Love the way you guys operate... I would suggest you to watch sailing GBU they had some great job done on their boat and the guy there is very skilled with wood work
Try a general thinners for removing the foam. It will soften the stubborn foam & or dissolve it (messy goo) use only metal or glass containers for work pot & metal scrapers to remove foam from the surface & clean old rags for cleaning off residue glue the cleaner the better. Dispose of waste in non flammable containers & Yes it will have an odour all of its own until it dries (very quick drying time so don’t dally) you may prefer to ware a proper respirator open vent hatch & wear chemical resistant gloves, you could wear one of those disposable overalls but remember you are working in a small area & you will be sweating, by a factor of 10 wearing one of those. I know it sounds a bit of a process but once you get started it will happen quite fast & your hull will be ready for what come next as the thinners will leave no residue. 🖖🇳🇿😎
Insulate, ventilate. That is after all leaks have been taken care of. Use a good marine insulation and provide constant ventilation when the doors are closed. Fans built into the lockers work well because the lockers need ventilation insulation as well as the forepeak. Every closed space needs to be ventilated.
Once you source the leaks and repair them, be sure to keep air moving at all times in that forward berth. Fans and dehumidifiers should help tremendously .
Yeah we’re going to be sure to have air circulation in there! But once we head south, the hatch will be open much more often to let a breeze in as well!
I would venture to say, whether you know it or not (you did mention it), but you keep the door closed and there is "NO" air circulation at all in the front section. I would recommend that you install two small openings between the main area and the front to circulate the air with the main part of the boat. One of the openings near the ceiling and one near the floor (natural convection). A small 5' computer fan (uses hardly any power) and mounted in one of the openings and running during the day (solar powered), would be sufficient to circulate the air. Had the same issue in our RV. Eliminated the mold issue. Good luck with your projects.
I would be investigating where the leaks are, and repair them before reinstalling your interior. Otherwise you'll have more of the same. Stanchion bases, bulwark fittings, and through deck fittings would be a good place to start.
Absolutely agree! Please, please, please, find and fix any and all leaks before going any further with your project. If not you might be doing it all again in 6 months!
I’d suggest for a long term solution to the build up of Mold to: -Ozone treat the bow stateroom and add a 12 volt dehumidifier on a timer and raise the cushions and all the openings inside. -The ozonator will splay open and kill the fungal spores however it will slowly degrade rubber that the ozone generator treats. -There’s a method to ozone treat so research a proper way. Cheers
I love the interior layout of JibSea. I also like the idea you have for the forpeak, it will make your living space even more functional. Also getting rid of the mold and clearing up the moisture problem is a must. Travis, I watched you make those dinghy chaps with no prior experience and, as a retired sailmaker, I can say you did an excellent job. I don't think you'll have any problems making the forpeak something you'll both be proud of. Can't wait to see how it turns out.
Moved our boat from the Med to the UK 7 years back, (Mad I know). But I am now an expert on avoiding condensation after 6 years of experimenting. I had a strong motivation as the wife refused even be onboard in the colder months. So here's my 6 years worth of "fixing" the problem. First the easy bits, remove all panelling as you are doing in the v-berth, insulate above the waterline with 15-20mm thick closed cell foam, anything less than 15mm and you will get condensation. Or you could use 12mm Armacell Armaflex, expensive but is the best from my testing. I started using the same stuff they used in RV's but in some places there was not enough space so this is where I used the Armacell. I have insulated below the waterline in some places where condensation was persistent, but in tried to avoid this for the obvious reasons. Now the tricky parts, behind anything you cant remove, here I used spray insulating foam, the choice is tricky so test first. In some places where heating ducting was passing through I used the fireproof foam just in case. This was a long messy job using long tubes, pilot holes and a lot of bad language. Tip, do not use too much or some brands will bend the headliner, not enough and you will get gaps. Now the windows are tricky, in our case we have large salon windows which drip excessively overnight. I some cases I used the simple secondary double glazing "cling film", cheap and effective. Not words you often see together in boating. Where you can't fit cling film try the lining they use on RV's, we only do this when it's below freezing. And finally run a dehumidifier to keep the humidity below 60-70% tops. The last cold spell I stayed onboard, it was -5c outside, 22c inside and we had no condensation. Admit I did feel smug, it was worth the effort.
