Don’t forget the upper brackets too - the one that the wing spars attach to. I replaced my lower ones on my Excalibur with the recommended stainless steel ones. I like the idea of the aluminum bits to distribute the load. Also check the bolt holes on your wing spars for any rounding out. If there is any, you can sleeve the ends of the spar and re-drill the holes for the wing attach bolts. This stuff never ends…
i went with mike whittakers stress report in the files section on the fb challenger group . rony brackets had big washer insert and 5/16 bolt its an intereting stress report
Great video, very informative. Looking at buying a 1995 challenger2 which has not been run for 10 years. Very dirty due to open end on hangar, wings discolored due to sun exposer, holes in horizontal stab at aft end, prop is delaminatinkg on the belt drive rotax 502 but does have potential. Trying to figure out what would be a fair purchase price,-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Les
Sounds like you have a project in your future. If it's structure is sound, the only other consideration is the engine. I would consider just boxing it up and sending it in for a full rebuild, based on how long it has sat idle in storage.
Hello from a Challenger 2 in Northern Virginia! In Canada experimentals have ADs? The heavy lift kit also can increase your load carrying ability as well.
The rules governing experimental aircraft in Canada, differ in some ways from the USA. That is one of them. I was not aware that the max weight was increased with these modified brackets. I will have to look into that. Thanks.
1000% awesome video and one many should watch. CASA No. 2019-02 says to also inspect them at 50hr intervals for Canadian challengers. There's no AD for them here in the states. Like the toolbox you made. I have storage under the seats, so I'll keep a small took kit in one of the seats. My buddies Please back seat area is completely closed off with cloth that was velcroed to those down tubes. ill make a video here shortly of my wing progress and add a pic of his back part
So where your back seat is, I would get 4 (minimum) L- brackets and epoxy rare earth magnets to those brackets. Then rivet the brackets to the fuselage that runs vertical along side of your gas tank. Then take a piece of plexi glass or something similar and epoxy some thin sheets of metal to where your magnets would line up with your L-brackets. Walla, you have a removable wall where you won't need screws or rivets to remove it. Maybe drill a few a few holes to put your fingers through or tie a small rope just a few inches long with a knot at the end or handles,whatever. You get the idea.
They are not expensive at all. When in doubt, just replace them, and record the hours from that point on in your maintenance log book. The most important thing you can do, is a close visual inspection before every flight. Cheers.
Hey bud. A while back I asked you about the challenger 2 and its max load capability and you told me if I get one to have a rotax 582 put in. That's great, except they stop making them however they are still available and parts will also still be available for the next 10 years. But, it has 300 hr limit before needing a rebuild. That's not a lot of time. So what do you suggest for a second engine, same price range and perhaps a 4 stroke.
I have looked into options after I heard that Rotax will be stopping production at the end of 2021. And of right now, the options are just not their from the manufacturer. That being said, because it is experimental, you do have the option to bolt any suitable engine on that you want, within reason. I have looked at the Hirth, and the 3202 as a very viable option. It's still a 2 stroke, but give it a look.
@@jackryan152 OH...sorry. Yes I painted those tubes black, and I will be painting the door and other exposed metal like that flat black as well. I did that to help reduce glare and reflection on the wind screen. Plus I think it looks better.
There are no Airworthiness Directives ADs issued to ultralights in Canada. There are many reasons for these types of brackets fail. Design is not one of them. People tend to over tighten and 'squish' them. Be safe.
Technically, you are right, It's not an AD, it's a Civil Aviation Safety Alert (CASA No. 2019-02) As for the reason for the failure, over tightening is definitely one contributing factor.
Hi Peter, from Toronto.
Building my Challenger 2 for fishing with floats as well. Will watch the rest of the videos.
Thanks,
David
I hope you get some ideas you can use. Maybe one day we can meet at a fly in. Cheers.
Don’t forget the upper brackets too - the one that the wing spars attach to. I replaced my lower ones on my Excalibur with the recommended stainless steel ones.
I like the idea of the aluminum bits to distribute the load.
Also check the bolt holes on your wing spars for any rounding out. If there is any, you can sleeve the ends of the spar and re-drill the holes for the wing attach bolts.
This stuff never ends…
Thanks for the info!
i went with mike whittakers stress report in the files section on the fb challenger group . rony brackets had big washer insert and 5/16 bolt its an intereting stress report
I love that you’re taking this challenger to top of the line status. 👍
Making it safe, fun and reliable is my goal.
