Actually in the intro cutscene in Dread, Adam literally tells her she isn’t getting paid enough for this shit. So… no she’s not getting paid a lot for this.
Perhaps Samus feels responsible for the X menace, and wants to put a definitive end to it. Hence why Raven sent the video to the federation in the first place, as he knew she'd feel that obligation?
@@Rickfernello Oh she definitely took the bounty as a personal vendetta. That doesn’t change the fact that she isn’t getting paid enough for this shit.
@@Rickfernello Wait so the video he sent in caused a legit bounty? Who tf other than Samus the ONLY ONE IMMUNE TO THE X would take the bounty?! Like I know one of the Prime games had few other bounty hunters but they should do that again, it just kinda.. fits that there would be other bounty hunters..
Samus literally having a bodycount involving 2 Planetary Genocides of Sapient species and 3 destroyed planets which Thanos Snapped several thousand animal species out of existance
I am impressed what Mercury Steam did with the Metroid franchise. Metroid Dread has shown us how the Spanish studio has improved since their Castlevania Lords of Shadow days.
You know, I used to think Samus was kinda bland as a character, having only played a couple of the games and not seen any other related media. I assumed that her main and almost only appeal was that she's a badass space warrior and not much else. So thanks for making this video that showed me she's not just a badass killing machine. She's a badass killing machine that loves animals.
@@isaiahkayode6526 Yeah. Could you imagine if Spyro got confirmed for Smash and Samus mixed the two purple dragons up? Samus: *Gasp* Ridley! Spyro: Uh... Why do I hear Doom music?
Prime is canon though. Ridley's inclusion in Samus Returns proved it, and then Sakamoto literally confirmed it not too long ago in a Gameinformer interview.
@@RatchildUK Well, that’s the only overt connection. I mostly see Prime’s canon relevance as just more and more experience and legend buildup for Samus. It makes it so that even by Metroid 2 she’s already got a long and storied resume.
Playing these games in isolation, it's almost too easy to ignore Samus as a character altogether. She's basically just an avatar to get you to spin, shoot, and solve puzzles. Which is fine, just that I never cared for her as a character... ...until I played all of the games in chronological order (remakes instead of the OGs just for the sake of ease) during the lead-up to Dread, something I hadn't done before this year. And by the time I was heading to fight SR-X at the end of Fusion, something surprised me: by playing through her story like that, I'd become emotionally invested in her story. That would've seemed ridiculous to me when I was younger, but playing them all in order really put her entire journey - her stubbornness, vulnerability, empathy, anger, and unflinching tenacity - into perspective. All told with in-game scenarios and _very_ few cutscenes. Playing through Dread with those four games fresh in my mind like that has been so rewarding. Story beats that I otherwise would've skipped to get to the action now hold enormous weight. All of that accomplished without 200 pages of in-game dialogue or half-hour cinematics. For a series so dark and grotesque, it's kind of incredible how magical 2D Metroid games are, huh?
You know one way I think Samus's infamous freakout scene could have worked? It makes absolutely no sense that Samus would be frozen in fear at the sight of Ridley. But one emotional reaction that would make complete sense would be blind rage. At this point in the timeline, Samus has faced this monster not once, not twice, not even thrice, but at least five times. And every single time she walked away from his smouldering remains, sincerely believing that her parents had been avenged, only for him to come back again and again. At this point, Samus just going into a berserker state at the sight of him would make complete sense.
@@cavemanbuddyolpal Imagine how fucking badass it would've been if she just immediately, without hesitation, just activates all of her upgrades and *destroys* Ridley completely. Less of a boss fight and more of a one sided slaughter. It would've been an incredible moment in an otherwise okay Metroid game. But unfortunately that wasn't the game we got.
@@tgr3423 the best way of handling it while keeping a proper boss fight would be she goes fucking berserk and then "remember me" [i legit do not remember his name] makes her snap back to her senses before she gets herself killed
Super Metroid is the ONLY time Ridley, the asshole that ate all 3 of her humanoid parents and caused the destruction of both of her homes, the first home and first 2 parents being in front of her when she was THREE YEARS OLD, actually died. She KNEW he got away and survived all of the other encounters. On top of that every single time before, AND AFTER Other M in the timeline she had warning that Ridley would probably be showing up so she could mentally prepare herself. Other M is the ONLY time in the games that she goes into a full on PTSD panic attack because it's the only time in the games she couldn't prepare herself for the encounter. You clearly are a fake fan that never read the canonical pre-Zero Mission manga covering Samus's childhood and early adulthood (before becoming a bounty hunter and taking the job to cleanse her second home.)
@@alicesteelI have read the manga. And I've played every game. I have seen every single encounter Samus has had with this monster. From her very first encounter as a child where she dared to hope she could befriend the murderer, all the way up to her battle with an X parasite wearing his skin. And every single time, Samus blew this bastard away and it seemed to all the world that he was dead and dust only to discover that he had been rebuilt as a f&*%ing cyborg, been revived as a phazon mutant, or had an entire army of clones on standby. What the hell are you talking about?
Samus from Zero Mission to Super Metroid at Seeing Ridley: "How many times do I have to teach you this lesson, old man!?" Samus during Other M: **Shooketh**
Considering that during Other M, Samus had just defeated Ridley and blew up the planet he was on before immediately going to the Bottle Ship and finding a clone of him there completely unaffected by their last encounter…yeah, I’d say it’s understandable that she’d be shook. Claiming that moment’s out-of-character, while ignoring the contradiction that is the “Space Pirate Home-world” is just plain silly.
@@notgonnapay Samus had left Ridley for dead up to 3-5 times by Other M The only feelings she should have for him at that point is either unbridled rage or to be inured. Not a paralyzing panic attack. Also what contradiction? The Pirate Homeworld (also known as Urtraghus by the Pirates and Planet SN-883 by the Galactic Federation) seen in Metroid Prime 3 was stated to be one of many Pirate Homeworlds. They are a group of many alien species.
@@Teknanam Super Metroid is the ONLY time Ridley, the asshole that ate all 3 of her humanoid parents and caused the destruction of both of her homes, the first home and first 2 parents being in front of her when she was THREE YEARS OLD, actually died. She KNEW he got away and survived all of the other encounters. On top of that every single time before, AND AFTER Other M in the timeline she had warning that Ridley would probably be showing up so she could mentally prepare herself. Other M is the ONLY time in the games that she goes into a full on PTSD panic attack because it's the only time in the games she couldn't prepare herself for the encounter.
