Former Drug Smuggler Roger Reaves | PBD Podcast | EP 152

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  • Опубліковано 24 лип 2024
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    PBD Podcast Episode 152. In this episode, Patrick Bet-David is joined by Adam Sosnick and Roger Reaves.
    Buy Roger Reaves' book Smuggler: amzn.to/3MBTWJQ
    Visit Roger Reaves' online at: bit.ly/3F5UuoM
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    About:
    William Roger Reaves is an American pilot who was one of the most prolific drug smugglers in history. He worked for Pablo Escobar and the Medellín Cartel. Reaves employed Barry Seal as a pilot in many of his drug-smuggling operations. In his memoir, Smuggler (2016), Reaves claims that Seal paid millions in bribes to the Clintons when Bill Clinton was governor of Arkansas in order to land planes carrying cocaine at Mena, Arkansas.
    About Co-Host:
    Adam “Sos” Sosnick has lived a true rags to riches story. He hasn’t always been an authority on money. Connect with him on his weekly SOSCAST here: • SOSCAST
    Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal bestseller Your Next Five Moves (Simon & Schuster) and a father of 2 boys and 2 girls. He currently resides in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida.
    To reach the Valuetainment team you can email: booking@valuetainment.com
    0:00 - Start
    1:50 - How Roger Reeves got into drug smuggling
    12:00 - The time Roger almost got caught
    18:00 - First time Roger got arrested
    20:00 - How Roger is such a likeable guy
    22:00 - Did the jail time turn him off/Why does he keep coming back
    25:00 - Roger's connection to Barry Seal
    31:00 - Middle man/The Big Phone Call
    36:00 - Why did his wife not stop/the money/what keeps him coming back
    38:00 - Roger's connections to Pablo/Ochoa
    45:00 - Barry Seal
    48:00 - How Roger got caught in the USA
    49:00 - Barry connections to USA/CIA- Who killed Barry
    53:00 - Run-ins with the mob
    55:00 - Time with Pablo & Ochoa
    59:00 - PBD's interview's with 'criminals'
    1:04:35 - Relationship with Pablo
    1:11:00 - Death penalty/Half of men don’t deserve to be locked up
    1:18:00 - The power of a father
    1:29:00 - Does he have any regrets
    1:35:00 - Toughest questions his kids asked him
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  • @artg2909
    @artg2909 2 роки тому +323

    BRING HIM BACK!!! PART 2 & 3 IS A MUST! GREAT EPISODE. I can listen to him speak ALL DAY LONG.

    • @Bryan-vw1xj
      @Bryan-vw1xj 2 роки тому +5

      That’s the first thing I thought when it was over! Pat needs to bring him back on!

    • @martin8829
      @martin8829 2 роки тому +4

      Check out lex Friedmans interview with him

    • @artg2909
      @artg2909 2 роки тому +1

      @@martin8829 thanks I sure will.

    • @tristanstahl2192
      @tristanstahl2192 2 роки тому

      Deadass

    • @woody816
      @woody816 2 роки тому

      @@martin8829 that's the best one

  • @australiasconservativexcon
    @australiasconservativexcon Рік тому +17

    I was in jail with this man in West Australia andnwe share the same last name worked in the same workshop in Casuarina Prison in the print shop. He was such a gentleman. I feel privileged to have met and conversated with this great man

    • @uk7900
      @uk7900 18 днів тому

      My GOODNESS. Wow 😮 Beautiful.

  • @Last_Chance.
    @Last_Chance. Рік тому +76

    Roger flew me from Mexico to Bastrop Texas back in 1972. I won't go into details but this man saved my life. I always wondered what happened to him. Glad to see he's still alive and doing well.

    • @juicy4joey
      @juicy4joey Рік тому +6

      you cant say that without any context! you think whatever it is people will come after you 50 years later come on plz tell your story

    • @OwnLaneTre
      @OwnLaneTre Рік тому +2

      @@juicy4joey it probably hurts him to speak on it in detail

    • @kick_then_shift
      @kick_then_shift Рік тому +3

      Are you part of the family that he smuggled into the country? I feel like they were from Colombia tho...

    • @Chris-ei7sh
      @Chris-ei7sh Рік тому +1

      Let’s hear the story?!?!?

    • @williamrae9954
      @williamrae9954 Рік тому +1

      Going loco,were we,ha ha?

