If you want to get below 50hz effective whit a basstraps your options is Helholmtz resonator, tuned limpmass membrane. Tuned Metal plate resonator, panel resonator,light concrete blocks. Dealing with very low frequencys bass build up below 50hz you also need to consider what your walls and roof are made of. In Studios you want sturdy walls built with materials that have good acoustic properties Plywood, HDF, MDF or 16mm Drywall. Brick / concrete walls are good for sound isolation ratings but don't have any acoustic dampening effects.
Couldn't possibly recommend Build a Better Bass Trap enough. I made 19 bass traps for my bedroom studio and the process was super fun and VERY well thought out and explained in the video series. Worth every single penny and then some. Brought me so much joy while building and even more when I saw the frequency response and RT60s!
Hey Jesco! I'd love to see a video talking through some of the challenges that come along with a dual subwoofer system. PS: Love the channel - keep up the great work!
Hey Jesco, would love a video going a bit more in depth on your bass trap/diffuser building process. Big fan of your designs and I’ve read your guide to bass traps, but unfortunately there’s still quite a lot of “voodoo” for someone approaching a DIY build (ie., ideal building materials; insulation types; ideal dimensions and depths). I think a video running through your thought process when building traps/diffusers would be extremely helpful for anyone taking a DIY approach to treating their workspace. Cheers
Hi Jesco, I have the same monitors as you, and it would me amazing to see the video you started and never finished about them, I'm sure that I can learn with it!
Hey, Jesco! What about the ceiling? Is there any kind of treatment on it? I had noticed those little squares before and wondered if they had any acoustics purpose.
Hey Jesco, thanks for all your videos! I’m just wondering how thick you’ve made your panels and whether there’s an air gap behind the absorption material (the wood covers the whole side)? Totally jealous of the HEDD Type 20’s, they’re my dream monitors! Thanks again!
Hi Jesco, thanks for the studio tour, could you give us infos on fixing the corner ceiling trap. I would like to have the same kind of but don't want to ruin th the insulation. Thank you.
Hey Jesco! I have a question about the concept of sound absorption in general. I was thinking about corner traps. We put material in corners to absorb low frequencies because that's where they tend to build up. But... why? Who cares what the corners sound like? We aren't mixing a record from the corner of the room nor is it a comfortable listening position. So, why do we care if that's where bass builds up? I assume it has something to do with making more "room" for low-frequency information within the listening space; mitigating these areas of build-up provides more physical space for the air to move relative to the same SPL and frequency content, and this allows the room more leeway to produce a flatter frequency response (or something like that). But, that's really just speculation on my part. Now that I think about it, that doesn't really make sense either. It's not like those areas of buildup will not get louder as the sound source gets louder - they will. So, it's not like that area is "saturated." Also, through watching your videos and via my own experiences, I understand that bass trapping and sound treatment in general do not necessarily dramatically change the frequency response of a room from the perspective of any given listening position. So...why exactly do we care that 80Hz is explosively loud over there in the corner? Thanks for your excellent content! Best hub for acoustics information on the internet :D
Good questions. I can't speak for Jesco, however... Two problematic issues; 1.) Peaks/Dips in freq response 2.) Excessive low freq decay time Both issues are improved via absorption in the corners (wall/ceiling, wall/wall). By lowering that energy in the corners, the peaks aren't as high, and dips aren't as deep. Corner trapping also lowers the LF decay time, that's vital. It always sounds better... LF energy doesn't hang around as long, that increases bass clarity and detail. With any bass note/hit, when that note is played, the note needs to HIT with impact, then fade off instantly. Without bass trapping it can sound muddy and dull. Corner bass traps help fix that, ... absorbing that note soon after it's been heard... that reveals greater bass impact and detail. That excessive bass energy hanging around needs to go, just like the peaks/dips in the freq response... corner trapping helps both. ALL bass energy from the speakers/subs encounters the corners ... therefore, trap the corners. Hope this helps. Thanks
It would be really cool to get a your take on ported vs closed enclosures, specific to low frequency decay time/waterfall. Why you choose ported vs closed. Why you wouldn’t go with something like NS10’s. Thanks
Have you tried to rise up the sub above the floor? I have a Shure SRH1840 They are much more comfortable (the most comfortable) due to low weight, also more heavy duty due to aluminum parts. The only complaint is mmcx cable socket, which was not working good from new, but thanks to the spare cable included it was not a problem. They are also not so popular, thats why available new on ebay for half of the retail price (the demo sets, without fancy box, spare cable and spare ear pads).