I have two pieces of advice for you: 1. Go to a paint store that also sells stain and have them match the stain on your woodwork and the process. I have confidence in your skills. You guys are sharp and can master these skills. (Light sand and very clean of dust before staining). Water resistant wood is expensive though. 2. Newer boats often have something called Headliner (with or without foam) on the ceilings and some walls. You can purchase this and other boat finish supplies from Sailrite. I have never used this stuff. Thanks for the great videos.
Amazing, this video really shows you both taking on the forecastle project with determination and vigor. Can't wait to see the end result, which will be awesome when completed.
Great video, especially for non boat people to see the real picture. My barry is on the ma Tai and has just gone through the cyclone in here in nz, and is now dealing with leaky windows and hatches before sailing back to the states. Good luck with the work, measure twice cut once. Best wishes from nz.
Hi guys before you do anything else wash and spray the boat in there with cupper sulphate which is used to kill the mold and disinfect . You can find this at pool supply store swimming pool chemicals. 20 percent concentration will do the job. It will be a bit bluish in color but the mold won't grow back. Do not rinse it out after use. Wash it in process with chlorine too and final apply that solution copper sulphate. Good luck with the job
My suggestion, having done what you are doing to my Hunter, is to NOT glue foam to the hull. You can see what results this provides. Not good!. . What we did is glass some thin wood to the hull and use 1/4 inch solid foam panels unglued to the hull and then used what's called 'ceilings' (thin wood strips), stained them on the dock or on land and then used shallow screws to the glased in wood. Voila‼️‼️ Stopped the condensation 100% and really quieted the hill.
Mold is a must to get rid of , very unhealthy. So its a great time to find any leaks, demold, and redo the v-berth area ....cannot wait to see the results.
I agree! A dehumidifier is warranted! The unit creates heat each time it runs, which is also good... But you will need to check your solar and battery capacity and add to it, if necessary. Or maybe a diesel heater is needed ... but the heater cannot run except when you are aboard... A small dehumidifier seems more appropriate😄.
Wow you guys! you knocked that out pretty quickly, im sure it wasnt really that quick but it sure looked like it. Im stoked to see what your going to come up with, space on a boat is expensive real-estate, anything you can do to make that space work for you is awsome. I love watching ideas come to life! looking forward for updates on patreon
If it was me, now you have the forepeak exposed, I would get a high pressure hose on the outside and with someone inside watching for leaks, I would blast all of the deck fittings including stanchion bases, around the windless, and anywhere with a screw going into the deck.. 30 yr old sealant may have turned chalky allowing water in. I liked the idea of a solar vent in the hatch for ventilation. Putting slats under the squab may aid ventilation also The trick is to keep the water on the outside. What does the bottom of the chain locker look like ? Take out all of the chain and have a poke around down there with screwdriver looking for softness. Some anchor locker drain holes get blocked over time holding water in this space. Sorry for the ramble.😊
When the other half has an idea it means 18 hour days for you. Make sure there are lots of cold beers to get you through the the evening. Because another 18 hour day is not far away. Have fun. HAHA
Avoiding air humidity condensation point isn't all about insulation. Main obstacle is how to avoid movement of air between areas below floor boards and the living compartment. In the bow the volume below the bed is part of that area and that is where most air gets chilly and then start air movement by absorbing warm moist air from above forcing a release of humidity when air moves ever so slow along surfaces and through gaps where ever they are.
Use Tea Tree Oil to prevent mold and mildew from coming back in that cabin. Tea Tree oil is an essential oil and is very effective as a mold mildew preventer. Put 30 drops into a spray bottle, with the rest being water. Shake up good. Spray over the surface you're concerned about. Will last for years. Give it a try:-)
Really search for leaks and fix them before starting rebuild! Lots of the usual culprits can leak after 20 plus years of sailing. Its going to look good when done and probably be a lot more useful. Carry on!
