Yes Evelyn! I love that you brought up the human costs of a plant based diet. With our political climate in the U.S. right now it is so important to talk about farm workers and immigrant workers rights. Harvesting plants is so labor intensive and these folks get paid substandard wages for back breaking work.
greengurlg7 Yeah, that tidbit of her review was extremely insightful. Of all the reviews I've heard from people, she's the first person to bring up the human labor costs -- something I never even thought about.
greengurlg7 So what do you think the animals eat? Most crops grown are fed to farm animals so none vegans are doing at least double the harm and damage right from the outset.
most animals in the US are fed a diet of wheat, corn, soy that is are most produced crops and those crops are part of a large mechanized farming structure, that I already knew.And those crops are larger subsidized by the government. so the human costs of those crops if very little, in terms of picking those crops . . . . so whats your point there? in terms of human costs and labor?
My issue with a lot of these documentaries is they essentially try to shock-value and guilt you in to changing a massive part of your life (how you eat aka survive), yet make you feel like a failure if you can't ascribe to their position 100%. Ultimately, that puts a lot of people off and makes their efforts less effective. The most recent major change to my life is going towards zero waste (trying to reduce the waste you produce as much as possible). I did this not because of all the landfill pictures I saw, not because of any videos of habitats destroyed, but of UA-camrs sharing how they want to do their bit to make the world a slightly better place. Shopping zero waste means avoiding processed food (as they are in packages), and shopping at farmers markets/co-ops, which results in a by-product of a healthier diet. I have made this change and I love it, and part of it is being OK when you throw something in the trash. It's a process, which the channels I follow always talk about. This documentary, there is no way you can come away from it with a positive feeling, and so it will not be as effective as it could be.
Gretchen Gustafson it's the same as with these white privileged vegans that ARE ABLE to live this EXPENSIVE lifestyle and then try to shame if POC can't afford it but won't help them either, for example they could plant organic veggies n fruits but they chose to shame ('poor') meat eaters.
Vegan living is not expensive and most of the vegans/vegetarians in the US are actually black and brown people not white people. The raw food lifestyle is not practical and is very expensive to try to maintain. The Urban Black Vegan on UA-cam is really cool and informative, The Vegan Couple, and many other channels have researched and dived into the topic of cheap, healthy eating. Buying meat is actually far more expensive than buying rice and beans so being "poor" is not an excuse. Tons of poor people are vegan.
sexest falsus Girl I feel you. Right after I graduated from college I had two jobs and was literally working 8am-1am almost every day. I lived on pre-packaged and frozen foods, since I barely had time to see any friends let alone spend 2hrs cooking and cleaning up the mess I made (what I did yesterday). I just didn't see a way to get any fresh food in to my diet consistently, let alone an actually balanced diet. The best book I found for that (where the food actually tastes good) is "Twenty-Dollar, Twenty-Minute Meals" by Caroline Wright. It's not about doing it daily, just as you can :)
leo licht veld. What you just said is a load of nonsense. Humans sweat because the body over heats. In Europe deodorant isn't that common because the weather is cool. Nothing to do with diet.
i'm originally from the Caribbean and because most of our economy is dependent on bananas and arrowroot, not much else is grown and A LOT of the produce and items in the grocery stores are imported. Recently, my mother was shocked that she had to pay the equivalent of $6.50 American dollars for a pack of head of romaine lettuce. so i definitely agree that we should be cautious in saying that everyone should change to a vegan diet because we are PRIVILEGED here in North America. We often forget to think what an impact our desire for fresh fruits and vegetables all day everyday has on the source country and their people.
ok but the reality is the majority of people in the US can go vegan and most would save money doing so, if not initially in food costs, later in medical costs
that's possibly true. but my point is to not focus on the U.S., but rather to think of what the effect is on the places and people who are the source of a lot of the food that a healthy and nutritionally balanced vegan diet would require. The food might be affordable to people in the U.S., but back in the source country, the cost of living ends up being high. The example i gave of $6.50 for lettuce is from St Vincent, an island in the Caribbean. The minimum wage there for an agricultural worker is about 15 US dollars per day. So imagine how hard it is to afford imported products, even though most things are imported because the majority of the land is used for only 2 produce.
the future is locally grown food......you can easily find food grown in the US and when more people start to buy this food and sales go up more will be produced locally. It is supply and demand. I don't think it is something to worry about now...it is definitely not a reason to not go vegan.....it may be something vegans can worry about
I'm so happy you brought up human labor. But let's also keep in mind the amount of plants (mainly corn) that go just for livestock. The amount of land the is dedicated to slaughtering and processing animal meat + the food the animals eat before death is huge. And surpasses the land used to produce plant yields, for humans.
If you want to watch a good documentary that doesn't feel like propaganda watch, "Feel Rich: Health is the New Wealth". It's on Netflix and is about the plant based diet that is starting in the hip-hop community. Best documentary on food and health I've watched so far. Plus it has Uncle Russ and Common in it sharing their knowledge, and many other hip-hop musicians.
I definitely agree with the handling of info in this documentary. Although I'm a vegetarian (and have been for many years) and I agreed with alot of the info, there was something about this documentary that made it feel like propaganda.. IDK, maybe it was the way he "confronted" the organizations....However, there was some good info to be taken away from it as a whole. P.S. love the glasses and scarf!
I like that you mentioned sustainability. It does have to come from somewhere and it is easy for crops to be messed up with a hard rain. So, then what do you have? Do companies find a way to "mass produce" the foods that are plant based... just gets the mind running.
There is also a bias of income. Lower social economical homies can't afford "quinoa." Healthy... well, organic, as there were pushing is expensive. For $7 you can buy a bag of quinoa that serves 4, once... or 10+ chicken wings, a bag/box of rice, and maybe some frozen veggies. If one is budgeting for a family... you may spend that $7 on $0.50 pizzas and really stretch that money. Yes there are places that have bazaars and community gardens... but if they don't. And you can't afford extra travel? It was a very privileged -based, documentary.
C2EAKali i will agree, organic is expensive so i'm not to picky with that, but i went pescatarian 3 years ago and i will say, at first it was expensive trying to eat well. Over time tho i did figure out how to make it work, while on a budget. Costco and Aldi are great places to shop & if you or family is military, the Commissary can be a good option as well. got a 4.5lb bag of quinoa for $17 at costco 😜(40-50 servings)
I honestly wish I could double like this... There are literally hoods in my city that just got grocery stores that actually sell produce within the last 5 years. Some still have none and rely on gas stations and corner stores for grocery shopping. I hate that no one ever addresses how expensive places like Trader Joe's and Whole Foods are...I legit cannot afford to doing the bulk of my shopping there to eat as organically as these documentaries suggest. I do love farmers markets tho lol
Meena m Trader Joe's actually has prices that are lower than its competitors. But you're right about Whole Foods and even local fruit and vegetables markets, they have crazy high prices
i'm 16 and ive been vegan for almost 3 years now, its made my life even better, i feel better and i know that i'm helping the environment and animals even just a little bit. its not even a diet choice anymore, its just my ethical lifestyle. all i can do is encourage and help others who want to know more and are open to veganism, rather than scolding people for what they don't know. ☺️💖
This is why I love you!!!!! You said everything i have been saying and more. Before anyone attacks me, I am a transitioning vegan and have not eaten meat in over a year and a half. Girllllll!!!! Some of these vegans kill me with their ethical causes for animals but ignoring everyday humans. I stopped eating meat for ethical and health reasons and I cringe when I think of how animals are treated but that doesn't mean we should forget the humans (migrants, food workers and poverty stricken families who can only afford what is local around them which might happen to be beef and chicken from the bodega). I had an issue with Forks over Knives when they used the example of people in Poland during WW2 have a massive decrease in deaths from heart attacks and heart disease because the german soldiers stole all their meat and dairy. Butteruuummmmm, that was probably because deaths from starvation rose, their Jewish doctors were taken to be killed so no one was taking health records, most of the people were killed prior to having a chance at heart disease. I just wish my fellow vegans could find a better way to pass on this great vegan knowledge.