  • @clarel3447
    @clarel3447 2 роки тому +178

    Now THIS is a podcast. Completely hooked from the moment Roger started talking.

    • @artg2909
      @artg2909 2 роки тому +3

      Me 2!!

    • @chriswalker9218
      @chriswalker9218 2 роки тому +9

      Go listen to his Lex Friedman interview. It's 2.5 hours long and absolutely amazing!! Lex let's him talk the entire time!

    • @tavaresmccree5005
      @tavaresmccree5005 2 роки тому +2

      That GA accent

    • @jayemeljay2117
      @jayemeljay2117 2 роки тому +2

      Too bad the other two need to step it up... They should be a lot more respectful..making jokes about someone been tortured..
      These two immature wannabe Rogans would have died as soon as they saw that hotpepper

    • @ruddawg5802
      @ruddawg5802 Рік тому

      Touché

  • @solaar11
    @solaar11 2 роки тому +126

    Powerful quote “a bird doesn’t have the child before it prepares a nest.” Very true. There are many with no guidance or role model to guide them for this. Christ prepares a home before we enter heaven, he prepared himself for the cross before we may have penance, he prepared a plan before the world was made. We need to teach responsibility and consequences.

    • @solaar11
      @solaar11 2 роки тому +2

      Just saw the end, that was my idea, make the petty crime criminals into tradesmen, carpenters, etc. they should move cities never to return their old neighborhood to avoid the crowd that brought them down too.

    • @justintrotter4186
      @justintrotter4186 2 роки тому

      #youSirrr #RGenius #GodBeGlorified #AllDay #AirnyDay

    • @SalsaMon45
      @SalsaMon45 2 роки тому +2

      The lion must pee and secure his land before he can mate. Natural law

    • @istovall2624
      @istovall2624 2 роки тому +1

      I couldnt stop thinking of this quote either

    • @petergiffin1270
      @petergiffin1270 2 роки тому

      Religious people can't see anything without putting a god somehow. Lol

  • @barkbros123
    @barkbros123 Рік тому +34

    The father part really touched me man, I grew up with out a father figure and shit….. it’s an important part of life that a lot of us miss out on.

    • @mr.makedonija2627
      @mr.makedonija2627 Рік тому +2

      Boys NEED their fathers. I wish I had one

    • @sam-the-man8500
      @sam-the-man8500 4 місяці тому

      YOU HAVE HIM IN YOUR SPRIT,HIS NAME IS GOD THE FATHER 🙏. THE FATHER,SON,AND HOLY SPIRIT MAKE YOU A MAN AS WHOLE💪🙏

  • @tigerrx7
    @tigerrx7 2 роки тому +17

    This gentleman is the kind you’d enjoy sitting and chatting with everyday after work and every weekend

  • @jbrows3730
    @jbrows3730 2 роки тому +11

    I really thank all of yous 💯 this means a lot to me tuning in from Ontario 🇨🇦

  • @HeritageSeedBank
    @HeritageSeedBank 2 роки тому +9

    I like Rogers idea of Prison Reform. When I did my prison time I spent every day working on myself. Spiritually, Mentally, Physically. Studying, Working out and figuring out who I was, and where I wanted to go. I refused to allow the state to take this time from me, and instead used it to work on myself.

  • @adamm.2927
    @adamm.2927 2 роки тому +8

    Ive been listening to podcast from day 1 but this episode is in the top 5. Daaammnnn I could listen to his stories whole day.. It’s even the first time that pat en Adam barely asked questions bc of his stories..

  • @pollygonzalez1838
    @pollygonzalez1838 Рік тому +13

    You have to bring Roger back for part 2 & 3 !!! Awesome interview with over the top stories!!!

  • @JacksonAxe
    @JacksonAxe 2 роки тому +13

    01:13:06
    'These teeth are not my own...I left THEM in a man's neck...'
    Why?
    'He was winning.' lol

  • @raidercoppodcastnation5119
    @raidercoppodcastnation5119 2 роки тому +10

    This man, is a man's man. Genius on prison reform on teaching a trade. Blessings.

  • @John-ld8yf
    @John-ld8yf 11 місяців тому +3

    RR is a classy man!! He stood-up all 33 yrs..
    THAT SPEAKS VOLUME!!

