Feminism, Free Speech, & Gamergate | Christina Hoff Sommers | WOMEN | Rubin Report
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- Опубліковано 26 лис 2015
- Dave Rubin of The Rubin Report talks to Christina Hoff Sommers (Host of The Factual Feminist) about feminism, free speech and trigger warnings, Gamergate, cultural libertarians, and much more.
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I remember when Futurama said "Everyone knows 21st century universities were just expensive day-care centers."
mind fucking blown, man
I think of it every time! And that was even before this safe-space era.
Judging by the educational level and social intellect of the creators, it was probably prescience.
Oh.my.gowddddd. I think my brain just did that thing when you divide by 0
@@saultarvitz308 I more buy the theory that Matt is a time travel and he already knew everything. There is a list somewhere of over 100 different things that Futurama got right before they even occured.
This. This is a sensible feminist. A person who just wants equal rights for everyone. I'd vote for this woman for president over anyone running right now.
Let's be real. Women are not fit to be president. They're weak
As opposed to that guy you have in the job at the moment who's just so strong and reliable...? How about you don't generalise about an entire gender instead of treating people as individuals. That's the kind of thing regressives do.
President? Really?
Equal rights for everyone would mean leaning more towards Men today... since the pendulum has swung way too much against them.
@@Noscope-nl7nq well *Yes* for most of them.
It seems that this lovely lady has been fighting a difficult battle alone for a long time - glad that like minded people are coming together.
she wasn't alone, Milo Y., Steven Crowder is on her side as well. There are alot of channels as well that fights her battle. Repzion, Thunderf00t, Sargon, Shoe0nHead, especially Bearing. And the list goes on
Raios Ephi I know. That's why I said I'm glad that like minded people are coming together. But if you listen to the interview, she's been at it pretty much alone for decades.
Feminism has a female out group. This has always been a thing.
I agree. From what I've gathered following her for a couple of years she has been fighting it pretty much from the on set in the 60's/70's, but the rest of us have only court on to it with in the last decade when GamerGate began. Although there were others who were also pretty much on their own as well like Erin Pizzey. It can't have been an easy battle for any of them, and you really got to admire their strength, resiliency, and ethics to never have given up. Maybe that's why we refer to her as based "mum".
RequiemFor America You should also check out Wendy McElroy. She also has been going at this alone, maybe even longer than Sommers. 2 very great women...
May based mom forever remain grounded and guide the world towards unrestricted, free & constructive discussion.
With her knowledge & aide, may we all destroy any impediment to free speech & may we forever challenge 'acceptable' thought, no matter how offensive our views may be.
+Baljit Kaur Amen
Amen
+Armando Lagando "There shall be Jokes" - classic!
+Baljit Kaur Allahu Akhbar
+Baljit Kaur #AndN
What a classy lady.
BawdSpeellar Classy is sexy. Her Husband is a lucky man.
Amazing woman. Grace, class, and brains that most of us can only wish for.
I find it so strange the regressive left characterizes Sommers as some hateful bigot when in every interview I see she's just this sweet, mild-mannered lady.
We love you, Based Mom!
Leos Klein that’s because the leftists don’t live in reality
I got so triggered I died.
+Jared “Nuancense” Bork Omg, I know, right? I had to run to my safe space immediately after watching. lmao xD
+The Wandering Stranger
My safe space is a big cushy chair with a big ol cup o tea. It's also how I watch youtube in general.....
+Jared “Nuancense” Bork Rip in piece.
+Jared “Nuancense” Bork Rest in peace.
+Jared “Nuancense” If only you'd had access to a safe space with a therapy dog, colouring books and some playdough...............
Christina Hoff Sommers really is an amazing woman. A true feminist, someone all women can look up to. We love you based mom. Thanks so much Dave for bringing her on the show!
