The biggest strength of MSK is the fact that he can negate CC and constantly regenerate his shield (as long as his skill activates 3 times), and as far as i'm aware, there's only 1 clan trait out there that somewhat counters shield users, so he's pretty much unstoppable at max vigor. the active skill isn't explained properly even though there's a lot of text included, but as far as i have seen, once he enters dominance state (his ult) he gains a an insane amount of shield, which gets stronger with strength. so if you were to put honorable + Steadfast on him and manage to get his strength around 10M range, he is a force to be reckoned with, something straight out of a nightmare. had a MSK wipe out my team 1 all on his own (after i had killed everyone else on his team) where i had a 120V W&S and Fenix on the team, they couldn't even break past his shield with both fierce and brutal on them both. my team was 250M power and theirs was 230M, so id say it was an "even" enough match. he should easily be able to solo carry teams as long as he is at his highest potential. my MSK is at 60V and i shall focus on him once i'm done with my main team. he is definitely not a champion to sleep on.
The real lesson learned isn't about whether M Soul Keeper is Win More or Not. It's that no 'Meta Team Composition' is the end all be all, instant win button. You need to look at what each opponent is doing, and what champions you have in your roster to slot in, in order to counter or at least survive what the opponent is doing in order to enable you to win.
The only thing I would add is that where the Soul Keeper has potential to shine is in ultra high MWS battles where they're both so high it's hard to burst through the healing. I'm working on trying a team that includes both MSK and M Segarak to see if between the two of them they can burst those ultra high teams that could just use their massive MSK to heal through otherwise.
I find that his ulti works the most if Male w&s hasn't been able to use his ulti, so best paired with a few control champions it's not useless at any means you just have to build your team right
It’s my opinion that your example videos show how the cookie cutter comp can absorb all sorts of Heros and produce a win. Which is fine. But MSK offers more than his execute. I don’t typically toss MSK on a cookie cutter mws fenix fho comp. Instead, I’d run a defensive line around him like xys fgali and mfire doggo. His heal suppression is also key, as mws is everywhere, and his shielding mixed with Gultang trait / 4th slot sprite shield is a fearsome combo. Without MSK my defensive heavy team doesn’t hold well. It’s definitely not a win more champ, squad specific, to where any champ is a win. All roads lead to Rome and a win is a win. I also wanted to point out that pre charging energy in voc or gc on msk is extra effective at high level. Near instant ult and execute - instead of an all out battle. Once msk is rolling he’s a powerhouse. 70+m power, 11+m stren, he changes my field in a way others cannot.
I believe he kept saying Meta teams... which is why he was testing with a Meta team. Does or would your team Fair well against the teams he was against?
Male SK is the type of hero you can build a team around. I don’t think you can say that about a lot other champions. I have him paired with silken crown, both male and female, female tideraiser, and female almat. They rocks in VoC.
Lion i saw a statement that was made on discord that i wasnt sure if you could test. The statement is companion exchange is better value than champion events. Im curious about free vs paid champion event and which is better focus and which is better. If you cant i will see about compiling info later.
Id be curious what traits were swapped also when changing those champs around. My benefit to msk is the hard to kill f gali etc that you get so close they heal, then timeout, he executes
@LionRoarGamer Are you planning on getting the new Bloodcraft Champion Sunbolt? I just got her and she seems to be bugged with her ultimate not executing the second half. GOAT is trying to pretend it's just fine but I'd love to get some others to corroborate this issue.
@@TheNightcrowsNest So the 2 second stun only happens when the shield is broken and effects only those right next to her. So not overly useful. Her passive is like a miniature MSK anyone that drops under 50% gets quickly beat down. Her problem is that in the Water/Sun meta teams most matches are seconds depending on who gets Lionstone F + MWS first. Her passive doesn't do anything when everyone dies instantly and her shield stun isn't helping. Ultimate does big initial damage but not having the second half hurts a lot there. Overall a great B Team champion but so far with a broken ultimate not A Team material.
