Man what a solid review. I shared a lot of the same criticisms that you had with this throw. The price mainly being the issue. I am not someone that will shy away from paying a premium price to get a premium product. I collect G2 yoyos, which are not cheap. But when an american made, perfect smooth, high quality yoyo such as a G squared product, has the same price point as a mass produced, 6061 throw manufactured in China, there is a problem. I am not digging on Chinese mfg, there are plenty of great Chinese bi metals that are a fraction of this price with 7075 aluminum and 10/10 smoothness out of the box. This throw in my opinion was priced for the hype. YYF states that the price is due to the fact that it was designed by a Japanese designer, which is great, but it was in no way machined by one. And I have found it is a common trend to receive b grade quality throws due to the vibe, at A-grade pricing when it comes to yoyo factory. I hope they see this review and take it to heart when producing their next product. This comment is not meant to bash YYF, I purchase their products and will continue to do so, but honest criticism is needed in our community, to help companies understand where the bar is set and what consumers expect from a 120$ price tag in 2020. Thanks again for a great video Joe!
Most G2 yoyos (that I'm aware of) have been manufactured in China since early 2018 - Jake posted a blog post about it when he announced the Elite '18. Most of G2's designs are also 6061. Just wanted to correct those inaccuracies.
Some of the things you said about yoyo factory were inaccurate. The replay pro, shutter, and shutter wide angle are all very good at a cheap price compared to similarly preforming yo-yos. The bi metal shutter is very overpriced tho
i agree with you, and with practically everything mentioned in the video. if i had to guess... in its simplest and purest form, i would guess the reason its $120 (or was idk if its dropped since) is because of how well the shutter did, which as far as i can tell having just returned to the yoyo scene and getting up to date with research. it seems like the shutter did extremely well.. and well that surely was enough reason to release a version which is ( correct me if I'm wrong but) a higher tier in terms of quality, and they knew very well that slapping that hefty price was ridiculous, but looking at it from a marketing point of view.. it was perfect and made perfect sense. otherwise i don't think they would of bothered with the whole idea otherwise. just my thought.
Hey joe! As much of a yyf person that I am (obviously) I REALLY appreciate this review. I wholeheartedly encourage you to try yoyos that you have some negative opinions on, and really be strict on your reviewing guidelines. I find too many reviewers that are saturated with positive reviews just because “if it’s not good, why review it?” I would rather the community know the truth than spend 120$ on a yoyo that they didn’t fully understand. That being said, butter is fire. :)
joe i really love your videos, would u consider making a video showing us how many types of 1a yoyo player type/ tricks type? for example like wat fast player usually do, wat tech player's tricks r like, wat else playing style types we could see usually etc .. it would be really interesting to know and i din see anyone else does it.
Can you compare this to the marco? they are both the "bimetal" version of the two rival yoyos, the horizon and shutter, except the Marco is half the price of the butter.
Love your reviews Joe. I really like how you really get down to the points; positive and negative, of a yoyo. especially for a premium one like this. Eventhough I'm working, using those salary solely for a hefty 120 dollar is a bit too much. A very deliberate review like this I definitely appreciate. Again, great job on the awesome reviews.
good review bro, i gotta say, (and i don't normally go outta my way to say these kinda things but) I love that you target and hit all the right areas about the product. u basically nailed it!. very informative...and well before anything else, lets be honest most kids your age somehow always come off a little bit foolish and far from accurate with facts and information, almost like they jump the gun into making the review without actually having sufficient knowledge or taking the time into doing proper research prior to recoring, anyhow. in your case i really liked the way you express yourself, you really come off as being very bright and intelligent, which is more than i can say from kids in your age range. you got a lot of potential kid. so with that being said, that's 2 big thumbs up for me bro, keep putting out content with this level of quality and IMHO i don't see why you wouldn't reach the goals you aimed for in terms of being a UA-camr... you got my sub.!
