The big problem with multiculturalism is often the failure to integrate. It’s as old as history itself. People of a particular ethnicity feel safer amongst their own. Giving rise to ghettoisation. This is happening all over the country and the indigenous population becomes scared and to some extent paranoid about alleged "no-go" areas. These circumstances give annunciation to people like TR and NF.
What you mean by integration is the abandonment of their creed, culture and religion. Let's be honest. Nothing will make you happier than Muslims abandoning their parents to care homes......just like the good old salt of the earth brits.
Peter Marshall there have been China towns Irish towns the Jews have had their own areas Polish areas West Indian areas ! Every single one of these areas has met with resistance and opposition and the thugs have quite often responded in a similar way ! What happened in south port is totally unique the Locals hadn’t a problem with the mosque or the Muslims the problem was outside thugs who were wiped into a frenzy bye nationalists !
What a dishonest way of comparing the two ! One was sparked by the removal of a child into care, agreed. The other was primarily caused by the murder of 3 children by the child of immigrants. You seem to have forgotten that little detail.
Your supposed 'facts' are anything but factual. He was born and grew up in the UK , and is a nominal Christian and it seems he is is mentally ill & currently is undergoing the standard period of psychiatric assessment as laid down in law. The fact that his parents came from Rwanda is utterly immaterial.
When a trigger question is posed, the motive of the questioner needs to be clarified. For example, “Will no one rid me of this troublesome priest?” is a quote attributed to Henry II that preceded the death of Thomas Becket, the Archbishop of Canterbury, in 1170. Apparently, on hearing that his friend Becket had been killed by four over-zealous knights, Henry wept. Would a modern-day politician weep if, in response to a trigger question, someone dies?
No, Farage is NOT 'at the center'. The person 'right at the center' is the obscenely violent perpetrator, and his victims. Are you just totally incapable of being fair and balanced?
I think we also have to consider the possibility that a new Labour government may provide some kind of motivation for these right wing protests - its no coincidence. That being the case one has to wonder what could happen or who could benefit if law and order were threatened by riots over migration etc. Farage is the only answer I can come up with.
If the immigrant family obeyed the law re the removal of the children. (Social services don't remove children for no reason. ) there would not have been a riot. Would that happen to a British family ,say in Guildford or Hertford ? I don't think so !
Lots of British "families " attacked mosques because a rawandan Christian stabbed 3 girls. I think that's worse. But you can cope as best your pretty little head allows. We've seen the natives are capibible of allot more violence....
I will agree with that, in the Leeds case we know it was Roma people (again Muslims were stereotyped). Roma people and Gypsy communities ( including white Gypsies) are known for rejection of society expectations, hence they are normally Nomadic travelers. I went to school that had Gypsy kids, they were the most disruptive kids going, no control. So I have no shock when I saw those riots , as they have extended communities that are largely territorial and dislike outsiders telling them whats expected of them. They are also quick to violence!
Are you aware that the knifing incident took place only a five-minute walk away from Southport's Mosque. Does it not occur to you to wonder how the knifeman knew that the group of young FEMALES would be DANCING that Day. Obviously not proof of a connection but since no proper enquiries have been completed how are you in a position to state as fact, that anyone is wrong?
@@weswheel4834 What part of "obviously not proof of a connection" did you find hard to grasp. The point I was making was that it is too soon to reach the conclusion that our learned professor has drawn. I thought that was obvious!
@@michaelpalmer4013 You do seem to be saying "Let's assume that there's a connection until proven otherwise". And you didn't answer my second question.
@@weswheel4834 Again, I repeat, "The point I was making was that it is too soon to reach the conclusion that our learned professor has drawn. I thought that was obvious!" I saw only one question.
@@michaelpalmer4013 See the 2 question marks. The point you seem to be missing is that if it is too soon to reach a conclusion, then maybe don't try reaching one.
Language and clarity are important, when you say fake news, surely you mean lies. Call it what it is not some diluting phrase like fake, it was and is an out and out lie.
I said that and was accused by a right winger of "misrepresenting people" I told him stereotypes exist because they exist, its no conspiracy and no misinterpretation if the label fits.
I would hope when they identify them, those who do have jobs are sacked & those on benefits should be sanctioned i.e. benefits stopped as well as sentencing them for a long time. Sadly many of these people are sponsored via USA & Putin
@@davidboult4143 The far right in the UK has financial connections with far-right groups in the USA which in turn are sponsored by Putin. Both USA & the UK governments are trying to cut off this funding. FACT NOT FICTION.
The racists were shouting to the police "you're not English anymore", we can tie ourselves up in knots but I fully support the Metropolitan Police, NO to racism.
