Michael Jacksons Studio Secrets
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In todays video I go over micheal jacksons studios/mixing secrets. I go over how engineer bruce Swedien recorded and mixed micheal jackson. I go over micheal jacksons vocal chain, bruce swediens use of outboard gear and much more. - Фільми й анімація
Bruce was an incredible engineer. Michael Jackson was insanely talented and on top of that, he surrounded himself with men of genius like Bruce.
CRAZY ENGINEER ! He took It as far as he could ! Which is so f impressive, all the mics variations ect. He dedicated his whole life for that knowledge you can feel. Respectable.
He passed away some years ago bro. You didn't mention it. Such a great engineer.
Not even some maybe 2 or 3 bro very recent
Mr Bruce Swedien is one of the greatest sound engineers of all time.
He made history with Mike. His knowledge of studio work can't be matched.
Times have changed a LOT. Especially mixing and mastering in the box. With parallel compression and the crazy detailed automation that's possible today, you can glue your track, while recovering the transients.
I never use compression!
Avoiding compression is all well and good when you're going through a beautiful console and tape machine, you get that euphonic glue through those anyway. His "compression is for kids" statement doesn't really apply to the modern era studio setup imo
Compression isn’t always needed I have found. Using things like distance when recording is natural compression
Just depends on the song
Use a subtle amount of tape emulation instead. Transients is what makes people dance! If it made Michael Jackson dance it's definitely good enough for anyone else lol
@user-cs6f7dd6w distance to the micro
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He's coming from the analog world, recording to the best multi track Reel to Reels and going through analog desks, it is much more forgiving and when hit hard saturate and tame transients in a pleasing manner . In todays world of digital DAWs it is a lot less forgiving and raw transients can sound harsh and lifeless.
3:49 - Back when speakers could predict an incoming call on a cell phone. What an era.
They still do
i reached out for my phone 🤣
I appreciate this video, and love Bruce. Such a legend. That said, learning compression is right next to EQ as the most important thing you can learn to hear and utilize in mixing and music production. And obviously in live sound too. Controlling the transients and knowing when (and when not) to do things is the key
he keeps levelling up with every video he makes
What nobody talks about is during the time of tape if not cassette 4 tracks … essentially compression is running the dials up and down.
Bruce was a genius. A man of talent and amazing ears for sounds. Whenever I hear an MJ song, i always seem to hear just the smallest sounds that makes the song come together smoothly like butter. The GOAT
Michael didn't have any studio secrets. These are all Bruce's secrets.
Je suis musicien les chanteur impose leurs micro préférés 😊
I guess we wouldn't be here if the title was Bruce's studio secrets lol
His secret was choosing the right producers and engineers
Michael Jackson ' secret : rythm, snap, dance, in same time to sing. Michael started from the " Motown studio ", watched " Key of life " steevy wonder, and had a studio to him house " encino " , and had 50 % of Sony Mtv. So i think he knew what he wanted.
yet bruce called michael the ultimate musician
That is so true. If you take those transients out, it takes out the energy, was cool about today is we can do a lot of parallel processing lol. 😂
Great Work George, Keep em coming!
Great engineers still use analog boards and analog outboard equipment, it takes a maestro to make a great recording !!!
U always come up with fyee videos its crazy bruh !! ❤
I have Always Hated compression!! And fought over many projects over compression!! Its possible to work without it and I agree with Bruce, it changes the character of the sound.
You are a true muscian and engineer!
Great vid and some terrific tips! Love getting these insights. But eventhough Bruce didn't like compresion/limiters on music, you should definitely try some on your videos - the volume levels from clip to clip are sometimes pretty bad, (mainly, your narration is too low). I had to 'ride the fader' for it! Just a thought. Keep up the killer content!
I have two books by Bruce Swedien about recording, 1. The recording method and 2. In the studio with Michael Jackson. Highly recommended if you want to take a deep dive!