  • @ramoncabrera9571
    @ramoncabrera9571 2 роки тому +7

    Wow wow!!! What an interview with this gentleman Roger Reaves. That goes to show you the mercy of God its never too late to turn your life around no matter what you have done and no matter how old you are. I'm listening to Roger and its like he was directing a movie straight out of Hollywood. God Bless you Roger and Thank you PBD for such awesome interviews you have done. Please bring back to finish the 90% of his story lol.😀😉👍👍

  • @justsomeguy1141
    @justsomeguy1141 2 роки тому +5

    This guy is just incredible. Hits me in the heart every time I hear him tell his story.

  • @DB800187
    @DB800187 2 роки тому +4

    Best episode ever!!! I could listen to him all day. Fascinating stories!! You should bring him back and just let him tell more of things that happened to him for 2 or 3 hours.

  • @billiewatkins9720
    @billiewatkins9720 2 роки тому +12

    THIS IS WHY THIS IS THE BEST SHOW OUT THERE I DIDNT THINK IT WOULD BE THIS GOOD BUT WOW THIS COULD BE THE BEST SHOW YOU GUYS HAVE DONE YET KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK!!

    • @martin8829
      @martin8829 2 роки тому

      Check out lex Friedmans interview it’s better. The problem with Patrick is he knows all the facts all the story’s and pushes people keeps interrupting he might as well sit there by him self and tell the story completely unnatural

  • @godiskungen27
    @godiskungen27 Рік тому +4

    Protect Reaves at all cost in this world such fascinating man really show how complex Life is and still he holds a big heart and smile ❤❤

  • @marksullivan3424
    @marksullivan3424 2 роки тому +6

    I could listen to this man talk all day

  • @WillSmith-wb1wv
    @WillSmith-wb1wv Рік тому +4

    Once again another AMAZING podcast thank you so much , I particularly liked when he said family planning is important , “a bird builds a nest before laying a egg but humans don’t do the same”

  • @stephenherring6219
    @stephenherring6219 2 роки тому +8

    I grew up in Baton Rouge during this time , Barry was highly regarded in the community.
    “ Double Crossed “ is a much more accurate account of the Barry Seal story played by Dennis Hopper. It was an older HBO film I believe.

  • @mrjamestown93
    @mrjamestown93 2 роки тому +3

    This exactly why i love PBD. What an absolutely phenomenal story.

  • @1erwayne
    @1erwayne 2 роки тому +6

    I could listen to him tell stories for a week! Great podcast PBD.

  • @ifyournotfirstyourlast7622
    @ifyournotfirstyourlast7622 2 роки тому +11

    Roger reeves is just a legit good guy and he always paints everyone in an honest light, other people just want to make everyone seem like monsters.

    • @jackhalas9493
      @jackhalas9493 2 роки тому +1

      He's got class & he doesn't speak poorly of others. Good traits in that life.

    • @jessejones3075
      @jessejones3075 Рік тому

      He's a monster 👻 👽. U see a baby 👶 get eaten by mountain 🦁. That don't effect your humanity. Yep u are of Satan. And he say he's a Christian ✝️ 🙄. I must say Yahweh spare his life. He should be telling people about YAH MERCY 🥺. TELLING PEOPLE TO REPENT AND BE BAPTIZED IN JESUS CHRIST. ACTS 2:38

    • @closer20jc
      @closer20jc Рік тому

      ​@Jesse Jones and this is why people are always so annoyed by Christians.

  • @76blackwidow
    @76blackwidow 2 роки тому +5

    Thank you! Mr Reaves is such a wonderful guest!

  • @detroitisback8021
    @detroitisback8021 2 роки тому +4

    He tells you what happened along his journeys but doesn't tell you about the journey itself. Smart man! He's extremely Disciplined in the mind

  • @andifaye1088
    @andifaye1088 Рік тому

    LOVE this conversation. So interesting. Love your views on fatherhood and parenting. Please have Roger back. He’s the coolest.

  • @joelbest5491
    @joelbest5491 2 роки тому +9

    One of the best episodes on PBD. Amazing story. I couldn’t stop listening.

    • @kick_then_shift
      @kick_then_shift Рік тому +1

      Was one of the worst really Patrick was rushing him through the entire thing. This man's story's are fsr better then what you got here.

    • @joelbest5491
      @joelbest5491 Рік тому +1

      @@kick_then_shift Shawn Ryan just interviewed him on his show. It was better

    • @kick_then_shift
      @kick_then_shift Рік тому

      @@joelbest5491 I've seen it. Best thing about Shawn is he's not scared to sit down and do a 6 hour interview. He doesn't rush his guests let's them tell their story how they want to tell it.

