first time I rode The Mummy might’ve been during soft opening. I was maybe 14 at the oldest... and I had no idea about the false ending. It was fun because it was one of the only Universal attractions I was unprepared for. But I guess it has aged.
I always love when Ohio comes up! I have so many weird and delightful memories of Sea world and Geauga Lake!
Biff does Disney pop art now and he seems to do pretty well.
12:12 I actually did go on Alien Encounter as a child and it traumatised the fuck out of me and my same-age cousin. It's an interesting ride conceptually, but placing what is very much a PG to adult ride in the middle of a super kid-friendly park was not smart; there's just too much mood-whiplash compared to the rest of the park.
When we went again a few years later the rest went on it again while my mum took my cousin and I on something else instead.
Seriously dude, where's the episode on Disney Quest? Disney Quest was amazing and made my last trip there.
I am pumped for an immersive star wars land, themed rides and building are going to be an epic time for those who are into it.
Men in Black is my favorite ride at Universal 😎
I heard somewhere that they are planning on updating the Tomorrowland Speedway when they plop Tron into the Magic Kingdom. It's time they brought in some battery powered cars and create some theming there.
Feel like you could have link more of his projects
The theme is everything is bad, welcome to Defunctland!
Foxxy Hooves uploaded a Discovery Channel documentary about Pretzel/Dark rides.
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Kevin there is a book called the Disneyland encyclopedia that has information on everything that was in Disneyland and imagineers
I was just randomly listening to this, and 35:25 in, Kevin you totally predicted the future with the way that Disney is leaning to lower capacity, immersive, expensive experiences...
Or is that the 'it just sounded cool, I didn't predict anything' future predictions? 😂
As someone planning on moving to Florida the notion of getting rid of annual passes sort of frustrates me. Upping costs makes sense but don't get rid of the hardcore fans.
yay! more defunctland!
I would buy and wear a "fix the yeti" shirt
I'd like to see you do one on the old Astro-Liner ride.
Brastius what’s that ?
It was a simulator ride from the 70's. When I was a kid, I would ride that thing as much as I could when the fair came to town.
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It actually makes me really happy that Disney hasn't managed to completely engulf Verne's stories they way they have Milne's. Disney's aim to perpetually monetize all stories, to the point of rewriting our copyright laws for its own benefit is a blight to the creativity of anyone not sanctioned by a massive media corporation, most notably the Mouse.
Still hoping for an episode on Carowinds.
Thunder road is a rather simple ride history wise thi
I was gonna suggest the same thing. There's not that much to discuss there, but it's my local park so i'm biased.
Same
It is a rather ineterseting history over the years. I could episode focused on the Paramount Parks and their transformation. Growing up with Carowinds it was cool to see the park transform into what it is today.
lost an hour off my life and loved it.
I could not disagree more about the Tomorrowland observations. The Jules Verne Tomorrowland worked for Paris because it was so well done, but at the Magic Kingdom the Steampunk future looked like a lot of cheap appliques and tacky structures. Realizing their mistake, Disney is now removing a lot of the steampunk "decoration" -- but not enough in my opinion. 70s Tomorrowland would look fine with the new Tron canopy, which is still futuristic and would not look right at home in Manhattan -- maybe Beijing because everything in China is "bleeding edge" currently.
I used to go to Geauga lake all the time. That Brian guy sounds really cute!
Awesome
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Are you going to do non-American rides one episode?
Kate Bottley what’s there to do lol
He’s stated that there is at least one international ride in season 2
He could do the Alton Towers Corkscrew
Brandon a lot actually! (E.g: the bubbleworks at Chessington: world of adventures)
Anime Psyclone I don't think that the corkscrew is unique enough. Maybe something like the haunted house
so curious who is playing with a slinky
im not mad i just wanna know
run away genrefacation and mybrandsmanship from
business people in "marketing" who want to fell "creative"
and have a pocket full of eye pees that they decided in the last meeting
would best be worked into EXISTING PARK INFRASTRUCTURE!
i'm so glad i'm not the only one who hates the idea of putting tron in wdw's tomorrowland. seeing this giant ugly modern building next to space mountain and the 1994 50s style retrofuture architechture just ruins the whole themeing of tomorrowland and it makes me so upset since wdw's 1994 tomorrowland is my favorite absolute favorite land ever...
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