You guys are so far off the mark it's troubling. Troubling because there's abundant evidence that the house where these murders occurred was wide open to the world. Look at all the video evidence right here on UA-cam! Look at all of the occasions where the police were summoned to the house for disturbances, including those where none of the individuals who lived there were even in the place. It was PARTY CENTRAL and hundreds of individuals were in and out of that place. CourtTV knows this but they're too worried about being "politically correct" to point it out. People will say "oh you've upset the parents and other family members of the victims." Those parents should have raised those girls to behave themselves properly. They's be alive today.
It would be really cool twist if we discover it wasn’t him in both cases after all. Better to know if sooner than after DP otherwise if it wasn’t him the real killer will be very happy and all justice system & police will look like idiots, again 😅😮
Yes but it's a good question. If you were thinking that there's reasonable doubt that somebody else did this, then you should be glad that they cleared him. It's not ridiculous it's not ridiculous it's called impartial investigation
It just depends on how he was cleared. If he had a solid alibi, then it wasn't him. But if they cleared him because he didn't match an eyewitness account, then it could have been him, since eyewitness accounts are unreliable.
She said she thought it was a girl at first, also said person was short and possibly their har was hanging out of the bottom of the purple balaclava they were wearing
Thats what I said too, I beleive it was the neighbor that did this. He had done something similar before. Wgen the officer checked this guy out. It was NOT Bryan Koberger!
I thought that too but victim identification can be wrong...
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oh come on guys! he wasn't even the interest in the case. you literally wrote on your website that, i quote: "the victim described the assailant as 5-foot-3 to 5-foot-5, while Bryan Kohberger is six feet tall. (!) At the time of the attack, Kohberger was not yet registered at the University of Washington, nor were there records of him visiting the area (!!!)." this guy needs a fair trial. you're not helping him. at all.
Ignorance is bliss. 🤦🏻♀️ You do realize that people travel to and from to different states before they moved there right ? People travel everyday. Lmao
My father and myself always thought it was hilarious that it took Kohberger the better part of 18 months to come up with an alibi and when he did he said he was out 'Star Gazing All Night" .. The problem was Meteorologist quickly pointed out the Pullman ,Washington and Moscow ,Idaho area was under a thick cloud cover with the cumulus ceiling at 2000 feet making it visually impossible to see any stars... Then his Lawyer had to change stories and say he was just out for an evening drive. My dad is a respected Lawyer with 32 years of Legal experience and an IVY League Grad. My dad said "this sad sack kid is as guilty as it gets'
For those thinking it’s a slam dunk Kohberger is getting convicted for the Idaho crime, I say not so fast. We obviously don’t have access to all the evidence. But this is definitely helpful for the defense. Will be a fascinating case.
@ Yeah, that’s what my DNA will be the toughest thing for the defense to explain. May ultimately lead to his demise. There’s quite a bit of evidence, but I just don’t think it’s a slam dunk. I’d put it at 75-80% he gets convicted
@@corey5860 "Touch DNA" can be contested as planted or false positive. They never found *any of the victims' DNA* in his apartment, in his car, or in his parents house. Which shows they were unable to produce strong evidence because of lack of it.
@ He cleaned up well. Wore gloves even taking out his parents trash. I can’t wait until trial to see the overwhelming evidence against this psychopath.
If it's not Kohberger, Then it's one of the police officers that has been to the house for noise complaints. I believe it's when Maddie was questioned. That one police officer became obsessed with her.
Yes, this is very possible, but I believe it was Kaylee who was questioned/harassed, outback/outside the sliderdoor, in broad daylight, being given a threat about noise violation charge. After seeing the body cameras footage of the officer responding to the other girl (living across from Jack D on King Rd) who had her suitcase left in the road and the officer finished her sentence for her when she started to explain where her underwear was... SUS AF
They’re trying really hard to muddy him up before this trial. Just makes you think even more that he didn’t do this crime, but someone wants him to be the scapegoat because the alternative is worse.
Idaho police and the prosecutors NEED a scapegate after their botched investigation. Maybe someone needs to take a very close look at them and some of their officers behavior leading up to and after the crime.
How, when they clearly stated that the defense could use this to try to flip the story and say that this case must be related. Y'all act like more than one person can't commit a crime. Whoever did this in 2021 was a criminal, and Brian is a criminal for doing what he did. Too much evidence against him. He should just plead guitly. The man is crazy.
I personally think he is taking the entire fall as some sort of experiment. Yeah I think he’s guilty of murder but I also believe he had help. Dude is obsessed with serial killers and their history and I feel like him taking the fall, not talking, not seeing anyone besides his pastor, literally watching himself on tv and avoiding other inmates is some sort of weird experiment to him…
Well if you listen to Julia speaking, then you would know that this is very important because it gives rise to evidence that there was similar behavior in a very close proximity to the crime scene one year before. It's very important.
It’s not important because Kolburger wasn’t even in the state at the time so it is not even an issue. That doesn’t mean he didn’t murder the four college kids 🤷♀️
Because now the date has passed November 5th,and they/he-whatever,need something else to hype all the lies.... Money over people...... That's the way the world is in this day'n'age,sad as it is...
Kohbergers name was NOT added to this case till AFTER he was arrested for Idaho. He was named as a Person of interest due to knife, house of 4, mask etc. Also both cop and witness state perp was short. BK is 6ft tall and 185lbs.
