Security Stories 8 - The Truth About Doormen
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- Опубліковано 16 жов 2024
- A lot of people in the comments have been asking me to do a security stories episode on bouncers/doormen. Do they all have attitude problems? Are they all juiced up? Why do they do the job? Are they getting loads of girls? Well I answer these questions and things get pretty dark pretty quickly...
Don't forget this was true when I was doing security works back in the late 90s and 2000s.. Things have probably changed since then, or maybe not!
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Reminds me of the time when I was organising boxing matches. We had a big tournament and one of the guys pulled out last minute. The crowd was going crazy so I went out and saw this Arabic looking chap on the way to his first day at work. I asked if he could fight, and took his clothes off. He was wearing women's stockings but still beat 3 of the fighters in 20 mins and won the tournament. I saw him the next day and he says that his boss didn't believe what happened and got told off.
😅🤣😂
the best 😆
Took a Leb who worked with us on an highrise construction site . . for an afterhours trip to an drive inn movie . . was't a sex movie but heard this weird sound in passenger seat . . the dog was wanking himself with some kind of oil of stinking ulan . . said nothing . . pulled up wickets & drove the Arab fiend back to flat without a word . . silent trip back
Nice one 🤣😂🤣
Brilliant!
I love how based this guy is. My father often taught me lessons about strength and morality through telling stories from his past. He was kind, loving and gentle but I saw him beat the hell out of a younger, stronger man who threatened to hurt me (I was maybe 12 at the time) right in front of him. Rather than savoring his victory he felt terrible about losing his cool in front of me. To me his actions were heroic. I appreciate the sort of man our narrator is. Good on ya, sir. Great content.
Thanks! Your Dad sounds awesome.
Rock on, dad!
These stories keep getting better and better. Pure gold. Great analysis and insight in human behaviour 👍
Glad you like them!
Amen!
I was a doorman circa 2000 and would get people saying, 'I know such and such' and my attitude was the same as yours. However it wasn't always that easy because I didn't train with any 'names' I didn't know these people at all and just had to stand my ground. Real gangsters would come along and most times I managed except one time when things were looking really bad and I had to call my boss, the second in command of the company, a big hench guy, who came along and then let the bastards in. Totally folded. Made me look like an idiot and lose a lot of respect which is essential as a doorman. I did it for another few months and got out. Not professional, no propper back up. Dangerous
I saw that happen alot!
💯 allowing people like that to walk all over the help is very dangerous for everyone in the bar!
I used to live with two doormen in Bath. I didn't want to live with them, but at the time I really didn't have much of a choice. One of them ended up involved with the disappearance of a man -Donovan Van Lil. When they weren't working they seemingly spent all their time in the gym or cooking chicken breast in the kitchen. I did my utmost to avoid them, and I never had any friends round there.
This is 100% accurate. The biggest danger on the door was always not knowing who your working with. Only showed their colours when it goes pete tong.😂
100% man. I’ve been doing security for 10 years and it’s nice to hear from another reasonable person who sees the same things I do.
I myself work in a nightclub and found your videos really interesting to listen to. Your comments about SIA SECURITY made me laugh and you're largely right, all about keeping track of numbers so we don't exceed capacity and keeping the neighbours happy by keeping noise down and showing compliance to the local council.
We've got our team of regulars who are great people but whenever one of them is off, it's always quite a gamble who the agency will send. While it's true that they can't physically get involved, some have fantastic interpersonal skills and I feel we've got a good team (luckily we're not a rough and ready kind of place though).
Thank you for all your videos. The security stories are brilliant. Even better are your videos about street fighting and the awful reality of violence. I worked in clubs as a student in the early 2000s and the behaviour of some men (and women) opened my eyes to how cruel and savage humans can be. The advice you gave about avoiding certain places at certain times is 100% accurate.
Peace and happiness to you and your family mate 👍
Thank you bud. And to you and yours.
I dunno why this just popped into my head but I would 100% listen to this guy doing a full length commentary to the 80s movie Roadhouse, staying serious the whole way through and commenting on the realism etc. of each scene and relating it to things that happened during his own career. He'd have to comment on ALL the scenes though, not just the door work. Can this be the next video.
