Hey, if you want to try to make this a series i have an opinion, try to put a limitation in place, because if you don't do it, you will always end with those specialized players, and like you literally 16 finishing and composure in the Vanorama National League So a thing that might work is having to have X amount of atributes at a certain level before going to next, something like having 11 atributes at 11 to improve one to twelve, and going like this until 15, and freeing anything after that And you can also rotate the limitations to vary the episodes
Hmmm interesting thought. I kinda like your thinking and the improvement system i quite like. Maybe needs minor refinement but as a base it is a decent concept 👍
future video suggestion, how to win a league with the least number of goals possible, would be a fun spin on the "can we score over 500 goals in a season" vid, try to make a team that will never concede but also not just play out scoreless draws. make a 2013-2014 atletico team who just wins 1-0 all the time. would be fun because i think this FM punishes "what we have, we hold" type tactics
Interesting idea, however it gets the player really overpowered and that s without straight up putting him to 20 pace/acceleration/finishing from the get go, maybe start him lower (though that would make him pretty useless) or nerf the rewards. Still not sure how to achieve that balance when you can just dump everything into pace/finishing/JR and get to 20 pretty quickly, having the computer decide growth still seems like a better bet. Also the “make him younger” rule is odd, as you said at one point it s a straight up win and it stretched out his career so much that he didn’t even retire naturally, might as well do away with that and let him retire naturally imo
Yeah i hear your critique. For other versions changes need to be made for sure. Just wanted to try something different and have some interesting decisions. Making him younger needed to cost more or be scrapped as you say. Also rewards need to be modified of sorts, but not nerfed too much that he just becomes a mediocre league 1 player with a sad career and boring vid 🤣 appreciate tour thoughts 👍
@@jayhuahuaI thought your points system was very fair, was plenty opportunity for him losing points by being relegated or transferred to a lower league club, had more than enough poor seasons, 3 or 4 more of those & he wouldn’t have been 20s across the board, only change I think you should consider is maybe no more than 3 points for any stat & then no rolling over any points to next season, if have the database from the workshop of the 7th or 8th tier (can’t remember which), then you could start him from the leagues under the conference north & south, at like someone like Margate for example & then see how far can go from these leagues, I doubt would land up with 20s across board & would take more to get international football
I think I would have done an early jump on Penalty Taking around season 2 or 3. He would effectively become the designated penalty taker and that could have guaranteed some extra goals and thus some points
Wonder if fixing the PA to match CA stopped a big club coming in for him. As their scout reports would show he'll only ever be a league 2 player. Guess they got that very wrong!!
@@jayhuahua Wonder if it could be adapted for other positions? Might be fun if you could create a Roberto Carlos or a Busquets for example :) Fun watch btw.
9:56 only saying this because I'm a Huddersfield fan so I look for anything Huddersfield related in any video, why on earth have they signed Alex sandro??
9:56 very bottom right by where you are, for the "shots blocked defending per 90" I always take more notice of the league one and championship stats because that's where we always are in these experiments
Surprised you didn't go for long shots, free kicks and penalties early, probably after pace and acceleration. I would think the player can score from more places/chances then improve the other attributes.
@@jayhuahua Yeah I also realised after messaging there is a difference between doing the best for the player and best for watching, like you said in the video you could just max out the acceleration and speed but that is kind of cheesing it.
Hmmm and I have to attribute at least 1 to whatever it lands on? Interesting, not a bad idea. I fear though I have a lot.of random wheel content and even more coming. I don't want to be too wheel heavy 🤣🤣🤣
Imagine wolves having a player this good and not have him score 30 goals a minimum
I'm shocked they managed to keep hold of him this long
His strength was low
Harry kanes nightmare
🤣🤣🤣🤣
6 foot tall and 59 kgs, someone please get this man some breakfast
Hey, if you want to try to make this a series i have an opinion, try to put a limitation in place, because if you don't do it, you will always end with those specialized players, and like you literally 16 finishing and composure in the Vanorama National League
So a thing that might work is having to have X amount of atributes at a certain level before going to next, something like having 11 atributes at 11 to improve one to twelve, and going like this until 15, and freeing anything after that
And you can also rotate the limitations to vary the episodes
Hmmm interesting thought. I kinda like your thinking and the improvement system i quite like. Maybe needs minor refinement but as a base it is a decent concept 👍
my guy went from being 33 year old at Wolves to be 29 first year at Bayern hahaha birth year changed from 2007 to 2012
Reverse mokokko idk how to spell the youngster for dortmund he started playing at 10 yers old
Yeah we went back 5 years in age... that rule was made clear i thought?
@ i maybe missed it wasnt a negative
@@jayhuahua I love you jayhuahua
I would've have went for agility and balance way earlier. Absolute key for a striker 😂
bro just get stamina aswell omds
U think i left it too long?
Decisions and stam were needed ages ago yes they are important for Strikers
future video suggestion, how to win a league with the least number of goals possible, would be a fun spin on the "can we score over 500 goals in a season" vid, try to make a team that will never concede but also not just play out scoreless draws. make a 2013-2014 atletico team who just wins 1-0 all the time. would be fun because i think this FM punishes "what we have, we hold" type tactics
Another clever and well thought out experiment but it played havoc with my arithmophobia.