That’s why it is important. It is a similar MO to the crime that he is being charged with but he wasn’t in the state supposedly. Could help the defense argue there is another man who was already committing those crimes.
You guys missed the point it's about the defense. If you're his attorney, you're going to use this to say hey it's possible that there was somebody else doing this before my client ever moved here.
Hmm. First of all I never trust news and as someone else says where was this story prior... It used to be news actually did a real job and someone at least weekly would be at the local courthouses getting the cases, news, charges, doesn't happen any longer. They are a JOKE. Now it's nothing but politics. This should have been huge news in that area. YTers are far better reporters, seriously. And is it proven that BK was NOT out there... IF this tale is even true.
Lmao. You do know that people travel to and from to different states/countries all the time right ? Do you know his whereabouts, and points of travel every time he went somewhere?
I believe Kohberger is indeed the murderer of the 4 students, and just as strong as that belief is the belief that the quadruple murder wasn’t Kohberger’s only crime.
no the person who did it was unalived by police. Who just happened to not have any of their cameras going. He is ex-military and suffered badly from PTSD. Sadly he never got the support or treatment he deserved. Look up Brent Kopacka.
@@knightronYour DNA ends up in multiple places you have never been. Teeny tiny amount of DNA at a huge crime scene and nothing in his car. How did he get that clean? He couldn't.
What in the world is happening over at Court TV? It used to be a decent place to get educated on cases, but they aren’t even bothering now to do their due diligence at getting the facts correct!
its media everywhere ... try finding any actual facts about the 2016 english 20 year old who tried to steal the gun off the cop to shoot trump at the 2016 rally and its literally laughable ... its so bizaire anymore ... feel like we are in the twilight zone you know... its like the media all is conspiring in one big troll group on us all
Why isn’t BRETT PAYNE a POI…. He’s the actual height the victim describes and was in the area…didn’t live far… But yes let’s blame someone who is at least 6” taller , didn’t live there at the time…didn’t know he was going to be awarded an opportunity to even be there at the time so why would he have any interest at all in that area thousands of miles away from where he actually was! Tell the truth that he was officially CLEARED of this and this kinda activity was happening before BK stepped foot in that state!!!!! Pathetic attempt to literally get an innocent person killed!
@PLUNDER tell your friend Jenn with 2 enns she is an idiot who just put herself into a very precarious position!! Ask her where she was on 13/11/22 she is damn well crazy enough to be out there doing stuff like this 💯💯 And you also know damn well this had nothing to do with Bryan but you saw some dollar signs and couldn’t control yourself..
Mask, knife and a 5’3-5’5 very short perp?! Definitely NOT Bryan and definitely good for the defense. Hmmm maybe this was the real killer of the Idaho 4
This is so stupid, because Bryan Kohberger was not even living in Washington or Idaho at the time, and is a completely different height, no connection at all. The other stupid thing, is how the Idaho police were trying to get the Pennsylvania police to blame murders on Kohberger that Bryan Kohberger had absolutely nothing to do with. A 20th Request For Discovery by Kohberger's defense team should not go unnoticed in court. So where is it??? And the court replied on the 19th Request, "We're not sifting through 2,000 pages of data..." So, Anne Taylor's job is to prove a crumbling case, and I feel this case is falling apart and this young man was forced to waive his right to a speedy trial because of it. Let's think about it---20th Request For Discovery that has been made by Kohberger's Defense Team. From what I recall, it was reported early on that once they got to the storage unit there was nothing in there and there was no evidence of him ever having used the storage unit. In the court hearing. It was very clearly stated that there was no evidence found in Bryan Kohberger's car, apartment, storage or work areas. There were People In The House During The Crime, Coroner Mabutt said it occurred approximately 2:00 a.m. to 2:30 a.m. and those people invited friends over and did not call the police until almost 10 hours later at 11:58 a.m. November 14 and a door was reportedly open, so those roommates who heard noises and saw someone in the home never got up to turn on the heat or go to the bathroom? The touch DNA on the reported snap of the sheath did not even show up on the initial test, it only showed up on subsequent testing, was miniscule and the DNA expert testified it was not an exact match and only touched upon some common markers and, most importantly, very likely came from an outside source. Miniscule particles like that can come from brushing up against someone in a public place such as a bank, grocery store or university. Of interesting note were the court hearings testimonies of Officer Payne and forensic expert Sy Ray, who stated what he had seen so far pointed to Kohberger's innocence. Loads upon loads of reasonable doubt so far in this case. A few of the victim's parents have a history of drug use, drug trafficking and jail time and may possibly know more than they are revealing. More reasonable doubt. I have a friend who moved away from a very large city to where I live and she took one look at the case and said, "Cam girls!" taking photos as twosomes, threesomes, holding hands and kissing in front of hotel beds, traveling everywhere. When one is posting such stuff on social media, and has thousands of followers, one might expect their kid will anticipate meeting some dirty, nefarious individuals. The photographed white car is not Kohberger's, because his 2015 Elantra does not have parallelogram shaped headlights and has a different front grill and side body ridgeline appearance. Different car. Sounds like some friend or family member or university worker saw some guy with bushy eyebrows driving a white car and called in a false tip because it is reported he lives in like a 6 to 8 mile radius. It will be interesting to see how the two roomies appear on the police camera footage, are they all disheveled with smeared make-up from the night before with hair product still in their hair, in their same clothes? Isn't it awfully strange how the hoodie guy seen with them just before the crime, is now in jail and he said while walking with the two girls, "we're gonna getcha for this, Maddie." Very interesting case and, from what I've heard so far, Brian Kohberger is innocent until proven guilty and it seems like cruel an unusual punishment to discuss a means of death on an innocent person before they are even found guilty. I feel this case could potentially impact Frazier vs. Cupp (1969). The Feds already openly stated they did not have any evidence to indict, so they have no obligation to back sloppy police work.