I BEENING FOLLOW YOUR CHANEL FOR SOME TIME... IT IS GREAT THE WAY YOU PRESENT AND SHARE YOUR THOUGHTS.... REALLY APPRECIATE... IF I CAN GIVE AN IDEA.... ( MAYBE A GOOD ONE, TO MAKE A SHOCK WALL IN FRONT .... I AM NOT SURE ABOUT THE BOAT MODEL AND ABOUT THE CHAIN LOOCKER... - YOU CAN TAKE SOME IDEAS IN THE GGR 2022 PREPARATION BOATS ) IT IS A GREAT FEATURE FOR THE SECURITY OF THE BOAT... THE IDEA OF MAKING A STORAGE COMPARTMENT IS FANTASTIC.... GOOD LUCK... 👍 FAIR WINDS AND MY KIND REGARDS..... 🌷🍾🥂.... CHEERS.....
Great job. Kill that mold. My Hunter 44 had a mold problem (GenSet exhaust elbow leaked for 3-4hrs of operation before I️ noticed. Unfortunately, the diesel exhaust blew into the bilge for that few hours and mold loves diesel soot-black mold grew. Easy to kill in bilge-Impossible to get into all the voids to clean. Many people find that the more mold you’re exposed to over time, the worse your body reacts. Please wear N95 masks and kill that stuff!
Should look good. Take your time and do your research on what people have done in regards to insulation techniques and materials. Please get rid of the trick bike. Someday you may get injured and not be able to continue. Toys from younger days must go….lol.
Figure out how to reuse the bed that you have than it will look like it belongs. Save the finish wood work, and modify what you have to do what you want. It will look good if you think it out and execute.
if it is just 2 people on a boat then remodel it for just 2 people and forget the guests because living on a boat laid out to sleep 320 is going to make a couple feel cramped and claustrophobic and turn them off for living aboard , i had a 57 foot motor yacht that i had totally remodeled the interior for just two people
I take you do not what me to call you, somebody is messing with the channel PLease take note also get telegram ones. Need to tell all. Fair winds calm seas.
That reply to your comment wasn’t made by our account but made to look like it was since it had the same profile photo as ours. I blocked that user so all their comments have been removed from the replies they made to comments in our video. Thanks for looking out
@@SailingJibsea Hope I was helpful, it is happening a lot at the moment on different sail youtubers So please spread the word to all the others you ken. Fair winds calm seas.
Hi, I wonder if your UA-cam channel was hacked? I received a UA-cam notification with the following message "Thanks for watching and commenting. Contact the number above (I omitted the number) for INTERACTION on calming your prize. you are among the shortlisted winners from..... Don
I believe that was a comment by a user/bot with a handle of “text …-……..” It wasn’t our account but made to look like it was since it had the same profile photo as ours. I blocked that user so all their comments have been removed from the replies they made to comments in our video. Thanks for looking out for us.
Get some bar b que charcoal and open the bags leave them in that room and it will absorb the smells.
#1. Put a solar vent into the v-birth hatch. Generally watertight, and changes the air all the time the sun is out. 😊
Love the way you guys operate... I would suggest you to watch sailing GBU they had some great job done on their boat and the guy there is very skilled with wood work
Try a general thinners for removing the foam. It will soften the stubborn foam & or dissolve it (messy goo) use only metal or glass containers for work pot & metal scrapers to remove foam from the surface & clean old rags for cleaning off residue glue the cleaner the better. Dispose of waste in non flammable containers & Yes it will have an odour all of its own until it dries (very quick drying time so don’t dally) you may prefer to ware a proper respirator open vent hatch & wear chemical resistant gloves, you could wear one of those disposable overalls but remember you are working in a small area & you will be sweating, by a factor of 10 wearing one of those. I know it sounds a bit of a process but once you get started it will happen quite fast & your hull will be ready for what come next as the thinners will leave no residue. 🖖🇳🇿😎
Insulate, ventilate. That is after all leaks have been taken care of. Use a good marine insulation and provide constant ventilation when the doors are closed. Fans built into the lockers work well because the lockers need ventilation insulation as well as the forepeak. Every closed space needs to be ventilated.
Be Safe working with mold. Take your time in doing it right. From New Port Richey, FL
It's fine removing paneling. It's getting it back in there again that is the challenge.
Once you source the leaks and repair them, be sure to keep air moving at all times in that forward berth. Fans and dehumidifiers should help tremendously .