Read booth unfortunately from what I could find they are not available online
I have the latter..it’s definitely a must have
there is documentary about Bruce " sonic sound "
Pls send the PDFs to me
Im not sure if they exist, I have physical copies@@Swimthenatator
Bruce is a legend 🙌
highly recommend his books, humbling stuff.
All-time top engineer!
What would he think about today’s music where everything is compressed while recorded then compressed at mixdown and then again at mastering?
Digital recording sounds harsh…. Although it’s so easy to do stuff on it, I find im better off working on my 24 trk. Definition is outstanding on tape.
Thank you so much for this! Just incredible!
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Great video, I loved reading Swedien's books, this goes well on the top of that.
Damn, with all the compressors I use. I feel personally attacked😂
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Thank you for this one. Certified hood classic
GRACIAS, thank you for spreading knowledge like this. I appreciate you and your contribution to art❤❤
Bruce Swedien - In The Studio with Michael Jackson
If you want to read more about Bruce's Philosophy and Equipment
Damn Mike was smart enough to get the best
So you push the levels when recording to tape, which pushes the peaks up against the max volume the medium can support and it squashes the peaks. Sure you get sweet analog distortion and drive some of the less audible sounds in the recording, but you're basically still compressing/limiting.
Read Bruce's books. He went to great lengths to preserve transients on tape and created a whole system for it. He wasn't using tape saturation, he was avoiding it.
The idea that people used "tape compression" as a tool back then is really misunderstood. Sure maybe a few records were cut really hot but most engineers tried to avoid distortion as much as possible. The idea that you should overdrive tape is a modern thing.
@@Oliver-ty7xu I guess the Sun Sessions were just really ahead of their time
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4:04 What a tag team finish!
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Hey George, you should make a video about how to have your speaker monitors setup and, certain engineers monitor steps. I know some have them horizontally and some don’t etc.
You gotta love how as soon as he says “the personality of the music is in the transience” (~3:53) he’s interrupted by that horrible cell phone interference noise
Great video
definetely would like to see more of this content
The 're-amping' idea, to capitalize on room sound and warmth, really impacted us in the 90s.
Totally agree with him on transients.
RIP to both! Good Research on this one.
Great! Please share more videos.
Thanks for sharing
More videos on how to mix without compression.
Beautiful 😍❤️
Mike had a lot of secrets.
Brilliant!
Thanks so much!
I have to agree about compression @4:20
Got to meet Bruce at AES in NYC. He was an amazing engineer that I practiced a lot of his techniques.
Brucie!!! ❤️ What a guy! 😎😎
Thank you for the video. This is exactly what I was looking for (minute 03:23min)
It's also very funny. Talking about, Re--Amping. The speakers he's using. The same, JBL 4311, control room monitor speakers. He actually used. For recording and mixing, Michael's greatest hits, originally. They are great sounding speakers. I had 6 pairs of them! All over my house and studio. In both locations. Can't live without those! I still like them better than lots of newer stuff. Newer stuff sounds cool, sure. These just sound so real and solid and fat and punchy. Everything you want in a speaker sound. No need to use anything else. Better is not necessarily, better. The same speakers also recorded and mixed, Earth Wind & Fire. And so many others. I've been using them since 1978, myself. I heard them in 1968. When they first came out. And I knew I would have to own a pair one day. Later I had 6 pairs. And similar bigger and smaller versions. They all sound fabulous. And I discovered. They are out of phase or rather out of polarity. To every other speaker manufacturer out there in the world. Why did they do it backwards? I figured that out in 1978, also. Try it on your own speakers. Reverse both connections on the left and right speakers. Take another listen. It's way different. You can do this with any speaker. And I realized why they did it. Everybody else makes a common mistake. They cannot think it through, properly. When you do it's very funny. And everybody ends up with dumbfounded looking egg on their face. When someone clues you in on this like I just have. It's very funny. It is tragically professionally, funny. Because everybody makes a mistake. And believes they are correct and can prove it! LMAO! No they really cannot. I get them every time.