Ha that would be freaking awesome!
@@thatgearguyhaha this does sound like a grand idea but maybe it couldn't be on youtube due to copyright. But this maybe could be a grand bit of Patreon content?
cheers from York. just been rinsing through your videos today. great stuff!
@@thatgearguyreminds me of those insider imterviews ua-cam.com/video/IuGJ8k6lcOY/v-deo.html
You are a great storyteller. I have a close friend who has similar stories. He, as you, have kept your sanity through all the craziness you lived through.
Thanks!! 🤪
I'm a doorman and I love these videos You definitely have a book in there like Restaurant Confidential or something. I've only been doing it for 2 years and it truly is the strangest job I've ever had.
Channel is a goldmine!
Thanks!
I have been binge watching the videos that you produce and I must admit they are pure entertainment and common sense concerning human psychology. A worthwhile way to learn about what goes on behind the curtain of a person's mind from a perspective I never had a glimpse of. I just had to subscribe.
Thanks!
I have a comment. 20 years ago we worked in the strip club, you helped me out.
As you know I worked at some of the venues you mentioned and also nice middle class pubs near the pussyy, for the same money.
I always preferred Hove than West Street 😂
Your morals stood out even further back when we first met, you were an exception to most of the other doormen, and you are bang on about the walts, when I did fatboy for annie we had one turn up with a "battle bag 😂" ginge fucked him off.
Really nice vids. Keep em coming.
Think I'm sure I've got you moon walking at my wedding on a VHS somewhere 😂❤
Legend! I remember bud.
Very much the same as you mate,
I had a few simple rules while working the door.
No drink or drugs while working.
Don't get involved with girls in the club.
Treat everyone with respect until they misbehave.
ALWAYS back your lads up even when it looks like you're going to get smashed.
Like you I walked away because the job just seemed to start attracting all the wrong people.
Loving the stories, keep it up!
wdym by not getting involved with girls ?
The story story about the lying syrian took me back in time to when i was bouncing twenty years ago in Denmark. It reminded me of my boss, he was also a complete liar, amazing stories he came up with...😂 So funny thinking back about 😂
Your voice and articulation is perfect for these long form talk videos. Please keep making more
I needed a job when I left Vancouver and had done security work in university in the 90's and had to go through a course run by a great guy who was ex-Metropolitan Police and looked after VIP security for VPD. That, some experience working raves, and a friend's word helped land me a job at a small club/show bar in Montreal where most stuff could be resolved by talking to the person or talking down the situation. When we needed extra door staff for a more serious show (certain Hardcore bands) we hired some real professionals who taught me a few things. These guys were calm, easy going, able to resolve most situations without getting physical. I was lucky to have some good training back home and good examples in Montreal. I took that with me into concerts and other events, even jobs outside the field.
Dude that sausage story is one of the craziest ones I’ve ever heard my lord
Yeah it was pretty grim!
@@thatgearguy When you discovered that situation happening with your staff you must have been horrified. Like that's the craziest thing ever. Can you make a part 2 video on the craziest bouncer bullying stories you've seen? These guys sounded super creative with the hazing it's terrifying lol
Loving these stories!
Glad you like them!
I train at a boxing gym myself. Across the street from our gym is a ghetto bar that often gets a homeless, 300 lb plus, 6 foot guy to act as a pseudo doorman. He was in the gym once bragging that he knocked out a junkie causing trouble.
Sounds about right..
I was a restaurant manager in college. One night I went to a juke joint down the road, and there, working security was my dishwasher.
He was about 6'6" and hefty, but he was also mentally challenged.
Nice guy, but I still can't believe that they had him working security.
He had social and decision making issues, so that was a recipe for disaster.