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I appreciate your perspective on this documentary. Your critique definitely makes me think about how this information was presented, the research and implications of the lifestyle it is trying to promote etc. Well done Ev.
I'm vegan and I didn't like the documentary (or his other documentary Cowspiracy), ESPECIALLY how he rushes into questions NOBODY was prepared for in interviews/over the phone...that's not how the world works buddy. However when it comes to the human cost, think about the workers in factory farms. It's common for undocumented immigrants to be hired and they work in horrible conditions. On top of that they have to slaughter animals non stop all day which probably has negative psychological effects. It's no surprise there's torture to animals on these farms - I've seen footage of workers calling the animal a bitch or cunt while beating her. You're right about plant based and vegan being 2 different things. As a vegan, I try my best to not contribute to the exploitation of animals including humans. On a side note Evelyn - I'm Muslim, and there's mass-production of halal meat as well so there's no difference. :)
Exactly. So many people don't realize that just because meat is mass-produced and machines are involved doesn't mean human beings aren't also exploited by that system. The factory workers often deal with terrible conditions that also impede on their health.
You made so good points but In the USA meat factory farms pay well and don't hire undocumented immigrants. I'm sure many would if they could but meat has more regulations and is more time sensitive so humans benefit financially and they are treated as well as any average job. A whole small town's economy's would collapse if some of these meat factory farms didn't exist.
Rainbow Redwood while I'm sure there are some meat factories that pay well, there are many, many who do not and exploit workers, farmers and distributors. Precisely because it is not regulated properly. This is well documented. Agri-business lobbying is incredibly old and entrenched and the USDA was founded to protect farmers during the dust bowl era and great depression when they were struggling immensely, but after they recovered those subsidies never went away which allows these industries to have great power in our national government. The USDA was later tasked with regulating our food-after being tasked with promoting corn, meat and dairy farms. And the same small towns and the people who's economies rely on these industries are also the people most vulnerable to the damage they do and is not an excuse to stop progressing. The coal mining industry is a good example of that too, because so many people's health and environment is compromised by the same industry that employs them. Fearing a loss of jobs doesn't excuse us from progressing when progress can also provide more jobs. I think we should have a healthy critique of food production, plants included, but we cannot delude ourselves into believing that the meat industry is okay as it is or doesn't exploit migrant workers amongst other ethical violations.
Good points! Just a comment about Halal meat - while there definitely are companies like Midamar and As-Salaam and others who mass produce their packaged meat, usually the local halal butchers can tell you exactly where their meat distributors are and if they're relatively local (within 5 or so hours driving distance), you're probably not dealing with a mass produced distribution of fresh meat. And also, if you're a stickler about getting hand-cut/zabihah halal meat (which my family is), it's very difficult to mass produce that on the level of large companies so again, it's really about your local halal meat access and distributor. I agree that there's a huge human cost in meat/dairy farm industry overall, but also in the plant industry that many vegans don't address (that I've seen). Buying locally grown produce and buying/eating only produce that's in season in your region is a huge part of making a basic diet sustainable for the world in terms of land cultivation and worker's rights/abuse (whether you decide to go vegan or not), and it's something I wish both vegans and non-vegans addressed more. So yeah, that's my two cents that ended up being longer than I thought lol.
Evelyn I love you review of WTH! I am vegan and made a descision to start a plant based diet before the documentary was so popular. There was def some good info and a lot of shock value and I can see how that put some people off. I love how you stated your opinion without completely trashing it and being pretentious, like a lot of other people who have reviewed it. I really enjoyed your review on this. Thanks for keepin it real. ❤
I'm here for this review!! All these pple on my fb going vegan like u never knew how meat got from the farm to ur supermarket?? Really?? And he does not speak on gmo enhanced plants like tomatoes are not supposed to be larger than my fist naturally. No talk about pesticides used on plants. Or how we get these plants in our stores even when they aren't in season. No talk on how plants are kept fresh when they come from the other side of the world. But lets eat plants only right?? Documentaries are not always facts, just a small amount of facts mixed with a lot of opinion presented in a way to look like fact.
Of you actually look it up, GMO isn't dangerous and farmers doesn't have to use pesticides on them. Even if you eat meet your still gonna eat veggies so it's not really a good argument as to not go vegan. Have you made any research on the horrible conditions slaughter houses are for both animals and workers?
Fredlyn Joseph dont be fooled by the anti gmo scare hype train. Gmos are just apart of agriculture and are what allow us to use less pesticides, have bigger yields, and every almost every vegetable all year round.
juniawall i am not worried about GMO's I actually understand how we got here with GMO's. I was simply stating that nothing about the agriculture industry was mentioned.
And as she said, there are ways to get meat and poultry that avoid the horrible methods of mass production, such as halal and I would also include local sources where the farm is smaller and the conditions less horrendous for the animals.
finally someone who said it!!!! I got so mad when watching that documentary AND IM VEGAN lol. No but I completely agree the documentary was way too aggressive and didnt bring up the true issues and the pros and CONS of being vegan or transitioning to a plant based diet. You always say it best. Keep it coming
I didn't watch it. Thank you for being my proxy and confirming every thought I had about it. If people would consult a real nutritionist, that alone would set folks straight. Smh. So glad I had classes with one a few years ago. But the 🌴🌳🌲 on the oreo diet... 😂😂😂😂 You bring all the joy sis. Best 2 star review!
Wouldnt it be great if rooftop and patio gardens were popularized here in the states the way it has been in other countries? That way we wouldnt be entirely dependent on mass produced crops and we would have a deeper connection to our food, our bodies, and the earth and it's seasons.
I tried watching this documentary because everyone was talking about it, but when the guy literally equated eating meat to be just as bad as smoking cigarettes like 5 minutes in, I literally clicked out of my netflix window and was like nope.
Well said, Evelyn! I ended up switching partially bc of the "documentary" but also because I have lupus erythematosus where a lot of animal products tend to aggravate my muscle inflammation and thus my rheumatoid arthitis. I'd happily switch back to eating animal products as long as I can afford for them to be ethically and, preferably, locally sourced. Until then, I'll keep to eating plant-based.