Once you've figured this out. It's a game changer. It changes everything. Your recording and mixing will go so much easier. You'll hear everything so much better. You won't need surround speakers. You will be surrounded from only 2 speakers. It's an amazing psycho acoustic phenomena. Called, connecting your speakers, Correctly! Not both inverted, negative polarity backwards. Everybody makes that mistake. With their electrical engineering degrees and their acoustic engineering degrees. It's very funny. No it is not funny.
No I consider this to be the biggest technical audio faux pas FUCK up. In Pro Audio History. And nobody was to accept the fact. They've all gotten this backwards. They are, adapt. That they are correct! But it doesn't sound correct.. In your monitoring environment. And hey. Spoiler Alert!!
It's not your acoustics. Even, if it is. Because what your speakers are both in negative polarity wiring. And you think it's positive. You really don't know what the FUCK. You are listening to. You don't know how it's supposed to sound. Your speakers are effectively, sucking.. They are not punching out toward you. Even if you can prove they are. LOL. No. They are wired to mimic the motion of the microphone diaphragms. And are those moving out toward you? No they are not. The joke is on you.
And! There you have it! How to monitor like Bruce Swedien and Quincy Jones. And hey. I worked with Quincy Jones for an entire television season as an, Audio Engineer. On a show he was Executive Producer, on. And I know Bruce Swedien.. Or used to. I'm not quite as old. I'm only 67. I'm a youngster. But in the industry for over 50 years LOL. Yes I got a very early start. And so everything I'm telling you is 100% true. For anybody who is actually reading this. And you know who you are. You are the ones seeking knowledge and information. You just got some of the best information ever!
You can flip the polarity on both of your speakers. With the cheapest of hi-fi's.. And you will be pleasantly amazed. You'll freak! I turn all my friends onto this. They have learned the way. To,, pure monitoring nirvana.
Try it and enjoy. With your stereo and passive speakers of any brand except JBL. Those are already connected correctly. If you have them/any. But all others this pertains to. On that you can depend. I fix control room monitoring. The electrical engineers and acoustic engineers can't fix.. Because they think they got their math right. They didn't they made a fundamental error. A beginners error.
It's tragically and pathetically, funny.
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Great Vidéo!!👀🎶✨🙏🏿
3:45 Damn
"The Personality of the music is in the transients"
nice one!
More of these
3:35 i almost unsubscribed but luckily you have a very useful channel. I did a paper on all this in high school and forgot almost all of this until now.
As an assistant I used to love aligning tape machines.
yes do more vids
Rip to the 🐐
Legend
Title should be Micheal Jacksons Producers Studio Secrets
I've also never really been a fan of compression, never personally liked how it sounds. Even with very slow attacks and fast release times, I just never personally liked what compressors do to transients, but I use them anyway because we are told that we need to "glue" our mixes.
is compression even an effect you can be a fan of? its almost needed for every single thing you record
@@TommyWashownot necessarily true, it depends on a lot of things and personal preferences
@@TommyWashowI’ll only use it on harsh sounds when I’m making beats , first eq it, compress to tone it down, and then saturate it
Cliff Clavin with Michael Jackson
make more like this
Dudes an OG... I couldnt imagine what editing must have been like without computerd... Vocal Comping would be almost totally off the table. You really need a talented singer to get a good take.
George T to the fucking moon!
I love me some michael
Really irks me when people mix up the SM7 and SM7B. The SM7 is a totally different mic that is leagues above the SM7B.
love analog ;D
Sick. Hates compassion like me. Also you been in that first studio where they recording strings :p
damn bro why do u hate compassion ?