I agree with your opinion, After playing so many yyf yo-yos. I realized that the quality of yyf original boxed yo-yos are really based on luck. Sometimes I get a b grade yo-yo and it performs better than the original ones
Definitely one of the best reviews from you! 😄😄😄 If you're doing a Shutter family comparasion, I highly recommend you to add the Shu-Ta, since the cup of it and the bishutter's is basically the same. Also because people said the original Shutter should have been the Shu-Ta directly. I don't own a Shu-Ta but I'm sure you can find someone to lend it to you for this review 🙏🏼 PD: Both Shutter and Shutter WA have been beaters of mine, my fav is the WA. I totally agree that the shape of the Bimetal Shutter is satisfying to throw and catch 🤤🤤🤤 But fot 120$ it's not worth it IMO. People be callin it the butter but as a Mediterranean myself I know there's no smoothest thing than Olive oil. Make an olive oil smooth bi-Shutter yoyo and then we'll talk. PD2: can the kids stop eating butter to promote the Butter it's grosssssss 🤣
Can you please make a video comparing it to the shutter wide angle and the normal shutter? Plz, I don’t know which one to buy🤔 thank you for your time☺️
Great Review!! So here's the $1M question... BiMetal Shutter? Or Bi Metal ND (BiND) I know you compete with the BiND, would you consider the Bi Shutter? Since they're the same price from the same maker, how different are they from each other? (Possible future video??)
I have a big metal shutter and I completely agree. It's a very good yoyo but, they really should have put more time and care. Like 7068 aluminum, titanium axel,and a nsk bearing if they are going to charge $120. (BTW my bi metal shutter was donated to me for Christmas, I did not pay for it). Otherwise MAYBE $100. You should compare this to the OG edge. Also I may have gotten a good batch of you got a bad batch but mine is smooth as butter 👌.
I was turned off by the price since my income has been rather tight for the past 3 years. I do like your rationale behind your assessment on the price. I was thinking they should have aimed for that $90-95 price point.
Great review! This really decided it for me! I think it's a bit overpriced, for you that has been awaited for six years maybe $75 nearer the mark it took me three months to save up, still the Best yo-yo I have ever played with
I was thinking of grabbing this, because I really want a bi-metal yoyo, but i suspected that, since its YYF, the quality wouldn't be all that great, as they are mass produced in China and don't exactly have that good of quality control. I guess I'll just wait for some One Drop bi-metals to drop.
So I am intermediate yo-yo player I like doing trapeze I need a yo-yo that can spin for a long time and has a really good bearing have any recommendations the bi metal shutter is a little out of my price range I would say around the max is 60 bucks I really like the look of the ippon
@@jackweidow3794 never tried it always wanted to tho. Always been wary when getting plastic metal hybrids but I think they have gotten all the bugs out of manufacturing by now.
Understandable for the price criticism, but keep in mind yes it woupd have been nice for the yoyo to be made out of a 7075 or 7071 alloy, yes it would have been nice to get an NSK bearing, but... the design of this yoyo is from ankther company. That other company will not just pass out a design to another business. The reason this yoyo is expensive is because they have to pay that company for every unit sold. Thus kind of justifying the price. Mine was a gift to me and I love the yoyo its new but familiar in a way. I has a different magic about it almost like some clyws. But its own unique "magic" i would have personally priced it in the 80's or 90's, maybe $100.
The edge also preformed amazing, and mine personally did not have any vibe. Plus the edge came out when the standard was a more expensive throw. 2020 is a whole different story.
This is the first time I’ve seen Joe have almost nothing good to say about a yo-yo. Seeing the effort he put into trying to give it some positive feedback tells me this isn’t a good throw.
If Apple made yoyo's. Everyone's held hostage to their price tags and needs to justify it to avoid buyer's remorse. Good yo's, sure! Well priced, nah. Flawless QC? Why bother, right? People will still buy it. Perhaps that is how marketing works these days or always has, most people burn money and that bleeds some peals here and there, so I say: Thank you to all the people that bought these over priced, over hyped and under refined stuff. Peace.