I have been vegan for almost two months and I feel like people think that vegans don't do their research. I did and I have never had more energy in my life, my skin is clearer and overall I feel better. Also I follow multiple black vegan Facebook groups where people share their testimonials and I frequently see people who have lost a significant amounts of weight, people who have been able to come off their meds, blood sugar and blood pressure have gone to normal ranges, I'm just saying it more than what the documentary proves 🌱🤷🏽♀️
My issue with this documentary is, "who exactly is the target audience?" A lot of the world survives on a plant-based diet compared to Americans. Will it be beneficial for Americans to go vegan? YES. However, when you start unpacking the issues surrounding that, you get into grey areas. 1. Poverty - Yes, this pesky old thing! It's a reality for many in the U.S. Someone who earns $8 an hour cannot realistically afford a vegan diet. Also, someone who works 3 jobs cannot possibly have the time to worry about cooking vegan meals. 2. Food education - Growing up in Nigeria, it was important for us to know the nutritional value of every food on our plates. We were hyper-aware of what diseases we could get if we lacked a particular nutrient. I knew that I could get scurvy if I lacked Vitamin C, bad eyesight for lack of Vitamin A, Beri-Beri for Vitamin B etc. I've found that a lot of Americans are completely unaware of these kinds of things. As a result, many do not eat a balanced diet. So, I feel that the talk of veganism is so premature because majority lack a basic understanding of food. In addition, many Americans are removed from the process of food procurement. As a result of urban living, how food is derived is lost on many. I once served Nigerian Fish Pepper Soup at a dinner and people were horrified to learn that fish has bones! When you lose a relationship with the earth, it's easy to call a McDonald's burger food. 3. Food deserts - These are areas where people do not have access to fresh produce. Basically, there are no grocery stores or farms near these areas. This is the result of poverty. Many cultures have eaten high carb, low fat diets for centuries. The U.S consumes more meat than any other country in the world at 120 KG per person. So if you can, eat more whole grains (oats & rice if you can't afford quinoa), legumes (beans, chickpeas, peas, peanuts, lentils, soybeans), cheap fruits like (apples, tomatoes, bananas, plantains, or frozen fruit), cheap veggies (cucumber, okra, spinach, corn, potatoes, broccoli). You can eat healthy without going vegan. Just ask the rest of the world!
1. Just as you actually HAVE to cook meat (because there so much bad bacteria in them) you can decide to cook vegan food too, but to be honest, beans or chickpeas doesn't have to be cooked so it's actually not really a problem. Also, meat is really expensive so in poverty areas people don't actually have the luxury to buy and eat meat. 2. Weird that a lot of people who eat meat think that spaghetti and meatballs is gonna cover every vitamin/nutrition. Vegans know what goes in their bodies, they're also aware on what they lack and needs to incorporate in their diet. 3. And just to make thinks clear, people mostly go vegan because they don't want to see innocent animals being killed because of lame excuses. But I do agree that people have to eat more greens and such. It's good for the body, environment, (and cutting out meat) animals.
Netty YASSS! My skin thrives in Lagos! I only moved to the US for college and I've now been here for 4 years. In my freshman year, I ate solely from the school cafeteria. There was pizza, fries, quesadillas, bread, pasta etc. and a salad bar at the end of the hall. Obviously, most people had filled up their trays before even reaching the salad bar. This was how I ate for a whole year. That year I had stomach and skin issues! By sophomore year, I moved into a dorm with a kitchen and I went back to cooking what I ate in Lagos. Basically, I stopped playing myself!
Evelyn looks SUPER gorgeous in that video 😍 I haven't watch the documentary but I don't like when people use human weaknesses to make a point. I prefer pragmatic arguments with a realistic feasible plan to implement this. How to transition from where we are now to where we want to go individually, as a society and worldwide? The answer to this question is what I want to see in a documentary, instead of acting like people are stupid and manipulate them.
I've been vegetarian for a little over 6 months now. I decided to go with diet before I saw "What the Health". I found this documentary to be hilarious and informative. Because if this video I assure you I will never eat pork again. But I also agree with what you are saying about him calling the organizations and not showing enough about about the plant based diet. Since being a vegetarian the only mean that I miss is chicken but I haven't decided if I will return or not. Thank you for your review.
been vegan for 3 years and have never felt better. You can find fun recipes on the youtube channel "hot for food" 😁 wasn't a fan about the shock value of the film but it did open my eyes about these heart/ diabetes/ cancer societies. they do need to discuss more about prevention and not push meals based on who their sponsors are
I am suspicious of anyone claiming to have THE diet to solve all issues. There are always downsides. Plus, it's all edited. We only saw what he wanted us to see. I'm willing to bet that they found some people who proved him wrong, but of course they wouldn't put that in the final cut.
I watched the movie in August and I felt it was one sided. I did change my diet for 2 weeks where I removed meat. I felt good taking a break and adding more veggies in my diet. I'm thinking of maybe doing that type some days out the month. Thank best thing I fixed was veggie baked spaghetti. I used some veggie noodles which turned out good. Great video.
I definitely changed my diet after watching the movie but I'm not just strictly plant based. I do try to stay away from processed foods more now than before the movie.
After watching the documentary I did not go vegan, but I did cut back on my meat consumption. I no longer eat meat every day. However, I do agree with you about his calls to those health/cancer research organizations. He was acting like it was some grand revelation that receptionists (probably) couldn't answer his technical questions.
The world can sustain the population living off of plants. A huge amount of grain goes to just feeding animals. When we could just give that to people.
I agree I'm only 15 and been thinking about going vegan or at least vegetarian when I'm 17 (where I have a job and omw to college) I only eat seafood meat and sometimes chicken but I don't eat it everyday this is somewhat moderate (I say about once a week or 2) but I eat mostly of a healthy maintained diet with more fruits and vegetables but I'm going to watch this documentary tonight and come back with my opinion 😊👍👍
I personally enjoyed the documentary. A lot of the points you were looking for were actually already covered in the previous Documentary he did called "Cowspiracy". Thats why I feel they choose not to re-cap on a lot of those points. As a Vegan, my viewpoint on it is different than yours and I respect that. Sorry in advanced if anyone "'comes for you" but not all of us are like that. Im just happy to you are opened minded to eating meals that don't contain animal products and you actually know the difference between "plant-based" and "Vegan". Yay! Have a great day love!
Nice review. I haven't seen or heard of the movie nor would I have gone to see it or even watched it for free. U confirmed what I figured all these food fad conspiracy movies have always been about
Naturally Curly knew only the Internet's favorite cousin could handle a review featuring that shady documentary and that cancelled hair brand and still be well received. Good play Naturally Curly, good play.
Im vegetarian but i also am a competitive athlete. I usually maintain a consistent weight throughout the season but in less that 5 months i dropped 4 pounds. Which is healthy but not great for my performance. So my advice, go vegetarian/vegan if you want but be EXTREMELY careful about how much you eat. Make sure you're getting enough. You have to eat more if you're not eating the meats and dairy.
Evelyn!!!! I'm Vegan, I have been for 2.75 years now (😜) and I completely agreed with your review. I was taken back with the directors approach to finding answers!! This movie is NOT gonna convince people to go vegan. He did another film called, Cowspiracy, and it's really similar and WAAAAY better. Also, to find delicious vegan recipes, "1000 Vegan Recipes" is really good cook book, and "But I Could Never Go Vegan" cook book is helpful, a little complex, but still good!! Love ya!!