@@prodbytytaan for the same reasons listed in the video
@@JeffEllisWorldwidecompression *
@@JeffEllisWorldwide lol aren't u the engineer that mixes for frank ocean ? if so that is crazy. I am a fan
I know this is kind of off topic, but is there any chance you can reupload the josh gudwin tracking video? curious on how he uses the cl1b
Now we’re talking
I love compression
Great
final cut boys
This is why I hate when people comment he's the best blah blah blah. They never give credit to any of the producers, or theatrics. The simple truth is if a lot of great musicians out there had millions of dollars, and producers at hand that Michael had they also would be putting out way higher level content. The simple fact is yes Michael was talented, but money and top notch production was literally half of it. I know u hate me for saying it but it's simply true. Poor artists simply are already way way way more disadvantaged.
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Al Schmitt just chilling in the background
Yes compressor was change the dinamic efect
It's better to split the mic's and not compress them but rather filter the sound on a diamond regulator.
Rip Bruce. Surprised you said he "still uses "
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quite a few spots where your voice audio cuts in too quickly over other voice audio, heard it a few times while watching.
i liked the info but watch your vid a few times before you post so you can fix stuff like that.
Pls pls PLEASE do Stevie Wonder’s engineer next
One of the most prolific or is of all time - what's that?
How tf does a finish on a mic grill affect the sound??? Lol idk about that.
The material used in front of the microphone would obviously affect the sound. He was referring to the material not the color
The secret is that many great musician come to the studoo played was recorded and benefited this disturbet artist.
4:54 Yoko Ono is mixing Mike's songs. Who knew???
People like me and michael who have brutally powerful voices . Need mics like the the sm7 because we can literally blow up a condenser microphone. Thats why the sm7 has always been, and still is such a critical and intricate piece in rock production. The sm7 can accurately record a strong wailing singing voice. If you have ever worked with one im sure you know how low it takes in audio, and it needs a lot of power to produce sound. This is why its able to collect the full range and dynamics of an intense gutteral performance... A lot of condenser mics will just overdrive, and simply cant capture all the nuances and frequencies of a belting vocal take . It will literally leave stuff out and fail to represent the singers actual tonality .
Not to mention what will also happen during the a to b digital conversion in our interfaces and daw systems . In a lot of cases a condenser mic is just inadequate and lackluster to certain situations. Thats why in my opinion the SM7 is a mandatory for your studio if you are a serious musician . ( It does more than just vocals) its just a very good piece for handling a Hot input or Loud high frequency instruments.. I got one and i also have the usb one they started making (i forget the model number but its an SM7 USB Mic) The 57 and 58 are also great for your arsenal as well. You can seriously get it all done with those 3 mics ... Sorry for the nerd out ... Actually no im not, go get you an SM7...
You ain’t Michael
@@montysharma2813 no I am not that nigga is dead
you ain’t michael
(michael jackson was technically perfect, with a fully developed range and resonance. What you call “powerful” is just and effect of perfect technique.)
@@srfrover Michael was definitely flat sometimes. But at far as technique I feel you on that sentiment
Appreciate you for this!! Also, retitle the post to Michael not Micheal ;)
He destroyed my world , no compressor ?? 😩😩😭😭
You edit your vocal breaks a bit too close together. At times almost overlap. It doesn't sound natural. Outside that, I really enjoyed this video.
George, are you a studio engineer?
12:1? that's light? guessing that means a very tame threshold then
Yeah, I think so too
Lol. I noticed the bad, forward-leaning posture of many engineers as well. In Dave Pensado videos for example. Also noticed in some barbers, how their shoulders and necks stick forward.
To combat, I got myself a (gaming) chair with neck support, and an adjustable stand for my Laptop, to increase height and change angle.
I would say: "Kids...be smart and don't become a Pensado" ... but that is kinda what we are striving for 😅
After I felt I did damage to my back I simply always stand now. And it only took about 1 year and a half or so of that all day producing. It can happen quick. It's super bad. If only I knew sooner. I simply pray and trust God to heal me.