I was wondering the same thing. Maybe 2021 is when it happened and after BK was arrested then they investigated whether or not he could have been in the area in 2021 and connected to that case. Idk though, just a guess.
This crime occurred in 2021 & remains unsolved. Because of similarities between the 2021 crime & the 2022 crime, they investigated to see if he could have been involved in both. Similar to how LE in Pennsylvania stated they were going to investigate unsolved or cold cases there to see if he could have been involved.
If he was in PA, how could be be doing a home invasion in Pullman? And if it wasn't him, it could actually indicate that someone else did it and might be the suspected murder.
Ridiculous! Could have been a robbery attempt, a rapest , a prowler etc. Who knows? Doesn’t have anything to do with Kolberger’s case at the moment. If someone is breaking into somebody’s home, they’re not going to wear sparkles and white or make their face visible so yes, of course they’re similar. I would assume most intruders wear similar clothes. It’s not also uncommon that they carry a knife or a gun. It doesn’t mean that they’re the same person that carried out this crime. If you were talking to police, and I am assuming you haven’t, as you are suggesting they didn’t do their job based on what? Do you have evidence that they didn’t do their job? You sound like you are gossips! That is what you do for clicks! Also of course it is eerie and scary as the less desirable people that police face often are. You shouldn’t just make a statement like I don’t think home invasions are that common without facts - especially in your position. Frustrating when I hear people just basically gossip for clicks. You guys contribute to making it infuriating for the victims of families. I recommend that you’d be more responsible.
Yea she was laying down when she saw the perp. But there is obvious a masked intruder in Idaho and it was not BK so your telling me there are 2 of these?
@@rossi5839 ty im never selling anything that could be used in a murder ever again xD now im like damn i should shut my ebay down ffs people be planting my touch dna everywhere ffs
Home invasions are NOT unheard of in this area. My friends had a similar incident at their house there a few years ago where a guy w/a knife broke in during the middle of the night but was caught & arrested
I heard nothing bc I couldn't stop watching Jack Rice smirking and smiling all the way through this interview. Inappropriate considering the sobering murder that happened.
Police unalived one suspect. Investigation was poor at best and think some of the officers themselves need to be looked at. Think they didn't bother investigating further once they had a scapegoat. 3 male DNA found at property still not identified.
He was placed as a POI 13 days AFTER his arrest, as is the standard practice (authorities recheck many unsolved cases looking for links after an arrest. PA authorities literally said they were sifting through thousands of unsolved cases looking for links to no avail back in February/March 2023). He was quickly ruled out. He was not in Pullman at the time, he was still in Pennsylvania up until June 2022. And he is over 6 ft, the perp was described as 5 ft 3-5 ft 5. Case is closed even though it’s unsolved. This is a non-story that is being spun to prejudice him when in fact it could benefit him. He’s not been charged with anything else which is telling.
Kristin David Senior student at the University of Idaho, Kristin Noel David, 22, was last seen on a bicycle on June 26, 1981, while travelling from Moscow, Idaho, south on U.S. Highway 95 to Lewiston, Idaho. Is this also something you are going to spend hours fo your time and wasting money to try to put another link with Bryan together? There are instance after instance of these type of incidents that happened in that area.
Yes, one only needs to see the police reports from Moscow & surrounding areas, to realise crime is rampant in those communities, oh and the arrest sheets as well, going back yrs.
Just stop Court TV. Trying to hang previous home invasions on Kolbergers case that you don’t have already. The news readers child-like cadence and the guest with his child-like cadence keep the two or three people drooling and nodding that actually watch your frame-job. Just stop. It’s fkn evil.🎉
But they have not blamed him there, they cleared him. The other crim did not kill anyone. Lots of criminals wear ski masks, it is a cliche for a reason.
How many inches is the step in the 1122 house from the kitchen to livingroom???? Was he standing in the livingroom side when Dylan seen him so he appears taller???? Was the perp really 5.5 with a 5” step!!!! Was he already in that house lying in wait…
Allegedly BT to BP: we're running short here.. find me something, anything! blame him on ANYTHING!! 😅(unfortunately the witness said the perp was just as tall as BP)
Bk was never investigated or questioned at the time. There is proof they added his name to the case file as person of interest after he was arrested for students early in 2023.
This is incredible. Please get your story straight. Trying to gain support for the guilty verdict possibly to come. The world is watching and waiting for real evidence.
Seriously... the two men described were short... period.. what's to investigate ? and BK was not even the area at the time, Why cant you reporters do a bit of deep dive as to all the inconsistencies from the LE -Prosecution in the evidence tc. Sigh
Court TV has really become one sided this past year, you just had all defense attorneys, it would have been nice to have someone with a different opinion.
My DNA is on items at places I have never visited. Yours too. The stuff you donated to Goodwill or the items you picked up and looked at in Walmart. Does that make you a guilty of crimes committed where your DNA is?
#CourtTV what do YOU think?