Here's the thing:
I can't express how appreciative I am of the in depth conversations +The Rubin Report is bringing to the public. Whether we agree or disagree with the positions taken, we certainly come away more informed, with a greater understanding, than the typical Banner Headline Followed BY Commercial Break format.
Sorry. Did I interrupt your skimming of daily events to find those which support your own beliefs?
+Lee Burkett I was just thinking the same thing. How refreshing to hear an in-depth discussion without that false 'triad' they always go for in TV interviews of anchor acting as referee between two pugilists who are never given enough time to explain their position and just end up constantly interrupting each other.
I really like Joe Rogan's show for the same reason, but you need to set aside a fair chunk of time for his interviews.
+Lee Burkett Let me just say, I have my family tired with how much I've been listening to these conversations. I agree though, they're very enjoyable even when you don't agree with everything.
This is a very simple situation: if you want a "safe space" where you have the right not to be offended of challenged, you can stay home--if you want a great education and to actually make something of your life, go to college. I got my poli-sci degree a couple years back and will get my MPA in couple months, and cannot count the number of times I have gotten into brutal and loud arguments on political issues (both with professors and students). That is part of the experience and, if you can't handle this, you aren't mature enough for school or, at minimum, you should transfer into a much more happy subject (ex. interpretive dance).
The Progressive Cynic If the SJWs stay home, they'll have to switch off all devices, and nail the letterbox shut and all doors shut!
Christina is such a delightful person!
Dave: You really out do yourself in these interviews. We need to allow for open discourse, agreements and disagreements. An echo chamber only allows for the message to reverberate; it doesn't leave room for opinions to be dissected. You're doing an awesome job NOT echoing other opinions and being very open minded.
Thanks. You don't seem brain dead to me!
+mrbraindead12 very professional format, keep up the good work Rubes!
+mrbraindead exactly. My wife and I ha e been talking about this for the past few years now and wondering if we can really consider ourselves progressives since we weren't as far to the left as the people talking.its great to hear someone who is almost on line with us in all of our political and anti theist views be willing to talk with the other side so we can have a real "battle" of ideas
+The Rubin Report Loved this video! What a fantastic woman. Perhaps you'd consider interviewing Thunderf00t next?
+Interesting T Gang Yes! Or Sargon of Akkad. Either would be fine with me.
"History is one long lesson in the dangers of combining misinformation with moral fervor." might be my new favorite quote.
Christina is absolutely amazing!!
I love Christina Hoff-Sommers' work. I'm reading The War Against Boys right now, and I've ordered her book Who Stole Feminism? to read next. I watch and read everything I can find on her work, and I've used her YT channel, The Factual Feminist, to arm myself against these fanatics more than once. Thank you, Christina, for your commitment to this important cause. And thank you, Dave Rubin, for hosting a great show with all the great guests you have on the show.
Dave, you're seriously a breath of fresh air....please keep it up.
I triggered so fucking hard while watching this
+BobbyNiggs I don't even think I can stand to bear it, I may just have to kill myself because I am so mentally weak
You need to get Camille Paglia on the show. Paglia and Sommers are the two great 2nd gen feminists speaking up today.
André Finger I second the Camille call. Has he interviewed her yet?
Based mom makes a lot of sense, as she always does.
holy shit a host that lets their guest speak, this is unheard of
Dave: Your interviewing style (unafraid of challenging, maintaining balance in the conversation between all viewpoints) is so rare and valuable in this media age. I know you will massively grow in popularity over time as a result, and I hope you never lose this style in favor of what might sell better in the short term. I learn so much about both sides of the argument when watching any of your videos. Fantastic job.
Dave, interview a radical feminist!
+SternMann93 It's never going to happen. Feminists in general can only hold to their delusional ideals so long as they don't get challenged, the last thing they will do is show up to have a discussion on their ideals or even just a conversation.
Who do you imagine he interviews.