Nice studio setup. It's also an interesting concept to have a studio/room JUST for mixing with no musical instruments whatsoever. In some studios, perhaps the music is actually composed in another room and tracked out into this room (for mixing later) from either a networked Dante or AVB interface or networked DAW. I guess the composition or "tracking" room would have to be acoustically treated as well particularly if it contains miced acoustic instruments, not to mention the vocal booth.
Very interesting tour, could you let us know what other gear you have in your left rack? I saw a Furman power conditioner but other than that I couldn't tell anything else. Thanks for everything you do, Jesco.
Hi Jesco, I have tried to download your free guide to bass traps a couple of times, but I don't receive a link. Have you another way of sending it. I have checked the spam folder. I am keen to improve my set up, thank you.
That's an impressive setup! Unfortunately, I think that's very far from what some of us could achieve with a limited budget. Do you have any recommendations for starting room treatment? After deciding a listening position, where should I place my absorption panels if I can only afford to buy two? Would cheap foam absorbers and foam "bass traps" help those two panels perform better? Or would it be better to keep the rest of the walls empty until I save up for more traps? Would mixing with decent flat-ish response studio headphones make more sense in this scenario?
As a general rule, don't use foam, it's almost worthless, and it's often expensive. In many cases it makes things worse by only treating Simple DIY panels are inexpensive, and perform way way better than foam, and essentially every time better than ready made products.
For those speakers, is ported/non-ported an option dependent on the room? Or why is that an option in the speaker design? Is closing the port like a high pass filter? I love that fader control btw. Been looking for something where I can move a fader and adjust EQ simultaneously.
Awesome room sir! Love the look of your panel designs. I’ve been wondering what the desk side looks like for a while!! A few questions I’m curious to know. What are the dimensions of your room? And I notice your side walls don’t have appear to have treatment past the mixing position other than furniture. It could be the camera angle, but it seems like a lot of open wall space. Does all the diffusion you have integrated into the front rear reduce the need to work on those areas? Lastly, is your ceiling 100% treated?
Hey Jesco, thanks for sharing all that! One question, I get the two absorbers behind your speakers, but why is there one behind the computer monitor? Thanks!
Can u PLEASEE Talk bout how density of materials affect the sound absorbtion properties ¿Does low density actually improves absorption and High density improves sound insulation?
I almost laughed out loud when I saw the title of this video. A few days ago I was sitting there, trying to find out what your setup looks like, wondering why there wasn’t a room tour xD Anyhow, it’s an amazing looking setup! I have a question about the audio interface: How important is the audio interface’s DAC to the overall quality of the audio, especially compared to (sub-optimal) acoustic treatment. About the sub12: How important is having a sub-woofer? Or rather: how deep should your low end be? I currently use Adam A5Xs and basically rely on mixing bass on headphones and referencing other systems... I’d love to know your opinion!
Hi, thanks for your room Tour. Where can I get these mathematics calculation for diffusing. I built up Marly the same absorber, but without diffusing elements in front of it. Thanks a lot. I am listed in your email list - subcribed again.