Yeah we’re going to be sure to have air circulation in there! But once we head south, the hatch will be open much more often to let a breeze in as well!
Cut a whole in the door to the berth, and put a grill over it. That will allow the moisture to come out of the berth.
@SailingJibsea342 Piss off troll
I would venture to say, whether you know it or not (you did mention it), but you keep the door closed and there is "NO" air circulation at all in the front section. I would recommend that you install two small openings between the main area and the front to circulate the air with the main part of the boat. One of the openings near the ceiling and one near the floor (natural convection). A small 5' computer fan (uses hardly any power) and mounted in one of the openings and running during the day (solar powered), would be sufficient to circulate the air. Had the same issue in our RV. Eliminated the mold issue. Good luck with your projects.
I would be investigating where the leaks are, and repair them before reinstalling your interior. Otherwise you'll have more of the same. Stanchion bases, bulwark fittings, and through deck fittings would be a good place to start.
Copy that, and don't forget the deck to hull flange and all the fasteners.
Absolutely agree! Please, please, please, find and fix any and all leaks before going any further with your project. If not you might be doing it all again in 6 months!
Absolutely,on a boat that age the fore deck core should be sounded as well.Don’t shy away from having a professional survey done.
Be sure to check for leaks in deck while ur at it
water can be a funny foe
If you could run a dehumidifier that would certainly help dry things out.
I second the comment below. Geta a dehumidifier!
Love your videos, thank you for sharing.
Thanks for watching!
Looking good you two ❤ from 🇨🇦
Thanks guys!❤️ 🇨🇦
I’d suggest for a long term solution to the build up of Mold to:
-Ozone treat the bow stateroom and add a 12 volt dehumidifier on a timer and raise the cushions and all the openings inside.
-The ozonator will splay open and kill the fungal spores however it will slowly degrade rubber that the ozone generator treats.
-There’s a method to ozone treat so research a proper way.
Cheers
I love the interior layout of JibSea. I also like the idea you have for the forpeak, it will make your living space even more functional. Also getting rid of the mold and clearing up the moisture problem is a must. Travis, I watched you make those dinghy chaps with no prior experience and, as a retired sailmaker, I can say you did an excellent job. I don't think you'll have any problems making the forpeak something you'll both be proud of. Can't wait to see how it turns out.
Thank you so much!
Good start… ✅👍👏👌🥳
Thanks 😆
Moved our boat from the Med to the UK 7 years back, (Mad I know). But I am now an expert on avoiding condensation after 6 years of experimenting. I had a strong motivation as the wife refused even be onboard in the colder months.
So here's my 6 years worth of "fixing" the problem.
First the easy bits, remove all panelling as you are doing in the v-berth, insulate above the waterline with 15-20mm thick closed cell foam, anything less than 15mm and you will get condensation. Or you could use 12mm Armacell Armaflex, expensive but is the best from my testing. I started using the same stuff they used in RV's but in some places there was not enough space so this is where I used the Armacell.
I have insulated below the waterline in some places where condensation was persistent, but in tried to avoid this for the obvious reasons.
Now the tricky parts, behind anything you cant remove, here I used spray insulating foam, the choice is tricky so test first. In some places where heating ducting was passing through I used the fireproof foam just in case. This was a long messy job using long tubes, pilot holes and a lot of bad language. Tip, do not use too much or some brands will bend the headliner, not enough and you will get gaps.
Now the windows are tricky, in our case we have large salon windows which drip excessively overnight. I some cases I used the simple secondary double glazing "cling film", cheap and effective. Not words you often see together in boating.
Where you can't fit cling film try the lining they use on RV's, we only do this when it's below freezing. And finally run a dehumidifier to keep the humidity below 60-70% tops.
The last cold spell I stayed onboard, it was -5c outside, 22c inside and we had no condensation. Admit I did feel smug, it was worth the effort.
Sounds like you’ve got it dialed. Thanks for sharing all of that!