@@Markcain268 Not sure, right now the comparisons between Farage and John Tyndall are closing in. Anyone supporting the likes of Farage is no friend of multiculturism and no friend of a United Kingdom under its current disenchantment. We don't want to go back to the 1970s, the country is feeling repercussions of the social and political mirroring of that era of austerity, social inequality, unionist despots and disruption of national infrastructure, poor education, standards in less affluent area schools and the rest. Bad enough it was heading there under the Tories. Farage has no friends in Labor, he knows it. I'm sure the shared camaraderie with Sunak and Starmer also made him feel like a fish out of water. Sometimes the most spiteful individuals refuse to understand they are the problem, so they become more militant. We all understand the social problems, but many of us realize there is a right and wrong way to go about things. Point to make... Left Wing supporters had no influence under a Conservative government (not that Labour is left wing, its mostly leaning centrist). You have had your time under the Tories and it failed. Is it not better to work under a common cause, let another majority chosen government to repair the damage, cut the riots which means safety for all, better rights and fair representation of all British subjects, than rioting, destruction of property and looting. I am sorry, but Farage is not the man for the job. He cant even get his act in Clacton, but off to grovel for Trump who did not care a jot about Farage during his visit. Farage refuted Trump to stand for Clacton, Trump sees that as disloyalty.
Rioting and destruction has no place. However, you have to use empathy and understand why people are acting like this. These are working class people who are reacting to an event in their community that is out of the norm. Starmer is now going after them instead of looking at the root causes of their anger. They are being labelled as 'out of town far right. Maybe so; on social media some are clearly organising events but there are plenty of locals on the ground. A number of them looked dressed like they had come locally. In fact today the rioter that got hit by his own bricks was named as a painter and decorator from Southport. The very people Starmer needs for his house building projects! The government spinning this is going to make these people more angry. Starmer needs to talk to them directly and give them action on the things he is going to do to sort this out; tell them how he is going to get immigration down; tell them how he is going to stop people from being radicalised; tell them what he is going to do on knife crime. Starmer is not doing this. All he is doing is making them more scared, angry and confused. I am worried that he is an elite lawyer from London who doesn't know how to talk to them directly. Why isn't Rayner out there? I think she would relate to them in a better way than Starmer. She is meant to be Deputy Leader but I think Starmer doesn't have full confidence in her abilities. If Starmer goes directly to the protesters and gives them action, he can short circuit the narrative of the right. Not the full force of the law and censorship. But is he interested in doing this or can he do this?
What action do they want? The police already have the culprit in custody and he will be charged in due course. It seems their real problem is that they believe that foreigners, non-white people, and particularly Muslims are a threat. So what action will make them content that isn't mass indiscriminate deportations? What will make them content that is less than the implementation of racist, fascistic government policies? I have no empathy for them whatsoever. Every normal person with feelings finds the murder of children upsetting, but only a special kind of thicko thinks that's a reason to go to the scene of a tragedy, smash up the neighbourhood and assault police.
I think we can all recall how the anti Israel 'protests' were policed, no riot gear, nobody was being randomly arrested or kettled. I don't think it is far right to wonder why some causes are supported while some forcibly suppressed by a police service that is supposed to be outside of politics.
Riot in Hartlepool, the average age I estimated was about 16. People are looking for a scapegoat for economic and social decline. When I was young the Unions were having strikes and demonstrations against the Capitalists and the government of the day. Now the white working class think social injustice and poverty is caused by Muslims. No, the real enemy remains those who wish to exploit others amass fortunes and get Parliament to pass laws allowing tax havens for the wealthy. The poor Muslim is not your enemy he is the victim as much as yourselves are against Capitalism.
Maybe it's because the copper put the Asian man in blue into a headlock from behind I'm not excusing what the Asian men did but the police behaved unprofessionally
There have been links with so many Islamic attacks, you can’t condemn people thinking another stabbing attack is also Islamic in origin. The German attack was certainly Islamic. Nothing to do with Xenophobia. Just following the examples already taken place.
Professor Wilson, I refer to your video of 31 July 2024 entitled ‘the danger of RT and the social media conspiracists’. Taking up your entreaty in this piece to ‘project friendship … openness [and] questioning’, I wonder if you would consider the following open question of mine: does your stated position here contain a fundamental inconsistency if not an outright contradiction? On the one hand you identify, surely correctly, that we face today the difficult issue of ‘the fracturing of our society’. However you also make it clear that ‘apportioning blame … is the wrong approach’, and that ‘one single thread, one closed idea that explains everything … is a conspiracy’. Yet, when it comes to your discussion of the recent incident in Stockport, and the various causes of it that have been put forward you proceed, it seems to me, to precisely apportion the blame you rightly warn against. Who do you blame? Well, isn’t it in the title? You blame - you explicitly name - a media company, RT, that only has a presence in the UK to people who utilize ‘Rumble’ or ‘Odysee’, hardly the majority of people in this country. Where is the ‘friendship’, the ‘openness’, indeed the ‘questioning’ involved in calling RT a ‘malicious organization’? Why does that not amount, precisely, to ‘apportioning blame’ on your part? If it is the duty of, particularly the philosopher, to heed Socrates’ claim in respect of ‘the unexamined life’, and to follow the injunction of the Delphic Oracle to ‘Know Yourself’, then doesn’t that mean that if we are going to adequately address some of the profound societal problems that we face we would all do well to try to do what seems to be the most difficult thing of all: Question ourselves, our own biases, our own prejudices, and learn as much as we can about them, rather than grabbing whatever opportunity we can to indulge in them? Thank you.