Hi Jesco, Will you make a video with the measurements of your room? You are just curious to see the acoustics in your room. Written with Google translate Greetings
I spent a lot of time researching and talking to different professionals. Only one person recommends it, Dennis Foley from Acoustic Fields. But I wouldn’t trust his process and over priced panels and “proprietary” technology. Through talking to professionals like John Brandt, he said it’s not worth it. Way too expensive and there are much better alternatives. Sure, it may work, but I would choose a different route. I haven’t had any first hand experience, but it’s what I discovered as I went down the rabbit hole of activated carbon and all kinds of things. Good luck.
Straight away its refreshing to that you also have an off-centre window behind your speakers.
7:00 the complete guide to bass traps is fantastic. Thanks 🙏
Yes! Talk about your new studio monitors
If you want to get below 50hz effective whit a basstraps your options is Helholmtz resonator, tuned limpmass membrane. Tuned Metal plate resonator, panel resonator,light concrete blocks. Dealing with very low frequencys bass build up below 50hz you also need to consider what your walls and roof are made of. In Studios you want sturdy walls built with materials that have good acoustic properties Plywood, HDF, MDF or 16mm Drywall. Brick / concrete walls are good for sound isolation ratings but don't have any acoustic dampening effects.
Couldn't possibly recommend Build a Better Bass Trap enough. I made 19 bass traps for my bedroom studio and the process was super fun and VERY well thought out and explained in the video series. Worth every single penny and then some. Brought me so much joy while building and even more when I saw the frequency response and RT60s!
Had no idea you did a platinum record!!! That mix sounds excellent. Good to see people teaching others that have a serious resume.
Hey Jesco! I'd love to see a video talking through some of the challenges that come along with a dual subwoofer system.
PS: Love the channel - keep up the great work!
Very nice airy & light room, would to see a video on the Head Type 20's.
those plants that grow around whole studio, damn, thats some flex :)
nice tour, thanks for sharing
Jesso--I really enjoyed that. Thanks!
Hey Jesco, would love a video going a bit more in depth on your bass trap/diffuser building process. Big fan of your designs and I’ve read your guide to bass traps, but unfortunately there’s still quite a lot of “voodoo” for someone approaching a DIY build (ie., ideal building materials; insulation types; ideal dimensions and depths). I think a video running through your thought process when building traps/diffusers would be extremely helpful for anyone taking a DIY approach to treating their workspace. Cheers
Very nice studio! Congratulations!
Hi Jesco, I have the same monitors as you, and it would me amazing to see the video you started and never finished about them, I'm sure that I can learn with it!
Wonderful room tour, thanx Jesco!
Great video and amazing studio. Why anyone would give this vid a thumbs down is beyond me! Keep up the great work.
Thanks Jesco. I enjoyed the tour!
Hey, Jesco! What about the ceiling? Is there any kind of treatment on it? I had noticed those little squares before and wondered if they had any acoustics purpose.
I say the small grid pattern on the ceiling... no clue.
As far as treatment, it appears as if there's an absorption cloud above his mix position.
Great info, thanks. Would be interested to see your room measurements with all the treatment
Hey Jesco, thanks for all your videos! I’m just wondering how thick you’ve made your panels and whether there’s an air gap behind the absorption material (the wood covers the whole side)? Totally jealous of the HEDD Type 20’s, they’re my dream monitors! Thanks again!
neat room!
Very interesting tour. Can't wait for the next "Build a better Bass Trap" so that I can build myself some too! :)
Hi Jesco, thanks for the studio tour, could you give us infos on fixing the corner ceiling trap. I would like to have the same kind of but don't want to ruin th the insulation. Thank you.
Hey Jesco! I have a question about the concept of sound absorption in general.
I was thinking about corner traps. We put material in corners to absorb low frequencies because that's where they tend to build up. But... why? Who cares what the corners sound like? We aren't mixing a record from the corner of the room nor is it a comfortable listening position. So, why do we care if that's where bass builds up? I assume it has something to do with making more "room" for low-frequency information within the listening space; mitigating these areas of build-up provides more physical space for the air to move relative to the same SPL and frequency content, and this allows the room more leeway to produce a flatter frequency response (or something like that). But, that's really just speculation on my part.