27:38 This is the first time I've seen this dialog and it's extremely funny to me. I love how Adam's basically like "you _definitely_ shouldn't destroy the station, and _definitely_ not by doing this exact sequence of actions"
I remember reading in another Metroid comment section that in Super Metroid, when Samus returns to the Space Colony to rescue the baby, Ridley leaves whenever Samus' health gets low enough that it triggers her suit's alarm to go off. Later when Samus has a run-in with the now wild baby, it drains her health as it doesn't initially recognize her probably due to its instincts to feed and survive on the planet since its capture. The baby only stops once it hears that same warning alarm from the encounter with Ridley and flees (as mentioned, most likely in shame). Then, once again, during Samus' fight with Mother Brain, Samus is left with barely enough health that triggers the suit's alarm while Mother Brain charges a final shot. The baby hears the alarm and immediately rushes back to rescue its surrogate mother and ultimately gives its life for Samus. Super Metroid has a ton of these tiny details that is absolutely insane to look back on since its release in 1994. It's even crazier now seeing as what Dread has done and what is open to possibilities for future titles. Great video, all in all! Can't wait for more of these 'In The Mind of: X'.
Other M is a weird quandary for me since I like the ideas behind the story. It’s just the execution of those ideas was sadly not done well in a convincing manner.
@@2yoyoyo1Unplugged unfortunately that’s not saying much. Samus Freaking out over 3 time dead riddly is still so Baffling. Other M should have been a Prequel to 1 and that probably would have helped a lot with the Narrative.
@@manuelredgrave8348 Oh that would make it So much better. Literally just make her a Federation Marine this she has to listen to and Obey orders. It allows Adam to be a bit dickish in a Commander sort of Way. And by making it Samus first or Second encounter with Ridley you get a good PTSD scene that makes scenes. You can also remove the Adam Shooting Samus scene because that was stupid. probably rework the Bottleship into a Space Pirate ship so you can Allude to the fact Space Pirates are experimenting with MB and can help explain how they remade it in Super Metroid.
@@devildolphin2102 Actually, the whole Adam being a dick and giving orders like making her go to the lava area without activating the Varia suit wasn't even a thing in the original Japanese Script for example. To explain that example, she goes there bc of being stubborn after being told to only go to areas that her active abilities would allow her to and she needed to be told by Adam to finally activate it bc she was too stubborn to do it before that. There's a pretty good video about the topic called "The Other M that never was". It explains the issues the localization introduced to the story that while it had it's flaws, wasn't as bad as what we got. Here's a link to it too: ua-cam.com/video/KTuMfsWwd0E/v-deo.html
I really like the reflection inherent to Samus. Like, she kind of feels like a personification of "beware when fighting monsters that you do not become a monster yourself". She goes on a planetwide genocide like Ridley, with the main difference being that when she comes across a harmless (even friendly) Metroid specimen, instead of laughing at its weakness and putting it down, she takes it and embraces it. She ends up exploding basically every planet she ever goes to. When she faces the SA-X as part Metroid, it's literally a reflection of what she was, not just a corruption. She's the Metroid running from the scary space goddess born of technology and genetic alteration. And she literally becomes part Metroid and maybe even part X, and at the end of Dread it becomes clear that she's the most powerful Metroid to ever live, but she still retains her humanity. I think that's what makes her such a cool and interesting hero, is that she refuses to abandon a certain softness inherent to humanity.
@@Teknanam though if you think about it, her tendency to absorb abilities from them arguably means at least some part of the X-Core might still live on, though that’s honestly more just a personal theory than anything.
@@Teknanam Well, she absorbs abilities from them using her Metroid DNA, and we don't know exactly how that works. Either way, parts of her abilityset are derived from X Parasites
Tallon IV wasn't exploded. Aether still exists because Dark Aether exploded. Phaaze was the only planet that exploded in Prime 3. I don't think that her actions were responsible for Zebes exploding, but rather a failsafe to make sure that she didn't make it out of Tourian alive. And I don't think that the Alimbic Cluster Oubliette can be considered a planet.
Damn, Samus has been through up some shit. This series has the potential to be an amazing movie series. Samus Is easily in my favorite female character.
Samus keeps needing the help of animals to escape from exploding bases in her ship. She should maybe install some voice controlled autopilot on that thing one of these days
She's been stuck with the one BSL provided her for both of those without having the opportunity to replace her hyper-customized ship from Metroid Prime 1 through the opening of Fusion.
You could have included the Prime games. They are canon, as Samus Returns AND Sakamoto himself both confirm. They take place between Metroid Zero Mission (Metroid 1) and Metroid Samus Returns (Metroid 2)
Oh, I always believed the Prime series to be canon, but I wanted this video to focus on the storyline with the Metroids and X. The Prime trilogy has pretty much nothing to do with the 2d games, aside from a few references and characters.
@@KingJGrim It literally explains how Ridley is back in his original form for Super Metroid! (Until OM2R fucks it up again... Probably to give an excuse for more interquels.)
@@jesusramirezromo2037 Prime fixed him up by showing him go from somewhat mecahnized, to more mechanized at the start of 3, then unmechanized but phazon corrupted at the end of 3 and then showing all signs of phazon corruption vanishing from Samus once she destroys Phaaze hence implying that Ridley is likewise purified and back to normal.
28:51 Pretty sure it was mentioned somewhere in Other M that the baby Metroid would have become another Queen had it lived. Which is honestly a nice precedent to what Samus almost became in Dread had Quiet Robe X not intervened.
Nice video. A few notes: - The Federation officials behind the BSL station and all that in Fusion was only a certain faction in the Federation. She still works with the Federation afterwards, she is just wary that they may not all be as benevolent as they seem - Samus' breakdown with Ridley in Other M was more about her character arc in that game. She felt helpless the entire game, and Ridley "coming back to life" was the last straw before she had a freakout. It wasn't 100% PTSD Otherwise, great summary!
@@Cakecrasher I wouldn’t say “we all,” considering just how many people I see act as if the English localization is the only version of Other M that exists. Referring to Samus as “submissive,” or claiming she had a PTSD attack, etc.
Metroid: Suck It. Metroid 2: Yeah Ridley is back Welp gotta kill him. Super: Ohhhh Ridley, Just give back the Baby…. sike Bitch ya dead Other M: Ridley is Back! Ohh My God!!!!!!!!! PTSD Fusion: oh look X Ridley, How many times do I got to teach you this method old man DREAD: Oh hey look it’s Kraid………. Welp time to make this monster my bitch.