+SternMann93 That won't happen. Listen to the guy - he is not unintelligent, but you can tell that if he were to have someone on that he disagreed with, and that individual was at all pushy, Dave wouldn't be able to keep the interview on track, he wouldn't be able to ask hard questions and then A, make sure the feminist actually answered the question, or B, refute the illogical misinformation the feminist used in his or her answer.
+Yup Nope
Sure, there are good feminists - CHF "Based Mom" is one of them.
There are no good "radical" feminists. That is an oxymoron. Radical feminists use poor data and flat out falsehoods to advance a poisonous agenda-driven narrative that has absolutely nothing to do with equality.
+Yup Nope I don't think Dave has to indulge a rabidly sexist third-wave feminist in order to "expose" himself to new ideas. I don't need to eat a crap sandwich to know it will be disgusting and make me ill.
Thanks to fools and feminists' sycophants in the media, there is no dearth of feminist propaganda to expose one's self to. Dave doesn't need to waste an hour of his time (not counting the prep, and post production) to interview someone.
This may just be one of my favourite things I have seen on youtube in the last few years, what a breath of fresh air.
Feminists: from burning bras to burning books
Christina, Dave: You walked a thin line and followed the straight and narrow with respect, courage, and truth and I believe that this is the way to sway the hearts and minds of all the individuals that are meandering through this foggy haze of what we call "the world of today". You hit the target. Thank you for being so genuinely conscious with your speech and so deductive and concise with your observations and experiences. I highly respect both of you and feel that this is the way to repair the cultural divide that we are experiencing at the moment. Long form conversation is what we all so desperately need and want. "Keep on keepin on" -Curtis Mayfield, Steve Miller, Joe Dirte'
Another great interview. It would be facinating if you could document attempts to get some well-known "feminists" and neo-progressives to come on your program to discuss their positions, although I'm given to understand that these sorts of people generally aren't interested in actual discussion or debate, but will only pontificate to the faithful (or shout at them with bullhorns).
+Martin Rayner Hear Hear I do agree.
+Martin Rayner I agree. A panel format would be best for that, I think. Maybe they'd feel 'safer' (since we all know that is what is paramount :| ) and Mr. Rubin would have some back-up as well to go against the inevitable pissing match
+Martin Rayner You can find short communication exchanges with rad fems and more sciencey/secular/mra type people online, they do get very angry so the communication isn't really that productive, they try and ignore the points presented and just restate everything they've already said.
It wouldn't be a debate, rational or otherwise. These people might agree to do it but only because they'd see it as a platform where they can further their cause. The extremely self deluded ones would enjoy it because it would afford them the opportunity publicly to humiliate Dave, as a man. The weaker ones wouldn't and couldn't because they'd have to hide behind their own invented phraseology, using it as a 'safe space'. These people don't want reality or reason to intrude into their lives and much prefer to aggressively humiliate anyone who dares to question the reality of what they're doing. To talk to Dave in a rational way would undermine the power base they've tried to create for themselves.
Yes, but if they come on, they have to use facts, not use insults or shout, use violence, or demonstrate outside the studio. In short, they have to be decent and rational!
Thank you for having Christina on the show, as someone who has recently discovered her I find it a breath of fresh air. I consider myself a feminist (in the classic sense) and have had a really hard time being exposed to so many nit-picky arguments put forth by modern feminism that its hard not to get defensive as a man when you feel attacked by constant exposure to clearly ridiculous statements.
I don't mean to objectify but christina has captivating eyes
+MangoWolf She's quite the hottie. I have a bit of a crush on her :-p
+Matt Greer Hot dame
+MangoWolf YOU'RE CONTRIBUTING TO A CULTURE OF OBJECTIFICATION, SHITLORD!
***** You can never be too careful :P
***** Yeah you're right, but i feel i've been conditioned to be overly careful at all times by the crazy sjw feminism peoples
Dave Rubin, I could watch him all day. So intelligent, even handed, someone who actually seems to want to hear different viewpoints.