Now that I think about it, that doesn't really make sense either. It's not like those areas of buildup will not get louder as the sound source gets louder - they will. So, it's not like that area is "saturated." Also, through watching your videos and via my own experiences, I understand that bass trapping and sound treatment in general do not necessarily dramatically change the frequency response of a room from the perspective of any given listening position.
So...why exactly do we care that 80Hz is explosively loud over there in the corner?
Thanks for your excellent content! Best hub for acoustics information on the internet :D
Good questions.
I can't speak for Jesco, however...
Two problematic issues;
1.) Peaks/Dips in freq response
2.) Excessive low freq decay time
Both issues are improved via absorption in the corners (wall/ceiling, wall/wall).
By lowering that energy in the corners, the peaks aren't as high, and dips aren't as deep.
Corner trapping also lowers the LF decay time, that's vital.
It always sounds better... LF energy doesn't hang around as long, that increases bass clarity and detail.
With any bass note/hit, when that note is played, the note needs to HIT with impact, then fade off instantly. Without bass trapping it can sound muddy and dull.
Corner bass traps help fix that, ... absorbing that note soon after it's been heard... that reveals greater bass impact and detail.
That excessive bass energy hanging around needs to go, just like the peaks/dips in the freq response... corner trapping helps both.
ALL bass energy from the speakers/subs encounters the corners ... therefore, trap the corners.
Hope this helps.
Thanks
It would be really cool to get a your take on ported vs closed enclosures, specific to low frequency decay time/waterfall. Why you choose ported vs closed. Why you wouldn’t go with something like NS10’s. Thanks
Have you tried to rise up the sub above the floor?
I have a Shure SRH1840
They are much more comfortable (the most comfortable) due to low weight, also more heavy duty due to aluminum parts.
The only complaint is mmcx cable socket, which was not working good from new, but thanks to the spare cable included it was not a problem.
They are also not so popular, thats why available new on ebay for half of the retail price (the demo sets, without fancy box, spare cable and spare ear pads).
Really, love the channel - keep up the great work! Used to work in studio design😁
Nice studio setup. It's also an interesting concept to have a studio/room JUST for mixing with no musical instruments whatsoever. In some studios, perhaps the music is actually composed in another room and tracked out into this room (for mixing later) from either a networked Dante or AVB interface or networked DAW.
I guess the composition or "tracking" room would have to be acoustically treated as well particularly if it contains miced acoustic instruments, not to mention the vocal booth.
Very interesting tour, could you let us know what other gear you have in your left rack? I saw a Furman power conditioner but other than that I couldn't tell anything else. Thanks for everything you do, Jesco.
Hi Jesco, I have tried to download your free guide to bass traps a couple of times, but I don't receive a link. Have you another way of sending it. I have checked the spam folder. I am keen to improve my set up,
thank you.
Jesco! Loved your set up. Do you think black out curtains work for windows?
That's an impressive setup! Unfortunately, I think that's very far from what some of us could achieve with a limited budget.
Do you have any recommendations for starting room treatment? After deciding a listening position, where should I place my absorption panels if I can only afford to buy two? Would cheap foam absorbers and foam "bass traps" help those two panels perform better? Or would it be better to keep the rest of the walls empty until I save up for more traps? Would mixing with decent flat-ish response studio headphones make more sense in this scenario?
As a general rule, don't use foam, it's almost worthless, and it's often expensive. In many cases it makes things worse by only treating
Simple DIY panels are inexpensive, and perform way way better than foam, and essentially every time better than ready made products.
Can SBIR be treated with absorption only, or is it normal to have a combination of absorption + diffusion?
For those speakers, is ported/non-ported an option dependent on the room? Or why is that an option in the speaker design? Is closing the port like a high pass filter?