Honestly, you've done her story the justice no other UA-camr has done. No one else ever covered her training at Federation and her first visit to Zebes after the training.
I never played the old Metroids but that face of SA-X what is now you Pofil pic......I will never forget those eyes..... those eyes are sooooo horrible creepy
god i absolutely LOVE the delivery of your lines. the "as together they KICK his purple ass to the GROUND!" line was absolutely amazing. that line alone deserves a sub
@@HPMCCPooTis Two galactic warriors who have destroyed endless hordes of evil alien monsters single-handedly, covered head-to-toe in power armor carrying an endless supply of weaponry... And Samus is possibly the only woman in the galaxy that could handle Doomguy without breaking her hips.
....This scares me. Will she eventually become the bad guy? The Galactic Federation already sees her as a threat. That lullaby was a nice touch. This was my first video from you. You earned my sub sir, thanks for all your hard work!
Grim: "I won't go too much into Other M" Me: "Oh, so I can watch the video, wouldn't wanna be spoiled for the game!" Grim: "So, here's tons of important cutscenes and spoilers for Other M. You're welcome! =)"
I love Samus. The Metroid series has been my favorite for a very long time. I honestly got into because of Prime. But I was actually old enough to appreciate the game at that time. When Super Metroid came out I just ran around shooting and jumping lol. I did replay all the games I could once I was able to start buying them. I wanna buy a Switch now just to try out Dread.
Dude, you're hilarious and fairly family friendly which I appreciate! Loved the video and all the great connections of Samus' character throughout the series. Thank you for making this! :)
Hey, thanks for not including the Prime games :) haven't had the chance to play them yet so I was happy to revisit the whole main story without spoilers :D
28:45 Small note, since the Queen Metroid in Other M is a clone of The Baby, it stands to reason that it would have evolved into a Queen rather than an Omega Metroid.
I really love the final joke about Anthony appearing because, even if it most probably wasn't intended, Anthony is one of those few people who did the right thing when it was needed to save Samus. So it's actually more than just a joke if you think about it.
You know, as someone who's been a fan of the series for a long time and played pretty much every game I could get my greedy claws on, I have an unpopular opinion. Despite the rather stupidly shoehorned PTSD bits, Other M was a pretty fun game, and I liked playing it quite a bit.
As a game on itself Other M is a good game: Responsive controls, Continuation of events and Amazing battles. The problems with it are the gameplay that don't fit with what a Metroid game is, how it fits in the lore and how it breaks canon all the time. Other M is a good game it just isn't a Metroid game.
i actually agree having finally actually played it the only issues i had with it really were the PTSD parts especially with ridley, like if they had that in zero mission it would make sense since it was the first time she encountered him since her childhood but Other M takes place way later.
@@kintsuki99 Other M is strange because of how disappointing it is. Not because it's a genuinely bad game, but because it never actually manages to reach its potential. The entire time I play it, I just keep thinking to myself, "Man, what if we could use the nunchuk? What if the English localization was better? What if Sense Move didn't just break combat? What if Missiles were less clunky to use?" It had glimpses of a great Metroid game underneath, but it had so many self imposed restrictions that it couldn't meet the criteria effectively. And what's sad is I don't think we'll ever get another 3D Metroid in the same style as Other M because of how poorly it was received. That style of Metroid genuinely deserves a chance, but the game is mired with so many problems both in writing and gameplay that hinder it at every turn.
Apparently, due to a grave translation error that was left unchecked, the Federation wasn't the one responsible for what happens in Fusion and Other M. In fact, the Federation as a whole agrees with Samus' decision, while the orders to step back and let the X live was a result of an old, discontinued military faction within the Federation.
with Dread's reveal, it's more like a combination of the 2. Old Bird from the Thoha tribe, and Raven Beak from the Mawkin. so could be said she has 2 Chozo surrogate fathers. it's even revealed in one of the Adam interactions near the end of the game that the Thoha genes slowed down the Metroid power awakening within her
Nah that is a retcon made in Dread. Dread, and fusion for that matter, retcon a lot of what was said originally in previous games. Point and case there was never any mention of other Chozo that were not Old Beak and Grey Voice. Infact the Chozo were extinct except for those two before Samus Return retconned a lot of the series and Dread rolled with it.
@@kintsuki99 Ehhhhh. A lot of the “LORE” came from Old Sakomoto concepts and an Old Manga. Dread was written by Sakomoto. For better or For worse. The man gave us the Travesty that was Other M. But personally having an expanse on Chozo Culture giving them a Language Samus Speaks and making them into this Ancient Race slowly dying off is a cool dynamic. We can only see if dreads Retcons will be positive or negative on the series.
honestly I would prefer if the original or AM2R were used for Metroid 2, the ending boss fight is irredeemable, ridley should NOT be on SR388 for many reasons, and ruining the ending introspective, somber tone of leaving SR388 with *The Baby* is so much better aligned with the overall narrative of Metroid 2
Also, Dread adds the neat factor that she had TWO donors for Chozo DNA: Gray Voice from the Thoha Tribe and Raven Beak; the villain of Dread, from the Mawkin Tribe.
Since I never played the Metroid II remake, I had no idea that Ridley was showing up to ruin an otherwise comforting ending like it was in the original game. Just wow. Not in a good way.
Dude I'm having this problem I don't want to have fixed. Every 20 freakin seconds your damn jokes make me laugh so much I miss the plot and have to rewind the video 😂😂😂 Amazing. Instant sub 😂🙌
>show a metroid fusion cg while playing "x gonna dave to you" so on the nose and yet... so fiting edit:also the other m PTSD is bullshit, it was what? her 6th, 7th time facing ridley? in that point more than a PTSD her actions would be: samus: dude... get a hobby!!
>wanted to be friends with everything >Loves animals and always saves/keeps them >Doesn't like orders/rules >Known for disobeying them (Mostly when they dont make sense to her) >Suffered experienced trauma emotionally and not contextually >clearly not good at picking up cues as to what she was being trained for >Isolated herself and prefers to act on her own, in the company of her pets >Lack of empathy in some aspects while having non discriminating empathy in others >Overall rational/logical thinking aimed at best problem solution possible >Not very communicative through words and overall seems like a distant character except when you get snippets of her emotions (Or read the backstory) SHE IS AUTISTIC
Funny how I see people in the comments find themselves surprised with Samus character. I guess it's the silent part? But that's also weird because....well Link doesn't talk and everyone loves him. Master Chief, rarely talks, and boy we all love him. Kirby, Jak etc etc.