  • @juliomendez117
    @juliomendez117 Рік тому +3

    I could listen to Old School's stories for days and never get bored!

  • @nebojsailic99
    @nebojsailic99 2 роки тому +1

    Man,i can't remember when i enjoyed so much listening podcast. Great job Patrick, amazing guest and great questions. 👌👌👏

  • @RedsBigRig
    @RedsBigRig 2 роки тому +4

    I have watched other interviews of this man! Great man! I have a similarish/issshh story myself. Thank god it didn’t pan out the way things ended..!! Bless this man!!!

  • @benwilliams5236
    @benwilliams5236 Рік тому +4

    1:23:15 - I fired my parents. For gross negligence. When I realised that nothing I did would ever be good enough for them, life began. Now, I focus on pleasing Yehovah and I'm pretty sure I'm on the right path.

  • @andilenhlamba2115
    @andilenhlamba2115 2 роки тому +6

    Pat has a funny sense of humor, liked the part where he asked the guest if he ever tried to introduce Jesus to Pablo Escobar...LOL

  • @riceflatpicking4954
    @riceflatpicking4954 2 роки тому +3

    I’m reading his book Smuggler right now, it’s fantastic. Highly recommend.

  • @josephdimick1397
    @josephdimick1397 2 роки тому +6

    Great podCast i wish it was longer i seen Roger on a podcast of Lex Fridmans it went longer and had more details anyway great one i love this guy

  • @josephhernandez1850
    @josephhernandez1850 Рік тому +4

    Netflix I can see making a series on this man God bless him 👏🏼

  • @indysjumparound9743
    @indysjumparound9743 2 роки тому +10

    This was a good interview choice Pat! Really enjoyed his story

  • @MatrixServicesLLC
    @MatrixServicesLLC Рік тому +4

    As I was listening I thought this guy is awesome! And just a treat to listen to.
    Then saw the comments and probably the most liked ever!

  • @sherylscott6429
    @sherylscott6429 2 роки тому +4

    Obsessed! Amazing story telling with a smooth and silky voice.

  • @antjmi
    @antjmi 2 роки тому +4

    My favourite PBD podcast so far....amazing!

  • @PULAG
    @PULAG Рік тому +3

    7 minutes in and i love this guy lol he's awesome

  • @tomierobert
    @tomierobert Рік тому +5

    Perfectly pronouncing Spanish words with a thick Georgian accent. Roger is 💯

  • @stephengreen2898
    @stephengreen2898 Рік тому +2

    Most incredible INTERVIEW I have ever heard… I wish I could meet Roger… We have much in common and KNOW the GRACE of God.

  • @anthonysantiago7515
    @anthonysantiago7515 2 роки тому +4

    Absolutely love what you're doing Patrick keep up the good work.👍

  • @dbreezy1up652
    @dbreezy1up652 2 роки тому +3

    This is more entertaining than watching a movie. This might be my favorite episode.

  • @Chiefbeach300
    @Chiefbeach300 2 роки тому +2

    DEFINITELY NEED MORE EPISODES WITH THIS LEGEND

  • @Barbara-pz5fc
    @Barbara-pz5fc Рік тому

    I have read his book a while back I have been waiting so long for somebody to have a Podcast with him thank you

  • @fegtynpax5147
    @fegtynpax5147 Рік тому +2

    This is the podcast that got me listening to PBD podcast. Good stuff.

  • @llerenamedia
    @llerenamedia Рік тому +2

    Lead • Respect • Improve • Love

  • @ToddMLewis
    @ToddMLewis 2 роки тому +9

    Just popped in to say I miss the old style of podcast, I never missed an episode. Now I only watch when there is a guest that interests me, which is very rare.

    • @MaryOKC
      @MaryOKC 2 роки тому

      I agree with you. Smugglers, murders, cartel, CIA …

    • @JET13B
      @JET13B 2 роки тому +1

      Same here. Used to look forward to every podcast with the old crew in the garage, debating and discussing. This will be the first PBD podcast I’ll watch in months, only because of the guest.

    • @TheArbz
      @TheArbz 2 роки тому +2

      You nailed it. The old crew was awesome.

    • @chriswalker9218
      @chriswalker9218 2 роки тому +1

      This should have been an old Valuetainment episode like Sammy The Bull. Rodgers interview on the Lex Friedman podcast is 100% better. Lex let's him talk to 2.5 hours straight without interrupting him.

