[MKWii TAS] DS Peach Gardens (Superhopping) -

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  • Опубліковано 8 вер 2024
  • NOTE: This is a Tool-Assisted Speedrun. This time will not count on any real rankings. For more info, please visit tasvideos.org
    This run was performed on Dolphin 5.0 Lua Core with the use of Frame Advance, Savestates, TAS Input, TAS Toolkit, & Lua Scripts
    Authors: Thomas (Myself)
    This run beats the oldest BKT in the game, which stood for 2,841 days at the completion of this run. Due to the dolphin version that run was performed on, the ghost cannot be synced on console. Therefore I am racing Don Capri's 01:57.921 as it is the fastest run that syncs on console.
    This run makes use of an advanced movement technique known as Superhopping. Outside-drifting bikes have a special property that allows them a bit of extra movement in the air when they hop. This movement is not added to the vehicle speed, labeled "IV" on screen, but instead to an uncapped portion of your speed called the "External Velocity," labeled "XV" on screen.
    Normally, the External Velocity quickly disperses as soon as you land from the hop, however, by performing a specific sequence of inputs, the External Velocity is preserved even after landing on the ground, and the next Superhop adds more external velocity. By repeating this process many times, the game essentially gives you large amounts of "free speed" allowing you to easily reach and maintain a full 120KM/H.
    Peach Gardens presented me an extremely unique challenge that has never happened in a TAS before now. Due to the sheer amount of input changes on such a long track, I actually reach the games internal input limit. This is a memory restriction and without actually reprogramming the games verification system, this run cannot be saved after the beginning of lap 3. Due to being unable to save and TAS Code any progress on lap 3, The only way I could finish this TAS was to use a textfile to manually write every single input for the whole of lap 3 and play it back as a script using TASToolkit. This was beyond tedious but I am relatively happy with the final result.
    This run was recorded by myself and is the first time I have tried a HUD setup like this. The speedometers are unfortunately quite low quality as they are taken straight from the TAS Debug Panel created by Melg, Stebler, Kierio04, and Gaberboo, and upscaled 200% to be more visible. The audio also starts to desync around the point the Input Limit is reached and no amount of rerecording could fix it, so I can only guess the two could be linked.
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    Previous 3 Lap TAS BKT by TASPlasma (01:57.571) - TAS BKT Cut: -13.412
    ( • [MKWii TAS] - DS Peach... )
    Previous Flap TAS BKS by Kierio04 (35.926) - TAS BKS Cut: -1.892
    ( • rPG NU flap LOTAD )
    Music: Pokémon Mashup: "Battle! vs Unova Champion Iris!"
    ( • Pokémon Mashup: "Battl... )

КОМЕНТАРІ • 115

  • @vabold_
    @vabold_ Рік тому +122

    You might be asking what "IV" and "XV" is.
    "IV", or "Internal Velocity", is the speed of the vehicle. In most cases, the game will move the vehicle in whatever direction it's facing by this number. This is the number that is adjusted to account for off-road and acceleration.
    "XV", or "External Velocity", is a measure of how much momentum we have. Whenever we go off of a ramp, for example, this is where gravity is applied.
    These two velocity values are added together and capped at 120. (This is an oversimplification, you will notice that "SPEED" is usually not equal to "XV" + "IV")
    Whenever a bike hops and begins turning in the air, velocity is added to XV in relation to stick inputs. If we land before 3 frames of the hop pass, we can keep that velocity and hop again instantly, which gives us supergrinding. With an outside drifting bike, we can use the sliding momentum to build up XV, which gives us superhopping.

  • @typhoonthunder
    @typhoonthunder Рік тому +108

    couldn’t quite put my finger on what was missing from mariokart 8 until i realized it was the ability to get my bike caught in the ground and start zooming

  • @Jellopuff_TAS
    @Jellopuff_TAS Рік тому +72

    You know, I'm not that big a fan of superhopping, but even I acknowledge the absolute insanity that is this track. Super creative usage of both superhopping and supergrinding in a single run, and I of course have to give you props for textfiling the entirety of lap 3 to deal with the input limit. You are an absolute king, my dude.

    • @tzyagamalyezer5983
      @tzyagamalyezer5983 Рік тому +13

      same here man, I don't like superhopping because instead of watching normal driving all I see is spazzy hops and supergrinds but I gotta appreciate the innovation and effort

    • @kaibutsu7
      @kaibutsu7 Рік тому

      Same here

  • @MikeyLORR
    @MikeyLORR Рік тому +43

    If this isn't the peak of TAS, I don't know what is. Unbelievable run!