Alright. The "Do you remember?" gag was worth the price of admission alone. Now i have to explain to my friends why I'm sending them a 33-minute video for a 2 second joke, but it'll be worth it.
Hadn't raided your archive much yet, this one popped up in my suggested feed after watching the Mind of Kratos, had to watch it... excellent breakdown, loved it. Though it did grind my teeth the way you pronounced her surname. 😂 Say it with me now... Aran... "uh rahn"... or "uh ron" either way... but not like "Aaron" heh. Keep up the great work, need more like yours in my feed.
Am I the only one thinking that Samus Aran's origin story is kind of structurally similar to Batman's? there's differences for sure but the similar structural elements seem to be: 1) both seem to have had their parents murdered in front of them at a young age by person part of a group they would soon seek to destroy 2) both eventually seemed to venture to a foreign land to recieve an equally foreign entity that trains them to fight their enemies 3) both are clad in an expensive armored suit that is veritably more technologically advanced than their adversaries and equipped to dispatch their foes with veritable ease (this is probably more of a trope more common in far more sci-fi franchises than just Metroid or Batman) - both also have aliases to hide their identity (Samus Aran = the Hunter; Bruce Wayne = Batman) 4) both had an arch nemesis that had purple to their scheme so yeah, interesting look at samus aran
@@devildolphin2102 Well pointed, then instead of fusion erasing it other m just fucked up the events and made itself not part of the time line, since it is supposed to happen before fusion. Interesting. Didn't pay attention to release dates just where they were supposed to fit in the time line when writting.
@@kintsuki99 Yeah I don’t know what Sakomoto was smoking when he made Other M. I mean Look at how Samus acts in Other M compared to Dread. In dread she has actual emotion in the voice and when she sees Kraid she just casually shoots him in the face.
Actually in the intro cutscene in Dread, Adam literally tells her she isn’t getting paid enough for this shit. So… no she’s not getting paid a lot for this.
She might be getting paid quite a bit, but Adam is thinking that the unknown variables outweigh the bounty
Perhaps Samus feels responsible for the X menace, and wants to put a definitive end to it. Hence why Raven sent the video to the federation in the first place, as he knew she'd feel that obligation?
@@Rickfernello Oh she definitely took the bounty as a personal vendetta. That doesn’t change the fact that she isn’t getting paid enough for this shit.
@@Rickfernello Wait so the video he sent in caused a legit bounty? Who tf other than Samus the ONLY ONE IMMUNE TO THE X would take the bounty?! Like I know one of the Prime games had few other bounty hunters but they should do that again, it just kinda.. fits that there would be other bounty hunters..
@@BaconNuke Yeah, basically this. Pretty sure, had she said "no," they would have just upped the bounty only she could take.
Fun fact about Mecha Ridley. Ridley himself actually built it cause he's a massive narcissist.
Make sense
That's a fact they added in smash bros. Makes sense for Ridley to be full of himself, but how canon that fact is, is up for debate.
In the Manga he is full of him self and sadistic. I mean after dread manga is mega canon.
Is it any wonder Viridi mocked Ridley?
@@NanashiAkai Canon is canon
Samus: "I learned that killing everything is never the answer."
Doomguy: *Unholy laughter*
To be fair all he ever kills is Demons which more then have it coming.
Samus literally having a bodycount involving 2 Planetary Genocides of Sapient species and 3 destroyed planets which Thanos Snapped several thousand animal species out of existance
I think you mean *very holy*
"Killing everything is never the answer."
"... But, destroying 2 or 3 planets could do the trick!"
Spartan 117: uncertain silent chuckling
I am impressed what Mercury Steam did with the Metroid franchise.
Metroid Dread has shown us how the Spanish studio has improved since their Castlevania Lords of Shadow days.
The Spanish always win
You know, I used to think Samus was kinda bland as a character, having only played a couple of the games and not seen any other related media. I assumed that her main and almost only appeal was that she's a badass space warrior and not much else. So thanks for making this video that showed me she's not just a badass killing machine. She's a badass killing machine that loves animals.
And Hates Purple Space Dragons
@@isaiahkayode6526 Yeah. Could you imagine if Spyro got confirmed for Smash and Samus mixed the two purple dragons up?
Samus: *Gasp* Ridley!
Spyro: Uh... Why do I hear Doom music?
And doesn’t get paid enough to be a badass killing machine
She also loves space disco, hence the gogo boots and shorts.
So…r63 Doomguy?
after playing Metroid Dread, I feel like this video is far more accurate to Samus
“She herself does not need to turn into a beast” boy you’re gonna love the ending of Dread…
Well… she isn’t a beast anymore but…
time for AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Prime is canon though. Ridley's inclusion in Samus Returns proved it, and then Sakamoto literally confirmed it not too long ago in a Gameinformer interview.
some how you could import Fusion's data into prime's game
I see it as a side series, which doesn't really impact the main plot and is mostly self-contained
@@samquik It does effect the plot though, Ridley being the big one.
@@RatchildUK Well, that’s the only overt connection. I mostly see Prime’s canon relevance as just more and more experience and legend buildup for Samus. It makes it so that even by Metroid 2 she’s already got a long and storied resume.
@@samquik you can say the reason why samus was send to ice the metroids was because phazon show how dangerous thye can be
Playing these games in isolation, it's almost too easy to ignore Samus as a character altogether. She's basically just an avatar to get you to spin, shoot, and solve puzzles. Which is fine, just that I never cared for her as a character...
...until I played all of the games in chronological order (remakes instead of the OGs just for the sake of ease) during the lead-up to Dread, something I hadn't done before this year. And by the time I was heading to fight SR-X at the end of Fusion, something surprised me: by playing through her story like that, I'd become emotionally invested in her story. That would've seemed ridiculous to me when I was younger, but playing them all in order really put her entire journey - her stubbornness, vulnerability, empathy, anger, and unflinching tenacity - into perspective. All told with in-game scenarios and _very_ few cutscenes.
Playing through Dread with those four games fresh in my mind like that has been so rewarding. Story beats that I otherwise would've skipped to get to the action now hold enormous weight. All of that accomplished without 200 pages of in-game dialogue or half-hour cinematics.
For a series so dark and grotesque, it's kind of incredible how magical 2D Metroid games are, huh?