So much respect for people like you! Tons of love! Stay safe brother 🙏🏼
I was a security guard, and started 20+ years ago. I only did office work and worked for Chubb and OCS. They wanted me to train to do door work but I never wanted to do that, after 2 years the big companies started to pull out of supplying door work in my city and this let in the smaller private sector to supply and they were bad news. The council had to step in and started to revoke the licences
Was on a night out once with some work colleagues and we got chatting to this bloke who looked like a doorman by his attire, but he was on his own in the bar. After a few beers he tells us he works CP and had just finished a job with a celeb client, and that the next week he was off to Iraq to do more CP. He then went on to tell us how he was in the FFL, which i know a bit about and it rapidly became apparent when i asked him about his service he was a walt. He then left saying he was off home, he got spotted about a hour later working the doors of a pub and tried to hide 😂😂. Just a pure walter mitty.
There were loads of those guys. Fake Mil careers that "they werent allowed to talk about"..
@@thatgearguy I don't understand why he felt the need to big time it. Most concerning was he had a good few pints before he went to work the doors, so was in no fit state to actually function in a security role at that time.
Where I live most of doorman are involved or are paid off for covering of the drug dealing in the clubs. I'm surprised you didn't touch on that subject. I was a nightlife photographer for 8 years and I also think dealers had a deal with the police because these clubs were never raided.
It definitely went on which I mention in the video. It just didnt happen with me so I have little experience of it.
It definitely does happen, seen it in my clubbing years
He talked about that before
Film producer Aaron Russo had a club and said police offered protection plans in which they would do fake raids to keep the public happy and bust no one
Men are brutal. That Syrian story is bonkers
I love the strong moral code that runs through your videos. Top guy!
I appreciate that!
You need to keep doing these stories they are amazing 👏
Glad you like them!
I've been doing doors in Canada and accidentally got into it as a part time job in school through a guy at my gym. Definitely true about dudes who come in and the first thing they say is "I can't wait to beat someone up tonight" etc etc but when shit goes down and they aren't students they are nowhere to be found
Best one yet. Thank you for posting this. 😀
It is now at a all time farcical low the SIA have made a joke out of competence.....and settled for inadequate.... making a night out a lot less safe... ( love how you deliver the truth )
Your channel is so interesting. 100k in no time.
Glad you think so!
Great film thanks pal i worked with a bloke who claimed he was running late because the met police commissioner had rang him personally to ask him to work undercover on counter terrorism 😂😂😂😂
Hey mate. Love these vids and was an Aussie bouncer for a few years.
A very tough job, hardly worth the money imo and your life is very much on the line.
Keep the vids coming mate.
Thx bud appeciate it and totally agree.
Used to do door work back in the 80s in Australia - anything went back then - lots of vicious thugs on doors who just wanted to punch heads - I got sick of that shit - not my bag to belt up drunks - about six of us then started doing private parties - much better gig - same crew of guys - better money just keeping gate crashers out of homes and halls. Dunno in UK, but in Oz store security at the big retail chains are told not to go hands on - mgmt are too scared of lawsuits or that employee could get injured and litigate - most all staff are told just get description of offender and if possible a license plate on a car. They’d rather write off stock loss then have legal headaches. Also now, lots of shoplifters are tooled up - no one wants to get stabbed to stop the theft of a pair of Adidas trainers. Enjoying your vids enormously - your observations and experiences are spot on with what I saw too
Thanks mate glad you enjoy the content!!
I live in a town where bar staff still get punched out regularly.
If only I were 20 years younger..
@@thatgearguy Yeah. They're total bottom feeders. I don't go near my locals unless it's for a meal & I live within 1km of 3 pubs & clubs.
I'm really happy that you kept doing these videos. Can't wait to hear more
The best one yet! I always imagined many working in clubland security would be of questionable character. This is not from any personal experience, just from my perspective it would appeal to those with a tendency to violence., IN GENERAL. I totally get that there are good doormen too, and personally I have not experienced any difficulties when visiting clubs.
Got to admit I doubt I could handle working a door, and certainly would not do it for the money you cited in the video.
Great insight into Dubai too, inspired me to visit in the near future.
Great content fella, please keep it coming.
Thanks, I will definitely keep the content rolling!