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Need to get his last name correct
@@FreyaRae1510 True
You guys are so far off the mark it's troubling. Troubling because there's abundant evidence that the house where these murders occurred was wide open to the world. Look at all the video evidence right here on UA-cam! Look at all of the occasions where the police were summoned to the house for disturbances, including those where none of the individuals who lived there were even in the place. It was PARTY CENTRAL and hundreds of individuals were in and out of that place. CourtTV knows this but they're too worried about being "politically correct" to point it out. People will say "oh you've upset the parents and other family members of the victims." Those parents should have raised those girls to behave themselves properly. They's be alive today.
@@CourtTV he was cleared in the very beginning of the case.they knew it was not him?
It would be really cool twist if we discover it wasn’t him in both cases after all. Better to know if sooner than after DP otherwise if it wasn’t him the real killer will be very happy and all justice system & police will look like idiots, again 😅😮
The assailant was short. Kohberger is 6ft or better. Stop wasting people's time.
Okay you aren’t running this investigation, now are you?
@suntiki33 I don't need to be. The girl says it her damn self in the body cam. Maybe try knowing something before hitting send.
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And he didn't even live out there around this time Julez 😂😂😂
Agreed!
He was cleared. This is ridiculous.
Yes but it's a good question. If you were thinking that there's reasonable doubt that somebody else did this, then you should be glad that they cleared him.
It's not ridiculous it's not ridiculous it's called impartial investigation
I AGREE 💯💯💯💯💯💯%
He shouldn't have been!
It just depends on how he was cleared. If he had a solid alibi, then it wasn't him. But if they cleared him because he didn't match an eyewitness account, then it could have been him, since eyewitness accounts are unreliable.
@jimnasium7700 he was cleared because he was supposedly still in PA at the time.
Yeah right.
He was investigated AFTER the Idaho 4 murders and he wasn't there in 2021.
ya, this is so misleading
well he's done a great job of evading so far
Amen
@djohny-ne3gg That's not the point 😂😂
We need to figure out what is going on in that area of Idaho though 😳. And if I was working for the defense I would latch on this like a dog
The witness in the Oct. 2021 home invasion described the perpetrator as short. Kohberger is tall.
@@MFC7625 And he didn't even live there in 2021 😅
Descriptions aren't always accurate, especially in the dark.
@desert_moon well he was in PA at the time
@@desert_moon So does that mean you also put no stock in dylans description?
Goes both ways right? Maybe this is what you meant!!
Eyewitnesses have been wrong before and police clearance.
The victim had said that the man in the mask was very short, Bryan is tall
She said she thought it was a girl at first, also said person was short and possibly their har was hanging out of the bottom of the purple balaclava they were wearing
Thats what I said too, I beleive it was the neighbor that did this. He had done something similar before. Wgen the officer checked this guy out. It was NOT Bryan Koberger!
Ya, it was Odinists
Ya, it was Odinists
I thought that too but victim identification can be wrong...
oh come on guys! he wasn't even the interest in the case. you literally wrote on your website that, i quote: "the victim described the assailant as 5-foot-3 to 5-foot-5, while Bryan Kohberger is six feet tall. (!) At the time of the attack, Kohberger was not yet registered at the University of Washington, nor were there records of him visiting the area (!!!)."
this guy needs a fair trial. you're not helping him. at all.
He probably was visiting town before moving to the area.
@@ElizabethPrendergast-gr7wt get yourself educated in this case instead of being dumb.....
@@ElizabethPrendergast-gr7wtno the poloce confirmed he wasn’t there
im so confused by this ... why did they think he was a suspect if he wasnt registered there or visiting ?
At least 6ft 1.
Yall I hope he sues. He wasn’t even in WA yet. He got there in June of 2022. Yall will see. This was rug related and multiple perp crime.
So you don’t think he visited before moving to another state?
@@mstea2234 amen!!!
Ignorance is bliss. 🤦🏻♀️ You do realize that people travel to and from to different states before they moved there right ? People travel everyday. Lmao
@@MissRobynonUA-campolice confirmed he wasn’t there. They cleared him.
My father and myself always thought it was hilarious that it took Kohberger the better part of 18 months to come up with an alibi and when he did he said he was out 'Star Gazing All Night" .. The problem was Meteorologist quickly pointed out the Pullman ,Washington and Moscow ,Idaho area was under a thick cloud cover with the cumulus ceiling at 2000 feet making it visually impossible to see any stars... Then his Lawyer had to change stories and say he was just out for an evening drive.
My dad is a respected Lawyer with 32 years of Legal experience and an IVY League Grad. My dad said "this sad sack kid is as guilty as it gets'
This is good for the defense team
For those thinking it’s a slam dunk Kohberger is getting convicted for the Idaho crime, I say not so fast. We obviously don’t have access to all the evidence. But this is definitely helpful for the defense. Will be a fascinating case.
Wait until trial. Police have lots of evidence including Bryan’s DNA at crime scene.
@ Yeah, that’s what my DNA will be the toughest thing for the defense to explain. May ultimately lead to his demise. There’s quite a bit of evidence, but I just don’t think it’s a slam dunk. I’d put it at 75-80% he gets convicted
Crim’S yes
@@corey5860 "Touch DNA" can be contested as planted or false positive. They never found *any of the victims' DNA* in his apartment, in his car, or in his parents house.
Which shows they were unable to produce strong evidence because of lack of it.