CW: graphic deaths described in point (d) Often times these extreme vegan propaganda forget that a) veganism isn't new, most African and Asian cultures practiced vegetarianism early on, avoiding eggs, milk and honey does not make it trendy or superior b) organic vegan farms require as much land if not more than livestock, due to lower yields thanks to lack of pesticides and fertilizer c) just because your veggies are "made in the USA" or other developed countries does NOT mean it's ethically farmed, often times these are farmed with slave labour conditions, poor Asian/Latinx people work 20+ hours a day with little or no pee breaks. d) shock value isn't necessarily a bad thing, especially if it's true, for instance, a North Korean defector recalls seeing a family member or friend die of starvation before their eyes, flies begin gathering on their orifices or watching a mother eat her own dead child in a labour camp. Making children munch on cigarettes is a stupid metaphor to claim that eggs are as dangerous as them, which is far from the truth. e) if you live in LA, it's obviously an easier place to source raw organic gluten free vegan meals, that includes shopping for ingredients that fit the bill. But what about a family that earns less than $300 a month in Malaysia (my home)? Sure farms literally grow kangkung in drains but how many sources could we find here that is affordable, accessible, ethical AND vegan? I live near an egg farm and it's not only accessible to us, it's of extremely good quality and meets our protein needs. But everything else like tomatoes, potatoes, carrots, etc has to be imported, thus costs a lot more than our eggs, especially if one expects us to go both vegan and organic. f) please don't see this comment as an attack on veganism as a whole, just don't treat others the way extreme atheists treat people who pray, if you can access and afford a vegan diet, more power to you. Meat and animal products are still essential to many people, thus the reason there are charities that dedicate themselves to sending goats, chickens and even bees to developing countries, so they can support themselves and feed their family. You cannot just send them seeds and expect them to yield anything as plenty of vegetables grow in specific conditions.
No one ever said veganism was new or tried to pass it off as such. But most people do feel superior and rightfully so Sources? Even if that's true they're not causing nearly as much damage to the planet. You dont necessarily need to live the vegan life style. Even reducing meat consumption is good enough. The cheapest foods happen to be vegan. Beans, rice, lentils, carrots, greens and hundreds of veggies that you can literally make yourself in a garden. You don't need raw organic gluten free shit. Veganism isn't a luxury as many people think. Poor countries are understandable. They can't function like the rest of us. But capable people in capable countries who eat animals doesn't even make sense.
I was waiting on you to make a review. People eat Quinoa like crazy now but is the country where it originates really gets their fare share?? Also I pray you are safe in Texas Evelyn!!
I enjoyed What the Health. With that being said, I had already planned on changing my diet to Plant Based. So I had already done the research and things of that sort. I do agree tho, he doesn't fully explain what places to go to, what should you eat instead of blazay blezay, what do these grains come from? Things of that sort. And of course Sir, you aren't about to get a full fledge explanation by someone in customer service they like "UM I'M JUST TRYNA GET PAID DUDE IDK IDK" but I do enjoy what it provided for me. 😬
No you didn't call those oreo vegans out 💀 This docu is going to get the pass from me. My diet is similar, plant based with some meat here and there ("condimeat"). My issue is more with grains like wheat and corn, and those are the foods that make us more susceptible to diabetes, not meat lololol The fact he said fat is the reason has me on the floor.
Shaz123 my college nutrition book, but you can google peer reviewed articles. Basically it relates to insulin sensitivity and resistance due to carbs (mostly simple carbs without fiber). Americans eat a lot of processed carbs (wheat and corn products) and sugars, so it increases our chances of ill health.
Aren't processed carbs actually things like white bread and white rice? I'm not trying to shade you at all btw lol. I am genuinely concerned and interested.
I actually loved the doc. I started going vegan because what the hell it can only help right? Been doing it for a month now and I do feel better about my choices. It's a long road to full vegan for me but one step at a time works.
You should watch 'In Defense of Food' too. I liked this documentary more. Michael Pollan's perspective is a lot more balanced and objective. If you're someone that needs facts and data, watch Forks Over Knives. It's not as entertaining but it really does explain everything thoroughly
Personally eating like beans and rice and potatoes are a lot cheaper than buying meat and as someone who's pinching every last penny I can understand that it's just hella cheaper to go and eat a fast food hamburger bc they're like 99 cents but buying a big thing of rice at Costco and some soy sauce will sustain you a lot longer than one hamburger
I couldn't get far in the doc until I turned it off. It felt like so many things was skewed misinformation or more opinion-based more than fact-based even when the doctor was talking
Can Ev review everything? Current events? Master theses? My credit score? Please 😩🙏🏾
Ebony Hagans-Greene my credit score lmao 😂😂😂😭😭😭💀💀
"my credit score" i'm SCREAMING
Ebony Hagans-Greene she can rate my broke ass bank account
🌾👀🌾you put it so nicely.
Jouelzy LOL! They came for you insulting your intelligence and everything! I did not think your review was harsh, but those comments!
Yes Evelyn! I love that you brought up the human costs of a plant based diet. With our political climate in the U.S. right now it is so important to talk about farm workers and immigrant workers rights. Harvesting plants is so labor intensive and these folks get paid substandard wages for back breaking work.
We watched the documentary Food Chains in my Community Organizing class in grad school. It touched on this.
greengurlg7 Yeah, that tidbit of her review was extremely insightful. Of all the reviews I've heard from people, she's the first person to bring up the human labor costs -- something I never even thought about.
greengurlg7 So what do you think the animals eat? Most crops grown are fed to farm animals so none vegans are doing at least double the harm and damage right from the outset.
most animals in the US are fed a diet of wheat, corn, soy that is are most produced crops and those crops are part of a large mechanized farming structure, that I already knew.And those crops are larger subsidized by the government. so the human costs of those crops if very little, in terms of picking those crops . . . . so whats your point there? in terms of human costs and labor?
My issue with a lot of these documentaries is they essentially try to shock-value and guilt you in to changing a massive part of your life (how you eat aka survive), yet make you feel like a failure if you can't ascribe to their position 100%. Ultimately, that puts a lot of people off and makes their efforts less effective. The most recent major change to my life is going towards zero waste (trying to reduce the waste you produce as much as possible). I did this not because of all the landfill pictures I saw, not because of any videos of habitats destroyed, but of UA-camrs sharing how they want to do their bit to make the world a slightly better place. Shopping zero waste means avoiding processed food (as they are in packages), and shopping at farmers markets/co-ops, which results in a by-product of a healthier diet. I have made this change and I love it, and part of it is being OK when you throw something in the trash. It's a process, which the channels I follow always talk about. This documentary, there is no way you can come away from it with a positive feeling, and so it will not be as effective as it could be.
Gretchen Gustafson it's the same as with these white privileged vegans that ARE ABLE to live this EXPENSIVE lifestyle and then try to shame if POC can't afford it but won't help them either, for example they could plant organic veggies n fruits but they chose to shame ('poor') meat eaters.