Good post. Though I should point out you said SR-X instead of SA-X lol
Well said, I really respect your insight! Let's be friends 🙂
You know one way I think Samus's infamous freakout scene could have worked? It makes absolutely no sense that Samus would be frozen in fear at the sight of Ridley. But one emotional reaction that would make complete sense would be blind rage. At this point in the timeline, Samus has faced this monster not once, not twice, not even thrice, but at least five times. And every single time she walked away from his smouldering remains, sincerely believing that her parents had been avenged, only for him to come back again and again. At this point, Samus just going into a berserker state at the sight of him would make complete sense.
Woulda been a great chance for her to use all her upgrades from super and stop listening to Adam
@@cavemanbuddyolpal Imagine how fucking badass it would've been if she just immediately, without hesitation, just activates all of her upgrades and *destroys* Ridley completely. Less of a boss fight and more of a one sided slaughter. It would've been an incredible moment in an otherwise okay Metroid game.
But unfortunately that wasn't the game we got.
@@tgr3423 the best way of handling it while keeping a proper boss fight would be she goes fucking berserk and then "remember me" [i legit do not remember his name] makes her snap back to her senses before she gets herself killed
Super Metroid is the ONLY time Ridley, the asshole that ate all 3 of her humanoid parents and caused the destruction of both of her homes, the first home and first 2 parents being in front of her when she was THREE YEARS OLD, actually died. She KNEW he got away and survived all of the other encounters. On top of that every single time before, AND AFTER Other M in the timeline she had warning that Ridley would probably be showing up so she could mentally prepare herself.
Other M is the ONLY time in the games that she goes into a full on PTSD panic attack because it's the only time in the games she couldn't prepare herself for the encounter.
You clearly are a fake fan that never read the canonical pre-Zero Mission manga covering Samus's childhood and early adulthood (before becoming a bounty hunter and taking the job to cleanse her second home.)
@@alicesteelI have read the manga. And I've played every game. I have seen every single encounter Samus has had with this monster. From her very first encounter as a child where she dared to hope she could befriend the murderer, all the way up to her battle with an X parasite wearing his skin. And every single time, Samus blew this bastard away and it seemed to all the world that he was dead and dust only to discover that he had been rebuilt as a f&*%ing cyborg, been revived as a phazon mutant, or had an entire army of clones on standby. What the hell are you talking about?
Samus from Zero Mission to Super Metroid at Seeing Ridley: "How many times do I have to teach you this lesson, old man!?"
Samus during Other M: **Shooketh**
Accurate.
Considering that during Other M, Samus had just defeated Ridley and blew up the planet he was on before immediately going to the Bottle Ship and finding a clone of him there completely unaffected by their last encounter…yeah, I’d say it’s understandable that she’d be shook.
Claiming that moment’s out-of-character, while ignoring the contradiction that is the “Space Pirate Home-world” is just plain silly.
@@notgonnapay
Samus had left Ridley for dead up to 3-5 times by Other M The only feelings she should have for him at that point is either unbridled rage or to be inured. Not a paralyzing panic attack.
Also what contradiction? The Pirate Homeworld (also known as Urtraghus by the Pirates and Planet SN-883 by the Galactic Federation) seen in Metroid Prime 3 was stated to be one of many Pirate Homeworlds. They are a group of many alien species.
@@notgonnapay And yet, in Dread, she just stares down Kraid, then blasts him in the mouth without a second thought.
@@Teknanam Super Metroid is the ONLY time Ridley, the asshole that ate all 3 of her humanoid parents and caused the destruction of both of her homes, the first home and first 2 parents being in front of her when she was THREE YEARS OLD, actually died. She KNEW he got away and survived all of the other encounters. On top of that every single time before, AND AFTER Other M in the timeline she had warning that Ridley would probably be showing up so she could mentally prepare herself.
Other M is the ONLY time in the games that she goes into a full on PTSD panic attack because it's the only time in the games she couldn't prepare herself for the encounter.
27:38
This is the first time I've seen this dialog and it's extremely funny to me. I love how Adam's basically like "you _definitely_ shouldn't destroy the station, and _definitely_ not by doing this exact sequence of actions"
At least Adam gave her a choice rather than keep her locked in until the Federation shows up.
I remember reading in another Metroid comment section that in Super Metroid, when Samus returns to the Space Colony to rescue the baby, Ridley leaves whenever Samus' health gets low enough that it triggers her suit's alarm to go off. Later when Samus has a run-in with the now wild baby, it drains her health as it doesn't initially recognize her probably due to its instincts to feed and survive on the planet since its capture. The baby only stops once it hears that same warning alarm from the encounter with Ridley and flees (as mentioned, most likely in shame). Then, once again, during Samus' fight with Mother Brain, Samus is left with barely enough health that triggers the suit's alarm while Mother Brain charges a final shot. The baby hears the alarm and immediately rushes back to rescue its surrogate mother and ultimately gives its life for Samus.
Super Metroid has a ton of these tiny details that is absolutely insane to look back on since its release in 1994. It's even crazier now seeing as what Dread has done and what is open to possibilities for future titles. Great video, all in all! Can't wait for more of these 'In The Mind of: X'.
Other M is a weird quandary for me since I like the ideas behind the story. It’s just the execution of those ideas was sadly not done well in a convincing manner.
Was done a little better in the original Japanese script and version
@@2yoyoyo1Unplugged unfortunately that’s not saying much.
Samus Freaking out over 3 time dead riddly is still so Baffling. Other M should have been a Prequel to 1 and that probably would have helped a lot with the Narrative.
@@devildolphin2102 they could remake it and change the script by deleting/altering some dialogue and cutscenes to actually be a prequel
@@manuelredgrave8348
Oh that would make it So much better.
Literally just make her a Federation Marine this she has to listen to and Obey orders. It allows Adam to be a bit dickish in a Commander sort of Way. And by making it Samus first or Second encounter with Ridley you get a good PTSD scene that makes scenes. You can also remove the Adam Shooting Samus scene because that was stupid.
probably rework the Bottleship into a Space Pirate ship so you can Allude to the fact Space Pirates are experimenting with MB and can help explain how they remade it in Super Metroid.
@@devildolphin2102 Actually, the whole Adam being a dick and giving orders like making her go to the lava area without activating the Varia suit wasn't even a thing in the original Japanese Script for example.
To explain that example, she goes there bc of being stubborn after being told to only go to areas that her active abilities would allow her to and she needed to be told by Adam to finally activate it bc she was too stubborn to do it before that.