@ He cleaned up well. Wore gloves even taking out his parents trash. I can’t wait until trial to see the overwhelming evidence against this psychopath.
Report is the alleged person is short. Bryan is tall.
This was already proven false. Bryan was not in the state then.
If it's not Kohberger,
Then it's one of the police officers that has been to the house for noise complaints.
I believe it's when Maddie was questioned. That one police officer became obsessed with her.
Yes, this is very possible, but I believe it was Kaylee who was questioned/harassed, outback/outside the sliderdoor, in broad daylight, being given a threat about noise violation charge. After seeing the body cameras footage of the officer responding to the other girl (living across from Jack D on King Rd) who had her suitcase left in the road and the officer finished her sentence for her when she started to explain where her underwear was... SUS AF
@@thesummerof1968 bingo..
Here we go spreading misleading things about Kohberger.
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This is the true crime content equivalent of dumpster diving.
Next thing they’ll be saying a man in 1984 with a knife and mask in Los Angeles with a pentagram on his hand could’ve been Bryan Kohberger. 🤦🏻♂️
They’re trying really hard to muddy him up before this trial. Just makes you think even more that he didn’t do this crime, but someone wants him to be the scapegoat because the alternative is worse.
Idaho police and the prosecutors NEED a scapegate after their botched investigation. Maybe someone needs to take a very close look at them and some of their officers behavior leading up to and after the crime.
The Goncalves want him.
How, when they clearly stated that the defense could use this to try to flip the story and say that this case must be related. Y'all act like more than one person can't commit a crime. Whoever did this in 2021 was a criminal, and Brian is a criminal for doing what he did. Too much evidence against him. He should just plead guitly. The man is crazy.
I personally think he is taking the entire fall as some sort of experiment. Yeah I think he’s guilty of murder but I also believe he had help.
Dude is obsessed with serial killers and their history and I feel like him taking the fall, not talking, not seeing anyone besides his pastor, literally watching himself on tv and avoiding other inmates is some sort of weird experiment to him…
Not him, why are you reporting this?
Well if you listen to Julia speaking, then you would know that this is very important because it gives rise to evidence that there was similar behavior in a very close proximity to the crime scene one year before. It's very important.
People are realizing the Idaho accusations are bunk so now the mainstream media is getting desparate
Tik Tok generation is always wrong with true crime. Brainwashed
It’s not important because Kolburger wasn’t even in the state at the time so it is not even an issue. That doesn’t mean he didn’t murder the four college kids 🤷♀️
Because now the date has passed November 5th,and they/he-whatever,need something else to hype all the lies.... Money over people...... That's the way the world is in this day'n'age,sad as it is...
Fake news. Shame on Court TV. YOU are better than this
Kohbergers name was NOT added to this case till AFTER he was arrested for Idaho. He was named as a Person of interest due to knife, house of 4, mask etc. Also both cop and witness state perp was short. BK is 6ft tall and 185lbs.
this news is making it seem like it was before
He wasn’t even living in the area then 🤦🏼♀️🤦🏼♀️
That’s why it is important. It is a similar MO to the crime that he is being charged with but he wasn’t in the state supposedly. Could help the defense argue there is another man who was already committing those crimes.
@ that’s true!
He didnt even live there a year prior in Idaho ... Court TV has no idea what theyre doing 🤦♂️
They do know what they are doing. Trying to get clicks and make money.
They should be sued for this!
Innocent till proven guilty.
Bryan didn't even live out there around this time 😂😂
How is this still news?? It wasnt him he wasn't in town and the burglar was 5'3. He's guilty, but not of this burglary
And look at Plunder in their comments giving them Kudos. Gross.
@@JulezwithTrueCrimeReactionswhy do you say that about PLUNDER?
@@AlwaysStormy88 amen
@@JulezwithTrueCrimeReactionsRight
5”3…ran after kicked. Sounds like a female.
Too bad this is impossible cuz he only lived there since that July 😂😂 Good try though, do better lmaooo
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I don't think BK was living there in 2021. 🤔
He wasn’t
He didn't have to reside in Idaho at the time the breakin happened, only to be there!!!
@ BK is also not 5’3 or 5’4
But he was in Moscow often. He doesn't need to live there lol
Bryan Kohberger wasn't even in Washington until June of 2022. He was in Pennsylvania.
AMEN!!!! THE NEWS IS DELUSIONAL 😂
You guys missed the point it's about the defense. If you're his attorney, you're going to use this to say hey it's possible that there was somebody else doing this before my client ever moved here.
My question is was this crime ever featured in the news? If so isn't it possible that he may have seen it and tried to mimic this crime.
Hmm. First of all I never trust news and as someone else says where was this story prior... It used to be news actually did a real job and someone at least weekly would be at the local courthouses getting the cases, news, charges, doesn't happen any longer. They are a JOKE. Now it's nothing but politics. This should have been huge news in that area. YTers are far better reporters, seriously.
And is it proven that BK was NOT out there... IF this tale is even true.
Lmao. You do know that people travel to and from to different states/countries all the time right ? Do you know his whereabouts, and points of travel every time he went somewhere?
He wasn't even in the state of Washington when that happened snd he certainly isn't 5 foot 3" to 5 foot 5" tall! Why are you reporting this?
Such sensationalism. How about try some journalism.
They don't care about journalism, they primarily care about making money.