Misinformation has been a factor in political life since Pasqino/Arentino but now it really is well out of control. A dangerous symptom of this was the 'little' riot in Hartlepool well away from the mainstream but really illustrating your point about fools!
why did the Merseyside police almost immediately announce that the incident in Southport was not terror related yet state later in an announcement re charges of the perpetrator that they were still working with Lancashire anti terrorist squad?
@@VinoVeritas_ You can go back and see the statement saying it was not terror related. Like the stab soldier and many many other such beneficial incidents.
@@marumaru6084 Any immediate statement from the police following the incident will not have said "it's not terror related". That's a simple fact. Like I said, facts and comprehension seem to be an issue these days.
There are common factors to all these events, one being poverty, the other being towns and inner cities degeneration; young folks being much a part of this type of environment. Must make mention of the homeless as well, it does disturb me, one can only guess how it affects the young. This is very much oil to the wick, and only needs the match. The far right or far left, to ignite a flame of discontent. Riots are the flame, the causes are its catalyst. These issues need to be addressed as they are feeding extremist and ethnic divide. The other week I was in the city centre, a homeless person said to me,, why can't I get a room in a hotel but the government puts these asylum folks in them and feeds them? I couldn't answer, myself later passing the Salvation Army, that always collects for the homeless, I donated cash to their gallant cause. Yes, I use cash. We as citizens along with politicians need to open our eyes to these many problems, that lead to social unrest. Bored kids on street corners, get bored and when ignored, bad thoughts do sore the mind. And this is not only restricted to the young. The Salvation Army does some great work. One can keep increasing the use of more police and laws, but would it stop riots? Peace to all.
Totally right, it's crucial that the standard of living in the UK is fixed and people are given hope. And I fear it will take bolder measures than what this rather weak, bland Labour party have put forward. Discontent and disillusionment create the breeding ground for this kind of chaos. Individual responsibility is still important though, these people on the streets, and those in politics and the media who have whipped them up and justified them need to be held to account for this.
Prof, let's not focus on Farage, instead deal with socio-economic and to some extent political discontent. We've thrown out one set of politicians and brought in a different shade of the same that don't address the economic disparities. if people are happy in general (not pushed against their walls), then the space for the likes of Farage diminishes.
I totally agree, disillusionment and discontent create the conditions for Farage, Robinson, etc, to thrive but that doesn't mean they should be let off the hook. There can be no excuse for the violence in Southport or for those who incited it.
@@Red-px1fr I agree but if one were to expend effort then more of that effort should be to reduce discontent and less with those who use such conditions. To do the reverse would give those who incite violence more publicity and a bigger platform to conduct their business.
Merseyside Police officers later recognised a 39-year-old man, who lives in Southport, in the chaotic footage from the riot where he was alleged to have thrown rocks at officers as well as having struck a police van. Amid the violence, one clip showed a member in the rioting crowd approaching police, before he was struck in the back of the head by a brick before a follow-up piece of mortar smacked him in his privates. The man, wearing a grey tracksuit, was then seen limping away from police with a blood running down his head and neck. The man was taken to a nearby hospital following a domestic disturbance, where he allegedly racially abused a fellow patient. He was later arrested on suspicion of violent disorder, threats to kill and a racially aggravated public order offence. The man was subsequently taken into custody for police interview before being conditionally bailed. Mic drop moment!!
I wonder if The Prof thinks that the large number of family and friends of the Southport victims who fiercely heckled Starmer when he visited the town the other day were a 'faaaar-right mob' ?? Or perhaps The Prof thinks they must have all been members of the 'EDL' (even though it actually ceased to exist more than ten years ago!) 😂
@@STONEWALL148 its already mentioned in his vid,playing down leeds or rochdale is no excuse and i do feel sorry for frontline police officers ONLY as they arnt the ones responsible for 2 tear policing
When they come for you Professor; be that our political elites or, the police and/or members of a certain imported ethnic group, don't come crying to us. We'll be too busy protecting our own families and communities.