    • @life.is.miraculous1175
      @life.is.miraculous1175 2 роки тому

      Agreed, I miss that cozy huddled feel of the old studio.

  • @michaelgraham8788
    @michaelgraham8788 10 місяців тому +2

    Ole Roger..this dude was born to be an OutLaw..what a character..could you just imagine him being your Grandpa even?!

  • @frankprettitore6192
    @frankprettitore6192 Рік тому +2

    Patrick you are the best interviewer and , always have a message in your podcast.. Thank You

  • @tonymartin2116
    @tonymartin2116 Рік тому

    AWESOME!! probably my favorite interview Pat! the segway into the point about parenting was just great! I can't wait to meet you one day! And I have to interview you! Thanks again

  • @ServiceProcess
    @ServiceProcess 2 роки тому +1

    That's a very sellable voice Roger has and oh so very interesting stories. I've just purchased the audible book on Audible. Looking forward to it.

  • @MCMAGIC.
    @MCMAGIC. 2 роки тому +13

    Roger is the definition of Integrity 🏆

  • @4EverYoung125
    @4EverYoung125 Рік тому +1

    Please bring him back I listened to this one 4 months later…
    Wow what a story. I never know Barry Seal worked for somebody. When I’ve herd Barry’s story it was always told as it he was a lone operator.

  • @bdingo
    @bdingo Рік тому +2

    Terrific interview with such an interesting American ! Loved it ! What a hell of an adventure! How can one not like/love Roger ? Bring him back ! Make a better movie than American Made about Rogers life and it will be a smash hit ! Cheers guys and Roger ….!

  • @bobconnor7392
    @bobconnor7392 2 роки тому +2

    Absolutely riveting interview! Fantastic show guys!!!

  • @PepeFuego369
    @PepeFuego369 2 роки тому +2

    This is amazing. I want to see this guy live.

  • @pab702
    @pab702 2 роки тому +6

    What Roger said about prison reform sounds spot on. If we want prisoners to be productive citizens, we need to give them the tools to do it (instead of the revolving door “for profit” system we have now). Excellent podcast!

    • @Robert06087
      @Robert06087 2 роки тому +1

      unfortunately I dont think it will ever change , just like curing cancer - too much $$$ to be made.

    • @te2952
      @te2952 Рік тому

      I disagree. Roger had all kinds of different trades and made a decent living, BUT he decided to go full time smuggling drugs, and it didn't keep him out of jail or prison. Roger himself returned many times, so it didn't work.

  • @ShugSniper
    @ShugSniper Рік тому

    i literally kan listen to him speak all day . great conversation

  • @nicholasvarro7382
    @nicholasvarro7382 2 роки тому +1

    We live in the most best times to see these interviews

  • @FreeSlatt722
    @FreeSlatt722 Рік тому +2

    Man getting ride motorcycles with Pablo is crazy 🔥🔥🔥

  • @AbleHammer
    @AbleHammer 2 роки тому +4

    What a story is an understatement!

  • @dkelly387z
    @dkelly387z 4 місяці тому

    Seriously this is the BEST interview I've seen from PBD
    💯♥️

  • @AmericanGamingSupply
    @AmericanGamingSupply 2 роки тому +6

    It’s usually a 2 hour show. We want the full 2 hours minimum

  • @shabadime10
    @shabadime10 Рік тому

    What a good man Roger is. What a wonderful family he has. God definitely blessed him. There was an Angel 😇 by his side the entire time.

  • @PhillyArab215
    @PhillyArab215 Рік тому +2

    I agree with the parenting things , especially for those who didn’t have good fathers and are trying to be good fathers but are starting from 0 because they never experienced it , now that does not mean a father that didn’t have a father can only be a good father with help but it does having the help/advice it helps a lot

  • @elnatha07
    @elnatha07 2 роки тому +21

    Dude should have his own podcast

  • @Chiefbeach300
    @Chiefbeach300 2 роки тому +3

    This guy needs his own show! Wow, what a cool dude!

  • @jermz8273
    @jermz8273 2 роки тому +28

    He really is a great story teller. Wish I had that ability, I could’ve listened to him for another 2 or 3 hours more.

    • @AdamSchelenbergCom
      @AdamSchelenbergCom 2 роки тому +3

      Maybe he's not a great story teller. Maybe he has great stories to tell?

