In this video I fully rebuild a 1947 southbend model A apron and saddle. If you have any questions feel free to drop a comment! Thank you #lathe #machine #machinist
I have to do this job soon to a Heavy 10R. You make it look so easy! But the price for that kit has gone up a LOT in the last 4 years. Thanks for a great video!
Awww that sucks to hear but best of luck to ya! It’s just felt when it gets down to it. You could get a sheet of 0.125 and cut it appropriately with tin snips
For anyone watching this with any hesitate, dont worry. Southbend 9 aprons are super simple. If you have trouble remembering locations, take a couple pictures but you really shouldn't need to. Go for it.
Yes you are right they do seem pretty complicated but are relatively straightforward. I made this video because although each assembly is easy when you look at the whole thing it is pretty complex, especially for anyone just getting into machining. Take care, Boone
This is great!, I need to do this on my 1989 Boxford lathe, and it's exactly the same as the South Bend, as an machine tool engineering fitter of 50 years, I'm impressed by your competance, this is a very good and precise instructional video, thanks for uploading...have subscribed, cheers Dave
Great job straight forward no fooling around right to the point beautiful question though so way that you can give me a breakdown of the oil that you use I would appreciate it thank you
Definitely the best video on how to rebuild the apron. Do you have any vids of rebuilding the other components on the SB9? Just wondering what you use for way oil as well? Only real way oil I can get is sold in 5 gal quantity, so I'm looking for an alternative, heard engine oil work well
Hey bud, so glad you liked the video! www.ebay.com/itm/123818051435?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=0OtUlcMfRO6&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=9yr47rxpqve&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY This is the stuff I use mobile vectra no. 2 way oil in 1 qt quantity. It’s good quality stuff. You definitely could use motor oil but this is a higher grade oil that smells less and is easy to clean up in the cold. Also the bottle is great for application.
Thanks for this. Very clear instructions. I need to tear in to my 9C apron. There's lots of slop when the lead screw engages the apron. Hope what I find isn't too big of a mess.
Just bought me a 9a and came across your video. It sounds like you’re a young man and I’m impressed. Not many guys your age into these things anymore and they’re probably worse for it. You did an exceptional job on your carriage assembly. I’ll definitely be referring to it when I take everything apart to clean and freshen up mine a little bit. Let your folks know they did a fantastic job with you and Keep up the good work brother
You all probably dont care but does someone know of a tool to get back into an Instagram account? I somehow lost my password. I appreciate any help you can offer me!
@Fernando Xavier thanks for your reply. I found the site on google and im waiting for the hacking stuff atm. Seems to take quite some time so I will get back to you later with my results.
gr8 video thanks - REALLY helped me put mine back together today- one thing i believe you missed a wire spring on those two half washers to keep them parallel- otherwise gr8 vid!
Hey glad it helped! Sorry about that and thank you for pointing that out. It’s been so long I don’t know exactly what your referring too but your probably right. If you find my content interesting, please consider subscribing or liking, either way helps. And again thanks pal.
'What a nice job TY for the video !!! Just starting gathering info on these SB lathes .My 9" 57574NAR is missing the large gib any idea if they can be purchased ? Or do they need to be made up?
Boone- I’ve inherited my southbend 9” lathe from my 92 year old father, and I grew up watching him do some amazing tooling on this machine both with steel and wood, and now it’s I’m my hands at 58 years old. I have to say that your video is fully comprehensive and very helpful, especially this one as a starter. All the parts to disassemble are very intimidating, but I don’t think it’s beyond my ability. Thanks so much, Very helpful. Ps- wha5 state are you located in- I’m in NYC!
That's awesome Anthony! I always love hearing people's stories. Great machines from another era. Aww dang, I'm in Northern CA. If you feel like it, post a video, id love to see it.
@@boonetesterman yes, I’m gonna tackle this lathe cleaning in the days to come, can’t wait! . Ps- this video is me and whether or not your Car guy or Chitty Chitty Bang Bang fan, this might interest you or not, give it a look. I’ve done some crazy things in my life, but this seems to be the biggest and most appreciated by viewers. Google my name for other Chitty car Stuff too. Peace and thanks again- Tony Garofalo ua-cam.com/video/aDXQhJE54x8/v-deo.html
The key inside the worm gear has a pin that goes through the barrel of the work gear into the nut. Find the pin in the nut with a small round punch and tap it out then unthread the nut. Thanks for asking
I’m doing up my Dads old Hercus 9. What’s your opinion on repainting these old vintage lathes? Is is better to repaint or leave the patina. If leave, how best to protect the once painted surface from rust when the original paint worn off?