I was offered a job as a doorman in a chinese run pub in Oslo many years ago. I have no experience, there were not any other doormen there that. i could learn from either, so I respectfully turned the offer down.
However, later I got a job as a metro driver. We had security but they were kind of all over the system and never around when you needed them.
I had a few situationd I must have handled very well cause I solved the situations by either "fluffing my feathers" or calmly talked them out.
One day I stopped at a station and from the third car I see a guy flying out of the door, skipping a couple of times on the platform, kind of like a flat pebble you skip on the surface of a pond. I quickly vlosed the doors to separate the troublef makers and at the next station I walked back and asked what had happend so I could write a report on it.
At first no one said anything. Then this tiny and skinny looking guy said: "He was a pain in the ass to the girls here so I threw him off." And then the girls confirmed the story. I just gave him a pat on the shoulder said "good boy" and went back to driving.
Our society experiences less and less of those kind of guys. Unfortunately.
I keep being amazed in what kind of bizarre scenarios this guy has kept his peace and came out alive. A very grounded man and a fantastic storyteller
Thanks!
Just found your channel, i really like your stories. Definitely subbing now.
Welcome aboard!
Thank you for this. You are excellent at telling a story, held my attention for 30 minutes!
Thankyou for watching!
New video!
Great!
Keep them coming 👌🏻
Always worth tuning in here.....cheers!
20:00 yes, listen up people, this guy is telling mature truth.
Greetings from Texas. Loving the channel.
I'm from MS. I love this guy.
Thankyou Sir!
So, did those sausages go back in the freezer...eeww!
American and never been a club guy or a doorman, but your stories are great.
Thanks!
Another excellent episode. So glad I found your channel
Glad you enjoy it!
Really enjoying your channel recently as a new subscriber, keep up these types of videos mate.👍
Will do! Thx for watching!
Interesting what you say about security in shops doing nothing. I live in a rough(ish) part of town, and most of the larger shops have some dude by the door, never actually seen them stop anyone but maybe they function as a deterrent. Then one day I'm standing in the checkout queue and the cashier leaps from his chair like Usain Bolt and then tackles this guy about to walk out the door, basically gets him on the floor and grabs the stuff he'd just pinched. The dude then hightails it through the exit but as a parting shot kicks in the glass on the door. I was impressed that a minimum wage dude in a shop would tackle a shoplifter like that.
I worked at a stripclub as an “associate director “ aka manager. We had such little incident because of using our brains rather than brawn. On day one my boss told me that the best weapon in my arsenal was my phone. Our doormen were guys that nobody would be intimidated by - overweight, out of shape, old…..but we always got by with little incident because what we did do well was to invite local cops in - free door, free beers, and hooked them up as much as we could so on any given day there were off duty cops inside hanging out and on duty cops seemed to patrol extra around our club on busy nights.
The second thing we did well was to outprice most of the riff-raff…..you’d have to be a decently well-off individual to tie one on in the bar (and if you showed up already half pissed we’d just turn you away). The other local clubs had tons of shootings and stabbings in the parking lots and brawls - often involving (and unfortunately often instigated by) the doormen. We didn’t even call our doormen as such - their title was Courtesy Patrol.
So much of good security is having smart policies in place and well trained individuals and they had a number of employees that had been there 15-20 years.
It was the premier club in the city, a city known for the probably the most famous horse race in the world and Bourbon and a place where the bar stayed open until 4am which is a rarity in most places in the US with most cities closing at 2am. But we’d make it thru because it was well managed and he ran the club as a high end gentlmans club and never tried to live that fake Sopranos lifestyle…..it was more McDonald’s corporate franchise than mafia and all those rules and regulations worked well to make it a safe place for all the employees and most of the customers.
(The parent company was even traded on NASDAQ at one point)
So many good stories from those times but I wouldn’t wanna relive it because it really fucked up my views on reality for awhile - so much so after the job ended I sold everything I owned and moved to the other side of the world (at 27 years old) and restarted my life in Asia.