If there is one talent nearly every human being has in abundance it is the ability to spot patterns and then use this to protect their interests. The less educated tend to be rather better at it though, because they don't overlay the lessons with piles of intellectual discourse and self-delusion
@@Red-px1fr “The course of every intellectual, if he pursues his journey long and unflinchingly enough, ends in the obvious, from which the non-intellectuals have never stirred.”- Aldous Huxley
Nobody is talking about France, like in the strawman speech you think so profound. The relevant countries are half way around the world and in most cases already hate this country. If we are ever so desperate for asylum that we need travel to the Islamic world for it, then we're in a LOT of trouble.
I for one find it hard to make out your modus operandum, Professor. You seem to have the practice of assigning 'heart' responses to many of the comments made, whether the comment is affirmative towards you or whether it's in marked disagreement. But that's all you ever do, it seems. You never tackle a comment head-on, you don't even make a video specifically addressing any comments. Speaking for myself, I would rather have you actually engage with something that's said, than get a reply merely telling me that you liked my comment. Could you please make a video explaining what your approach is and why?
This is the beginning more protests to come all over the country, Starmer as not got a clue what the general public thinks and views, he's going to learn a hard lesson..
@vincentblack7467: You again with your illiterate, ungrammatical spew of drivel. Get back under the slimy stone under which you fester, you odious troll.
I don't think this lot represent the general public, I have faith that Britain's average IQ is higher than that. And I hope that it will be them who learn a hard lesson.
i think police running away at leeds is very soft approach,and agee police wrongly used,if you skin colour or from different country or religion you get kid gloves,take the politics out of policing
An old woman was walking down the road whan she saw a gang of thugs beating a poisonous snake. She rescued the snake and carried it back to her home, where she nursed it back to health. They became friends and lived together for many months. One day they were going into town and the old woman picked him up and the snake bit her. Repeatedly. "O God," she screamed, "I am dying! Why? I was your friend. I saved your life! I trusted you! Why did you bite me?" The snake looked up at her and said, "Lady, you knew I was a snake when you first picked me up."
The big problem with multiculturalism is often the failure to integrate. It’s as old as history itself. People of a particular ethnicity feel safer amongst their own. Giving rise to ghettoisation.
This is happening all over the country and the indigenous population becomes scared and to some extent paranoid about alleged "no-go" areas. These circumstances give annunciation to people like TR and NF.
What you mean by integration is the abandonment of their creed, culture and religion. Let's be honest.
Nothing will make you happier than Muslims abandoning their parents to care homes......just like the good old salt of the earth brits.
Peter Marshall there have been China towns Irish towns the Jews have had their own areas Polish areas West Indian areas ! Every single one of these areas has met with resistance and opposition and the thugs have quite often responded in a similar way ! What happened in south port is totally unique the Locals hadn’t a problem with the mosque or the Muslims the problem was outside thugs who were wiped into a frenzy bye nationalists !
Superb comment and spot on
@@tantatheindian7068 Thank you. Please excuse annunciation for ammunition ! AI is too clever at times!
@@nickryder9669 Social media is rapidly becoming very antisocial!
What a dishonest way of comparing the two ! One was sparked by the removal of a child into care, agreed. The other was primarily caused by the murder of 3 children by the child of immigrants. You seem to have forgotten that little detail.
Your supposed 'facts' are anything but factual.
He was born and grew up in the UK , and is a nominal Christian and it seems he is is mentally ill & currently is undergoing the standard period of psychiatric assessment as laid down in law.
The fact that his parents came from Rwanda is utterly immaterial.
When a trigger question is posed, the motive of the questioner needs to be clarified.
For example, “Will no one rid me of this troublesome priest?” is a quote attributed to Henry II that preceded the death of Thomas Becket, the Archbishop of Canterbury, in 1170. Apparently, on hearing that his friend Becket had been killed by four over-zealous knights, Henry wept.
Would a modern-day politician weep if, in response to a trigger question, someone dies?
Farage is right at the center like a precancerous mass
Best description of Farage I've ever heard 😅
Sure the problem was caused by Farage it is all his fault he is not the result of the problem at all.
has he r4p3d 1000s of children across the country?
No, Farage is NOT 'at the center'. The person 'right at the center' is the obscenely violent perpetrator, and his victims. Are you just totally incapable of being fair and balanced?
I think we also have to consider the possibility that a new Labour government may provide some kind of motivation for these right wing protests - its no coincidence.
That being the case one has to wonder what could happen or who could benefit if law and order were threatened by riots over migration etc.
Farage is the only answer I can come up with.
Farage gave us a voice.
@unitysprings3631 You really call his shit your voice? I'm so sorry for you but then again if you really believe that, you need a carer.