Excellent Question Pete! Glad you asked. That’s great you have not only a fine machine tool but family history with it. Well it really depends, If I repaint I always go stock color or as close to it as possible. Not a fan of bright flashy colors on machine tools. Rust oleum oil based enamel is my favorite. Sprayed rolled or brushed it looks great and is quite durable. I’ve found that it works better without primer on clean warmed castings (75F) in thin enough coats that it still levels out. As for leaving the paint, there is a good argument for that too. I left mine because i really like the look of oiled cast and felt like it’s worn places connected me with the previous operators habits and style. Sounds silly but paint and how it has worn really tells a great story of how a machine tool was used. Was it cleaned daily? How was it touched? Things like that are cool to preserve because they represent generations past and what those people valued. Depending on where you live you’ll have different “degrees” of vulnerability to surface rust although me living in a dryer environment I have no issue with it. If you keep it covered in a thin layer of medium weight oil you should be fine. I keep mine covered with a sheet too to keep abrasive dust off it. Hope this helps, Best, Boone.
Is your lathe not painted? Did you strip it, or did it come that way? How do you prevent it from rusting? I'm restoring one of these, and I like the bare look. The paint on mine is crappy, so the idea of stripping it is intriguing. Thanks for the vid btw, this is very helpful.
It's still got some paint left on it but a lot of it's worn off on the contact places. I live in a high desert so don't have to worry about rust too much. Just keep a film of oil on it all the time and keep it covered with a natural fiber cover like canvas or even an old bedsheet. Thanks for the comment and watching! If you do end up painting Id recommend Rustoleum smoke grey gloss oil-based enamel. You can get it at home depot and it's a pretty good product.
Beautiful. Thanks. I’m trying to dismantle my cross slide on my SB 10L. I have the handle and dial off but can’t get the bushing to unscrew. It seems frozen. Any ideas on how to remove it to get the cross slide screw out? Thanks, Paul
Hey Paul! Not sure on that off the top of my head. I’d look for a tapered pin or apply a little heat and twist it in both directions with a copper shimmed set of vice grips or knipex pliers
@@boonetesterman yea, I’ve looked for a pin and I’ve taken a torch to it twice. The big problem is that I can’t fit my 1” wrench on it and the 1 1/16” is too big. Can’t get a solid grip. I’ve tried a crescent wrench and the ones you mentioned. When I put too much torque on it, the wrenches slip off. Driving me crazy Ms Daisy. Thanks.
@@paulmanhart4481yeah I'm literally having the same problem, I can unscrew it a little bit but it just gets stuck after one point. For some reason there is no hole for a pin spanner, so I'm stuck using a wrench and some cloth so I don't scratch the collar. I'm going to try some wd-40 and heat and I'll let you know how it goes
Love the presentation. I followed your video when I cleaned up my apron on my 9A. I am having a problem though. For some reason I the clutch feed is inconsistent. It's like the clutch fighting to stay engaged. It's pulsing at the same speed as the lead screw. I took it apart at least 5 times. Does anyone out there have any idea what the issue is? Thanks for your help in advance!
@@gross43 don’t give up! I can’t help you out much without more details. My email is wboone.testerman@gmail.com if you’d like to send me some pictures or video of the issue.
I have to do this job soon to a Heavy 10R. You make it look so easy! But the price for that kit has gone up a LOT in the last 4 years. Thanks for a great video!
Awww that sucks to hear but best of luck to ya! It’s just felt when it gets down to it. You could get a sheet of 0.125 and cut it appropriately with tin snips
I just disassembled my 9x48 model A and after watching this I am grateful that you took the time to document this for us. Thank you.
One of the best instructional videos I have seen on this subject. Good Job Man!
Just like many others I want to thank you for the best South Bend 9" Lathe Apron on UA-cam!
Thank you so much! I really appreciate it. My lathe was also from a gunsmith and I've always respected how well he took care of it.
I think we have here the best video about how to repair this lathe part. Thank you
alexfreddi hey thank you! I really appreciate it.
Other than the goofy music, this was an excellent video. Your little tips and tricks were bang on. Keep those vids coming. I subscribed.
Thank you for creating this video.
For anyone watching this with any hesitate, dont worry. Southbend 9 aprons are super simple. If you have trouble remembering locations, take a couple pictures but you really shouldn't need to. Go for it.
Yes you are right they do seem pretty complicated but are relatively straightforward. I made this video because although each assembly is easy when you look at the whole thing it is pretty complex, especially for anyone just getting into machining.
Take care,
Boone
A landcruiser and a Southbend lathe, what's not to like here!
Excellent tutorial, I just got a South Bend 9 inch lathe and this will be my video reference for the job done. Thanks for sharing it! Thumbs way up!
Awesome video!
Nice work!
HomemadeTools.net Website thank you!
