History of the Jamaican Language | Dr.Carolyn Cooper | B.H.N.T.D Ep. 2
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Baldhead and The Dread Podcast Ep.2 Dr. Carolyn Cooper
Listen reasoning w/Autarchii, Jr , and Dr. Carolyn Cooper as she provides a brief history of the Jamaican language. Dr. Cooper also provides the not so popular history of the origins of the English language.
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Blessup Jamaica .. I'm a black person from USA South Carolina where we speak Gullah which is from the Kola trihbe of West Africa...... Good vibes... Jah Rastafari
Geechee 💪🏿💪🏿
@Norris. ✌🏽✌🏽✌🏽
I'm both gullah and yaadie blood 💪🏿💪🏿 bless up! nuff love fambly 🙌🏿 we a one people from africa 🌍
do we call English 'broken Latin'?
why should we call patwa 'broken English'?
English don't really come from Latin. It's derived from high German or Danish. It's closest relative is Dutch.
BOOM!
Yes I dont like every time they say broken English
@@BennyNegroFromQueens ok- broken German. no-one ever says that...but slave mentality makes us say 'broken' English
@@maaruz1979I don't think it's that deep just listen they're saying some real in this video
Indians and Jamaicans were both victims of the British colony. 261 indentured (i.e. slave) Indians were shipped to Jamaica during the early 1900s and are now the third largest ethnic group after Jamaicans.
Indians also introduced cannabis into the region, and are the reason why ganja is part of a spiritual tradition that Rastafarians adopted as a part of their way of life.
Interesting story…
Pride in our native language, is being proud to be Jamaican! Another reasoning full of substance, give thanks. 1Love
Is funny my parents are Jamaicans but how there teach me that Patois is bad English but despite the facts I born here in Canada and grow up outside Toronto I think Jamaican talk is cool and natural. But there (my parents ) grow up during colonial rule that teach Jamaicans that British English is correct way of speaking.
Great discussion. Love it... 🙋🏾♂️✊🏽✌🏽
@4:00- Jamaican language = "Broken English" = Broken chains of oppression of the colonizers.
You guys should visit Sierra Leone west Africa you will learn that Sierra Leone and Jamaica speak almost the same it just the accent is different...
Wrong 🤦🏽♂️
You’re very right. We have Mende (Sierra Leone) Ancestry. We also use Igbo words (Nigeria).
@@lowlandprophets7831 what do u mean wrong?
The Maroons
I love listening to Africans and Jamaicans speaking their native languages
Patwah is an ever changing language though, to really know Patwah, unuh ave fi be deh deh ah Yaad, di garrisons inna di parishes and di country part, dem ah chat different, dem ave more slang, and ah mek up more words fi inna dem community ( some ah unuh, nah get dis, when mi seh) "yo bro God, mi fwd Road, when mi reach, mi pree seh di gyal bun me" unuh overs, Patwah ah change every year, since from weh day, it nah stay di same, so unuh ave fi gwon ah Yaad, and learn from di people in orda fi chat it like ah Yaadie
Jamaicans should be looking at West African languages in order to get a feel for languages that their ancestors spoke. Swahili is from east Africa. Jamaicans do not descend from east Africa. Of course we are all Africans but it must be emphasised that genetically, ethnically and culturally Jamaicans are west African.
Rite i agree with u..jamaican are from West Africa..but the country in west Africa that speaks the same words as Jamaican is the people from sierra Leone in sierra leone they have the Maroon church which was build by the ex Jamaican slave from England look it up people its on google...
@@malone24cool That's true but actually there is a significant amount from the Igbo language that Jamaicans use to this day... "Unu" has the exact same meaning as it does in Jamaica... Soso meaning "just" or only is also Igbo.
In southern Nigeria they use pidgin English in a very similar way to Jamaica and in fact many of the slaves taken to Jamaica were already speaking pidgin before they arrived in Jamaica.... I'm convinced that Jamaican patois is simply a variation of the pidgin English developed by African children growing up in Jamaica.... Just as the lady said.
English is a mix of the languages of Anglo Saxons, the Vikings and Latin through Norman French. The same way the Jamaican Patwa is a mix of vocabulary and grammatical features from English and various West African languages like Igbo and Twi and many others. Some Jamaicans think that Patwa is just a dialect of English but that is simply not true. Patwa is a true language and a beautiful one.
A chuu mi a taak. Dem shuda tiich di nyuu raitin sistim inna di skuul dem.