For another anti-SJW guest I highly recommend Janice Fiamengo. She's an English professor at University at Ottawa and her commentary on social justice issues is fantastic.
***** I suspect many of them can see it but continue to perpetuate them to further their agenda.
+Andrew Voronov
the majority of sen.Sanders supporters are social justice warriors.
Mark Grayson Nope.
Andrew Voronov
don't lie...you know they are. haha!!
Mark Grayson Most liberals aren't SJWs.
People who start the most shit get all the attention, though.
After this interview I am going to check out the feminism and men's rights clubs at the two Colleges I go to. And if they don't have a men's rights club I might make one.
Careful, you might trigger the feminism club by wanting equal representation.. how ironic.
Yeah, challenging feminists can get kinda dicey
You forget that feminists have no honor. They'll collaborate a story to put you in prion for rape and have no regrets for doing so.
They gonna protest that shit so much, is it even worth it?
Ral Vba I think it's disgusting and that any man with anything even resembling morals would immediately discount that kind of talk as sexist nonsense. That said, I am willing to bet that a sizable portion of those men supporting those kinds of views are probably from the Muslim world (or similar cultures) because that's what they actually actively believe as denoted by the legislation and policies that are enacted in those parts of the world.
I'm addicted to Dave. Brilliant discussions every episode. I didn't there were any people left to have these civil sit-downs.
Anyone who can get PTSD from attending a seminar probably shouldn't be allowed out in public without a keeper.
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I am 49 years of age and I still suffer from my PTSD caused by me being physically and psychologically abused by both of my parents in during all of my childhood and teenage years, I got beaten a lot (sometimes they used objects to beat me up), I got emotionally neglected, I got screamed at and I still often show classic signs of PTDS like rage attacks, reoccuring depressions, nightmares, suicidal thoughts, having a bad conscience for no apparant reason, etc.,etc. It got a bit better during the last 10-15 years, but it's not gone and I fear it will never go away completely until the day that I'll die. AND I know that many people suffering from PTSD caused by worse stuff than what happened to me, have it even harder, like f.e. veterans and civilians, who experienced war, rape victims, victims of sexual child abuse, etc.. I feel highly offended when people say, they got PTSD just from listening to somebody having a different opinion than themselves, especially when this person speaks in a calm and collected manner like Christina Hoff Sommers does. These people don't even understand what PTSD IS and they can go fuck themselves in their "safe spaces". And I AM a "leftist".
Christina offers a well reasoned argument by being non-confrontational. it is pleasant to hear a discussion rather than an argument. Thanks for the talk Dave.
"Ms. Information" is a GREAT pun.
This is quite possibly my favourite interview of all time. What an intelligent, inspirational woman!
Dave has such great guests. He conducts proper conversation with individuals of so many view points.
Thank you, thank you, thank you Dave Rubin for bringing (or allowing I should say) a forum for rational thought to the shouting match. It's so refreshing to hear common sense and logic have not gotten lost or abandoned to the psychotic somatic, ridiculous, unrepresentative and slanderous agendas from both sides of the political area. Thank you so, so much!
I always Love what Ms. Sommers always brings to the table with Wisdom, Insight, Experience, Grace, and Hope.
I have always been inspired by people who question with reason and dont just take what is being handed to them. They would even take another step forward bringing the awareness to the public where majority are still much ignorant by choice. We can definitely have more people like this!
Dave, just recently discovered your show. It's great for those of us who want to UNDERSTAND, rather than draw lines and rigidly identify. These extreme people, on either side, need to be highlighted as the nitwits they are. I've really enjoyed the open-minded conversation and the diversity of the guests.
I just ran across this channel by accident. Finally someone steps outside the stale left vs. right paradigm and focuses on the real world of submission vs. liberation. Thank you Dave!
Wow, what a very good and enlightened conversation! As always with you Dave Rubin .