Vegan living is not expensive and most of the vegans/vegetarians in the US are actually black and brown people not white people. The raw food lifestyle is not practical and is very expensive to try to maintain. The Urban Black Vegan on UA-cam is really cool and informative, The Vegan Couple, and many other channels have researched and dived into the topic of cheap, healthy eating. Buying meat is actually far more expensive than buying rice and beans so being "poor" is not an excuse. Tons of poor people are vegan.
sexest falsus veganism is actually pretty cheap... cheaper than eating meat and fish for many people
sexest falsus Girl I feel you. Right after I graduated from college I had two jobs and was literally working 8am-1am almost every day. I lived on pre-packaged and frozen foods, since I barely had time to see any friends let alone spend 2hrs cooking and cleaning up the mess I made (what I did yesterday). I just didn't see a way to get any fresh food in to my diet consistently, let alone an actually balanced diet. The best book I found for that (where the food actually tastes good) is "Twenty-Dollar, Twenty-Minute Meals" by Caroline Wright. It's not about doing it daily, just as you can :)
leo licht veld. What you just said is a load of nonsense. Humans sweat because the body over heats. In Europe deodorant isn't that common because the weather is cool. Nothing to do with diet.
That head scarf and glasses combo 😍
thejennikiz yas I know right
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i'm originally from the Caribbean and because most of our economy is dependent on bananas and arrowroot, not much else is grown and A LOT of the produce and items in the grocery stores are imported. Recently, my mother was shocked that she had to pay the equivalent of $6.50 American dollars for a pack of head of romaine lettuce.
so i definitely agree that we should be cautious in saying that everyone should change to a vegan diet because we are PRIVILEGED here in North America. We often forget to think what an impact our desire for fresh fruits and vegetables all day everyday has on the source country and their people.
semi sana right
ok but the reality is the majority of people in the US can go vegan and most would save money doing so, if not initially in food costs, later in medical costs
that's possibly true.
but my point is to not focus on the U.S., but rather to think of what the effect is on the places and people who are the source of a lot of the food that a healthy and nutritionally balanced vegan diet would require. The food might be affordable to people in the U.S., but back in the source country, the cost of living ends up being high.
The example i gave of $6.50 for lettuce is from St Vincent, an island in the Caribbean. The minimum wage there for an agricultural worker is about 15 US dollars per day. So imagine how hard it is to afford imported products, even though most things are imported because the majority of the land is used for only 2 produce.
the future is locally grown food......you can easily find food grown in the US and when more people start to buy this food and sales go up more will be produced locally. It is supply and demand. I don't think it is something to worry about now...it is definitely not a reason to not go vegan.....it may be something vegans can worry about
I'm so happy you brought up human labor. But let's also keep in mind the amount of plants (mainly corn) that go just for livestock. The amount of land the is dedicated to slaughtering and processing animal meat + the food the animals eat before death is huge. And surpasses the land used to produce plant yields, for humans.
If you want to watch a good documentary that doesn't feel like propaganda watch, "Feel Rich: Health is the New Wealth". It's on Netflix and is about the plant based diet that is starting in the hip-hop community. Best documentary on food and health I've watched so far. Plus it has Uncle Russ and Common in it sharing their knowledge, and many other hip-hop musicians.
I have Netflix. I'll check it out, too! Thanks.
Sarah Rose Thanks for the recommendation
I hate when people read two three articles then think they are a PhD. Like you don't know what you're talking about.
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I definitely agree with the handling of info in this documentary. Although I'm a vegetarian (and have been for many years) and I agreed with alot of the info, there was something about this documentary that made it feel like propaganda.. IDK, maybe it was the way he "confronted" the organizations....However, there was some good info to be taken away from it as a whole. P.S. love the glasses and scarf!
It feels as if they trying to shame people into it. And that’s how people end up with unhealthy eating habits
Why do I feel like Evelyn throws low key shade when she reads those shea moisture labels... I see you
Anie Black lol these product names are creative and long as hell though
She saw that triflin video they did, buttttt they are sponsors, so....🤷🏾♀️
Evelyn is such an inspiration. I first liked her just because she was funny, but I love her ability to really think critically too. Smart and funny!
I like that you mentioned sustainability. It does have to come from somewhere and it is easy for crops to be messed up with a hard rain. So, then what do you have? Do companies find a way to "mass produce" the foods that are plant based... just gets the mind running.
There is also a bias of income. Lower social economical homies can't afford "quinoa." Healthy... well, organic, as there were pushing is expensive. For $7 you can buy a bag of quinoa that serves 4, once... or 10+ chicken wings, a bag/box of rice, and maybe some frozen veggies. If one is budgeting for a family... you may spend that $7 on $0.50 pizzas and really stretch that money. Yes there are places that have bazaars and community gardens... but if they don't. And you can't afford extra travel? It was a very privileged -based, documentary.
C2EAKali THIS!!
But then these privileged vegans shame meat eaters for that without looking deeper into the 'cause' of eating meat.
C2EAKali i will agree, organic is expensive so i'm not to picky with that, but i went pescatarian 3 years ago and i will say, at first it was expensive trying to eat well. Over time tho i did figure out how to make it work, while on a budget. Costco and Aldi are great places to shop & if you or family is military, the Commissary can be a good option as well.
got a 4.5lb bag of quinoa for $17 at costco 😜(40-50 servings)
I honestly wish I could double like this... There are literally hoods in my city that just got grocery stores that actually sell produce within the last 5 years. Some still have none and rely on gas stations and corner stores for grocery shopping.
I hate that no one ever addresses how expensive places like Trader Joe's and Whole Foods are...I legit cannot afford to doing the bulk of my shopping there to eat as organically as these documentaries suggest. I do love farmers markets tho lol
Meena m Trader Joe's actually has prices that are lower than its competitors. But you're right about Whole Foods and even local fruit and vegetables markets, they have crazy high prices
Honestly the dramatic-ass music at the beginning with beige folk talking over it had me immediately like "issa no for me" and I'm vegetarian smh.
Evelyn's hair is getting so long!
Lol she really not Finna know how to act
i'm 16 and ive been vegan for almost 3 years now, its made my life even better, i feel better and i know that i'm helping the environment and animals even just a little bit. its not even a diet choice anymore, its just my ethical lifestyle. all i can do is encourage and help others who want to know more and are open to veganism, rather than scolding people for what they don't know. ☺️💖
I'm loving your headwrap, lipstick and glasses!
This is why I love you!!!!! You said everything i have been saying and more. Before anyone attacks me, I am a transitioning vegan and have not eaten meat in over a year and a half.
Girllllll!!!! Some of these vegans kill me with their ethical causes for animals but ignoring everyday humans. I stopped eating meat for ethical and health reasons and I cringe when I think of how animals are treated but that doesn't mean we should forget the humans (migrants, food workers and poverty stricken families who can only afford what is local around them which might happen to be beef and chicken from the bodega).
I had an issue with Forks over Knives when they used the example of people in Poland during WW2 have a massive decrease in deaths from heart attacks and heart disease because the german soldiers stole all their meat and dairy. Butteruuummmmm, that was probably because deaths from starvation rose, their Jewish doctors were taken to be killed so no one was taking health records, most of the people were killed prior to having a chance at heart disease.
I just wish my fellow vegans could find a better way to pass on this great vegan knowledge.
Watch an Go is the the most original and creative UA-cam Show. I love that you ladies are completely different and appealing to a variety of cultures. I love your style ladies. Please keep it up!!