Alternatively (and more likely looking at current geopolitical events) a lot of the recent unrest is outside agitators trying to destabilise things.
@@coasteraddict10 I'd say they are contributing to the destabilisation for sure.
Prof ...before you start talking rubbish get your facts right 😂
Care to elaborate?
@@echobay5040 He won't as its all made up in his mind so don't bother
If the immigrant family obeyed the law re the removal of the children. (Social services don't remove children for no reason. ) there would not have been a riot.
Would that happen to a British family ,say in Guildford or Hertford ? I don't think so !
Lots of British "families " attacked mosques because a rawandan Christian stabbed 3 girls. I think that's worse. But you can cope as best your pretty little head allows. We've seen the natives are capibible of allot more violence....
I will agree with that, in the Leeds case we know it was Roma people (again Muslims were stereotyped). Roma people and Gypsy communities ( including white Gypsies) are known for rejection of society expectations, hence they are normally Nomadic travelers. I went to school that had Gypsy kids, they were the most disruptive kids going, no control. So I have no shock when I saw those riots , as they have extended communities that are largely territorial and dislike outsiders telling them whats expected of them. They are also quick to violence!
Are you aware that the knifing incident took place only a five-minute walk away from Southport's Mosque. Does it not occur to you to wonder how the knifeman knew that the group of young FEMALES would be DANCING that Day. Obviously not proof of a connection but since no proper enquiries have been completed how are you in a position to state as fact, that anyone is wrong?
Seriously? What sort of service do you imagine that they're running in the mosque?
@@weswheel4834 What part of "obviously not proof of a connection" did you find hard to grasp. The point I was making was that it is too soon to reach the conclusion that our learned professor has drawn. I thought that was obvious!
@@michaelpalmer4013 You do seem to be saying "Let's assume that there's a connection until proven otherwise". And you didn't answer my second question.
@@weswheel4834 Again, I repeat, "The point I was making was that it is too soon to reach the conclusion that our learned professor has drawn. I thought that was obvious!"
I saw only one question.
@@michaelpalmer4013 See the 2 question marks. The point you seem to be missing is that if it is too soon to reach a conclusion, then maybe don't try reaching one.
Language and clarity are important, when you say fake news, surely you mean lies. Call it what it is not some diluting phrase like fake, it was and is an out and out lie.
Shouldnt these " british working class men " be at work?
All unemployed, their jobs have been undercut.
I said that and was accused by a right winger of "misrepresenting people" I told him stereotypes exist because they exist, its no conspiracy and no misinterpretation if the label fits.
I would hope when they identify them, those who do have jobs are sacked & those on benefits should be sanctioned i.e. benefits stopped as well as sentencing them for a long time. Sadly many of these people are sponsored via USA & Putin
@@STONEWALL148 ah, I love a conspiracy theory!
@@davidboult4143 The far right in the UK has financial connections with far-right groups in the USA which in turn are sponsored by Putin. Both USA & the UK governments are trying to cut off this funding. FACT NOT FICTION.
Roma, not Romanian. Big difference between the two. I normally like your stuff, but you made a rookie mistake here.
Its obvious now that they didnt send enough police in Leeds to save those children..
The racists were shouting to the police "you're not English anymore", we can tie ourselves up in knots but I fully support the Metropolitan Police, NO to racism.
Are you upset about all the hhhwhite kids that the police allowed the grooming gangs to enjoy, unfettered, for social cohesion?
The word racist really doesn't mean much these days, people like you lot have grossly overused it and it's lost all meaning.
@@Markcain268 If they fully understood the word, they'd be in the streets with us.
@@Markcain268 Not sure, right now the comparisons between Farage and John Tyndall are closing in. Anyone supporting the likes of Farage is no friend of multiculturism and no friend of a United Kingdom under its current disenchantment. We don't want to go back to the 1970s, the country is feeling repercussions of the social and political mirroring of that era of austerity, social inequality, unionist despots and disruption of national infrastructure, poor education, standards in less affluent area schools and the rest. Bad enough it was heading there under the Tories. Farage has no friends in Labor, he knows it. I'm sure the shared camaraderie with Sunak and Starmer also made him feel like a fish out of water. Sometimes the most spiteful individuals refuse to understand they are the problem, so they become more militant. We all understand the social problems, but many of us realize there is a right and wrong way to go about things.
Point to make... Left Wing supporters had no influence under a Conservative government (not that Labour is left wing, its mostly leaning centrist). You have had your time under the Tories and it failed. Is it not better to work under a common cause, let another majority chosen government to repair the damage, cut the riots which means safety for all, better rights and fair representation of all British subjects, than rioting, destruction of property and looting. I am sorry, but Farage is not the man for the job. He cant even get his act in Clacton, but off to grovel for Trump who did not care a jot about Farage during his visit. Farage refuted Trump to stand for Clacton, Trump sees that as disloyalty.