I'm around the same age as you are and my heavy drinking days are well behind me. I do occasionally go to the pub and very rarely have some really drunk guy get in my face looking to intimidate me or start a fight. I'm fine to just call it a night at that point and go home, but I'd be interested if you know any effective ways to de-escelate things or warning signs that a particular person is likely to be a trouble. I don't look tough and my last fight was in high school. Any tips for a regular guy to avoid trouble whilst keeping my dignity?
I will make a video as it is a long and complex topic.. stand by!
Is there security in the pub? Make friends with them. Let one know if you feel threatened. Watch your back outside though.
I did some door work around the late ninties. Can't say I can relate to alot of your stories.
In the UK?
Glad I'm not the only one who had issues on doors, nothing as bad as what you describe. Did have a female door say "we'll see who's got your back when you're getting your head kicked in" because I wouldn't be the slave and "make the tea's".
Knew a group of doormen who, if you weren't on their inner group of friends they would take the literal piss outta you, even joked about prior doorman being made to literally cry.
On the other side of that, known good doormen to. Knew guys not to mess with but they were awesome guys. One was a traveler, really great guy, very proactive but you didn't mess with him.
In the US you are not legally allowed to use force except in defense of self or another from imminent physical harm if you are working security (unless you are off-Duty LEO). Charges are pressed and you get fired. In the US the legal system and employers together make it impossible for security officers to do their job, and so that is why you have useless clip-board holders as "security".
Same with psychiatric techs (the nice new word for Orderlies) you used to be able to grab hold and even use closed fist strikes on violent and non-compliant persons in mental institutions. Now you are legally required to try to just hold them and stand there and take a beating. You cannot shove, push, hit, or do anything, just take a beating.
I personally chose to work behind the wall to get experience to later get on to a pd, it is very much still hands on, and injuries can be common depending on how things are going. 95% of the time you did not have to go hands on, and the other part of the time things could get pretty ugly pretty quickly. At least LEOs and PLEOs are allowed to use force and defend themselves.
Paul, your man that was winning boxing fights on the way to his shifts, casually working CP jobs for four figures per task and charging £900 an hour for airbrushing motorbikes….I think I’ve worked with him, his brothers, his cousins, his Dad and his uncles up and down the country for the past 3 decades. ;)
I also worked with a guy that was Michael Jackson’s PPO and threatened to kidnap Bubbles the chimp as there was a discrepancy in the invoice as well as leading a military coup in South America during his time in an SF unit on a deniable black ops number.
What’s the chances eh?
Ha I think I know MJs BG to!
@@thatgearguyAye, he gets about as well from what I’ve seen.
Clowns.
Your thinking is humane, and you do have empathy from the story of the Syrian bloke. It was beyond bullying point where they would have wanted to get those all together in one video for display to others. I’m not sure if you had this said before, but your thinking and the line of work you done is very similar to Laszlo Czibok who was also creating UA-cam content, but unfortunately he passed a few years ago. Thanks for these videos, a great value of decent thinking in the wild world we live in.
Thanks!
I did some bar security at a university bar / club a few times. On the few confrontations I saw with clientele, I noticed that the bouncers always wanted to start fights. Given that security need to back each other up, I wound up in some fights that didn't need to happen.
I also remember one concert where a guest was being escorted out of the venue, and the guest said something to the guard. The guard ended up punching the guest in the face, of which lead to the guard getting arrested and losing his license lol.
Security work in other settings (buildings, trade shows etc.) is fine, but the club / bar / event security are a different breed of security. If you're not into coworkers instigating fights, then i would stay away from the bouncing scene.
*Edits to make the post more clear.
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12:25 I can't express how much I hate people like this...
24:18 "depraved sausage stuff" 🤣🤣🤣🤣 (Wot would that be....🤔)
"Clipboard muppet" I love it.
There is another group of people that work in law enforcement and security because it is a job that does not require a college degree that is paid reasonably well and requires a low level of physical labor. It is also one of the few lines of work where, in the non-college world where you are given authority and the ability to make decisions.
The Mini-H!tlers as you call them seem to make up about 10% of most security staff. The corrupt and criminal are also another minority. Most people just want decent pay and low labor. However at places that get a worse reputation have become more dangerous the Mini-H!tlers and corrupt staff tend to be a larger portion of the staff.