For recipes SweetPotatoeSoul Waffles/sweet potato pie/Gumbo/Red Beans and Rice/Chili etc. (LOWER BLOOD PRESSURE) Just saying.
Evelyn I agree 100% with you. And you're glowing in this video, skin all radiant and shit.🙌🏾✨
I appreciate your perspective on this documentary. Your critique definitely makes me think about how this information was presented, the research and implications of the lifestyle it is trying to promote etc. Well done Ev.
Evelyn!!! I haven't watched yet, I had to pause to let you know your complexion is giving me Life! Elbows hydrated and edges flourishing 👏👏👏
I'm vegan and I didn't like the documentary (or his other documentary Cowspiracy), ESPECIALLY how he rushes into questions NOBODY was prepared for in interviews/over the phone...that's not how the world works buddy.
However when it comes to the human cost, think about the workers in factory farms. It's common for undocumented immigrants to be hired and they work in horrible conditions. On top of that they have to slaughter animals non stop all day which probably has negative psychological effects. It's no surprise there's torture to animals on these farms - I've seen footage of workers calling the animal a bitch or cunt while beating her.
You're right about plant based and vegan being 2 different things. As a vegan, I try my best to not contribute to the exploitation of animals including humans.
On a side note Evelyn - I'm Muslim, and there's mass-production of halal meat as well so there's no difference. :)
Exactly. So many people don't realize that just because meat is mass-produced and machines are involved doesn't mean human beings aren't also exploited by that system. The factory workers often deal with terrible conditions that also impede on their health.
posilucky holy shit...i didn't even think about the psychological effects of having to slaughter animals. That just fucked me up
You made so good points but In the USA meat factory farms pay well and don't hire undocumented immigrants. I'm sure many would if they could but meat has more regulations and is more time sensitive so humans benefit financially and they are treated as well as any average job.
A whole small town's economy's would collapse if some of these meat factory farms didn't exist.
Rainbow Redwood while I'm sure there are some meat factories that pay well, there are many, many who do not and exploit workers, farmers and distributors. Precisely because it is not regulated properly. This is well documented. Agri-business lobbying is incredibly old and entrenched and the USDA was founded to protect farmers during the dust bowl era and great depression when they were struggling immensely, but after they recovered those subsidies never went away which allows these industries to have great power in our national government. The USDA was later tasked with regulating our food-after being tasked with promoting corn, meat and dairy farms. And the same small towns and the people who's economies rely on these industries are also the people most vulnerable to the damage they do and is not an excuse to stop progressing. The coal mining industry is a good example of that too, because so many people's health and environment is compromised by the same industry that employs them. Fearing a loss of jobs doesn't excuse us from progressing when progress can also provide more jobs. I think we should have a healthy critique of food production, plants included, but we cannot delude ourselves into believing that the meat industry is okay as it is or doesn't exploit migrant workers amongst other ethical violations.
Good points! Just a comment about Halal meat - while there definitely are companies like Midamar and As-Salaam and others who mass produce their packaged meat, usually the local halal butchers can tell you exactly where their meat distributors are and if they're relatively local (within 5 or so hours driving distance), you're probably not dealing with a mass produced distribution of fresh meat. And also, if you're a stickler about getting hand-cut/zabihah halal meat (which my family is), it's very difficult to mass produce that on the level of large companies so again, it's really about your local halal meat access and distributor.
I agree that there's a huge human cost in meat/dairy farm industry overall, but also in the plant industry that many vegans don't address (that I've seen). Buying locally grown produce and buying/eating only produce that's in season in your region is a huge part of making a basic diet sustainable for the world in terms of land cultivation and worker's rights/abuse (whether you decide to go vegan or not), and it's something I wish both vegans and non-vegans addressed more. So yeah, that's my two cents that ended up being longer than I thought lol.
I'm dead that you @'d the Oreo diet
Unapologetically Bria Bea where?
leo lichtveld I know a lot of musty vegans just saying.
leo lichtveld I don’t think you can be vegan and eat McDonald’s but okay, I know people who are on raw vegan diets and they still stink.
This was so well put. This is why I love her! 😂
Evelyn I love you review of WTH! I am vegan and made a descision to start a plant based diet before the documentary was so popular. There was def some good info and a lot of shock value and I can see how that put some people off. I love how you stated your opinion without completely trashing it and being pretentious, like a lot of other people who have reviewed it. I really enjoyed your review on this. Thanks for keepin it real. ❤
I'm here for this review!! All these pple on my fb going vegan like u never knew how meat got from the farm to ur supermarket?? Really?? And he does not speak on gmo enhanced plants like tomatoes are not supposed to be larger than my fist naturally. No talk about pesticides used on plants. Or how we get these plants in our stores even when they aren't in season. No talk on how plants are kept fresh when they come from the other side of the world. But lets eat plants only right?? Documentaries are not always facts, just a small amount of facts mixed with a lot of opinion presented in a way to look like fact.
Fredlyn Joseph This ^^^
Of you actually look it up, GMO isn't dangerous and farmers doesn't have to use pesticides on them. Even if you eat meet your still gonna eat veggies so it's not really a good argument as to not go vegan. Have you made any research on the horrible conditions slaughter houses are for both animals and workers?
Fredlyn Joseph dont be fooled by the anti gmo scare hype train. Gmos are just apart of agriculture and are what allow us to use less pesticides, have bigger yields, and every almost every vegetable all year round.
juniawall i am not worried about GMO's I actually understand how we got here with GMO's. I was simply stating that nothing about the agriculture industry was mentioned.
And as she said, there are ways to get meat and poultry that avoid the horrible methods of mass production, such as halal and I would also include local sources where the farm is smaller and the conditions less horrendous for the animals.
finally someone who said it!!!! I got so mad when watching that documentary AND IM VEGAN lol. No but I completely agree the documentary was way too aggressive and didnt bring up the true issues and the pros and CONS of being vegan or transitioning to a plant based diet. You always say it best. Keep it coming
I didn't watch it. Thank you for being my proxy and confirming every thought I had about it. If people would consult a real nutritionist, that alone would set folks straight. Smh. So glad I had classes with one a few years ago. But the 🌴🌳🌲 on the oreo diet... 😂😂😂😂 You bring all the joy sis. Best 2 star review!
Wouldnt it be great if rooftop and patio gardens were popularized here in the states the way it has been in other countries? That way we wouldnt be entirely dependent on mass produced crops and we would have a deeper connection to our food, our bodies, and the earth and it's seasons.
Sees it's Evelyn, automatically gives thumbs up..... now let me go watch the video
I'm so glad I stumbled on this youtube channel you ladies are awesome keep up the good work
I tried watching this documentary because everyone was talking about it, but when the guy literally equated eating meat to be just as bad as smoking cigarettes like 5 minutes in, I literally clicked out of my netflix window and was like nope.
Well said, Evelyn! I ended up switching partially bc of the "documentary" but also because I have lupus erythematosus where a lot of animal products tend to aggravate my muscle inflammation and thus my rheumatoid arthitis. I'd happily switch back to eating animal products as long as I can afford for them to be ethically and, preferably, locally sourced. Until then, I'll keep to eating plant-based.