@@Markcain268 Not like in the good old 70s, eh?
Rioting and destruction has no place. However, you have to use empathy and understand why people are acting like this. These are working class people who are reacting to an event in their community that is out of the norm. Starmer is now going after them instead of looking at the root causes of their anger. They are being labelled as 'out of town far right. Maybe so; on social media some are clearly organising events but there are plenty of locals on the ground. A number of them looked dressed like they had come locally. In fact today the rioter that got hit by his own bricks was named as a painter and decorator from Southport. The very people Starmer needs for his house building projects! The government spinning this is going to make these people more angry. Starmer needs to talk to them directly and give them action on the things he is going to do to sort this out; tell them how he is going to get immigration down; tell them how he is going to stop people from being radicalised; tell them what he is going to do on knife crime. Starmer is not doing this. All he is doing is making them more scared, angry and confused. I am worried that he is an elite lawyer from London who doesn't know how to talk to them directly. Why isn't Rayner out there? I think she would relate to them in a better way than Starmer. She is meant to be Deputy Leader but I think Starmer doesn't have full confidence in her abilities. If Starmer goes directly to the protesters and gives them action, he can short circuit the narrative of the right. Not the full force of the law and censorship. But is he interested in doing this or can he do this?
What action do they want? The police already have the culprit in custody and he will be charged in due course. It seems their real problem is that they believe that foreigners, non-white people, and particularly Muslims are a threat. So what action will make them content that isn't mass indiscriminate deportations? What will make them content that is less than the implementation of racist, fascistic government policies?
I have no empathy for them whatsoever. Every normal person with feelings finds the murder of children upsetting, but only a special kind of thicko thinks that's a reason to go to the scene of a tragedy, smash up the neighbourhood and assault police.
I think we can all recall how the anti Israel 'protests' were policed, no riot gear, nobody was being randomly arrested or kettled. I don't think it is far right to wonder why some causes are supported while some forcibly suppressed by a police service that is supposed to be outside of politics.
yes sadly these riot are about 2 tier policing
When all the people who were rioting are sitting in the prison cells do you think Nigel farage will be thinking of them.
He will be visiting them in prison.
You'd hope so. Where would he be without his foot soldiers. (Okay, 'fans').
He won't care a fudge, its beyond him to mix with common prisoners
@@jondarbyshire-s7kYeah, right. You cretin.
@DougDinsdale33 hahaha, I am white LOL. But you could not afford me, you too busy rioting to work :P
Shame on you
You're clearly not qualified to wear a cardigan and bow tie.
The 'baby out the window' incident was not Manchester, that was the Harehill district of Leeds. Hartlepool also rioted. Thank you for your reports
Riot in Hartlepool, the average age I estimated was about 16. People are looking for a scapegoat for economic and social decline. When I was young the Unions were having strikes and demonstrations against the Capitalists and the government of the day. Now the white working class think social injustice and poverty is caused by Muslims. No, the real enemy remains those who wish to exploit others amass fortunes and get Parliament to pass laws allowing tax havens for the wealthy. The poor Muslim is not your enemy he is the victim as much as yourselves are against Capitalism.
Isn't it remarkable how the edl have gained such a foothold in Ireland too?
EDL doesn't even exist
What about those poor brave police officers attacked by diverse Boxers at the airport?Why haven’t they been arrested
@@SeasideDon you tell them 🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈
Maybe it's because the copper put the Asian man in blue into a headlock from behind
I'm not excusing what the Asian men did but the police behaved unprofessionally
Why are the Muslims who attacked the police at the airport not been arrested are they worried about a riot
@@philjameson292 he copper also actually threw the very first punch if you watch it closely .
There have been links with so many Islamic attacks, you can’t condemn people thinking another stabbing attack is also Islamic in origin. The German attack was certainly Islamic. Nothing to do with Xenophobia. Just following the examples already taken place.
GB did a good comparison of the responses from the home secretary.
Explicit bias was clear to see.
It was like night and day.
Professor Wilson,
I refer to your video of 31 July 2024 entitled ‘the danger of RT and the social media conspiracists’. Taking up your entreaty in this piece to ‘project friendship … openness [and] questioning’, I wonder if you would consider the following open question of mine: does your stated position here contain a fundamental inconsistency if not an outright contradiction?
On the one hand you identify, surely correctly, that we face today the difficult issue of ‘the fracturing of our society’. However you also make it clear that ‘apportioning blame … is the wrong approach’, and that ‘one single thread, one closed idea that explains everything … is a conspiracy’.