Bryan left his house at the same time Kaylee phone switched off the only way he could have done these murders is if he teleported there wake up people
Total BS. STOP THE LIES.
What lies? DNA ain't no liar dude.
@Ultorvindex you don't have a clue what you're talking about!!
I believe Kohberger is indeed the murderer of the 4 students, and just as strong as that belief is the belief that the quadruple murder wasn’t Kohberger’s only crime.
Hmm
What evidence do you have that’s beyond reasonable doubt that bk IS the person that did this all?
I respect your opinion, but for some reason, I feel like he really didn’t do it. I don’t think he could have done it by himself.
@@KathleenTackett-r8w he did it
I wouldn't think a novice would take on four victims for his first time up to bat. I suppose it's possible but I have doubts about that.
Brian Kohlberger is not the murderer of the 4 Idaho students.
Yes He Was.
Yes he is
no the person who did it was unalived by police. Who just happened to not have any of their cameras going. He is ex-military and suffered badly from PTSD. Sadly he never got the support or treatment he deserved. Look up Brent Kopacka.
DNA doesn't lie.
@@knightronYour DNA ends up in multiple places you have never been. Teeny tiny amount of DNA at a huge crime scene and nothing in his car. How did he get that clean? He couldn't.
What in the world is happening over at Court TV? It used to be a decent place to get educated on cases, but they aren’t even bothering now to do their due diligence at getting the facts correct!
its media everywhere ... try finding any actual facts about the 2016 english 20 year old who tried to steal the gun off the cop to shoot trump at the 2016 rally and its literally laughable ... its so bizaire anymore ... feel like we are in the twilight zone you know... its like the media all is conspiring in one big troll group on us all
this further proves Kohberger is innocent.
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😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I don't believe that was him
Who cares what you believe.
@Ultorvindex didn't ask you to care what I believe
Good thing what you believe is irrelevant then.
Why isn’t BRETT PAYNE a POI….
He’s the actual height the victim describes and was in the area…didn’t live far…
But yes let’s blame someone who is at least 6” taller , didn’t live there at the time…didn’t know he was going to be awarded an opportunity to even be there at the time so why would he have any interest at all in that area thousands of miles away from where he actually was!
Tell the truth that he was officially CLEARED of this and this kinda activity was happening before BK stepped foot in that state!!!!!
Pathetic attempt to literally get an innocent person killed!
No, he grew 😂😂😂😂 what a joke
Thanks for covering this!
This was not him
@PLUNDER tell your friend Jenn with 2 enns she is an idiot who just put herself into a very precarious position!!
Ask her where she was on 13/11/22 she is damn well crazy enough to be out there doing stuff like this 💯💯
And you also know damn well this had nothing to do with Bryan but you saw some dollar signs and couldn’t control yourself..
Stop lying PLUNDER....
with all lies!
He was investigated, but proven that it was not him... NOW WHAT..
Give me a break. This was NOT Bryan so why even bring it forward - other than to taint the jury pool even more?
I dont belreve he murdered these people
Mask, knife and a 5’3-5’5 very short perp?! Definitely NOT Bryan and definitely good for the defense. Hmmm maybe this was the real killer of the Idaho 4
Anyone know how tall Brent Kopacka was?
I am sure I watched a clip someone where the witness said the intruder looked like a female
Yeah, I mean clearly Bryan’s DNA on the alleged murder weapon was this other person trying to frame him. 🙄🙄🙄
@@molliek1079 the sheath was not the murder weapon!
And it wasn't Brian 😐 what a surprise
so you're not going to report BK is not considered a suspect for those attacks by the police? srsly? they documented this already =_=
@@DuiDrop if you read the headline they are asking does this raise reasonable doubt for Brian and help him in court
My thing is he didn’t even live there a year before the crimes where committed
Isn’t this defamation?
This is so stupid, because Bryan Kohberger was not even living in Washington or Idaho at the time, and is a completely different height, no connection at all. The other stupid thing, is how the Idaho police were trying to get the Pennsylvania police to blame murders on Kohberger that Bryan Kohberger had absolutely nothing to do with. A 20th Request For Discovery by Kohberger's defense team should not go unnoticed in court. So where is it??? And the court replied on the 19th Request, "We're not sifting through 2,000 pages of data..." So, Anne Taylor's job is to prove a crumbling case, and I feel this case is falling apart and this young man was forced to waive his right to a speedy trial because of it. Let's think about it---20th Request For Discovery that has been made by Kohberger's Defense Team. From what I recall, it was reported early on that once they got to the storage unit there was nothing in there and there was no evidence of him ever having used the storage unit. In the court hearing. It was very clearly stated that there was no evidence found in Bryan Kohberger's car, apartment, storage or work areas. There were People In The House During The Crime, Coroner Mabutt said it occurred approximately 2:00 a.m. to 2:30 a.m. and those people invited friends over and did not call the police until almost 10 hours later at 11:58 a.m. November 14 and a door was reportedly open, so those roommates who heard noises and saw someone in the home never got up to turn on the heat or go to the bathroom? The touch DNA on the reported snap of the sheath did not even show up on the initial test, it only showed up on subsequent testing, was miniscule and the DNA expert testified it was not an exact match and only touched upon some common markers and, most importantly, very likely came from an outside source. Miniscule particles like that can come from brushing up against someone in a public place such as a bank, grocery store or university. Of interesting note were the court hearings testimonies of Officer Payne and forensic expert Sy Ray, who stated what he had seen so far pointed to Kohberger's innocence. Loads upon loads of reasonable doubt so far in this case. A few of the victim's parents have a history of drug use, drug trafficking and jail time and may possibly know more than they are revealing. More reasonable doubt. I have a friend who moved away from a very large city to where I live and she took one look at the case and said, "Cam girls!" taking photos as twosomes, threesomes, holding hands and kissing in front of hotel beds, traveling everywhere. When one is posting such stuff on social media, and has thousands of followers, one might expect their kid will anticipate meeting some dirty, nefarious individuals. The photographed white car is not Kohberger's, because his 2015 Elantra does not have parallelogram shaped headlights and has a different front grill and side body ridgeline appearance. Different car. Sounds like some friend or family member or university worker saw some guy with bushy eyebrows driving a white car and called in a false tip because it is reported he lives in like a 6 to 8 mile radius. It will be interesting to see how the two roomies appear on the police camera footage, are they all disheveled with smeared make-up from the night before with hair product still in their hair, in their same clothes? Isn't it awfully strange how the hoodie guy seen with them just before the crime, is now in jail and he said while walking with the two girls, "we're gonna getcha for this, Maddie." Very interesting case and, from what I've heard so far, Brian Kohberger is innocent until proven guilty and it seems like cruel an unusual punishment to discuss a means of death on an innocent person before they are even found guilty. I feel this case could potentially impact Frazier vs. Cupp (1969). The Feds already openly stated they did not have any evidence to indict, so they have no obligation to back sloppy police work.