I have two pieces of advice for you: 1. Go to a paint store that also sells stain and have them match the stain on your woodwork and the process. I have confidence in your skills. You guys are sharp and can master these skills. (Light sand and very clean of dust before staining). Water resistant wood is expensive though. 2. Newer boats often have something called Headliner (with or without foam) on the ceilings and some walls. You can purchase this and other boat finish supplies from Sailrite. I have never used this stuff. Thanks for the great videos.
Amazing, this video really shows you both taking on the forecastle project with determination and vigor. Can't wait to see the end result, which will be awesome when completed.
thanks, us too!
One day you will look back fondly and be rewarded for all your efforts.
Have Another Best Day Ever!
~Mark
You are doing fine, you will see, it is going to be great, i am sure of it. Do not worry, you have the talent to do this. Cheers
Thanks for believing in us!😁
Great video, especially for non boat people to see the real picture.
My barry is on the ma Tai and has just gone through the cyclone in here in nz, and is now dealing with leaky windows and hatches before sailing back to the states.
Good luck with the work, measure twice cut once.
Best wishes from nz.
Good luck on getting your project done! Hopefully you get the boat completely ready for next season!
That's the plan! Thank you
Hi guys before you do anything else wash and spray the boat in there with cupper sulphate which is used to kill the mold and disinfect . You can find this at pool supply store swimming pool chemicals. 20 percent concentration will do the job. It will be a bit bluish in color but the mold won't grow back. Do not rinse it out after use. Wash it in process with chlorine too and final apply that solution copper sulphate. Good luck with the job
Thanks for the tips!
My suggestion, having done what you are doing to my Hunter, is to NOT glue foam to the hull. You can see what results this provides. Not good!.
.
What we did is glass some thin wood to the hull and use 1/4 inch solid foam panels unglued to the hull and then used what's called 'ceilings' (thin wood strips), stained them on the dock or on land and then used shallow screws to the glased in wood. Voila‼️‼️ Stopped the condensation 100% and really quieted the hill.
Good luck with your new boat build.
thanks!
Mold is a must to get rid of , very unhealthy. So its a great time to find any leaks, demold, and redo the v-berth area ....cannot wait to see the results.
Good luck. Sure it will look great
Fingers crossed! Thank you!
I agree! A dehumidifier is warranted! The unit creates heat each time it runs, which is also good... But you will need to check your solar and battery capacity and add to it, if necessary. Or maybe a diesel heater is needed ... but the heater cannot run except when you are aboard... A small dehumidifier seems more appropriate😄.
Wow you guys! you knocked that out pretty quickly, im sure it wasnt really that quick but it sure looked like it. Im stoked to see what your going to come up with, space on a boat is expensive real-estate, anything you can do to make that space work for you is awsome. I love watching ideas come to life! looking forward for updates on patreon
we're working quick, eye on the prize!!
If it was me, now you have the forepeak exposed, I would get a high pressure hose on the outside and with someone inside watching for leaks, I would blast all of the deck fittings including stanchion bases, around the windless, and anywhere with a screw going into the deck.. 30 yr old sealant may have turned chalky allowing water in.
I liked the idea of a solar vent in the hatch for ventilation. Putting slats under the squab may aid ventilation also
The trick is to keep the water on the outside. What does the bottom of the chain locker look like ? Take out all of the chain and have a poke around down there with screwdriver looking for softness. Some anchor locker drain holes get blocked over time holding water in this space. Sorry for the ramble.😊
When the other half has an idea it means 18 hour days for you. Make sure there are lots of cold beers to get you through the the evening. Because another 18 hour day is not far away. Have fun. HAHA
Avoiding air humidity condensation point isn't all about insulation. Main obstacle is how to avoid movement of air between areas below floor boards and the living compartment. In the bow the volume below the bed is part of that area and that is where most air gets chilly and then start air movement by absorbing warm moist air from above forcing a release of humidity when air moves ever so slow along surfaces and through gaps where ever they are.
An oscillating tool makes short work of that foam and they are not expensive. Good luck with the project!!!
oh just you wait! 😆 thanks Dan
Certainly are aware of products you can just place in a moist area to suck up humidity and moisture
baken soda vinear n lynseed oil..vinegar kills mold n baken sodakills te smelln lynseed for the wood
i watch a whole LOT of sailing channels!
and i can really say,
u 2 are on my top fav list!