    • @jeffmiller3499
      @jeffmiller3499 2 роки тому

      He's on lex friedmans podcast. I encourage everyone to listen. His wife joins at the end and is just as described 💚 & if you enjoy and appreciate people like Roger you would love lex. Very unique person. A genius MIT scientist that believes in love and compassion above all else.

    • @Kekou735
      @Kekou735 2 роки тому +1

      Stop wishing and start doing! I’m actively reading about and applying good storytelling techniques. There’s a lot of content on the subject.

    • @mrmattstiltner
      @mrmattstiltner 2 роки тому +1

      He does the narration on the audiobook format, and that alone, is all I needed to know.

    • @Trav81888
      @Trav81888 2 роки тому

      It’s hard to be a bad story when it’s your own. can’t fuck it up that bad. his ability to paint a picture is on another level.

  • @fiftyseventh
    @fiftyseventh 2 роки тому +3

    Great podcast! You’re the best in the biz PBD team

  • @shawnorelien6720
    @shawnorelien6720 Рік тому +1

    11;19 he caught himself about to say a name and send “Pedro” instead 😂😂🐐

  • @NonStopJames1
    @NonStopJames1 Рік тому +2

    Great episode! Really enjoyed the stories

  • @Jerm-the_worm
    @Jerm-the_worm 2 роки тому +5

    Awesome interview !

  • @samarin6411
    @samarin6411 2 роки тому +4

    This one was super dope! I have no money, so I’ll try to smuggle his book somewhere. But YNFM bought 2 versions❤❤

  • @edmundellis1620
    @edmundellis1620 11 місяців тому +1

    What a interview,PBD you WOW,the smuggler absolute LEGEND...

  • @danwilliams8771
    @danwilliams8771 9 місяців тому +1

    What a powerful interview !!! Love it

  • @josh3960
    @josh3960 2 роки тому +2

    Can’t wait for the series

  • @MusicProduc3r
    @MusicProduc3r 2 роки тому +17

    An interview with Carlos Lehder would be sick!!!! He was released from prison last year

    • @joeysausage3437
      @joeysausage3437 2 роки тому

      Fire useless adam.

    • @anewdayali2538
      @anewdayali2538 2 роки тому +2

      Imagine the stories he would tell if he could still remember them

    • @154g
      @154g Рік тому

      Yea thats what were missing

  • @kgagarin5699
    @kgagarin5699 2 роки тому +5

    This one is great!

  • @bleueyeddevl
    @bleueyeddevl 2 роки тому +30

    Imagine having this level of thrill-seeking and rugged doggedness against all odds. It's stubborn country boys like this why some used to say, "One rebel soldier could whip ten Yankees.".

    • @solaar11
      @solaar11 2 роки тому +3

      Haha he is stubborn

    • @fowchiiiliedpuppiesdied
      @fowchiiiliedpuppiesdied 2 роки тому

      Don’t glorify this jackass. You should se the legacy of Escobar on the city of Medellin. I have never seen so many child prostitutes, kids sniffing glue, broken people, crazed maniacs so high they charge at you, for no reason, it is unreal. This guy should be ashamed of himself.

    • @johnfiftos7953
      @johnfiftos7953 2 роки тому +2

      Times have changed. It's a suicide mission now make no mistakes

    • @JakeWitmer
      @JakeWitmer 2 роки тому

      ...Unless those Yankees were Grant or Sherman, in which case, the slave-holding Southerners would fall dead by the wagon-load, or, more likely, they'd relinquish their rifles...like the bigoted cowards they were. Stonewall Jackson was a coward.

    • @BST-lm4po
      @BST-lm4po 2 роки тому

      You don't think there's country boys up North? You Southern boys need to get outside the ten mile radius that you grew up in!
      I've lived in Texas and Georgia and they've got nothing on Wisconsin, Michigan or Pennsylvania ! There's more deer hunters per capita in Pennsylvania and Wisconsin than any state in the country!