    • @katepuddings2
      @katepuddings2 Рік тому +2

      HELLO MIKEY

    • @MikeyLORR
      @MikeyLORR Рік тому +2

      @@katepuddings2 HI PUDDINGS FANCY SEEING YOU HERE

    • @katepuddings2
      @katepuddings2 Рік тому +2

      @@MikeyLORR WHAT A RUN! IS MKWII EVEN A VIDEO GAME ANYMORE?!

  • @NEVERDOORS
    @NEVERDOORS Рік тому +12

    this is one of the best IL TAS' ive ever seen... and wow what a setup to even get it to playback! incredible work. the superhop/music sync near the end of lap 1 fucking killed me, what a hot beat!

  • @EjayB
    @EjayB Рік тому +9

    Huge kudos to you for textfiling all of lap 3. Great run.

  • @omlett6482
    @omlett6482 Рік тому +8

    the part at 0:39 synced so well with the music wth

  • @lowercaseletters_
    @lowercaseletters_ Рік тому +11

    Awesome TAS. Shocked to see a run have so many inputs that this reaches the input limit. Is clipping the tree at the end not faster?

  • @Fuesch
    @Fuesch Рік тому +3

    Baited by the thumbnail, yet not disappointed. Good hob!

  • @SirLucas.
    @SirLucas. Рік тому +4

    Incredible run, amazing work Thomas!

  • @EclipseMKWii
    @EclipseMKWii Рік тому +1

    one of the most satisfying runs to watch

  • @saunaboi4910
    @saunaboi4910 Рік тому +3

    Incredible job, Thomas!

  • @TASSnoop
    @TASSnoop Рік тому +4

    Absurd run. Amazing work

  • @NMeade
    @NMeade Рік тому +8

    Incredible!

  • @MK8DXRecords
    @MK8DXRecords Рік тому +4

    WHAT

    • @louiswolfe5012
      @louiswolfe5012 11 місяців тому +1

      Only if it was possible in the booster course pass

  • @sefishmkwii9846
    @sefishmkwii9846 Рік тому +7

    MKWii 2022

  • @ewan1118
    @ewan1118 Рік тому +3

    this made me laugh, who would have thought going sideways would be the meta for tas, it's actually mind-blowing how far you've progressed!! (along with the people tasing mario kart wii)

  • @metarotta
    @metarotta Рік тому

    awesome to see both superhops and supergrinds in heavy use here

  • @jalenstimes7452
    @jalenstimes7452 Рік тому +3

    Imagine the original game developers coming back to their craft in 2022.

  • @brosrdumb38
    @brosrdumb38 Рік тому +5

    Input limit reached, output limit infinite

  • @NeviTheLettyFan
    @NeviTheLettyFan Рік тому

    This is amazing, love it when people push TAS to its limits

  • @GaelLazerYT
    @GaelLazerYT Рік тому

    Im still mind blown off this fire jumping start to stay in shroom speed all lap long

  • @bodaciousdasani
    @bodaciousdasani Рік тому

    Yoo. That was an awesome. Keep up the good work Thomas.

  • @SICW1970
    @SICW1970 Рік тому +1

    Great work Thomas

  • @Mxxntain.
    @Mxxntain. Рік тому +1

    MKWII physics for the win. Just a question, what do you use to record your footage? Do you use a capture card or shadowplay or something else?

    • @Jellopuff_TAS
      @Jellopuff_TAS Рік тому +2

      There's a feature within Dolphin called frame dumping that allows us to directly record frames without the need of a capture card and at whatever internal resolution we want.

  • @Ragemodepigeon
    @Ragemodepigeon Рік тому

    I really don't know what to say, what even has this game become lol. Anyway very good TAS, satisfying to watch and very speedy :D

  • @gave2haze
    @gave2haze Рік тому

    Ok officially the 2nd best speedrunner from farn 6th congrats

  • @danielchillis7878
    @danielchillis7878 2 місяці тому

    There’s a new ultra shortcut in this course.