There's a pretty good video about the topic called "The Other M that never was".
It explains the issues the localization introduced to the story that while it had it's flaws, wasn't as bad as what we got.
Here's a link to it too: ua-cam.com/video/KTuMfsWwd0E/v-deo.html
I really like the reflection inherent to Samus. Like, she kind of feels like a personification of "beware when fighting monsters that you do not become a monster yourself". She goes on a planetwide genocide like Ridley, with the main difference being that when she comes across a harmless (even friendly) Metroid specimen, instead of laughing at its weakness and putting it down, she takes it and embraces it. She ends up exploding basically every planet she ever goes to. When she faces the SA-X as part Metroid, it's literally a reflection of what she was, not just a corruption. She's the Metroid running from the scary space goddess born of technology and genetic alteration. And she literally becomes part Metroid and maybe even part X, and at the end of Dread it becomes clear that she's the most powerful Metroid to ever live, but she still retains her humanity. I think that's what makes her such a cool and interesting hero, is that she refuses to abandon a certain softness inherent to humanity.
She can't become part X thanks to her Metroid DNA. In Dread, she just gets more Thoha genes.
110%
@@Teknanam though if you think about it, her tendency to absorb abilities from them arguably means at least some part of the X-Core might still live on, though that’s honestly more just a personal theory than anything.
@@Teknanam Well, she absorbs abilities from them using her Metroid DNA, and we don't know exactly how that works. Either way, parts of her abilityset are derived from X Parasites
Tallon IV wasn't exploded. Aether still exists because Dark Aether exploded. Phaaze was the only planet that exploded in Prime 3. I don't think that her actions were responsible for Zebes exploding, but rather a failsafe to make sure that she didn't make it out of Tourian alive. And I don't think that the Alimbic Cluster Oubliette can be considered a planet.
oh boi can't wait for adam to show up and tell grim how to proceed with the video.
Damn, Samus has been through up some shit. This series has the potential to be an amazing movie series. Samus Is easily in my favorite female character.
Samus keeps needing the help of animals to escape from exploding bases in her ship. She should maybe install some voice controlled autopilot on that thing one of these days
She's been stuck with the one BSL provided her for both of those without having the opportunity to replace her hyper-customized ship from Metroid Prime 1 through the opening of Fusion.
Or keep the Command Visor from Prime 3 lmao
The conclusion to this video hits so much harder after playing Dread, considering what happens there.
You completely missed the part of the story where she's married to my self-insert character in my fanfic. C'MON MAN.
You will have to fight Yandere Dev for that
You could have included the Prime games. They are canon, as Samus Returns AND Sakamoto himself both confirm. They take place between Metroid Zero Mission (Metroid 1) and Metroid Samus Returns (Metroid 2)
Oh, I always believed the Prime series to be canon, but I wanted this video to focus on the storyline with the Metroids and X. The Prime trilogy has pretty much nothing to do with the 2d games, aside from a few references and characters.
@@KingJGrim It literally explains how Ridley is back in his original form for Super Metroid! (Until OM2R fucks it up again... Probably to give an excuse for more interquels.)
@@alicesteel Primeis the series that fucked up the Ridley continuity
Samur Returns unfucks it a but by showing Ridley regens
@@jesusramirezromo2037 Prime fixed him up by showing him go from somewhat mecahnized, to more mechanized at the start of 3, then unmechanized but phazon corrupted at the end of 3 and then showing all signs of phazon corruption vanishing from Samus once she destroys Phaaze hence implying that Ridley is likewise purified and back to normal.
Thanks for being the only person in the whole world to have read my reddit thread about the inconsistencies in the Metroid manga lol
28:51 Pretty sure it was mentioned somewhere in Other M that the baby Metroid would have become another Queen had it lived. Which is honestly a nice precedent to what Samus almost became in Dread had Quiet Robe X not intervened.
Nice video. A few notes:
- The Federation officials behind the BSL station and all that in Fusion was only a certain faction in the Federation. She still works with the Federation afterwards, she is just wary that they may not all be as benevolent as they seem
- Samus' breakdown with Ridley in Other M was more about her character arc in that game. She felt helpless the entire game, and Ridley "coming back to life" was the last straw before she had a freakout. It wasn't 100% PTSD
Otherwise, great summary!
Looks like someone other than me did a little research.
@@2yoyoyo1Unplugged or we all watched that one video, wonder how they would handle this mistranslation if that faction comes back for Metroid 6
@@Cakecrasher I wouldn’t say “we all,” considering just how many people I see act as if the English localization is the only version of Other M that exists. Referring to Samus as “submissive,” or claiming she had a PTSD attack, etc.
Metroid: Suck It.
Metroid 2: Yeah Ridley is back Welp gotta kill him.
Super: Ohhhh Ridley, Just give back the Baby…. sike Bitch ya dead
Other M: Ridley is Back! Ohh My God!!!!!!!!! PTSD
Fusion: oh look X Ridley, How many times do I got to teach you this method old man
DREAD: Oh hey look it’s Kraid………. Welp time to make this monster my bitch.
Samus doesn't need plot armor..
She has BIRD MAGIC
Honestly, you've done her story the justice no other UA-camr has done. No one else ever covered her training at Federation and her first visit to Zebes after the training.
I never played the old Metroids but that face of SA-X what is now you Pofil pic......I will never forget those eyes..... those eyes are sooooo horrible creepy
@@codetron1.1 it was a terrifying moment to see those soulless eyes for the first time dude, it came outta nowhere.
@@silverdust9176 Yup everytime those Eyes a powerfull shivers go through my entire body
god i absolutely LOVE the delivery of your lines. the "as together they KICK his purple ass to the GROUND!" line was absolutely amazing. that line alone deserves a sub
Never seen this guy before, but I really enjoy his excited moments
I'm so glad Grim made this video. If he made a video on Doomguy, it's only fair to make one for his wife too.
I sadly don't see the corelation between the two hunters... other than massacre level fighters
@@HPMCCPooTis Two galactic warriors who have destroyed endless hordes of evil alien monsters single-handedly, covered head-to-toe in power armor carrying an endless supply of weaponry...
And Samus is possibly the only woman in the galaxy that could handle Doomguy without breaking her hips.
@@HPMCCPooTis they both wear evolving power armor type of suits. are experts with guns. tend to be silent. massacre sheer amounts of enemies
Kinda look the same, too. Soulmates?