Greetings from Stirling, ON.
Cheers from Winnipeg.
Hello Oak Hills.
Challenger. Greetings! useful .
Thank you very much!
If you ever want to sell this Challenger please let me know first. I have supreme confidence in your build quality, and that means a lot.
Well, thank you!
Great video, very informative. Looking at buying a 1995 challenger2 which has not been run for 10 years. Very dirty due to open end on hangar, wings discolored due to sun exposer, holes in horizontal stab at aft end, prop is delaminatinkg on the belt drive rotax 502 but does have potential. Trying to figure out what would be a fair purchase price,-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Les
Sounds like you have a project in your future. If it's structure is sound, the only other consideration is the engine. I would consider just boxing it up and sending it in for a full rebuild, based on how long it has sat idle in storage.
Hello from a Challenger 2 in Northern Virginia! In Canada experimentals have ADs? The heavy lift kit also can increase your load carrying ability as well.
The rules governing experimental aircraft in Canada, differ in some ways from the USA. That is one of them. I was not aware that the max weight was increased with these modified brackets. I will have to look into that. Thanks.
1000% awesome video and one many should watch. CASA No. 2019-02 says to also inspect them at 50hr intervals for Canadian challengers. There's no AD for them here in the states. Like the toolbox you made. I have storage under the seats, so I'll keep a small took kit in one of the seats. My buddies Please back seat area is completely closed off with cloth that was velcroed to those down tubes. ill make a video here shortly of my wing progress and add a pic of his back part
I'd be interested to see that video and picture.
@@challenger2ultralightadventure I posted a new update on the wings.
Hi from plantation Florida
Welcome to my little part of the aviation world.
love the videos - keep em coming
Thanks, will do!
So where your back seat is, I would get 4 (minimum) L- brackets and epoxy rare earth magnets to those brackets. Then rivet the brackets to the fuselage that runs vertical along side of your gas tank. Then take a piece of plexi glass or something similar and epoxy some thin sheets of metal to where your magnets would line up with your L-brackets. Walla, you have a removable wall where you won't need screws or rivets to remove it. Maybe drill a few a few holes to put your fingers through or tie a small rope just a few inches long with a knot at the end or handles,whatever. You get the idea.
Back seat will be installed, but most likely will be seldom used. Most likely camping gear will occupy the rear.
Peter, I find it hard to believe that the original design had a flat bracket, mounting to a tube. That’s asking for trouble, Shirley?
I just purchased an older square nosed model one (2012) does not have the mods....good idea!
@@lesterfriermood5132 , thank you, for your prompt reply. 😂🤣
nice video, I just purchased a challenger 2 which I need to find out how many hours are on the new Roney brackets?
They are not expensive at all. When in doubt, just replace them, and record the hours from that point on in your maintenance log book. The most important thing you can do, is a close visual inspection before every flight. Cheers.
Hey bud. A while back I asked you about the challenger 2 and its max load capability and you told me if I get one to have a rotax 582 put in. That's great, except they stop making them however they are still available and parts will also still be available for the next 10 years. But, it has 300 hr limit before needing a rebuild. That's not a lot of time. So what do you suggest for a second engine, same price range and perhaps a 4 stroke.
I have looked into options after I heard that Rotax will be stopping production at the end of 2021. And of right now, the options are just not their from the manufacturer. That being said, because it is experimental, you do have the option to bolt any suitable engine on that you want, within reason. I have looked at the Hirth, and the 3202 as a very viable option. It's still a 2 stroke, but give it a look.
Signals Corp, eh? If you were a Brit, I would call you a damned Scalyback! 😂🤣
Hello 👍🏼
Hello right back to ya.
did you paint the down tubes? Mine are natural aluminum.
Not painted, but they do have the aerodynamic covers, which are white.
@@challenger2ultralightadventure I was talking about the downtubes and the window frames. They appear to be black.
@@jackryan152 OH...sorry. Yes I painted those tubes black, and I will be painting the door and other exposed metal like that flat black as well. I did that to help reduce glare and reflection on the wind screen. Plus I think it looks better.
There are no Airworthiness Directives ADs issued to ultralights in Canada. There are many reasons for these types of brackets fail. Design is not one of them. People tend to over tighten and
'squish' them. Be safe.
Technically, you are right, It's not an AD, it's a Civil Aviation Safety Alert (CASA No. 2019-02) As for the reason for the failure, over tightening is definitely one contributing factor.
Hello