@@Africa1000 Sierra Leone people say unu or ouna those two words are speaking in Sierra Leone
@@Africa1000 for instance like house in Sierra Leone they say "ous" and in Jamaican they say "ous" as well
My sister if you speak old English no jamaicans would not overstand what you are talking about
Give thanks fi these 2 kings. I can remember growing up in jamaica and people beating them kids fi speak properly. So i really do give thanks for conversations like these GIVE THANKS.
How comes you guys didn't put any emphasis on the African languages that our so-called ''broken english'' came from. I think people should also know that it wasn't just english and gibberish that our language came from. It was also drawn from languages out of African. You did mention this but it just made me wonder why there wasn't so much emphasis on the black side of the formation of this language. I would say there is much more to our language than that even explained in layman terms, like why the language was created, what purpose did it serve. Thanks for opening some eyes but maybe a deeper discussion needs to be had.
Bless. She does touch on the African origins of the Jamaican language.
That part is available in the audio version of the reasoning. Full podcast will be available tomorrow. Give thanks !!
@@INEVERKNEWTV To my understand according to historical records and DNA science of genetics majority of Black Jamaicans come from group known as Akan people especially the Ashanti and Fanti kingdoms in Ghana who speak the Twi language. So Patois is mostly from Twi while the rest like Ibo & Yoruba of Nigeria, third group are Mandika who have city of Timbuktu in Mali while the Bakongo people are 4th largest from the Congo and Angola.
I definitely don't like the 'broken English' word sound. Diminishes the complexity of the language
Don't forget another big aspect of Jamaican and other Caribbean nations language is the "kissing of teeth" . This too is 100% of West African origins and a method of communication. It can express anger, disdain, impatience, exasperation, ridicule, mild rebuke or even self chastisement. It can only really be understood by people who use it as part of their culture. That is why some people who don't understand it automatically assume it is a personal insult. Some don't recognise it or even like it but it as important aspect of language too. It is present in many parts of west Africa and is very strong amongst the Igbo people and has been for thousands of years and was carried to Jamaica along with so many other things.
Did you know Vietnamese people also kiss there teeth for similar reasons? interestingly it is the case. I wasn't aware this came from the Igbo people but thank you for sharing that.
@@giovanniblack1818 I didn’t say it came exclusively from the Igbo people but it is extremely prominent among them. The Yoruba and other west African ethnicities have it as well. You will not find it in other parts of Africa eg Somalia or east Africa for example. I have never heard or seen a Vietnamese person do it (and I have met several) but I'll look out for it. Thanks
Mash up dem talk. Yep 😉
The man at the bottom looks like Jesus and the woman on the top left looks like the
virgin Mary.
We need to bring back kromanti
Thank you ❤
Same ting happens with Haitian Kwèyol and standard French.. Haitians prefer speaking Kwéyol among family and friends as opposes to French.
WOW! Powerful stuff! I'm Canadian and I'm a big fan of reggae music. I hope to visit some day...
Absolutely fascinating What's confusing why do people from Monsserratt and Antigua sound so similar to Jamaican accent especially monsserratt. Unless the British must have dropped off the rest of the same Clan of West African slaves that was taken to Jamaica to similar islands.
Ooooh I looooove me some Pati’o..... it is soooo sexy to hear a Jamaican man talk!!! 😬GoD...😌😌843 Baby💞🥰💞
brilliant!!
Yes, That is true there is so much disrespect towards the language by the current generation of Jamaicans it's really sad no one defends their national identity as our Language is by far one of if not the most important aspects that makes a Jamaican a Jamaican.
Check out mongrel nation by is Eddie izzard and you will overstand what I am trying to tell you
Da guy in da top right looks a little bit to me like Safaree but hes better looking then Safaree
For a more structured breakdown and well cited video is here: ua-cam.com/video/hNM-BE4xAyo/v-deo.html sorry for the cross post, just thought I’d leave this for anyone else desiring a more scholarly interpretation.
@Barnett. Thank You! I discovered the video at this URL several months ago, but had not made time to view the entire thing.
So back then u Ave man Horace ANDY sugar minott Leroy smart Frankie Paul Linval Thompson all of thses positive musicians now reggae music is devalued in the most degrading concept that's why we Ave strippers and vampire that divided the music
Some genuine black culture. Lizzo can eat her heart out
Yah dis film mek mi skin dem teeth
Respek from A Paley
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Where did English come from?
Such beautiful history 💯
🙄 not that African rhetoric again
So as a fully grown man that in is 50th so reggae music was just music dance all was describe as a venue where people go to dance so dance hall don't Ave no spifict music ba c k then what they do Ave was segments of reggae calypso and souls music now this go go music they call dance hall music its just ignorance
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Language is overrated
Love this! Give thanks