This I never knew of doormen. From what you’re describing many of these guys are closeted homosexuals. I wonder how many in law enforcement harbor the same feelings.
Have you got the Syrian chap’s CV to hand? He sounds a keeper!
I always find that most Men in general (Who act like the Bouncers you knew) are usually in the closet. I used to DJ every Saturday Night on Vinyl with a (ex) Friend. Because I wasn't sleazy around Women and had no interest in one night stands or being a creep,this ex friend would always make comments like "This is why you never have any success with Women,because you're too nice and they think you're a shirt lifter" Some years down the line and I found out a certain someone came out of the closet...
Man ..pork products really took some abuse in this one
😅🤣😂
You encounter some of the worst people doing this job, colleagues and customers. Its important if you're going to do it, make sure you trust your team and you have each others back. When you're with mates and all genuinely good at the job and well rounded, acting as a unit, it works, and you can get a good rate. Wouldn't do it anymore otherwise. Not worth it.
Would love to see a video on de-escalation, your philosophy and experiences
I don't like these schoolyard cyber bullying nonsense and shenanigans, and I never understood how a grown man would waste his time creating fake profiles to mess with anyone, regardless of who they are. Either be an adult and have your conflict with him frontally if you must, or don't do it at all.
That being said I laughed way more than I should have at the bacon bit lol
@@alexsm3882 it was pretty weird!
Very insightful content, thank you!
You tell great stories 👍
Glad you like them!
I worked around 5 6 years in clubs, but liked pubs more to be honest. More relaxed and worked alone. One clubowner was an idiot, didnt wanna pay over extra hours and he knew it all , so only worked there 2 nights.
I quit working cause of more regulations, less "black" money (paying cash,not officially)
All these regulations nowadays they cant find good doormen these days, also alot of guys who lost their license due to a fight...
I quitted around 2014, know some bars or club owners hired guys inscribed as "bartender" or just 2 guys official at the door and 2 unofficial who worked in the back if problems arrived...
Cheers
I got into security because it was a flexible second job. I didn't find out about the girls until after I started doing it, the girls are a great bonus
I have done security work but never in licensed premises. I do not have enough padding if a brawl happens.!
Jaco Pastorius brilliant musician murdered by a doorman.
Love these stories
I think men become doormen because they dont have any other choices, and they're a bit lazy. For many its either work in moving, construction, or... doormen
In the 90's in Newcastle enough of the doormen were violent enough for it to be a problem and for them to have a bad rep with public.
Then at one point one of the top guys who ran all the doors got whacked and for a while it was like a war between doormen groups which i think innocent civilians got caught out in.
My mate back them got into doors more or less as a way to get into the underworld and organised crime. Ended up a good fighter, roided up and being in the criminal world and making good off book money, so worked out well i guess.
Note he wasnt from that life, he literally became a doorman because he wanted an in. Like a calculated career step towards organised crime.
Newcastle? Guess that explains the "Norman the Doorman" and other unflattering caricatures in "Viz".
The best blagger I knew of turned up late, and then claimed that he only came at all because the company begged him and offered him triple time.
He genuinely became head doorman, due to the sheer force of his charisma and lies. He ignored the door and was a 'social butterfly'.
Somehow he got involved in a kick off and was knocked over, and his rep was rather ruined when he was rolling around on his back like a turtle, unable to get up (he was severely obese lol)
28:40.
Again, Mutuals.
Fair play.
I know I said RESPECT a lot today.. it is meant wholeheartedly.
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Thank you bud. Much appreciated!
Great episode!
Thanks!
I use too work the doors i found that the vase majority were pretty crap too put it politely i wasnt the biggest guy but i thought whenni was jumping in and stopping fights i thought i was doing a good deed i wasnt the best for talking but (wothout sounding big headed) i was quite good at the kick off and protecting people. I dont work the doors now. i am currently in the army and enjoying life, but i don't really go out these days as i am always worried. i am going to end up getting involved or sticking up for my friends, but i mostly just focus on my fitness and martial arts, which i am happy to do. Good video, very interesting too listen 😊have a nice day.