Interesting... I'm not in a server where it is over run with male soul keepers...so either everyone already discovered it isn't that good...or they don't have the ability to vigor it up enough to be effective? Me personally, I skipped it when it came out. I knew it wasn't that good when I saw it. Lol.
Yeah MWS is better..put high health on your team and it will stall enough time for you to take out MSK but you need to do it quickly with a high damage dealer
Male Soul Keeper is the ultimate Pay2Win champion. You don't even need to invest in another champion at all just pile it all into MSK and you will always win against anything near your power level. It's incredibly cheap and lame, worse even than water/sun.
Nahhh forget about MSK pile it all into MWS and nuke the entire map…aslong as your team has high health youll hold out and do fine against MSK. MWS however will wipe you and stun you at the same time making it hard to do anything..
I believe so but as of now of course everyone is gonna say he’s OP and this and that.. especially when they go up against a MSK who has maxed out traits, 120 vigored, maxed sprites, maxed celestial bonds, maxed guardian stone boards..but try go up against a maxed out MWS they easily wouldn’t even last the first few waves of its ult 😂
The biggest strength of MSK is the fact that he can negate CC and constantly regenerate his shield (as long as his skill activates 3 times), and as far as i'm aware, there's only 1 clan trait out there that somewhat counters shield users, so he's pretty much unstoppable at max vigor. the active skill isn't explained properly even though there's a lot of text included, but as far as i have seen, once he enters dominance state (his ult) he gains a an insane amount of shield, which gets stronger with strength. so if you were to put honorable + Steadfast on him and manage to get his strength around 10M range, he is a force to be reckoned with, something straight out of a nightmare.
had a MSK wipe out my team 1 all on his own (after i had killed everyone else on his team) where i had a 120V W&S and Fenix on the team, they couldn't even break past his shield with both fierce and brutal on them both. my team was 250M power and theirs was 230M, so id say it was an "even" enough match. he should easily be able to solo carry teams as long as he is at his highest potential. my MSK is at 60V and i shall focus on him once i'm done with my main team. he is definitely not a champion to sleep on.
Would you do a video about synergies? Please?
The real lesson learned isn't about whether M Soul Keeper is Win More or Not. It's that no 'Meta Team Composition' is the end all be all, instant win button. You need to look at what each opponent is doing, and what champions you have in your roster to slot in, in order to counter or at least survive what the opponent is doing in order to enable you to win.
BINGO! I’m glad someone knows this.. 🙄😒
It’s a great point
The only thing I would add is that where the Soul Keeper has potential to shine is in ultra high MWS battles where they're both so high it's hard to burst through the healing. I'm working on trying a team that includes both MSK and M Segarak to see if between the two of them they can burst those ultra high teams that could just use their massive MSK to heal through otherwise.
Let me know how it goes
I find that his ulti works the most if Male w&s hasn't been able to use his ulti, so best paired with a few control champions it's not useless at any means you just have to build your team right
So from what i've seen it looks like there is a fight to be had in this game rn.
It’s my opinion that your example videos show how the cookie cutter comp can absorb all sorts of Heros and produce a win. Which is fine. But MSK offers more than his execute. I don’t typically toss MSK on a cookie cutter mws fenix fho comp. Instead, I’d run a defensive line around him like xys fgali and mfire doggo. His heal suppression is also key, as mws is everywhere, and his shielding mixed with Gultang trait / 4th slot sprite shield is a fearsome combo. Without MSK my defensive heavy team doesn’t hold well. It’s definitely not a win more champ, squad specific, to where any champ is a win. All roads lead to Rome and a win is a win.
I also wanted to point out that pre charging energy in voc or gc on msk is extra effective at high level. Near instant ult and execute - instead of an all out battle. Once msk is rolling he’s a powerhouse. 70+m power, 11+m stren, he changes my field in a way others cannot.
I believe he kept saying Meta teams... which is why he was testing with a Meta team. Does or would your team Fair well against the teams he was against?