This is great!, I need to do this on my 1989 Boxford lathe, and it's exactly the same as the South Bend, as an machine tool engineering fitter of 50 years, I'm impressed by your competance, this is a very good and precise instructional video, thanks for uploading...have subscribed, cheers Dave
Hey thanks Dave! It’s reassuring to have a credible person compliment my work. Thank you for subscribing!
He sounds like he’s a good young man and wise beyond his years. An old soul is what the old timers called it. He’s very thorough and professional.
Thanks for this amazing video, you saved me hours of frustration!
Thank you, was very valuable whist restoring my Hercus lathe here in Australia
Very well done!
Right on! ..and worth a subscribe for sure!!
Great job straight forward no fooling around right to the point beautiful question though so way that you can give me a breakdown of the oil that you use I would appreciate it thank you
Definitely the best video on how to rebuild the apron. Do you have any vids of rebuilding the other components on the SB9? Just wondering what you use for way oil as well? Only real way oil I can get is sold in 5 gal quantity, so I'm looking for an alternative, heard engine oil work well
Hey bud, so glad you liked the video!
www.ebay.com/itm/123818051435?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=0OtUlcMfRO6&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=9yr47rxpqve&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY
This is the stuff I use mobile vectra no. 2 way oil in 1 qt quantity. It’s good quality stuff. You definitely could use motor oil but this is a higher grade oil that smells less and is easy to clean up in the cold. Also the bottle is great for application.
Thanks for this. Very clear instructions. I need to tear in to my 9C apron. There's lots of slop when the lead screw engages the apron. Hope what I find isn't too big of a mess.
SB9A Apron disassemble and maintenance
Thanks!
Very good congratulation
This will be bookmarked ! Fantastic flow. I noticed no need for the wire trick with the oil wicks. Must be from a different apron. Again, Good job!
Thanks 🙏
I did an Atlas lathe it's very time-consuming and yeah there's a lot of parts
MUITO BOM seu vídeo. Me ajudou em uma dúvida q eu tinha na montagem .
Just bought me a 9a and came across your video. It sounds like you’re a young man and I’m impressed. Not many guys your age into these things anymore and they’re probably worse for it. You did an exceptional job on your carriage assembly. I’ll definitely be referring to it when I take everything apart to clean and freshen up mine a little bit. Let your folks know they did a fantastic job with you and Keep up the good work brother
Thanks Johnathon, really appreciate it man. If you have any questions, feel free. I’ll help you out the best I can.
Best, - Boone.
You all probably dont care but does someone know of a tool to get back into an Instagram account?
I somehow lost my password. I appreciate any help you can offer me!
@Conor Weston Instablaster :)
@Fernando Xavier thanks for your reply. I found the site on google and im waiting for the hacking stuff atm.
Seems to take quite some time so I will get back to you later with my results.
@Fernando Xavier it worked and I now got access to my account again. Im so happy:D
Thanks so much, you saved my ass !
Thise old lathes are sexy as hell. I might be buying a C9-10JR tomorrow.
gr8 video thanks - REALLY helped me put mine back together today- one thing i believe you missed a wire spring on those two half washers to keep them parallel- otherwise gr8 vid!
Hey glad it helped! Sorry about that and thank you for pointing that out. It’s been so long I don’t know exactly what your referring too but your probably right.
If you find my content interesting, please consider subscribing or liking, either way helps. And again thanks pal.
'What a nice job TY for the video !!! Just starting gathering info on these SB lathes .My 9" 57574NAR is missing the large gib any idea if they can be purchased ? Or do they need to be made up?
Boone- I’ve inherited my southbend 9” lathe from my 92 year old father, and I grew up watching him do some amazing tooling on this machine both with steel and wood, and now it’s I’m my hands at 58 years old. I have to say that your video is fully comprehensive and very helpful, especially this one as a starter. All the parts to disassemble are very intimidating, but I don’t think it’s beyond my ability. Thanks so much, Very helpful. Ps- wha5 state are you located in- I’m in NYC!
That's awesome Anthony! I always love hearing people's stories. Great machines from another era. Aww dang, I'm in Northern CA. If you feel like it, post a video, id love to see it.
@@boonetesterman yes, I’m gonna tackle this lathe cleaning in the days to come, can’t wait! . Ps- this video is me and whether or not your Car guy or Chitty Chitty Bang Bang fan, this might interest you or not, give it a look. I’ve done some crazy things in my life, but this seems to be the biggest and most appreciated by viewers. Google my name for other Chitty car Stuff too. Peace and thanks again- Tony Garofalo
ua-cam.com/video/aDXQhJE54x8/v-deo.html
excellent explanation.
17:31 I was waiting for you to notice the hole isn't even across the ring. Bro your attention to detail is the same as mine.
Would you be willing to do a video on more details of the cross feed nut and how you adjust it with those two fasteners?
Just seeing this! Yes I could.
Hello again Boone
Where did you source your assembly oil please? Thanks again for the great video!