...Uhh, I meant their armor. Doomguy the guy is kinda gross, ngl.
....This scares me. Will she eventually become the bad guy? The Galactic Federation already sees her as a threat.
That lullaby was a nice touch. This was my first video from you. You earned my sub sir, thanks for all your hard work!
"Bad guy"
thank you so much for giving our Lady the love she deserves. I teared up at that final music box cut of the main theme. 10/10
So did I, and ty for sharing that
Would love to see how you incorporate Dread into this video
3:42
Damn
You're also a Shiki Tohno enjoyer?
Legend
Grim: "I won't go too much into Other M"
Me: "Oh, so I can watch the video, wouldn't wanna be spoiled for the game!"
Grim: "So, here's tons of important cutscenes and spoilers for Other M. You're welcome! =)"
I also love what they did with Samus in Metroid Dread, she really gives off Doomslayer vibes. But yeah, great video, every Metroid fan should see this
I love Samus. The Metroid series has been my favorite for a very long time. I honestly got into because of Prime. But I was actually old enough to appreciate the game at that time. When Super Metroid came out I just ran around shooting and jumping lol. I did replay all the games I could once I was able to start buying them. I wanna buy a Switch now just to try out Dread.
Do it
Dread is worth every penny
This video is pretty damn good
I knew Samus since playing Smash on the N64 but not once played one of her games or knew anything about her backstory
When everyone realize Samus is a girl.................MY ENTIRE LIFE HAS BEEN A LIE!
Samus would get really giddy at the sight of a brand new rideable lawn mower.
Dude, you're hilarious and fairly family friendly which I appreciate! Loved the video and all the great connections of Samus' character throughout the series. Thank you for making this! :)
Hey, thanks for not including the Prime games :) haven't had the chance to play them yet so I was happy to revisit the whole main story without spoilers :D
Yes! I was just playing Dread! Let's go!
Funny enough, I also learned Samus's gender through Smash.
28:45 Small note, since the Queen Metroid in Other M is a clone of The Baby, it stands to reason that it would have evolved into a Queen rather than an Omega Metroid.
I really love the final joke about Anthony appearing because, even if it most probably wasn't intended, Anthony is one of those few people who did the right thing when it was needed to save Samus. So it's actually more than just a joke if you think about it.
You know, as someone who's been a fan of the series for a long time and played pretty much every game I could get my greedy claws on, I have an unpopular opinion. Despite the rather stupidly shoehorned PTSD bits, Other M was a pretty fun game, and I liked playing it quite a bit.
As a game on itself Other M is a good game: Responsive controls, Continuation of events and Amazing battles.
The problems with it are the gameplay that don't fit with what a Metroid game is, how it fits in the lore and how it breaks canon all the time.
Other M is a good game it just isn't a Metroid game.
@@kintsuki99 Pretty much exactly what I was thinking, but you said it better. Thank you.
I find the game to be quite fun too. And the Japanese writing seriously lacks the BS the English one is rife with
i actually agree having finally actually played it the only issues i had with it really were the PTSD parts especially with ridley, like if they had that in zero mission it would make sense since it was the first time she encountered him since her childhood but Other M takes place way later.
@@kintsuki99 Other M is strange because of how disappointing it is. Not because it's a genuinely bad game, but because it never actually manages to reach its potential. The entire time I play it, I just keep thinking to myself, "Man, what if we could use the nunchuk? What if the English localization was better? What if Sense Move didn't just break combat? What if Missiles were less clunky to use?" It had glimpses of a great Metroid game underneath, but it had so many self imposed restrictions that it couldn't meet the criteria effectively.
And what's sad is I don't think we'll ever get another 3D Metroid in the same style as Other M because of how poorly it was received. That style of Metroid genuinely deserves a chance, but the game is mired with so many problems both in writing and gameplay that hinder it at every turn.
Apparently, due to a grave translation error that was left unchecked, the Federation wasn't the one responsible for what happens in Fusion and Other M. In fact, the Federation as a whole agrees with Samus' decision, while the orders to step back and let the X live was a result of an old, discontinued military faction within the Federation.
This video really made me appreciate Samus' characterization across the many Metroid games.
Next, "In the Mind of *The Baby*".
so extremely unpopular opinion, but aside from a few points i actually liked the story in other M.
They should make a show out of this. I'd watch the hell out of that.
22:54 "you aren't my superior anymore. No."
hang on wasn't the events of zero mission her first mission as an idepentent bounty hunter hence the name zero mission
This was a phenomenal video. I love how you formatted this like a story instead of just reviewing the games.
It's actually Raven Beaks DNA that was used on Samus. Reason why he calls her his daughter.
She has the DNA of both hence why she’s both Has both tribes DNA
@@Cakecrasher that does raise a question. If samus has the DNA of this two tribes, are there more than those two?
with Dread's reveal, it's more like a combination of the 2. Old Bird from the Thoha tribe, and Raven Beak from the Mawkin. so could be said she has 2 Chozo surrogate fathers. it's even revealed in one of the Adam interactions near the end of the game that the Thoha genes slowed down the Metroid power awakening within her
Nah that is a retcon made in Dread.
Dread, and fusion for that matter, retcon a lot of what was said originally in previous games.
Point and case there was never any mention of other Chozo that were not Old Beak and Grey Voice.
Infact the Chozo were extinct except for those two before Samus Return retconned a lot of the series and Dread rolled with it.
@@kintsuki99
Ehhhhh.
A lot of the “LORE” came from Old Sakomoto concepts and an Old Manga.
Dread was written by Sakomoto. For better or For worse.
The man gave us the Travesty that was Other M.
But personally having an expanse on Chozo Culture giving them a Language Samus Speaks and making them into this Ancient Race slowly dying off is a cool dynamic.
We can only see if dreads Retcons will be positive or negative on the series.
honestly I would prefer if the original or AM2R were used for Metroid 2, the ending boss fight is irredeemable, ridley should NOT be on SR388 for many reasons, and ruining the ending introspective, somber tone of leaving SR388 with *The Baby* is so much better aligned with the overall narrative of Metroid 2
I can understand your point. But when making these videos, I try to use the official resources to look at the characters made by their creators.
And now, time to add Dread’s Story into the mix!
(She’s become a Metroid now.... what will this mean for the games to come??)
Also, Dread adds the neat factor that she had TWO donors for Chozo DNA: Gray Voice from the Thoha Tribe and Raven Beak; the villain of Dread, from the Mawkin Tribe.