Man what a solid review. I shared a lot of the same criticisms that you had with this throw. The price mainly being the issue. I am not someone that will shy away from paying a premium price to get a premium product. I collect G2 yoyos, which are not cheap. But when an american made, perfect smooth, high quality yoyo such as a G squared product, has the same price point as a mass produced, 6061 throw manufactured in China, there is a problem. I am not digging on Chinese mfg, there are plenty of great Chinese bi metals that are a fraction of this price with 7075 aluminum and 10/10 smoothness out of the box. This throw in my opinion was priced for the hype. YYF states that the price is due to the fact that it was designed by a Japanese designer, which is great, but it was in no way machined by one. And I have found it is a common trend to receive b grade quality throws due to the vibe, at A-grade pricing when it comes to yoyo factory. I hope they see this review and take it to heart when producing their next product. This comment is not meant to bash YYF, I purchase their products and will continue to do so, but honest criticism is needed in our community, to help companies understand where the bar is set and what consumers expect from a 120$ price tag in 2020. Thanks again for a great video Joe! 29 YoYoJoe 1
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Man what a solid review. I shared a lot of the same criticisms that you had with this throw. The price mainly being the issue. I am not someone that will shy away from paying a premium price to get a premium product. I collect G2 yoyos, which are not cheap. But when an american made, perfect smooth, high quality yoyo such as a G squared product, has the same price point as a mass produced, 6061 throw manufactured in China, there is a problem. I am not digging on Chinese mfg, there are plenty of great Chinese bi metals that are a fraction of this price with 7075 aluminum and 10/10 smoothness out of the box. This throw in my opinion was priced for the hype. YYF states that the price is due to the fact that it was designed by a Japanese designer, which is great, but it was in no way machined by one. And I have found it is a common trend to receive b grade quality throws due to the vibe, at A-grade pricing when it comes to yoyo factory. I hope they see this review and take it to heart when producing their next product. This comment is not meant to bash YYF, I purchase their products and will continue to do so, but honest criticism is needed in our community, to help companies understand where the bar is set and what consumers expect from a 120$ price tag in 2020. Thanks again for a great video Joe!
Most G2 yoyos (that I'm aware of) have been manufactured in China since early 2018 - Jake posted a blog post about it when he announced the Elite '18. Most of G2's designs are also 6061. Just wanted to correct those inaccuracies.
Some of the things you said about yoyo factory were inaccurate. The replay pro, shutter, and shutter wide angle are all very good at a cheap price compared to similarly preforming yo-yos.
The bi metal shutter is very overpriced tho
@@theraccoonasaur3282 my comment was specifically only about the bi metal shutter. I wasn’t commenting on the price of their less expensive models.
i agree with you, and with practically everything mentioned in the video. if i had to guess... in its simplest and purest form, i would guess the reason its $120 (or was idk if its dropped since) is because of how well the shutter did, which as far as i can tell having just returned to the yoyo scene and getting up to date with research. it seems like the shutter did extremely well.. and well that surely was enough reason to release a version which is ( correct me if I'm wrong but) a higher tier in terms of quality, and they knew very well that slapping that hefty price was ridiculous, but looking at it from a marketing point of view.. it was perfect and made perfect sense. otherwise i don't think they would of bothered with the whole idea otherwise. just my thought.
Hey joe! As much of a yyf person that I am (obviously) I REALLY appreciate this review. I wholeheartedly encourage you to try yoyos that you have some negative opinions on, and really be strict on your reviewing guidelines. I find too many reviewers that are saturated with positive reviews just because “if it’s not good, why review it?” I would rather the community know the truth than spend 120$ on a yoyo that they didn’t fully understand.
That being said, butter is fire. :)
this is true. I agree some negatives are need to be addressed as well on a yoyo.
Thanks Ryan!!!
Im a simple man. A see a joe yoyo video i click it
2 years later, still the best yoyo review on UA-cam
come on gentry let's get joe a free yoyo next time. you got plenty!! lol
joe i really love your videos, would u consider making a video showing us how many types of 1a yoyo player type/ tricks type? for example like wat fast player usually do, wat tech player's tricks r like, wat else playing style types we could see usually etc .. it would be really interesting to know and i din see anyone else does it.
Thank you Joe, I like that you share positive and negative aspects here, keep it up man!
What up that is my favorite Yo-Yo
Can you compare this to the marco? they are both the "bimetal" version of the two rival yoyos, the horizon and shutter, except the Marco is half the price of the butter.