Nice insights, I enjoyed reading this and I think you made a lot of great points
Male SK is the type of hero you can build a team around. I don’t think you can say that about a lot other champions. I have him paired with silken crown, both male and female, female tideraiser, and female almat. They rocks in VoC.
What would you think of askavarg with him and f tide? Of course fenix and mws that way they are all grouped with no healing
Lion i saw a statement that was made on discord that i wasnt sure if you could test. The statement is companion exchange is better value than champion events. Im curious about free vs paid champion event and which is better focus and which is better. If you cant i will see about compiling info later.
Id be curious what traits were swapped also when changing those champs around. My benefit to msk is the hard to kill f gali etc that you get so close they heal, then timeout, he executes
Yes true!
@LionRoarGamer Are you planning on getting the new Bloodcraft Champion Sunbolt? I just got her and she seems to be bugged with her ultimate not executing the second half. GOAT is trying to pretend it's just fine but I'd love to get some others to corroborate this issue.
So sunbolt is not good? Should I stop my progress?
@@TheNightcrowsNest She is pretty good as far as an assassin goes. But her ultimate being bugged is holding her back.
She seems like a walking killing machine...is she not?
@@TheNightcrowsNest So the 2 second stun only happens when the shield is broken and effects only those right next to her. So not overly useful. Her passive is like a miniature MSK anyone that drops under 50% gets quickly beat down. Her problem is that in the Water/Sun meta teams most matches are seconds depending on who gets Lionstone F + MWS first. Her passive doesn't do anything when everyone dies instantly and her shield stun isn't helping. Ultimate does big initial damage but not having the second half hurts a lot there. Overall a great B Team champion but so far with a broken ultimate not A Team material.
@@HowlWindclaw thanks for the info....sad news... I'm still going to get her... I guess...with hopes whatever is wrong gets fixed.
How about using f galibar and replace fenix with MSK. It's all about that mom when your team is in ulti and you close the deal. No MWS commeback!!!
I kinda also feel that if you are going MSK then fenix is kinda redundant because her damage as seen is minimal.
Interesting... I'm not in a server where it is over run with male soul keepers...so either everyone already discovered it isn't that good...or they don't have the ability to vigor it up enough to be effective? Me personally, I skipped it when it came out. I knew it wasn't that good when I saw it. Lol.
Yeah MWS is better..put high health on your team and it will stall enough time for you to take out MSK but you need to do it quickly with a high damage dealer
Like to see u do a video on how goat game was giving better deals on new servers on the Thanksgiving packs like to see how you feel about that
What did new servers get versus older servers?
@@Xerohour85 on the 30 dollars pack if u got the roses u would get 540 rose from using the 2.5 tickets
@@Xerohour85 215ish bouquets on $30 tab. 2.5 multiplier added to that is 530ish. Everyone else received like 75 at the same threshold, right?
It's fair .. new servers get worst value packs as well compared to older servers
Please make a new tier list update video
New tier list please😁
Please do synergy update vid
WHAT IS FULL FORM OF ❤ DPS ❤CHAMPIONS😅
Damage per second
am i the only one who uses soul keeper as a semi tank????🤣 i mean he takes damage well
First!
Male Soul Keeper is the ultimate Pay2Win champion. You don't even need to invest in another champion at all just pile it all into MSK and you will always win against anything near your power level. It's incredibly cheap and lame, worse even than water/sun.
Nahhh forget about MSK pile it all into MWS and nuke the entire map…aslong as your team has high health youll hold out and do fine against MSK. MWS however will wipe you and stun you at the same time making it hard to do anything..
Once at the very top... when everyone has everything maxed out...does MSK become obsolete?
Once at the very top... when everyone has everything maxed out...does MSK become obsolete?
I believe so but as of now of course everyone is gonna say he’s OP and this and that.. especially when they go up against a MSK who has maxed out traits, 120 vigored, maxed sprites, maxed celestial bonds, maxed guardian stone boards..but try go up against a maxed out MWS they easily wouldn’t even last the first few waves of its ult 😂
@@TopKnotch808that's what I think.... MSK rules against weak teams and that's about it