Yet, when it comes to your discussion of the recent incident in Stockport, and the various causes of it that have been put forward you proceed, it seems to me, to precisely apportion the blame you rightly warn against. Who do you blame? Well, isn’t it in the title? You blame - you explicitly name - a media company, RT, that only has a presence in the UK to people who utilize ‘Rumble’ or ‘Odysee’, hardly the majority of people in this country.
Where is the ‘friendship’, the ‘openness’, indeed the ‘questioning’ involved in calling RT a ‘malicious organization’? Why does that not amount, precisely, to ‘apportioning blame’ on your part?
If it is the duty of, particularly the philosopher, to heed Socrates’ claim in respect of ‘the unexamined life’, and to follow the injunction of the Delphic Oracle to ‘Know Yourself’, then doesn’t that mean that if we are going to adequately address some of the profound societal problems that we face we would all do well to try to do what seems to be the most difficult thing of all: Question ourselves, our own biases, our own prejudices, and learn as much as we can about them, rather than grabbing whatever opportunity we can to indulge in them? Thank you.
Well said, too much four legs good, two legs bad in this media debate.
@@jondarbyshire-s7k Thanks jonzu
Misinformation has been a factor in political life since Pasqino/Arentino but now it really is well out of control. A dangerous symptom of this was the 'little' riot in Hartlepool well away from the mainstream but really illustrating your point about fools!
I love you reading Shakespeare. This reminds me of many passages being read on Radio 4 just after the Brexit vote. Illuminating and poignant.
Communities are the problem.
Its communities which can be incited and turn into mobs.
why did the Merseyside police almost immediately announce that the incident in Southport was not terror related yet state later in an announcement re charges of the perpetrator that they were still working with Lancashire anti terrorist squad?
That's not what the statement will have said. That's the problem here. People struggle with facts and comprehension.
@@VinoVeritas_ You can go back and see the statement saying it was not terror related. Like the stab soldier and many many other such beneficial incidents.
@@marumaru6084 Did they get his pronouns correct? Priorities.
@@marumaru6084 Any immediate statement from the police following the incident will not have said "it's not terror related". That's a simple fact. Like I said, facts and comprehension seem to be an issue these days.
@@VinoVeritas_ The good news is it is available so its moot! Insulting people will obviously help to provide clarity!
The trouble with Farage and his acolytes is Rwanda would refuse to take them.
There are common factors to all these events, one being poverty, the other being towns and inner cities degeneration; young folks being much a part of this type of environment. Must make mention of the homeless as well, it does disturb me, one can only guess how it affects the young.
This is very much oil to the wick, and only needs the match. The far right or far left, to ignite a flame of discontent.
Riots are the flame, the causes are its catalyst. These issues need to be addressed as they are feeding extremist and ethnic divide. The other week I was in the city centre, a homeless person said to me,, why can't I get a room in a hotel but the government puts these asylum folks in them and feeds them?
I couldn't answer, myself later passing the Salvation Army, that always collects for the homeless, I donated cash to their gallant cause.
Yes, I use cash.
We as citizens along with politicians need to open our eyes to these many problems, that lead to social unrest.
Bored kids on street corners, get bored and when ignored, bad thoughts do sore the mind.
And this is not only restricted to the young.
The Salvation Army does some great work.
One can keep increasing the use of more police and laws, but would it stop riots?
Peace to all.
Totally right, it's crucial that the standard of living in the UK is fixed and people are given hope. And I fear it will take bolder measures than what this rather weak, bland Labour party have put forward. Discontent and disillusionment create the breeding ground for this kind of chaos.
Individual responsibility is still important though, these people on the streets, and those in politics and the media who have whipped them up and justified them need to be held to account for this.
So don't arrest them
Prof, let's not focus on Farage, instead deal with socio-economic and to some extent political discontent. We've thrown out one set of politicians and brought in a different shade of the same that don't address the economic disparities. if people are happy in general (not pushed against their walls), then the space for the likes of Farage diminishes.
I totally agree, disillusionment and discontent create the conditions for Farage, Robinson, etc, to thrive but that doesn't mean they should be let off the hook. There can be no excuse for the violence in Southport or for those who incited it.
@@Red-px1fr I agree but if one were to expend effort then more of that effort should be to reduce discontent and less with those who use such conditions. To do the reverse would give those who incite violence more publicity and a bigger platform to conduct their business.
Starmer may end up jailing Farage
That would be fun.
But, would he be welcome in prison?
After all, there's a fair few of those people Farage has a clear detestation of behind bars.
Merseyside Police officers later recognised a 39-year-old man, who lives in Southport, in the chaotic footage from the riot where he was alleged to have thrown rocks at officers as well as having struck a police van. Amid the violence, one clip showed a member in the rioting crowd approaching police, before he was struck in the back of the head by a brick before a follow-up piece of mortar smacked him in his privates. The man, wearing a grey tracksuit, was then seen limping away from police with a blood running down his head and neck. The man was taken to a nearby hospital following a domestic disturbance, where he allegedly racially abused a fellow patient.