This review was just all yesssss, yassss. Everything i felt and thought, you nailed it
I have been vegan for almost two months and I feel like people think that vegans don't do their research. I did and I have never had more energy in my life, my skin is clearer and overall I feel better. Also I follow multiple black vegan Facebook groups where people share their testimonials and I frequently see people who have lost a significant amounts of weight, people who have been able to come off their meds, blood sugar and blood pressure have gone to normal ranges, I'm just saying it more than what the documentary proves 🌱🤷🏽♀️
🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼 the best review of this "film" that I've seen!
My issue with this documentary is, "who exactly is the target audience?" A lot of the world survives on a plant-based diet compared to Americans. Will it be beneficial for Americans to go vegan? YES. However, when you start unpacking the issues surrounding that, you get into grey areas.
1. Poverty - Yes, this pesky old thing! It's a reality for many in the U.S. Someone who earns $8 an hour cannot realistically afford a vegan diet. Also, someone who works 3 jobs cannot possibly have the time to worry about cooking vegan meals.
2. Food education - Growing up in Nigeria, it was important for us to know the nutritional value of every food on our plates. We were hyper-aware of what diseases we could get if we lacked a particular nutrient. I knew that I could get scurvy if I lacked Vitamin C, bad eyesight for lack of Vitamin A, Beri-Beri for Vitamin B etc. I've found that a lot of Americans are completely unaware of these kinds of things. As a result, many do not eat a balanced diet. So, I feel that the talk of veganism is so premature because majority lack a basic understanding of food.
In addition, many Americans are removed from the process of food procurement. As a result of urban living, how food is derived is lost on many. I once served Nigerian Fish Pepper Soup at a dinner and people were horrified to learn that fish has bones! When you lose a relationship with the earth, it's easy to call a McDonald's burger food.
3. Food deserts - These are areas where people do not have access to fresh produce. Basically, there are no grocery stores or farms near these areas. This is the result of poverty.
Many cultures have eaten high carb, low fat diets for centuries. The U.S consumes more meat than any other country in the world at 120 KG per person. So if you can, eat more whole grains (oats & rice if you can't afford quinoa), legumes (beans, chickpeas, peas, peanuts, lentils, soybeans), cheap fruits like (apples, tomatoes, bananas, plantains, or frozen fruit), cheap veggies (cucumber, okra, spinach, corn, potatoes, broccoli). You can eat healthy without going vegan. Just ask the rest of the world!
1. Just as you actually HAVE to cook meat (because there so much bad bacteria in them) you can decide to cook vegan food too, but to be honest, beans or chickpeas doesn't have to be cooked so it's actually not really a problem. Also, meat is really expensive so in poverty areas people don't actually have the luxury to buy and eat meat.
2. Weird that a lot of people who eat meat think that spaghetti and meatballs is gonna cover every vitamin/nutrition. Vegans know what goes in their bodies, they're also aware on what they lack and needs to incorporate in their diet.
3. And just to make thinks clear, people mostly go vegan because they don't want to see innocent animals being killed because of lame excuses.
But I do agree that people have to eat more greens and such. It's good for the body, environment, (and cutting out meat) animals.
Is this a direct reply to the points I addressed in my comment?
Netty YASSS! My skin thrives in Lagos! I only moved to the US for college and I've now been here for 4 years. In my freshman year, I ate solely from the school cafeteria. There was pizza, fries, quesadillas, bread, pasta etc. and a salad bar at the end of the hall. Obviously, most people had filled up their trays before even reaching the salad bar. This was how I ate for a whole year. That year I had stomach and skin issues! By sophomore year, I moved into a dorm with a kitchen and I went back to cooking what I ate in Lagos. Basically, I stopped playing myself!
"Rolling up on the receptionist." LOL. I hated that about him too. It was so crappy of him.
This review makes the most sense of all the ones I've seen.
Evelyn looks SUPER gorgeous in that video 😍 I haven't watch the documentary but I don't like when people use human weaknesses to make a point. I prefer pragmatic arguments with a realistic feasible plan to implement this. How to transition from where we are now to where we want to go individually, as a society and worldwide? The answer to this question is what I want to see in a documentary, instead of acting like people are stupid and manipulate them.
I've been vegetarian for a little over 6 months now. I decided to go with diet before I saw "What the Health". I found this documentary to be hilarious and informative. Because if this video I assure you I will never eat pork again. But I also agree with what you are saying about him calling the organizations and not showing enough about about the plant based diet. Since being a vegetarian the only mean that I miss is chicken but I haven't decided if I will return or not. Thank you for your review.
I love your honesty!!!
been vegan for 3 years and have never felt better. You can find fun recipes on the youtube channel "hot for food" 😁 wasn't a fan about the shock value of the film but it did open my eyes about these heart/ diabetes/ cancer societies. they do need to discuss more about prevention and not push meals based on who their sponsors are
We forgave shea moisture?
Those of us who never felt the need to dismiss a black company over one silly commercial.
Omgosh evelyn. I missed you man. Your lipstick is lovely and yoir overshirt thingy really suits you. Have a lovely day
"Sometimes you just gotta go to Waffle House" HAHAHHAHA
This video had me cracking up because everything you said is how I feel about the documentary.
I am suspicious of anyone claiming to have THE diet to solve all issues. There are always downsides.
Plus, it's all edited. We only saw what he wanted us to see. I'm willing to bet that they found some people who proved him wrong, but of course they wouldn't put that in the final cut.
This is why I LOVE Evelyn!!
I watched the movie in August and I felt it was one sided. I did change my diet for 2 weeks where I removed meat. I felt good taking a break and adding more veggies in my diet. I'm thinking of maybe doing that type some days out the month. Thank best thing I fixed was veggie baked spaghetti. I used some veggie noodles which turned out good. Great video.
I definitely changed my diet after watching the movie but I'm not just strictly plant based. I do try to stay away from processed foods more now than before the movie.
After watching the documentary I did not go vegan, but I did cut back on my meat consumption. I no longer eat meat every day. However, I do agree with you about his calls to those health/cancer research organizations. He was acting like it was some grand revelation that receptionists (probably) couldn't answer his technical questions.
Sees "Evelyn Reviews", instantly clicks
The world can sustain the population living off of plants. A huge amount of grain goes to just feeding animals. When we could just give that to people.
I agree I'm only 15 and been thinking about going vegan or at least vegetarian when I'm 17 (where I have a job and omw to college) I only eat seafood meat and sometimes chicken but I don't eat it everyday this is somewhat moderate (I say about once a week or 2) but I eat mostly of a healthy maintained diet with more fruits and vegetables but I'm going to watch this documentary tonight and come back with my opinion 😊👍👍
I personally enjoyed the documentary. A lot of the points you were looking for were actually already covered in the previous Documentary he did called "Cowspiracy". Thats why I feel they choose not to re-cap on a lot of those points. As a Vegan, my viewpoint on it is different than yours and I respect that. Sorry in advanced if anyone "'comes for you" but not all of us are like that. Im just happy to you are opened minded to eating meals that don't contain animal products and you actually know the difference between "plant-based" and "Vegan". Yay! Have a great day love!
Love & light to you Evelyn!