Too long to even bother reading. Is there enough circumstantial evidence for a jury to convict Kohburger?
where did you get all this info from? esp. the stuff about the DNA.
They cleared him as he was not in the state at the time of that crime.
why was he investigated in 2021? what was the link? what lead them to BK after that event?
That’s my question too
I was wondering the same thing. Maybe 2021 is when it happened and after BK was arrested then they investigated whether or not he could have been in the area in 2021 and connected to that case. Idk though, just a guess.
This crime occurred in 2021 & remains unsolved. Because of similarities between the 2021 crime & the 2022 crime, they investigated to see if he could have been involved in both. Similar to how LE in Pennsylvania stated they were going to investigate unsolved or cold cases there to see if he could have been involved.
@@SusanaXpeace2u he didn't even live there around this time 😅😅 they're grasping hard
He was investigated after the idaho 4 for the crime in 2021. They were looking to see if he was connected to any other crimes. No surprise. He wasnt
Holy cow! I cannot wait until it is proven that he is found Not Guilty of everything! ✌️
Share with us the reasons for your thinking.
We want to know.
If he was in PA, how could be be doing a home invasion in Pullman? And if it wasn't him, it could actually indicate that someone else did it and might be the suspected murder.
This is possibly the person who murdered the Idaho 4. It isn’t BK.
It's my understanding that he wasn't even living in Idaho at the time..
He wasn't even in Idaho at that time. 🙄🙄🙄
Your so true
Pullman is only a few miles from the border of Idaho.
Wasn’t he in Pennsylvania then??
If he was anywhere it was still a home eviction.
@ yes but he wasn’t in that side of the country back then.!
Guilty as sin. No question
Oh really ?
@@tommyg5095 Yeah, really GROUPIE .....
this further proves Kohberger is innocent.
With no evidence??... foh
Definitely guilty! 💯
Now he’s a teleporting ninja 🥷
they didn't describe any bushy eyebrows, so cannot guarantee.
I believe they have the wrong guy . I’ve always said that.
Agree! Completely
Congrats for being wrong in the internet world of detective slueths.
Bryan asked if anyone else had been caught when he was caught…. What if there is a second person and that was him?
In the same area, a home intrusion took place in 2017 too.... Where was Kohberger in 2017 and 2021? They have no evidence he was around at the time.
Brian was cleared. The suspect is about 5’6” and Brian is 6’.
Anyone know how tall Brent Kopacka was?
Ridiculous! Could have been a robbery attempt, a rapest , a prowler etc. Who knows? Doesn’t have anything to do with Kolberger’s case at the moment.
If someone is breaking into somebody’s home, they’re not going to wear sparkles and white or make their face visible so yes, of course they’re similar. I would assume most intruders wear similar clothes. It’s not also uncommon that they carry a knife or a gun. It doesn’t mean that they’re the same person that carried out this crime. If you were talking to police, and I am assuming you haven’t, as you are suggesting they didn’t do their job based on what? Do you have evidence that they didn’t do their job? You sound like you are gossips! That is what you do for clicks! Also of course it is eerie and scary as the less desirable people that police face often are. You shouldn’t just make a statement like I don’t think home invasions are that common without facts - especially in your position. Frustrating when I hear people just basically gossip for clicks. You guys contribute to making it infuriating for the victims of families. I recommend that you’d be more responsible.
Yea she was laying down when she saw the perp. But there is obvious a masked intruder in Idaho and it was not BK so your telling me there are 2 of these?
"Suspect"? This individual has been proven guilty of this horrific thing already by forensic DNA.
Someone said he took the knife and sheath to a pawn star. Have you heard that he may not have had the knife at that time ?