  • @Storster
    @Storster Рік тому +1

    Wow, this is awesome

    • @Joshy-
      @Joshy- Рік тому +1

      did not know you were into mkwii

    • @Storster
      @Storster Рік тому +2

      @@Joshy- this game was my whole childhood from the ages of 8-14, I still revisit it briefly every so often

    • @Joshy-
      @Joshy- Рік тому +1

      @@Storster awesome, many things are changing as well as rta strats so keep an eye out :o

  • @aystrawberry1861
    @aystrawberry1861 Рік тому

    When the vehicle actually lives up to its name

  • @SpiltMySquash
    @SpiltMySquash Рік тому +1

    Okay cool, but that remix of Champion Iris's theme slaps

  • @vincenzofranchelli2201
    @vincenzofranchelli2201 Рік тому

    This is what mechanics tests arr talking about when they say assume friction is negligible

  • @spriterocks03
    @spriterocks03 Рік тому +1

    Gotta love the thumbnail

    • @louiswolfe5012
      @louiswolfe5012 Рік тому

      It's only possible with the Shooting Star
      Only Shooting Stars are capable of such thing
      Just kidding. It's because of how high they were shooting up.
      It's Just a joke
      But awesome

  • @LLInnovA
    @LLInnovA Рік тому +20

    Input limit reached. Wouldn't that make the run invalid?

    • @MKWiiTomas
      @MKWiiTomas  Рік тому +27

      yes

    • @MKWiiTomas
      @MKWiiTomas  Рік тому +2

      @@louiswolfe5012 I explained it in the description

    • @xxlarrytfvwxx9531
      @xxlarrytfvwxx9531 Рік тому

      What is the input limit for?

    • @veebee_38
      @veebee_38 Рік тому

      @@xxlarrytfvwxx9531 presumably so ghosts didn't take up too much storage, but don't quote me on this

    • @louiswolfe5012
      @louiswolfe5012 11 місяців тому

      @@MKWiiTomas what inputs are used for super hopping

  • @mkdasher
    @mkdasher Рік тому +1

    This is insane o:

  • @mileslin6495
    @mileslin6495 Рік тому

    Wow! That's so sick, awesome!

  • @anohana87
    @anohana87 Рік тому +3

    Lol thumbnail nice run !

    • @louiswolfe5012
      @louiswolfe5012 Рік тому +1

      It only makes sense
      It's the Shooting Star

  • @Psychomaniac14
    @Psychomaniac14 Рік тому

    omg it's another superhopping TAS

  • @dimrom
    @dimrom Місяць тому

    "Input limit reached."

  • @Itskchavz
    @Itskchavz Рік тому +1

    Nice Run!

  • @sarlaccpit_a
    @sarlaccpit_a Рік тому

    amazing run thomas :)

  • @josephjoestarsballs7418
    @josephjoestarsballs7418 Рік тому

    Amazing run!

  • @worldsboss
    @worldsboss Рік тому

    Wow, I didn’t even know that there was an input limit!

  • @c4rbin
    @c4rbin Рік тому +2

    "input limit reached"

  • @pple
    @pple Рік тому +1

    great job 👏

  • @rybertrion3642
    @rybertrion3642 6 місяців тому

    Congrats blake hopefully you can make the push for 1:43 now

  • @1onedriver
    @1onedriver Рік тому +1

    insanity

  • @INFINITY_99
    @INFINITY_99 Рік тому

    Awesome run! 🔥 Can superhopping be done without TAS?

  • @Starstrike21
    @Starstrike21 Рік тому

    super cool strats

  • @SirCorvid
    @SirCorvid Рік тому

    the input limit seems very problematic for verification and optimization, i imagine many tracks will be hard capped by it. any plans by the community's coders to modify the game and lift this restriction? (i have no idea how much effort is required, the description implies the community could fix it)
    great job on this tas btw thomas, very smart strats. one of my favorites across all tracks so far :)

    • @vabold_
      @vabold_ Рік тому

      We could possibly fix it by extending the game's limit for ghost file size.

  • @KaiMK
    @KaiMK Рік тому +1

    amazing

  • @GaelLazerYT
    @GaelLazerYT Рік тому

    Wait how do you I'ven do that , last time I was doing a TAS it could but save cuz it said too many input etc something like that, how did you bypass that

  • @gamertagge8429
    @gamertagge8429 Рік тому

    I would love comparison infinity bullet bill that steer to get the lowest time against tas time lol

  • @nitrobozo4464
    @nitrobozo4464 Рік тому

    Thats Fire man

  • @TiO2_
    @TiO2_ Рік тому

    Great run

  • @yvindandvik7094
    @yvindandvik7094 Рік тому

    Input limit reached

  • @justin3055
    @justin3055 Рік тому +1

    Siiick

  • @StepBaum
    @StepBaum Рік тому

    This looked crazy to me

  • @MitchAUS_
    @MitchAUS_ Рік тому

    Incredible

  • @jammies701
    @jammies701 Рік тому +1

    Bonkers

  • @cheesegloriouscheese
    @cheesegloriouscheese Рік тому +1

    Crazy

  • @olivercarlsen7706
    @olivercarlsen7706 Рік тому

    Can someone help me, I really want to superhop with tas but how do I do that?