Wow, thank you! means so much to us
Did you find the leaks ?
Use Tea Tree Oil to prevent mold and mildew from coming back in that cabin. Tea Tree oil is an essential oil and is very effective as a mold mildew preventer. Put 30 drops into a spray bottle, with the rest being water.
Shake up good. Spray over the surface you're concerned about. Will last for years. Give it a try:-)
Really search for leaks and fix them before starting rebuild! Lots of the usual culprits can leak after 20 plus years of sailing. Its going to look good when done and probably be a lot more useful. Carry on!
You can never cram enough stuff into the V berth.
Very true😂
Thanks for sharing ....but you should wear a mask when you're dealing with mold ..... just saying ...
Another great video
Thanks again!
Hi Guys
Are you in Belfast?
My boat (Thunderbird II)is in Carrickfergus.
Love the channel.
Davy
Do me a favour add the new forward bedroom pictures to sailboatlistings so I can have a look.
I BEENING FOLLOW YOUR CHANEL FOR SOME TIME... IT IS GREAT THE WAY YOU PRESENT AND SHARE YOUR THOUGHTS.... REALLY APPRECIATE... IF I CAN GIVE AN IDEA.... ( MAYBE A GOOD ONE, TO MAKE A SHOCK WALL IN FRONT .... I AM NOT SURE ABOUT THE BOAT MODEL AND ABOUT THE CHAIN LOOCKER... - YOU CAN TAKE SOME IDEAS IN THE GGR 2022 PREPARATION BOATS ) IT IS A GREAT FEATURE FOR THE SECURITY OF THE BOAT... THE IDEA OF MAKING A STORAGE COMPARTMENT IS FANTASTIC.... GOOD LUCK... 👍 FAIR WINDS AND MY KIND REGARDS..... 🌷🍾🥂.... CHEERS.....
This is not condensation. You must have leaks from above.
Awesome, I can't wait to see the finish 😀
Every boat needs a de-humidifier.
Travis, how do you keep those guns in shape on the boat??
Great job. Kill that mold. My Hunter 44 had a mold problem (GenSet exhaust elbow leaked for 3-4hrs of operation before I️ noticed. Unfortunately, the diesel exhaust blew into the bilge for that few hours and mold loves diesel soot-black mold grew. Easy to kill in bilge-Impossible to get into all the voids to clean.
Many people find that the more mold you’re exposed to over time, the worse your body reacts. Please wear N95 masks and kill that stuff!
👍
Should look good. Take your time and do your research on what people have done in regards to insulation techniques and materials. Please get rid of the trick bike. Someday you may get injured and not be able to continue. Toys from younger days must go….lol.
Travis finds!.... mold and rot.
😂
👍🏼🇦🇺🇨🇦
Figure out how to reuse the bed that you have than it will look like it belongs. Save the finish wood work, and modify what you have to do what you want. It will look good if you think it out and execute.
if it is just 2 people on a boat then remodel it for just 2 people and forget the guests because living on a boat laid out to sleep 320 is going to make a couple feel cramped and claustrophobic and turn them off for living aboard , i had a 57 foot motor yacht that i had totally remodeled the interior for just two people
I take you do not what me to call you, somebody is messing with the channel PLease take note also get telegram ones. Need to tell all. Fair winds calm seas.
That reply to your comment wasn’t made by our account but made to look like it was since it had the same profile photo as ours. I blocked that user so all their comments have been removed from the replies they made to comments in our video. Thanks for looking out
@@SailingJibsea Hope I was helpful, it is happening a lot at the moment on different sail youtubers So please spread the word to all the others you ken. Fair winds calm seas.
Hi, I wonder if your UA-cam channel was hacked? I received a UA-cam notification with the following message "Thanks for watching and commenting. Contact the number above (I omitted the number) for INTERACTION on calming your prize. you are among the shortlisted winners from.....
Don
I believe that was a comment by a user/bot with a handle of “text …-……..” It wasn’t our account but made to look like it was since it had the same profile photo as ours. I blocked that user so all their comments have been removed from the replies they made to comments in our video. Thanks for looking out for us.
@@SailingJibsea Your welcome, keep the GREAT videos coming:-)