Thank you for your service. Have a great weekend.
@@thatgearguy thank you very much have a great day.
Finally found a bouncer who is as autistic as me! Rules should apply to everyone, and if they don't, whats the point of having laws in the first place?
Man, lucky me I've been avoiding the club scene. Dealing with such nonsense is not worth the trouble to get to know women - you can also meet them elsewhere.
Gear just exasperates your traits, imo... Then there's tren which should only be administered to soldiers going into battle
Late 80s,on the door,snooker centre Basingstoke pre SIA etc.
Like the film Roadhouse,was complete bedlam:/
A narrow end of a pool cue can be a nasty stabbing weapon.
Whats your real chistain name mate?
Don't mind if you don't wanna say.
Been watching this series allday.
Attension. [yes I know my spelling is a bit bad sometimes. &, ironically there is a copy of the Oxford within arms reach.]
My Mum's husband was a doorman, taxi too.
Got some funny storys. Like that time he was chasing someone down the stairs, tripped and rolled.. straight through the door.
😂 but true.
He is a big lad.
Not like my 1st dad.
He was the one starting on the pier.
Viscous little c nut.
[taught me how to 🤜 though. dont aim for the face, aim about a foot behind his head.
Used to hold the yellow pages over his chest "hitme!hitme! You cant hurt me Mart"
That was some great incuraragement. The next thing he said was OW, as I hit the book so hard he almost dropped it.
Ah, good ol' days.
I'd work the door taking count and money for shows my friend promoted. Dear God, it's a headache, people on the "list" holding up the line. "Friends" of the owner.
Band "management" with an entourage of 10+.
Got in fight with 2 security guys, they got fired that night.
Interesting video as ever being a female veteran who worked with all guys as an aircraft mechanic. I never once in my life had problem with a doorman in fact I helped a few out while serving in the forces by calming situations down (you know what forces guys could be like drunk). I had to stand my ground and in fact intervene on occasion. There was one instance of similar to what you described re sausage but it was a stick. I wasn't there when it occurred and it was on base. Another one I read in the monthly Queen regulations a guy was killed by an inner CO2 gas inner fire extinguisher cartridge being shoved up a guys bum.
However Hazing did occur and was normal and I would allow fun and banter to a level and having a laugh playing tricks etc to defused situations and it could be very healthy for the crew and moral to a level as long as one did not let it get too far.
It was normal to see porn pictures on the crew room walls but hay ho that's what it was like in the 1980s. Now it's way to politically correct crap and it would have driven me nuts if still in . I would have been in trouble as I stand my ground on issues and I don't suffer fools gladly.
My marshal art background was most certainly necessary and I did have a couple of fights to protect myself and I would fight to the death so I would never give in, which seemed to put nasty guys off trying or they only tried once. I sorted a couple of guys outs who I would have been quite happy dealt with in a more permanent way given the right opportunity. One of which raped my friend. I was ready for this prick but he never tried anything with me, I would have flattened him. I had a really good standing with the guys and did my job and would be helpful to support other guys and they in turn generally were great with me and often said your one of the guys, meaning they respected me. They used to come to me for an ear to talk to as they knew they could trust me and So I became a very young agony aunt really. It would have been much more difficult in the army but RAF most guys are not trained to fight in the same level.
Thanks for your comment. You should make a video!
@@thatgearguy I was just thinking I could do a video actually although `I go way down the rabbit hole but a video on this subject good Idea thanks :)
Great stories. In early mid 200s I visited this one bar regularly - one security there- 170cm would say, Not bulky but lean (hollow cheeks) , spoke not loud to troublemaklers. But sth. in his eyes or aura that the troublemakers cooperate when he wanted them to leave or obey to another request from him. Did you encounter such indviduals as well?
Yes. I believe men have a subtle intuition when it comes to judging other mens capability for violence. Not skill but ability to be violent. Some guys exude this aura. It works a lot of the time.