@@Houndlock643 man samus has a lot of dads
11:23 You already know someone out there is like.
What game is this from
From having PTSD from seing Ridley to not giving a shit.
Since I never played the Metroid II remake, I had no idea that Ridley was showing up to ruin an otherwise comforting ending like it was in the original game. Just wow. Not in a good way.
Yeah, boy just drops in uninvited sadly.
30:58 who is she!?!
Another woman who had been wearing a power suit? Samus is not the first?
Hoo boy. Did Dread add more depth to her. I kind of want a follow up to this now.
Do you guys think doom slayer and samus would be friends? We obviously know who would win in a fight, but I think they might get along.
I’d love to see you recap the Dread storyline, oh boy!! 🤣
Dude I'm having this problem I don't want to have fixed. Every 20 freakin seconds your damn jokes make me laugh so much I miss the plot and have to rewind the video 😂😂😂
Amazing. Instant sub 😂🙌
You can't really do a study of samus without the manga and other m
>show a metroid fusion cg while playing "x gonna dave to you"
so on the nose and yet... so fiting
edit:also the other m PTSD is bullshit, it was what? her 6th, 7th time facing ridley? in that point more than a PTSD her actions would be:
samus: dude... get a hobby!!
I think super Metroid REALLY DESERVES a remake
2:29 The Prime trilogy is between Zero Mission and 2
I honestly think SA-X was scarier than the EMMIs
You could also a raven beak to the small group of doners
10:20 what did they do to her facial structure
The real question is:
Have Samus ever taken jobs from anything that wasn't the Galactic Federation?
She does solo work from time to time, hunters and dread being the standout examples.
Bounty Hunters are a subdivision of the Galatic Federation Army and not solo mercenaries like we are used to think of them.
@@Christopher-eq1rn hunters actually still was federation work, i have no idea if she's employed by the federation in dread or not actually
@@xanious3759 it's not super clear if she is in dread, but it gives off the vibe that she is doing it of her own initiative
Make that 3 bird dads
The memes are ON POINT
1:51 I don't know why that made me laugh so much
7:19 OK, that was clever.
When you said fighting the Metroid had no reproductions you showed a picture of Samus being infected by the X in which Metroid DNA saved her
K-kyrie? *KYRIEEEEEEE!*
This video was awesome!! Thank you!!!!
>wanted to be friends with everything
>Loves animals and always saves/keeps them
>Doesn't like orders/rules
>Known for disobeying them
(Mostly when they dont make sense to her)
>Suffered experienced trauma emotionally and not contextually
>clearly not good at picking up cues as to what she was being trained for
>Isolated herself and prefers to act on her own, in the company of her pets
>Lack of empathy in some aspects while having non discriminating empathy in others
>Overall rational/logical thinking aimed at best problem solution possible
>Not very communicative through words and overall seems like a distant character except when you get snippets of her emotions
(Or read the backstory)
SHE IS AUTISTIC
Funny how I see people in the comments find themselves surprised with Samus character. I guess it's the silent part? But that's also weird because....well Link doesn't talk and everyone loves him. Master Chief, rarely talks, and boy we all love him. Kirby, Jak etc etc.
Alright. The "Do you remember?" gag was worth the price of admission alone. Now i have to explain to my friends why I'm sending them a 33-minute video for a 2 second joke, but it'll be worth it.
Hadn't raided your archive much yet, this one popped up in my suggested feed after watching the Mind of Kratos, had to watch it... excellent breakdown, loved it. Though it did grind my teeth the way you pronounced her surname. 😂 Say it with me now... Aran... "uh rahn"... or "uh ron" either way... but not like "Aaron" heh. Keep up the great work, need more like yours in my feed.
Yall remember that cowboy bounty hunter with that trash version of samus power armor named Houston?
Am I the only one thinking that Samus Aran's origin story is kind of structurally similar to Batman's? there's differences for sure but the similar structural elements seem to be:
1) both seem to have had their parents murdered in front of them at a young age by person part of a group they would soon seek to destroy
2) both eventually seemed to venture to a foreign land to recieve an equally foreign entity that trains them to fight their enemies
3) both are clad in an expensive armored suit that is veritably more technologically advanced than their adversaries and equipped to dispatch their foes with veritable ease (this is probably more of a trope more common in far more sci-fi franchises than just Metroid or Batman)
- both also have aliases to hide their identity (Samus Aran = the Hunter; Bruce Wayne = Batman)
4) both had an arch nemesis that had purple to their scheme
so yeah, interesting look at samus aran
I wish I could find that remix at 13:50 , I've heard it in so many places yet I cannot find it for the life of me. Grrrr...
Metroid Other M seriously needs a remake, all so we can talk about the important plot bits without mentioning it specifically, ever again
T H E B A B Y
The baby approves of this video. It really does suck that youtube fricks over longer content because you can feel the heart here.
Funny enough that a lot of other m story was changed because of terrible localization. It's not as bad as it was.
That “me?” guy with that stupid look on his face had me dying lmao
3:03 “KYRIEEEEEEEEE!!!!!” Gotta love poking fun at DMC4 :)
24:47 "The baby. The baby. The baby. Babies cry. Baby. Baby. The baby. The baby." "SSHHUUUTTT UUUUUPPPPP!!!"
Gets aeion abilities in Samus Returns. Forgets these abilities, until Metroid Dread.
Is that clip of Ripley in Fortnite legit? Why indeed
Fortnite needs to be nuked from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.
4:00 fuck you for that Kazuya laugh lmaoo that was priceless !!
Metroid Dread be like
*IMMA FIRING MA LAZER!*
Oh hey, it's just Kraid
Wasnt borrowed it was the emergency pod from her ship.
God, this vid would be a good 20 minutes longer if it included dread
No matter what people say, other m will never be canon to me
Fusion goes out of it's way to make sure it is not.
Agreed. It's a bad fanfic at best.
@@kintsuki99
That’s hilarious considering fusion was made in 2002. Jesus they really fucked up MoM story
@@devildolphin2102 Well pointed, then instead of fusion erasing it other m just fucked up the events and made itself not part of the time line, since it is supposed to happen before fusion. Interesting.
Didn't pay attention to release dates just where they were supposed to fit in the time line when writting.
@@kintsuki99
Yeah I don’t know what Sakomoto was smoking when he made Other M.
I mean Look at how Samus acts in Other M compared to Dread. In dread she has actual emotion in the voice and when she sees Kraid she just casually shoots him in the face.