My grandma watched this and on FaceTime told me if I keep eating meat I'm speeding up my death 😂😂
Everyone needs a lil Evelyn in there life😂❤️
Nice review. I haven't seen or heard of the movie nor would I have gone to see it or even watched it for free. U confirmed what I figured all these food fad conspiracy movies have always been about
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Naturally Curly knew only the Internet's favorite cousin could handle a review featuring that shady documentary and that cancelled hair brand and still be well received. Good play Naturally Curly, good play.
Lindsey Burnside lol I was like so Shea moisture not cancelled anymore or? Well played indeed glad someone said something I was thinking lol
Stay buying shit from white companies yet still mad at Shea Moisture over ONE silly commercial. Lame.
I still haven't watched and not sure when I'm going to watch it. :/
Im vegetarian but i also am a competitive athlete. I usually maintain a consistent weight throughout the season but in less that 5 months i dropped 4 pounds. Which is healthy but not great for my performance. So my advice, go vegetarian/vegan if you want but be EXTREMELY careful about how much you eat. Make sure you're getting enough. You have to eat more if you're not eating the meats and dairy.
She is really adorable and really smart. 😍
I definitelyyyy agree with this review 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽
Evelyn I bought that shampoo bc of you and GIRL. Very nice, very nice. It's a muuuuust
Evelyn!!!! I'm Vegan, I have been for 2.75 years now (😜) and I completely agreed with your review. I was taken back with the directors approach to finding answers!! This movie is NOT gonna convince people to go vegan. He did another film called, Cowspiracy, and it's really similar and WAAAAY better. Also, to find delicious vegan recipes, "1000 Vegan Recipes" is really good cook book, and "But I Could Never Go Vegan" cook book is helpful, a little complex, but still good!! Love ya!!
we cut back on pork and beef. Due to family health no more milk for awhile.
I love the hair shake Evelyn!
CW: graphic deaths described in point (d)
Often times these extreme vegan propaganda forget that
a) veganism isn't new, most African and Asian cultures practiced vegetarianism early on, avoiding eggs, milk and honey does not make it trendy or superior
b) organic vegan farms require as much land if not more than livestock, due to lower yields thanks to lack of pesticides and fertilizer
c) just because your veggies are "made in the USA" or other developed countries does NOT mean it's ethically farmed, often times these are farmed with slave labour conditions, poor Asian/Latinx people work 20+ hours a day with little or no pee breaks.
d) shock value isn't necessarily a bad thing, especially if it's true, for instance, a North Korean defector recalls seeing a family member or friend die of starvation before their eyes, flies begin gathering on their orifices or watching a mother eat her own dead child in a labour camp. Making children munch on cigarettes is a stupid metaphor to claim that eggs are as dangerous as them, which is far from the truth.
e) if you live in LA, it's obviously an easier place to source raw organic gluten free vegan meals, that includes shopping for ingredients that fit the bill. But what about a family that earns less than $300 a month in Malaysia (my home)? Sure farms literally grow kangkung in drains but how many sources could we find here that is affordable, accessible, ethical AND vegan? I live near an egg farm and it's not only accessible to us, it's of extremely good quality and meets our protein needs. But everything else like tomatoes, potatoes, carrots, etc has to be imported, thus costs a lot more than our eggs, especially if one expects us to go both vegan and organic.
f) please don't see this comment as an attack on veganism as a whole, just don't treat others the way extreme atheists treat people who pray, if you can access and afford a vegan diet, more power to you. Meat and animal products are still essential to many people, thus the reason there are charities that dedicate themselves to sending goats, chickens and even bees to developing countries, so they can support themselves and feed their family. You cannot just send them seeds and expect them to yield anything as plenty of vegetables grow in specific conditions.
No one ever said veganism was new or tried to pass it off as such. But most people do feel superior and rightfully so
Sources? Even if that's true they're not causing nearly as much damage to the planet.
You dont necessarily need to live the vegan life style. Even reducing meat consumption is good enough. The cheapest foods happen to be vegan. Beans, rice, lentils, carrots, greens and hundreds of veggies that you can literally make yourself in a garden. You don't need raw organic gluten free shit. Veganism isn't a luxury as many people think. Poor countries are understandable. They can't function like the rest of us. But capable people in capable countries who eat animals doesn't even make sense.
Im loving this headwrap
I was waiting on you to make a review. People eat Quinoa like crazy now but is the country where it originates really gets their fare share?? Also I pray you are safe in Texas Evelyn!!
I see Evelyn, I tap play... plain and simple.
I only use shea Moisture for my hair, I have NICE curls 😂(all natural not iron)
I think I can certainly stand to eat more fruits & veggies. I definitely don't get enough.
I enjoyed What the Health. With that being said, I had already planned on changing my diet to Plant Based. So I had already done the research and things of that sort. I do agree tho, he doesn't fully explain what places to go to, what should you eat instead of blazay blezay, what do these grains come from? Things of that sort. And of course Sir, you aren't about to get a full fledge explanation by someone in customer service they like "UM I'M JUST TRYNA GET PAID DUDE IDK IDK" but I do enjoy what it provided for me. 😬
Tootsie roll meat! I'm dying! What a thoughtful review.
No you didn't call those oreo vegans out 💀
This docu is going to get the pass from me. My diet is similar, plant based with some meat here and there ("condimeat"). My issue is more with grains like wheat and corn, and those are the foods that make us more susceptible to diabetes, not meat lololol The fact he said fat is the reason has me on the floor.
Can you link me a good article about corn and more specifically wheat, being a huge factor into people getting diabetes? Thanks!
Shaz123 lol ikr
Shaz123 my college nutrition book, but you can google peer reviewed articles. Basically it relates to insulin sensitivity and resistance due to carbs (mostly simple carbs without fiber). Americans eat a lot of processed carbs (wheat and corn products) and sugars, so it increases our chances of ill health.
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Aren't processed carbs actually things like white bread and white rice? I'm not trying to shade you at all btw lol. I am genuinely concerned and interested.
"You can't make a documentary out of Googling things, then rolling up on the receptionist" 😭😭🤣 My chest
That documentary was a Lifetime dramatics mess lol I though it was Mocomentery for a minute 😭😭
Please review Knives over Forks on Netflix!
evelyn- where did you get that lipstick tho?
Girl you're hilarious...keep reviewing stuff!!
she didn't mention the human cost of eating meat...
Please review Insecure season 2!
I actually loved the doc. I started going vegan because what the hell it can only help right? Been doing it for a month now and I do feel better about my choices. It's a long road to full vegan for me but one step at a time works.
You should watch 'In Defense of Food' too. I liked this documentary more. Michael Pollan's perspective is a lot more balanced and objective. If you're someone that needs facts and data, watch Forks Over Knives. It's not as entertaining but it really does explain everything thoroughly
I love watching these
a review I didn't know I needed.
Personally eating like beans and rice and potatoes are a lot cheaper than buying meat and as someone who's pinching every last penny I can understand that it's just hella cheaper to go and eat a fast food hamburger bc they're like 99 cents but buying a big thing of rice at Costco and some soy sauce will sustain you a lot longer than one hamburger
What brand are your glasses? They're SO cute
They're eyekepper! You can buy them on amazon: www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0717BNNVN/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I couldn't get far in the doc until I turned it off. It felt like so many things was skewed misinformation or more opinion-based more than fact-based even when the doctor was talking
Ev what lipstick are you wearing? You look gorgeous!
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