Skip out on yoyo factory
Love your reviews Joe. I really like how you really get down to the points; positive and negative, of a yoyo. especially for a premium one like this. Eventhough I'm working, using those salary solely for a hefty 120 dollar is a bit too much. A very deliberate review like this I definitely appreciate. Again, great job on the awesome reviews.
good review bro, i gotta say, (and i don't normally go outta my way to say these kinda things but) I love that you target and hit all the right areas about the product. u basically nailed it!. very informative...and well before anything else, lets be honest most kids your age somehow always come off a little bit foolish and far from accurate with facts and information, almost like they jump the gun into making the review without actually having sufficient knowledge or taking the time into doing proper research prior to recoring, anyhow. in your case i really liked the way you express yourself, you really come off as being very bright and intelligent, which is more than i can say from kids in your age range. you got a lot of potential kid. so with that being said, that's 2 big thumbs up for me bro, keep putting out content with this level of quality and IMHO i don't see why you wouldn't reach the goals you aimed for in terms of being a UA-camr... you got my sub.!
I agree with your opinion, After playing so many yyf yo-yos. I realized that the quality of yyf original boxed yo-yos are really based on luck. Sometimes I get a b grade yo-yo and it performs better than the original ones
Clicked as soon as I saw your Instagram story
Same
Definitely one of the best reviews from you! 😄😄😄
If you're doing a Shutter family comparasion, I highly recommend you to add the Shu-Ta, since the cup of it and the bishutter's is basically the same. Also because people said the original Shutter should have been the Shu-Ta directly.
I don't own a Shu-Ta but I'm sure you can find someone to lend it to you for this review 🙏🏼
PD: Both Shutter and Shutter WA have been beaters of mine, my fav is the WA. I totally agree that the shape of the Bimetal Shutter is satisfying to throw and catch 🤤🤤🤤 But fot 120$ it's not worth it IMO.
People be callin it the butter but as a Mediterranean myself I know there's no smoothest thing than Olive oil. Make an olive oil smooth bi-Shutter yoyo and then we'll talk.
PD2: can the kids stop eating butter to promote the Butter it's grosssssss 🤣
I think the Shutter series set a precedent of super high performance budget metals and now it's suffering from success.
Not a g squared yoyo for sure, thing was vibing all around the place
I wonder if the Marco yoyo plays better. It has better finger spin for sure, and less expensive
Yoyofactory Meerkat Review please?!
I wanna dive a little deeper. Wow how deep to the ocean grounds lol. Sick yoyo btw
Did you ever do the review with a comparison to the three? The original, wide angle and bimetal?
Thanks for the review
Got one during the amayzing sale for $60 and loving it
It looks AMAZING!
What's that background music?
Can you please make a video comparing it to the shutter wide angle and the normal shutter? Plz, I don’t know which one to buy🤔 thank
you for your time☺️
Great Review!! So here's the $1M question... BiMetal Shutter? Or Bi Metal ND (BiND) I know you compete with the BiND, would you consider the Bi Shutter? Since they're the same price from the same maker, how different are they from each other? (Possible future video??)
I have a big metal shutter and I completely agree. It's a very good yoyo but, they really should have put more time and care. Like 7068 aluminum, titanium axel,and a nsk bearing if they are going to charge $120. (BTW my bi metal shutter was donated to me for Christmas, I did not pay for it). Otherwise MAYBE $100. You should compare this to the OG edge. Also I may have gotten a good batch of you got a bad batch but mine is smooth as butter 👌.
I was turned off by the price since my income has been rather tight for the past 3 years. I do like your rationale behind your assessment on the price. I was thinking they should have aimed for that $90-95 price point.
Great review! This really decided it for me! I think it's a bit overpriced, for you that has been awaited for six years maybe $75 nearer the mark it took me three months to save up, still the Best yo-yo I have ever played with
thr bi metal or butter part was so funny😂
What strings do you use for this yoyo?
I want a proper honest review on the original edge by Evan nagao?????
I was thinking of grabbing this, because I really want a bi-metal yoyo, but i suspected that, since its YYF, the quality wouldn't be all that great, as they are mass produced in China and don't exactly have that good of quality control. I guess I'll just wait for some One Drop bi-metals to drop.
How does yyf focus and marco compare to this? They are much cheaper bi-metal yoyo.