I love that fader control btw. Been looking for something where I can move a fader and adjust EQ simultaneously.
Royksopp!! I knew you had good taste :)
Awesome room sir! Love the look of your panel designs. I’ve been wondering what the desk side looks like for a while!! A few questions I’m curious to know. What are the dimensions of your room? And I notice your side walls don’t have appear to have treatment past the mixing position other than furniture. It could be the camera angle, but it seems like a lot of open wall space. Does all the diffusion you have integrated into the front rear reduce the need to work on those areas? Lastly, is your ceiling 100% treated?
very interesting - thanks :-) What is the purpose of the treatment in front of the window?
Hi Jesco, what do you think about mixing outdoors ? 😅
Great tour. What model of speaker stands do you use? And do you use any kind of isolators between them and your monitors?
Cloud bass trap just ahead of First reflection on celling is enough ? or should it be bigger enought to cover speaker and listen position? thanks !
Hey Jesco, thanks for sharing all that! One question, I get the two absorbers behind your speakers, but why is there one behind the computer monitor? Thanks!
put the sub at the frontwall, facing the wall. you will have a cardiod bass response without dips
Which speakers have you had before buying those Hedds?
Are the P11As broken? Or are you just not a fan of using multiple sets of speakers?
Can u PLEASEE Talk bout how density of materials affect the sound absorbtion properties ¿Does low density actually improves absorption and High density improves sound insulation?
Thank you so much!
I almost laughed out loud when I saw the title of this video. A few days ago I was sitting there, trying to find out what your setup looks like, wondering why there wasn’t a room tour xD
Anyhow, it’s an amazing looking setup!
I have a question about the audio interface: How important is the audio interface’s DAC to the overall quality of the audio, especially compared to (sub-optimal) acoustic treatment.
About the sub12: How important is having a sub-woofer? Or rather: how deep should your low end be? I currently use Adam A5Xs and basically rely on mixing bass on headphones and referencing other systems...
I’d love to know your opinion!
Nice room! You sub looks decoupled? What is your take on that topic?
Hi Jesco, I'm signed up, how can I see your 'build a better bass trap' course thnx
Where did you get the desk?
Thank you
Maybe you could address speaker stands and their role, in a future video?
whar are the room dimensions of the room ?
what lights are hitting the type 20s?
Hi, thanks for your room Tour. Where can I get these mathematics calculation for diffusing. I built up Marly the same absorber, but without diffusing elements in front of it. Thanks a lot. I am listed in your email list - subcribed again.
Hi Jesco,
Will you make a video with the measurements of your room?
You are just curious to see the acoustics in your room.
Written with Google translate
Greetings
I am struggling to find/decide the right fabric to us. Does anyone here have anything against or in favor of Canvas Duck 10oz Fabric Preshrunk ?
Realness. No voodoo. 👍
why not Tubetraps? many say are the best
Looks almost as messy as my place.😊
Any truth in using activated carbon as a low freq absorber?
I spent a lot of time researching and talking to different professionals. Only one person recommends it, Dennis Foley from Acoustic Fields. But I wouldn’t trust his process and over priced panels and “proprietary” technology. Through talking to professionals like John Brandt, he said it’s not worth it. Way too expensive and there are much better alternatives. Sure, it may work, but I would choose a different route.
I haven’t had any first hand experience, but it’s what I discovered as I went down the rabbit hole of activated carbon and all kinds of things.
Good luck.
tres bon français :)
Where are u from Germany? I just moved here and I have an impossible room for u if u are interested 🤭
Ton français est plutôt pas mal!
Maybe instead of showing us your room stuff. Show us the REW frequency graph from your room.After all, it's a channel about acoustic adaptation.😐
man you need to put those plants time to time outside to get nice sunlight
You Should start selling your bass traps Online when you perfect them.
You know that's like starting completely another business, right?
First! ;)
Music may sound nice in this room but its damn ugly