  • @mehditerfous
    @mehditerfous Рік тому

    Man I can sit with this guy wit hours man great storyteller wit great stories

  • @minnesota6125
    @minnesota6125 2 роки тому +6

    This is a guy I would want to meet at a bar while all my boring friends and girlfriend left while I’m there listening to every detail

  • @MikesWorldunfiltered
    @MikesWorldunfiltered 2 роки тому +4

    I gotta get the book!!! Good one Pat

  • @stephengreen2898
    @stephengreen2898 Рік тому

    Nate Saint was my hero at 7years old…. I read “Jungle Pilot” and latter started a Missionary Aviation School at Piedmont Bible College… I trained MANY MISSIONARY AVIATION FELLOWSHIP Pilots. I enjoyed this interview so much… I have kin folks in South Georgia

  • @kimobush2287
    @kimobush2287 Рік тому

    One of the greatest podcast and stories told on pbd ❤❤❤

  • @kotielombard4706
    @kotielombard4706 Рік тому +1

    Please bring him back! Amazing man

  • @xNobleSavagex
    @xNobleSavagex 2 роки тому +4

    "A mountain lion ate the baby. Nothing left but a head and some diapers." I swear when he says it, there could be someone baking oatmeal cookies while it's happening.

  • @gavinsuminguit4686
    @gavinsuminguit4686 2 роки тому +3

    Trying to fix the product after it's been broken for 18 years. I felt that so much man. It's exhausting 😪

  • @jeffmiller3499
    @jeffmiller3499 2 роки тому +10

    I love and respect this man a lot. He's just so pleasant and thoughtful. If you liked this interview I encourage you to listen to him on lex Friedman, it's a bit longer and more in depth. Plus, his wife joins towards the end, & she's just as he described her. I wish there to be more people like them.

    • @donatta1857
      @donatta1857 2 роки тому

      That particular episode is a must for a long distant driving.

    • @anthonylewis1980
      @anthonylewis1980 2 роки тому

      Love and respect a former drug smuggler???

  • @jasonolinger7585
    @jasonolinger7585 2 роки тому +8

    We went from Roger telling a crazy story to Pat getting emotional talking about how important it is to raise kid for a 10 minute rant.

    • @cryptosammy
      @cryptosammy 2 роки тому +1

      He loves listening to himself talk

    • @te2952
      @te2952 Рік тому +1

      I disagree. Roger's story is fascinating, but they were trying to get to the root of why Roger kept going back to jail & prison himself when he had all kinds of trades to make a living. Unlike a lot of prisoners. Roger makes the suggestion at the end, but his answer is off. Roger had a private pilot license, he was a fireman, did contstruction work, and sold antiques on the side. Roger started just made a choice to do it full time smuggling cocaine. Why? It doesn't make sense, his trades didn't keep him out of prison and he went 20 something times. Think about it. Roger doesn't make sense. Something isn't right about it.They were trying to understand the reason just like myself. Something made him keep doing it, maybe it could just be he got greedy and loved money way too much

  • @wcoq458
    @wcoq458 Рік тому

    This is amazing! Thank you !

  • @te2952
    @te2952 Рік тому +1

    Great podcast. The two men asking Roger questions was spot on as I am trying to understand why he would do it. Roger says prisoners should learn a trade, BUT Roger had different trades. Pilot, fireman, sold antiques, and etc. All those trades didn't keep Roger from smuggling cocaine, and returning to prison numerous times. Why? It didn't keep him from going back. Roger had a lot of different trades that other prisoners don't have, but it didn't work with Roger, now did it? I noticed the two men were trying to understand the same thing that I was trying to understand. Roger acts like smuggling cocaine is okay, and making millions is what mattered to him. The LOVE of money is the root of all evil. Roger talks like he is a nice christian family man, thinks he is a great parent, and never taking responsibility that he smuggled drugs that could hurt families, parents, or other children that destroys others lives. The story of the lion eating the baby didn't seem to phase Roger. To me it is strange, and something is way off about him. I do hope he has changed his life around, and helps others understand it's not ok to do that kind of work no matter how good the money is for doing it. Yes his story is facinating, but it was wrong what he did, and he is asked 3 times, but he skirted around it. I do hope Roger has changed his ways, and I do wish him well.

  • @arianfusha1853
    @arianfusha1853 Рік тому +1

    Amazing episode! You can tell he's a solid man.

  • @javelinzamot9907
    @javelinzamot9907 Рік тому +1

    amazing storyteller who needs to watch a movie! man I love good stories.

  • @LottieLolLol
    @LottieLolLol Рік тому +1

    Please have Roger back! He’s a very interesting person.

  • @sinatra187
    @sinatra187 2 роки тому +7

    Roger needs to be a repeat guest on the show. Fly him back

  • @anthonyraybullard6053
    @anthonyraybullard6053 2 роки тому +5

    PBD is an awesome podcast. The 3 of you guys do a fantastic job!