Great review. Just by the review alone...i know there are better bi-metals than the bi-metal shutter. Thanks for keeping it real
So I am intermediate yo-yo player I like doing trapeze I need a yo-yo that can spin for a long time and has a really good bearing have any recommendations the bi metal shutter is a little out of my price range I would say around the max is 60 bucks I really like the look of the ippon
Get an I yoyo Ritter one of the best throws for around 55 bucks I believe.
jax throws does Iyoyo make it
Yes sir. Also Duncan's strix are on sale for 20 on yoyo expert. Would recommend Ritter over that but still a good deal
jax throws do you have any thought on the Iyoyo iceberg
@@jackweidow3794 never tried it always wanted to tho. Always been wary when getting plastic metal hybrids but I think they have gotten all the bugs out of manufacturing by now.
Good for you, hold them to a standard they set themselves when rhey decided to charge that price.
How are you liking your Umbra?
Nice video! 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Imo the butter doesnt really feel like a shutter, has a totally different personality to it
How good it is for horizontal?❔
yes
how would you compare it to the marco and edge? which is the best buy?
Considering Marco is his competition yoyo I would guess he would say the marco
Cool
Understandable for the price criticism, but keep in mind yes it woupd have been nice for the yoyo to be made out of a 7075 or 7071 alloy, yes it would have been nice to get an NSK bearing, but... the design of this yoyo is from ankther company. That other company will not just pass out a design to another business. The reason this yoyo is expensive is because they have to pay that company for every unit sold. Thus kind of justifying the price. Mine was a gift to me and I love the yoyo its new but familiar in a way. I has a different magic about it almost like some clyws. But its own unique "magic" i would have personally priced it in the 80's or 90's, maybe $100.
Edit: sorry for spelling. Comment from phone.
cool
It’s worth noting that the edge was $120 dollars when it came out as well.....and it’s not made of high quality metal.......
Well I think at that time yoyos were overall more expensive than today
The edge also preformed amazing, and mine personally did not have any vibe. Plus the edge came out when the standard was a more expensive throw. 2020 is a whole different story.
Fewtile, tyga x blueface beat, i see you
This is the first time I’ve seen Joe have almost nothing good to say about a yo-yo. Seeing the effort he put into trying to give it some positive feedback tells me this isn’t a good throw.
*W I D E*
Amazon sells it for $10 cheaper 😂
Peyton Cali really?
Last time I checked it was but I checked again and it was full price
Comment with what the price should be for those who have played one. I feel like 90 dollars would be fine
The butter should be 80 to 90 bucks
Mfw (My face when) I see genty stein new yoyo: 🤪
I don't think there is any excuse for a company to Chinese manufacturer a yoyo, then make it than 100 dollars.
I've always wanted a shutter, still I got no shutter :/
Hope u like yoyoing more than pg3d now..
the wide angle shutter or the bi-metal the prise dose not matter
If Apple made yoyo's. Everyone's held hostage to their price tags and needs to justify it to avoid buyer's remorse. Good yo's, sure! Well priced, nah. Flawless QC? Why bother, right? People will still buy it. Perhaps that is how marketing works these days or always has, most people burn money and that bleeds some peals here and there, so I say:
Thank you to all the people that bought these over priced, over hyped and under refined stuff.
Peace.
my friend told me that the bi-metal shutter sucked. so i chucked his yoyo on the floor
Anybody else snooping around to figure out what yoyo they're going to buy with their Corona check?
Just you
Man what a solid review. I shared a lot of the same criticisms that you had with this throw. The price mainly being the issue. I am not someone that will shy away from paying a premium price to get a premium product. I collect G2 yoyos, which are not cheap. But when an american made, perfect smooth, high quality yoyo such as a G squared product, has the same price point as a mass produced, 6061 throw manufactured in China, there is a problem. I am not digging on Chinese mfg, there are plenty of great Chinese bi metals that are a fraction of this price with 7075 aluminum and 10/10 smoothness out of the box. This throw in my opinion was priced for the hype. YYF states that the price is due to the fact that it was designed by a Japanese designer, which is great, but it was in no way machined by one. And I have found it is a common trend to receive b grade quality throws due to the vibe, at A-grade pricing when it comes to yoyo factory. I hope they see this review and take it to heart when producing their next product. This comment is not meant to bash YYF, I purchase their products and will continue to do so, but honest criticism is needed in our community, to help companies understand where the bar is set and what consumers expect from a 120$ price tag in 2020. Thanks again for a great video Joe!
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