Seria bueno que los tutoriales fueran en español
Hello Boone
Why use the A, B, C oil when higher performing synthetic oils are available? Thank you
How does the worm gear really come off. at 7:06 or so, it magically just comes out, but not really seeing how it got there.
The key inside the worm gear has a pin that goes through the barrel of the work gear into the nut. Find the pin in the nut with a small round punch and tap it out then unthread the nut. Thanks for asking
Tail thtock, and your gloves sound like someone playing with their dentures.
And still i enjoyed the video
Hey glad you liked thaw video!
I’m doing up my Dads old Hercus 9. What’s your opinion on repainting these old vintage lathes? Is is better to repaint or leave the patina. If leave, how best to protect the once painted surface from rust when the original paint worn off?
Excellent Question Pete! Glad you asked. That’s great you have not only a fine machine tool but family history with it.
Well it really depends, If I repaint I always go stock color or as close to it as possible. Not a fan of bright flashy colors on machine tools. Rust oleum oil based enamel is my favorite. Sprayed rolled or brushed it looks great and is quite durable. I’ve found that it works better without primer on clean warmed castings (75F) in thin enough coats that it still levels out. As for leaving the paint, there is a good argument for that too. I left mine because i really like the look of oiled cast and felt like it’s worn places connected me with the previous operators habits and style. Sounds silly but paint and how it has worn really tells a great story of how a machine tool was used. Was it cleaned daily? How was it touched? Things like that are cool to preserve because they represent generations past and what those people valued. Depending on where you live you’ll have different “degrees” of vulnerability to surface rust although me living in a dryer environment I have no issue with it. If you keep it covered in a thin layer of medium weight oil you should be fine. I keep mine covered with a sheet too to keep abrasive dust off it.
Hope this helps,
Best, Boone.
Is your lathe not painted? Did you strip it, or did it come that way? How do you prevent it from rusting? I'm restoring one of these, and I like the bare look. The paint on mine is crappy, so the idea of stripping it is intriguing. Thanks for the vid btw, this is very helpful.
It's still got some paint left on it but a lot of it's worn off on the contact places. I live in a high desert so don't have to worry about rust too much. Just keep a film of oil on it all the time and keep it covered with a natural fiber cover like canvas or even an old bedsheet. Thanks for the comment and watching! If you do end up painting Id recommend Rustoleum smoke grey gloss oil-based enamel. You can get it at home depot and it's a pretty good product.
Do you think that you could give a link to where you bought the parts?
Beautiful. Thanks.
I’m trying to dismantle my cross slide on my SB 10L. I have the handle and dial off but can’t get the bushing to unscrew. It seems frozen. Any ideas on how to remove it to get the cross slide screw out?
Thanks,
Paul
Hey Paul! Not sure on that off the top of my head. I’d look for a tapered pin or apply a little heat and twist it in both directions with a copper shimmed set of vice grips or knipex pliers
@@boonetesterman yea, I’ve looked for a pin and I’ve taken a torch to it twice. The big problem is that I can’t fit my 1” wrench on it and the 1 1/16” is too big. Can’t get a solid grip. I’ve tried a crescent wrench and the ones you mentioned. When I put too much torque on it, the wrenches slip off.
Driving me crazy Ms Daisy.
Thanks.
@@paulmanhart4481 damn! Know the feeling. Best of luck. Thanks for checking my video out and leaving a comment.
@@paulmanhart4481yeah I'm literally having the same problem, I can unscrew it a little bit but it just gets stuck after one point. For some reason there is no hole for a pin spanner, so I'm stuck using a wrench and some cloth so I don't scratch the collar. I'm going to try some wd-40 and heat and I'll let you know how it goes
Love the presentation. I followed your video when I cleaned up my apron on my 9A. I am having a problem though. For some reason I the clutch feed is inconsistent. It's like the clutch fighting to stay engaged. It's pulsing at the same speed as the lead screw. I took it apart at least 5 times. Does anyone out there have any idea what the issue is? Thanks for your help in advance!
Huh interesting issue, did you check the wear on your clutch?
I did. Everything looks normal. I'm puzzled but not ready to give up.
@@gross43 don’t give up! I can’t help you out much without more details. My email is wboone.testerman@gmail.com if you’d like to send me some pictures or video of the issue.
I will definitely do that. I will take a video tomorrow and email it to you. Much appreciated!
@@boonetesterman I emailed you a video of the issue.
how did you clean the gears so nicely? what chemical or tool? i am having a hard time.
thanks for any answer!
Hello David,
I used mineral spirits to break the varnished oil and grease. soaked them for a bit. Also a wire brush!
Hope this helps
Best, B
@@boonetesterman Thanks, ive been using it, wow what a huge change in ease of cleaning! was using other chemicals and they sucked!