Adding to Gamergate and how some feminists demonize male sexuality, it seems like part of the so-called "second wave" of feminism was the sexual liberation of women. It became okay for women to be sexual and to look at men (or other women). As a gay man I certainly feel liberated that I am finally not ashamed for my sexual feelings. I would certainly not want to demonize others for their feelings!
Dave is essential for many misrepresented social issues. Keep up the great interviews!
Damn, Ms. Sommers is brilliant. It warms my heart to see all the great people involved in the movement to protect truly liberal principles.
Remember when they first brought grief counselors into schools after a student died. That was the start of a generation that couldn't cope with crisis, without help. When I was a teen if some student was killed drinking and driving, they had an assembly and said this is what happens when you do that. We learned to rely on our family and friends to deal with these issues. If people now are upset by seeing a flyer, or a campaign sign, or ball cap, how will they deal with disease and death as adults?
Dave, I'm glad that I found your channel. It seems that now a days I cant connect with any of my peers, Is like they speak a different language. Is refreshing to find like minded people that are in touch with reality.
Prioritizing comfort and security at the expense of agency...I have to say, I agree with Christina. Feminism has become a regressive ideology.
"Big Sister." Christina Hoff Sommers absolutely summed up the whole thing with two words.
Mrs. Summers, thank you also for being awesome!
Rubin... I respect your authenticity and willingness to hear/ debate others views with respect. Your guest had infallible arguments but always happy to hear other view points as well... even if they don't hold up. your guest did. #NICE!
High five Christina, I gotta say you're terrific !!! And so is Dave, of course ...
3/8/18
I cannot believe I haven't heard of Christina Sommers before today. She is incredible. I love her. So wise.
Mr. Rubin, you are my new favorite show! I found you looking at Milo's stuff and I am BLOWN AWAY, sadly actually, that you are one of the few liberals who is understanding what is going on in our culture. I am however very happy you are reaching across the political divide which is used to manipulate us and actually talking about the issues from various perspectives with different voices. It's so tragic to me that there is so much shouting, attacks, violence and utterly dumbed down conversations, if people talk at all in our culture but this situation is being fueled and feeds the new industries in our society.
Christina Hoff Sommers no one man or woman should have to be secluded or discriminated against. Thanks for being so rational and looking out for us boys :). I think we need to spend more money on our teachers and diverse education before our world falls apart....
Very good interview. Constructive, informative, objective and just downright interesting. Thank you Dave and Christina.
It is just nice seeing people that are open to being open on your show and that you bring in people that can speak on subjects without it being an unfocused mess. It is also nice seeing complicated matters discussed with knowledge. Can't tell you how frustrating it is to see a complete lack of understanding of what debate equals personally and in the bigger picture.
thank you dave and base mom. you guys are always so inspiring to listen to.
She seems like a wonderful human being. How can anyone want to boycott this lovely woman?
I've seen the terms "safe space" and "triggered" all over comment forums and I had no idea what they were talking about. Very interesting...I'm beginning to understand. I really enjoyed listening to Sommers!
It was nice seeing Christina Hoff discuss this stuff at length. I have been interested in seeing more from her since I saw a few of her "Factual Feminist" videos.
Thank you for all this work! I recently stumbled on your video and i love how awesome you set the interview up. I love how you challenge and dive into complex topics! Thank you!
Soooo glad you got Christina on! Keep up the excellent work.
Just want to say how lovely, well mannered and sensible your commentors are. I'm from the UK and hope this whole campus thing doesn't come over here to the full extent is has in the States... but it's good to hear some like minded people who want to actually talk about the issues
Christina Hoff Sommers is freaking AWESOME!
Brilliant, Rubin you are an excellent interviewer and have fantastic guests. Thanks for the wonderful content.
Hey Dave, I'm a first time viewer and I gotta say your show seems fantastic. I especially loved the part where you guys discussed sources and which ones to trust, really informative for a college kid like myself who deals with sources all the time. Can't wait for more vids!
dude this channel is great. i don't watch hour long videos that much but i can watch these with ease.