Planning 10/10, execution 3/10 🤣
Interesting idea, however it gets the player really overpowered and that s without straight up putting him to 20 pace/acceleration/finishing from the get go, maybe start him lower (though that would make him pretty useless) or nerf the rewards. Still not sure how to achieve that balance when you can just dump everything into pace/finishing/JR and get to 20 pretty quickly, having the computer decide growth still seems like a better bet. Also the “make him younger” rule is odd, as you said at one point it s a straight up win and it stretched out his career so much that he didn’t even retire naturally, might as well do away with that and let him retire naturally imo
Yeah i hear your critique. For other versions changes need to be made for sure. Just wanted to try something different and have some interesting decisions. Making him younger needed to cost more or be scrapped as you say. Also rewards need to be modified of sorts, but not nerfed too much that he just becomes a mediocre league 1 player with a sad career and boring vid 🤣 appreciate tour thoughts 👍
@ fair enough you tried something new, definitely some more work needed on the idea for the next video though!
@@jayhuahuaI thought your points system was very fair, was plenty opportunity for him losing points by being relegated or transferred to a lower league club, had more than enough poor seasons, 3 or 4 more of those & he wouldn’t have been 20s across the board, only change I think you should consider is maybe no more than 3 points for any stat & then no rolling over any points to next season, if have the database from the workshop of the 7th or 8th tier (can’t remember which), then you could start him from the leagues under the conference north & south, at like someone like Margate for example & then see how far can go from these leagues, I doubt would land up with 20s across board & would take more to get international football
Love the agent concept!
Yesss Yeovil mentioned 💚
His consistency, important matches and size/weight killed him.
Next time please get a calculator, a book and a pen by your side 😂😂
I think I would have done an early jump on Penalty Taking around season 2 or 3. He would effectively become the designated penalty taker and that could have guaranteed some extra goals and thus some points
Yeah maybe i could have boosted earlier. I think I wanted the core striking attributes up ASAP and pens were a little way down the list
Wonder if fixing the PA to match CA stopped a big club coming in for him. As their scout reports would show he'll only ever be a league 2 player. Guess they got that very wrong!!
He exceeded that ability very quick. Think he was 150+ by the time he hit the Prem
Reminds me of old mmorpgs where you levelled up a skill by doing.
Yeah a lot of games have that model don't they n they were a source of inspiration for testing this concept out
@@jayhuahua Wonder if it could be adapted for other positions? Might be fun if you could create a Roberto Carlos or a Busquets for example :) Fun watch btw.
Cheers for a cheeky seven!
🤔 huh?
@@jayhuahua 33:57 Just enjoyed the way you said "cheeky seven" 😂
9:56 only saying this because I'm a Huddersfield fan so I look for anything Huddersfield related in any video, why on earth have they signed Alex sandro??
Lol where did you see that? I missed it but it is a detail i wasn't searching for 🤣
9:56 very bottom right by where you are, for the "shots blocked defending per 90" I always take more notice of the league one and championship stats because that's where we always are in these experiments
@liamthomas9622my man must have thought “hey, I could still do a job in the Championship!” lmaoo
19:46 I’m sorry Mudryk did what 💀 I’m surprised you didn’t go for more dribbling and decisions earlier
Yeah it's always a trade off isn't it
@ no kidding, but Wolves failing to get you at least 20 goals consistently with those stats is criminal
wow sounds interesting
Hope u enjoyed the concept
@@jayhuahua it was interesting, wish international wins didn't carry the player that much at the start
You should do it with a real player, maybe older and add point deduction if the team gets relegated
Interesting. I like this idea. Could maybe take a wonderkid from a previous FM who never hit the heights, make them 17 again and go from there 🤔
i am curious why not invest in stamina and strength first?
I am curious why you would?
Still watching so I don't know if you realised later but you didn't change his free kicks to 20 when you said
The maths was a shambles here 🤣 i made such a mess of things but it was fun so i figured let everyone in on my incompetence lol
@jayhuahua yeahh man it was a great episode 🙂 very much enjoying your content!
Surprised you didn't go for long shots, free kicks and penalties early, probably after pace and acceleration. I would think the player can score from more places/chances then improve the other attributes.
Yeah it was a balancing act. Its amazing when you have the choice, what you think is best for the players growth which will translate to more success
@@jayhuahua Yeah I also realised after messaging there is a difference between doing the best for the player and best for watching, like you said in the video you could just max out the acceleration and speed but that is kind of cheesing it.
You could put the attributes on a wheel and then choose how many points you want to allocate to the attribute per spin
like this idea
Hmmm and I have to attribute at least 1 to whatever it lands on? Interesting, not a bad idea. I fear though I have a lot.of random wheel content and even more coming. I don't want to be too wheel heavy 🤣🤣🤣
Might be wheely good though.... I'll get my coat.
Why do you leave long shots at 10??????
what skin is this please
It's the Sas24 skin
give 1 points to stamina man cmon
Did you miss 5 points for when wolves got promoted?
Probably. I made an absolute mess of the maths. I think I made it too complicated lol
Why this wonderkid looks like Charles Leclerc?
He has no stamina
10 is mid range
Ok..got it 👍@@jayhuahua
Any reason why you didn't pick Tottenham?
The only team I chose was Yeovil. Every other transfer was the AI