  • @Reonch219
    @Reonch219 Рік тому +1

    どうしたらこんな事が出来るんだ

  • @user-sz7xt1oo1m
    @user-sz7xt1oo1m Рік тому

    cómo isiste para quombertite. en NIn tomas

  • @danielchillis7878
    @danielchillis7878 Рік тому

    Nice record.

  • @Speedster428
    @Speedster428 Рік тому

    Wait, what is imput limit

  • @thijmencornelissen8722
    @thijmencornelissen8722 Рік тому

    Input limet reached?? what's that? some kind of a Funky virus?

  • @user-rd7rq6qw9d
    @user-rd7rq6qw9d Рік тому

    やりますねぇ!

  • @masonhhoffman
    @masonhhoffman Рік тому

    I didn't even know there *was* an input limit wtf

  • @atlafan7364
    @atlafan7364 Рік тому +1

    what in the hell is this, TASES really reach input limits now, huh?

  • @apaulsenyt
    @apaulsenyt Рік тому +1

    Doing this without hacking seems imposible

  • @camlan11
    @camlan11 Рік тому

    I don't get it. If you can't record inputs without writing to a textfile, how is this a legitimate TAS? If you can just change any parameters you want, why not mod the speed while you're at it?

    • @MKWiiTomas
      @MKWiiTomas  Рік тому

      I don’t think you understand how using textfiles works. I’m not editting anything other than the chain of inputs used to complete the run. No parameters were altered.

    • @camlan11
      @camlan11 Рік тому

      @@MKWiiTomas ah okay. I don't really know how these Mario Kart Wii TASes work. I'm a bit confused on why you couldn't keep recording inputs in the TAS, after the inputs of the time trial hit it's limit. Well, I'm not really sure where the limit is enforced anyway. Is it in the time trial ghost data?
      I guess the tools you guys use usually modify the ghost data directly, instead of just playing the game like a regular TAS?

    • @campbellblock3061
      @campbellblock3061 Рік тому

      @@camlan11 the input limit is the actual amount of memory allocated to save ghost inputs. This recording was done by replaying inputs from a text file using a script. It is actually more similar to input recordings in other game tases since they don’t have built-in recordings as part of the game.

  • @PyraminxstarsHD
    @PyraminxstarsHD Рік тому +1

    Gigachad. TASPlasma is such a noob, how can he lose over 10 seconds smh

  • @rngblackbeard4498
    @rngblackbeard4498 Рік тому

    how tf did you do that sideways thing

  • @WSUTH
    @WSUTH Рік тому

    The input viewer rn 😢

  • @ZumoDePapaya
    @ZumoDePapaya Рік тому +1

    Do you plan on making a version of this TAS that doesn't go over the input limit?

  • @Zachruff
    @Zachruff Рік тому +1

    gaming

  • @jbomb7867
    @jbomb7867 Рік тому +1

    That's kinda fast

  • @aidan-dx8et
    @aidan-dx8et Рік тому

    how did u get ur game to be high quality

    • @lowercaseletters_
      @lowercaseletters_ Рік тому

      By using Dolphin. Dolphin has a feature called frame dumping that allows him to directly record frames without the need of a capture card and at whatever internal resolution he wants.

  • @user--njtkjOlcotIq5s
    @user--njtkjOlcotIq5s Рік тому +1

    ヤバすぎ

  • @Nao-ll7su
    @Nao-ll7su Рік тому +1

    this is ridiculous is a good way lol

    • @louiswolfe5012
      @louiswolfe5012 Рік тому +1

      It's only possible to make this ridiculous shot of an improvement because of the Shooting Star

  • @tdm3bros
    @tdm3bros Рік тому +1

    Ayo wtf??

  • @fallamos
    @fallamos Рік тому

    Phoon playing MKW:

  • @Fukurou-MK8D-
    @Fukurou-MK8D- Рік тому

    0:38音ハメしてて草

  • @tylerlarsen1842
    @tylerlarsen1842 Рік тому

    YOU CAN SUPERHOP THE SHORTCUT?! SEEMS OP PLS NERF!

  • @user-uc2jl9oi3e
    @user-uc2jl9oi3e Рік тому

    too fast🥴

  • @nate7251
    @nate7251 Рік тому

    wtf this game sucks

    • @Ascension721
      @Ascension721 Рік тому

      nah i think its pretty awesome still.