I love Dave's show because his interviews are, to me, a lecture with a provocative moderator. Keep it up!
This woman is absolutely brilliant
My first real introduction to Christina Sommers. Can’t believe I haven’t heard of her before. She’s as beautiful as she is intelligent. She has an easy mastery of the subject(s), which is really appealing. Will follow. Thanks Dave. (Now on to watch her on Rogan, where she appears to be wearing the same dress; busy day, I guess.)
Your show has become my new way to start my day! Keep telling the different opinions!
I'm in the middle of this video. Very instructive and a breath of fresh air.
Another great interview. This was so wonderful to watch. Thank you so much
I'm loving your interviews +Dave Rubin and this one especially, so grateful to have someone like Christina Hoff Sommers speaking out for gamers, Thank you both.
I've watched so many of your videos I figured it was time to just subscribe . Keep'em coming Dave .
"To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize" - Voltaire
@The Rubin Report. Oh, I was a couple of days late for this awaited interview, and what a great one indeed! It's so incredible to see how your channel grows and what guests you bring on to your show. These types of conversations are very needed in my home country Sweden, as you know. I was watching your conversation the Gad Saad the other day, were you mentioned that you would like to speak with a Swede on your show, so how's that going? :)
Thank you so much for your videos and conversations Dave.
"Was there a moment it all went wrong...?"
Great question, Dave.
Christina is a national treasure. I've been a fan since reading "Who Stole Feminism?" in the 90s.
Fantastic episode (again), Dave. Probably one of my favorites so far. Loved the history lesson on the emergence of 3rd wave fem. and CHS's personal anecdotes as a women in the world of "academic feminism".
Dave Rubin,
this is quickly becoming my favorite channel. Keep up the good work.
Being cat called actually made my day, because I felt like someone valued me and appreciated how I looked, appreciated my presence and my body. I've never gotten that from women and in my expiernce, women are much more of a threat that even the most powerful man in the world.
I absolutely love your program. For years all I been able to hear it seems is just totally leftist or rightist views in media. Especially because you can have discussions with conservatives and liberals and have it be productive. Keep up the great work.
Never heard of Christina before this video - and she might just be my new favorite person. Love her spirit, so much. ❤
This person deserve a monument.
@2:47 - YEEEEESSSSSSS!!!!!! OMG, you just said it so casually... So many people are getting caught up in the fight for "equality" that they forget the facts. It isn't a bad thing that men and women are DIFFERENT - and not in all ways, but some ways it's obvious. Many of these differences are non-determinate factors in most life decisions, while others are more important. Some of these differences are caused by our culture, and some are natural. Some could or should be changed, and others are just fine and make the genders unique - and that goes for ALL genders and sexes, not just the stereotypical 2. I'm so unbelievably happy that you just said what you said @2:47+ THANK YOU!!!
+Josh Sisco Please list the genders?
Great lady, always an inspiration.
Came across this a little late but Jesus, I wanna HUG this woman! she is so nice and cool! And so smart too! I need to watch more of her!
I’m not a feminist, but I respect Christina a lot.
really great discussion, demands for evidence are so hot!
keep it up rubin
Thank you Christina💖
This woman is amazing! Thanks Dave, keep up the good work
Now this was an interesting interview, very refreshing. We need more of this!
Great channel Dave. Love watching your videos.
I'm not saying this to be thirsty or anything but despite her old age this lady is one of the most beautiful women I've ever seen and I mean that in every way that a woman can be beautiful. She's just on another level and she warms my heart. It's actually legit painful that so many women are so far removed from the decency and virtue that she openly displays and the fact that she's fought this fight for over 20 yrs against the vindictive spiteful man-haters gives me a bit of hope. Thank you, based mom.
Thank you so much for this show, Rubin.