He was later arrested on suspicion of violent disorder, threats to kill and a racially aggravated public order offence. The man was subsequently taken into custody for police interview before being conditionally bailed. Mic drop moment!!
I knew you wouldn’t answer my question lol
Leeds not Manchester
Stop there benfit and house benefits let's see how long it last farage can pay there bills
It wasn't Manchester, it was Leeds. Then I switched off (If basic facts cannot be recalled). Some Professor.
🤔I don’t think currently in Scotland out police have got to this level there are mistakes made and these are investigated
I wonder if The Prof thinks that the large number of family and friends of the Southport victims who fiercely heckled Starmer when he visited the town the other day were a 'faaaar-right mob' ??
Or perhaps The Prof thinks they must have all been members of the 'EDL' (even though it actually ceased to exist more than ten years ago!) 😂
They were uneducated fools on benefits.
No, not a mob. A few individuals with far-right views.
The EDL still exists it just rebrands itself
rubbish no excuse for riots in leeds or rochdale
But you didn't mention Southport or London why?
@@STONEWALL148 its already mentioned in his vid,playing down leeds or rochdale is no excuse and i do feel sorry for frontline police officers ONLY as they arnt the ones responsible for 2 tear policing
@@ozzmundo5095 So you support far right violence then
@@STONEWALL148 clearly didnt read me reply
@@ozzmundo5095 Yes I did so now answer one straightforward question do you condemn the rioters in Southport?
And still the blame everyone one else except the far right.
EDL funded by israel😅😅😅
wat bout HALTON MOOR?
When they come for you Professor; be that our political elites or, the police and/or members of a certain imported ethnic group, don't come crying to us. We'll be too busy protecting our own families and communities.
Prof it's hard to believe you are becoming even more devious and twisted by the day
Why no arrests for the Leeds riot ?
20 arrested already
If there is one talent nearly every human being has in abundance it is the ability to spot patterns and then use this to protect their interests.
The less educated tend to be rather better at it though, because they don't overlay the lessons with piles of intellectual discourse and self-delusion
Where did you get that bright idea from? The master anti-expert Michael Gove?
@@Red-px1fr “The course of every intellectual, if he pursues his journey long and unflinchingly enough, ends in the obvious, from which the non-intellectuals have never stirred.”- Aldous Huxley
Bullshit
Better get your prison tray ready, if you were being naughty at the fash parade LOL
Nobody is talking about France, like in the strawman speech you think so profound. The relevant countries are half way around the world and in most cases already hate this country. If we are ever so desperate for asylum that we need travel to the Islamic world for it, then we're in a LOT of trouble.
You're not right in the head.
Take another look Romani not Romanian.
I for one find it hard to make out your modus operandum, Professor. You seem to have the practice of assigning 'heart' responses to many of the comments made, whether the comment is affirmative towards you or whether it's in marked disagreement. But that's all you ever do, it seems. You never tackle a comment head-on, you don't even make a video specifically addressing any comments. Speaking for myself, I would rather have you actually engage with something that's said, than get a reply merely telling me that you liked my comment. Could you please make a video explaining what your approach is and why?
Does that mean we can expect to get such a video from you, dear Professor?
"manchester" !
This is the beginning more protests to come all over the country, Starmer as not got a clue what the general public thinks and views, he's going to learn a hard lesson..
@vincentblack7467: You again with your illiterate, ungrammatical spew of drivel. Get back under the slimy stone under which you fester, you odious troll.
No, I think you thugs are going to learn a hard lesson from local people they will rise up against the rent a mobs of the far right.
I don't think this lot represent the general public, I have faith that Britain's average IQ is higher than that. And I hope that it will be them who learn a hard lesson.
Tastey bit of Shakespeare. Nice.
You need to do better at researching the facts
i think police running away at leeds is very soft approach,and agee police wrongly used,if you skin colour or from different country or religion you get kid gloves,take the politics out of policing
What a load of rubbish you spout.
An old woman was walking down the road whan she saw a gang of thugs beating a poisonous snake. She rescued the snake and carried it back to her home, where she nursed it back to health. They became friends and lived together for many months. One day they were going into town and the old woman picked him up and the snake bit her. Repeatedly. "O God," she screamed, "I am dying! Why? I was your friend. I saved your life! I trusted you! Why did you bite me?"
The snake looked up at her and said, "Lady, you knew I was a snake when you first picked me up."
Isn't that a story from the Mango Mussolini?
That's a long-winded way of saying your a racist