@@rossi5839 ty im never selling anything that could be used in a murder ever again xD now im like damn i should shut my ebay down ffs people be planting my touch dna everywhere ffs
Home invasions are NOT unheard of in this area. My friends had a similar incident at their house there a few years ago where a guy w/a knife broke in during the middle of the night but was caught & arrested
I heard nothing bc I couldn't stop watching Jack Rice smirking and smiling all the way through this interview. Inappropriate considering the sobering murder that happened.
the host was also laughing
If it’s been announced that BK is being investigated for this home invasion, makes me think authorities already know he wasn’t in PA at the time.
OMG are you really this dumb?
He wasn't even living in Idaho yet
He never lived in Idaho. He moved to Pullman, Washington in June 2022 and this case happened in Pullman in October 2021
Was this person paid for this story 🤔
the tape a year before the killings
Just because somebody wasn't convicted of one crime doesn't mean they didn't commit another
Did they ever find anyone else that could have done it.?
Police unalived one suspect. Investigation was poor at best and think some of the officers themselves need to be looked at. Think they didn't bother investigating further once they had a scapegoat. 3 male DNA found at property still not identified.
@@iamarianna8972 wait they killed a suspect? where is that available info ... i didnt hear about this yet :0
@@rightofherwayBrent Kopacka
He was placed as a POI 13 days AFTER his arrest, as is the standard practice (authorities recheck many unsolved cases looking for links after an arrest. PA authorities literally said they were sifting through thousands of unsolved cases looking for links to no avail back in February/March 2023). He was quickly ruled out. He was not in Pullman at the time, he was still in Pennsylvania up until June 2022. And he is over 6 ft, the perp was described as 5 ft 3-5 ft 5. Case is closed even though it’s unsolved. This is a non-story that is being spun to prejudice him when in fact it could benefit him.
He’s not been charged with anything else which is telling.
So, BK is in Idaho a year before 1122 King? LE and CourtTV really grasping at straws to light under this kid.
Kristin David
Senior student at the University of Idaho, Kristin Noel David, 22, was last seen on a bicycle on June 26, 1981, while travelling from Moscow, Idaho, south on U.S. Highway 95 to Lewiston, Idaho. Is this also something you are going to spend hours fo your time and wasting money to try to put another link with Bryan together?
There are instance after instance of these type of incidents that happened in that area.
Yes, one only needs to see the police reports from Moscow & surrounding areas, to realise crime is rampant in those communities, oh and the arrest sheets as well, going back yrs.
CourtTV - how about you cover a proper link (and possible suspect) to the crime. Please investigate and report on Brent Kopacka.
BK will be free man in 2025 🗽
He won’t be … he’s snap sheath was found under one of his victims.
Sounds like Richard Allen part 2 lies about height, again.😮
Just stop Court TV. Trying to hang previous home invasions on Kolbergers case that you don’t have already. The news readers child-like cadence and the guest with his child-like cadence keep the two or three people drooling and nodding that actually watch your frame-job. Just stop. It’s fkn evil.🎉
He’s innocent!!
Can you give us a date for the 2021 incident?
But they have not blamed him there, they cleared him. The other crim did not kill anyone. Lots of criminals wear ski masks, it is a cliche for a reason.
He’ll get off
My question is, why was he investigated in the other incident? What brought them to think he was responsible?
So chilling 😢 she was almost the victim 😢
How many inches is the step in the 1122 house from the kitchen to livingroom????
Was he standing in the livingroom side when Dylan seen him so he appears taller????
Was the perp really 5.5 with a 5” step!!!!
Was he already in that house lying in wait…
Sensationalism reporting.
ok this is just click bait nonsense.
Allegedly BT to BP: we're running short here.. find me something, anything! blame him on ANYTHING!! 😅(unfortunately the witness said the perp was just as tall as BP)
The defense.. THANK YOU for the reasonable doubt christmas present
Bk was never investigated or questioned at the time. There is proof they added his name to the case file as person of interest after he was arrested for students early in 2023.
This is incredible. Please get your story straight. Trying to gain support for the guilty verdict possibly to come. The world is watching and waiting for real evidence.
Hey loser you sure take off quick when people challenge you
I’ve felt that he has experimented before.
I wouldn't be surprised. I've wondered if the crimes he's accused of are his first rodeo. Pretty bold for a first timer to take on four victims.
Did you not hear that they CLEARED HIM??
@@lisabradford8180 Criminals are said to practice or like you said, they probably didn’t get caught the first time.
this further proves Kohberger is innocent.
Which means nothing of whether or not he has experimented before. Just that he was cleared of this one. @@JulezwithTrueCrimeReactions
What I want to know is why was he on their radar for the other invasion??
Any channel still pushing this story should be brought up on obstruction of justice. BK was cleared as a suspect in this
Seriously... the two men described were short... period.. what's to investigate ? and BK was not even the area at the time, Why cant you reporters do a bit of deep dive as to all the inconsistencies from the LE -Prosecution in the evidence tc. Sigh
I honestly dont think this story has any merit to it whatsoever!
Kolberger is guilty
Court TV has really become one sided this past year, you just had all defense attorneys, it would have been nice to have someone with a different opinion.
Wtf? HE WAS IN PA! SUE FOR DEFAMATION.
His snap is on the sheath
Fingerprint on the snap on the sheath.
@@kelseymariel2127😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 seriously? Is this what you really believe?
My DNA is on items at places I have never visited. Yours too. The stuff you donated to Goodwill or the items you picked up and looked at in Walmart. Does that make you a guilty of crimes committed where your DNA is?