They let you touch in Tulsa.
I m from the US and I have read stories of security in the UK punching people first when a person refuses to leave an establishment. I thought you had to grab them and try to move the person out and not just go directly to hitting.
Great stories.
Do you think we are past a peak of bar/club culture? Here in New Zealand at least, Millenials and Gen Z are much more insular, less outgoing, less likely to go to bars+clubs. I guess in the UK pub culture is quite embdedded in the culture and you have some pubs/taverns there older than NZ or the USA.
I do. Even in the UK pubs struggle now. Those that do well are normally food based trading. Drinks prices being so high certainly didnt help.
From what ive seen personally and i myself am inculded, a lot of door man accidentally get into being a doorman. I was unemployed and was offered a free sia course. Took it, then less than a month later I seen a job advertise. Was only suppose to only be for a few month now I'm pretty much stuck there lol.
Absolutely spot on with the bully type. Worked with plenty of guys who love to brag about how they knock out everyone and they arent afraid of no one and they throw they weight around with young uni students but when it came to people who look like they can handle themself, they bottle it.
I've also noticed as well with larger security firms they tend to employ asians and nigerians. I think its due to high turn over rate of the job type. We had this one nigerian guy who was a nightmare. He was always late, he was always creepy towards female bar staff and young customers coming in. He would often go home for almost an hour as in his words he needs to take a shit and doesn't like the publicly toilets. And like with the bullies, he loves to throw his weight around with young uni students or really old people. Yet when shit hit the fan he was no where to be seen.
When you do the job right, It is respected.
I know you are a bit pished with boisinblue.
But I think there is mutual for the folks who do it right.
A good talker doesn't need to use his fists either.
Just hold up the 2 guys following you, who want to kick your mate, for I don't know what he said.
Whispering over my shoulder.
"Oi, you lot.. just get in the taxi."
Sometimes me a the Mrs just go and lean on the railings on pier, and watch the Doors turning pisheads away. It is quite amusing.
Sometimes people come back ten minutes later and try to get in again 😂
Of course we always say cheers to the staff, even when just walking past the pub.
I used to work for southern trains. Security and health & safety. Gateline, checking tickets and making sure you get through the gate alright. Oh and planning your journeys for you?.
Was almost a few srapes there.
He comes up..
"I aint gotta ticket."
"Well.. 🤔 Go buy one then."
"Aint got no money neither."
"Well I suggest you hop on a bus then. Now f off."
"You not allowed to say that to me!"
"Actually, I think if you ask my super, you'll find that I can."
"Come out here and say it then."
"(Roolleyes..). Okay then."
I open the barrier, step out, cross my arms.
Hes walking quickly out the station.
And the other side of the job is safeguarding. One time in Chi, a lady came though.. stood on the platform for a few mins, looking at me a bit stangley.
Then she sits on the edge and dangles her legs over.
Me run straight over.
"Come on luv. You can't do that. The next train is going to have your legs off."😢
"Maybe thats what I want." She says.
Straight on the radio.. guys we got a jumper, platform one.
Four guys there within 10 seconds dragged her away.
Sometimes a little force is appropriate.
Good afternoon and evenings.
A lot of gangsters used security to wash their money
I got into doorwork through my dad
From my observations 90 percent of university students working as security in licensed premises were totally unreliable in a brawl. Some Sikhs were great.
If you enjoy meeting people this is a great short term career option. I figure you're retired by 35.
I really enjoy your content and can relate personally to the majority of what you post. My personal experience of steroids and that of my friends is that when one is so invested in training and nutrition and particularly when on a course, you’re generally happier with your lifts and what you see in the mirror; and it usually leads to a better temperament and being less easily irritated. On the flipside, I’ve met plenty of d1ckh*ads who then took steroids. In which case they just became bigger, stronger, more confident d1ckhe*ds.
Completely agree. I saw a lot of guys who were not dedicated lifters. They were party boys who thought protein = extra pepperoni topping. They would run gear and take rec drugs. Then act like total idiots. On the other hand dedicated gym guys were disciplined and pretty evenly tempered.