Lore wise they aren't stronger than Sin. Mechanics don't always translate to narrative. Even if we were to say these things are stronger than Sin, Sin can wipe out entire cities the size of Zanarkand, these fiends aren't causing the same degree of wide spread damage as Sin.
@@RazielTheUnborn is there even legitimate lore about these arena monsters? To me it’s a scenario of “this is a video game and video games need gameplay”
@@Swillo Well there is lore for the arena itself so I'd imagine the lore for these monsters would probably fit in there somewhere. Lorewise Nemesis ain't Sin so the Crusaders training on it might be good practice.
@@Swillo As NorthernDragon pointed out, the Arena itself does have lore behind it and is used to train soldiers. The fiends inside have lore behind them before you face them as well. Can't find anything ATM but could have sworn nemisis even has lore behind it as to how it was out into the arena.
It took him 10 minutes because he is using celestial weapons and their skills are garbage. If he custom made tidus and wakka a celestial weapon with break dmg limit, double overdrive, triple overdrive, one mp cost and one for Rikku with break dmg limit alchemy one mp cost triple overdrive. That setup could end nemesis in less than 2 minutes if you want to manually fight it. Plus you can just kill him with zanmatto in a single hit too.
@@kevinw3601 Okay but like with endgame superboss enemies, the fight itself is the entire point. If you just instantly one shot it with Zanmato just to say you beat it, why even bother? You didn't really gain anything out of doing it.
They probably could gave sped up the fight if they wanted to. Set up over drives and stuff but yeah if you wanna spam quick hit and auto attack you can still get it done. Its almost necessary on Penance tho. Those arms
Took me six hours straight of just adding spheres to the grid for each character. Can’t imagine clearing spheres and readding to make it look visually good too.
its time consuming. but its so aesthetically pleasing to look at when you rebuild the entire sphere grid like this. generally only the most hardcore completionists will bother doing this.
I remember playing this game and I got maxed out stats pretty fast by grinding that mushroom that gives teleport spheres in the monster farm. It can be killed pretty fast and I killed that thing for hours - I was a kid and had time - maxed out all characters inside 2-3 days.
@@esteveguineueta2328 tonberry is faster. Sleep Sprout is an easy kill, but only gives 10k AP a kill. You can get millions with the right gear with a single Don Tonberry fight
This has the ultimate energy of "God damn it. I'm going to grind and beat this guy no matter how long it takes. The main story can wait!" We've all been there....
So I was thinking... most the walkthroughs of this game all say the celestial weapons are the best you can get for each character. However some of these weapons have slots that are pointless in regards to damage or not helpful in a battle like double ap or gillionaire. It might be interesting to craft weapons for those characters and rather add first strike, some evade/counter, half mp or 1 mp or even alchemy might be dope paired with armour that has auto Phoenix which would then be a full life becomes a mega Phoenix down.
you're somewhat right about this but there is a hidden algorithm with celestial weapons where but the higher your HP the more damage you do (except for Auron which is the opposite) and the higher likelihood of hitting a critical (you can hear the difference in the sound when you strike). first strike is unecessary in the late game with 255 agility and auto haste. auto phoenix only revives with 9,999hp not 99,999. i agree the MP ones are useful
@@2xMoon ah gotcha I haven’t quite got to the 99,999 HP yet still at 9,999 so didn’t know auto Phoenix with alchemy wouldn’t do full life like it does where I’m at now. I threw in the towel on acquiring Tidus celestial lol. Can’t be bothered.
@@2xMoon gotta point out that it's been tested that 255 agility is no different than 170... so you really could stop at that point and get more evasion or accuracy if you wanted. also, that algorithm for celestial weapons might be why they ignore defense. They still can't ignore armored status w/o piercing or armor break though. any characters you want to spam quick hit on a boss like penance might need these weapons either way.
That is not the case with the Dark Aeon and Penance fights, at least. You need to anticipate attack patterns, counter stats, party usage, etc. But in a sense, you’re right: advanced stats carry you throughout most of the game until you decide to do Monster Arena or Dark Aeons/Penance fights…after 20+ hours into the game. A little bit too late for a challenge, which becomes optional.
@@ggarzagarcia I just finished all trophies and I agree with the OP, for normal playthroughs that don't involve challenges, every boss is easy with enough preparation. Even penance. My ribbon and auto phoenix set up wasnt working well against penance so I changed it. I used 9999hp, auto protect auto haste auto potion defence 20% for the frontline Rikku, Wakka and Tidus. Used trio of 9999 for 100% auto potion heals, ultra null all for cheer 5, Freedom X for 0 mana and hyper mighty G for the auto phoenix just in case. The rest is easy, just keep arms out of commission and use dispel. If I do another playthrough I will probably prepare less to make the game more challenging.
@@lucasdarianschwendlervieir3714 well this game was developed over 20+ years ago, the ps2 could not handle a ton of crazy stuff and the game was pretty groundbreaking for the era. we’re spoiled now by all the new tech and forget how far games have come.
First playthrough of FFX I went rather quick and did just enough to progress the story. Shortly after getting access to the ship's ability to fly everywhere I went to Omega dungeon. And I could NOT touch Omega. I felt weak and pitiful. I had already had serious issues beating Seymour on Mt. Gagazet. So. After feeling down for a week, I deleted my file and restarted the game. And I did not move quickly. Every area I grinded for a time. I moved some of the characters into adjacent sphere-grid areas earlier. The moment it could be done, I went out of my way to get monsters captured, celestial weapon components, and extra spheres for later. I had no problem with any of the story this time, and went straight to Omega. I got everything ready. Everyone had their overdrives active, and the same for all of my Aeons. I used Rikku's mix to give party buffs then switched her out for Auron. Then Yuna did an Overdrive summon on the sisters. Delta Attack NOW!! So this was the first time I had seen max damage in FFX..... And just for your information, that is actually the exact amount that Omega has in maximum health....99,999 I uh... I thought I was going to have to summon and do this with just about everyone. I was ready for an epic battle, against a foe that had bested me so many times before..... One shot. With 3 characters getting experience at all.... So, with great sadness, I reloaded from the start of Omega dungeon and went back to the boss, and proceeded to have everyone in the party do... something. Because I had to hold back now to not kill him before everyone could get exp. It was at this moment I realized that I may have gone a little overboard. Welp! Nothing to do but everything else now. All celestial weapons, everything captured. Nemesis here wasn't all that hard really, but it was for sure a longer fight. I did not have max stats at this point, but Lulu, Yuna, and Rikku had all cleared each other's zones by this point and Yuna was eating through Tidus'. Damn what a good game!
what makes me sad playing FFX is when you have done with super bosses like Nemesis and Penance, and you ended the final boss with only 1 hit. Jecht is like 2 hit, Aeon battle 1 hit ea, and Yu Yevon 1 hit...it feels...soo anticlimatic....
It'll be great if newer jrpgs make a mechanic where if you beat all optional superbosses, there is an option to make the final story boss much more powerful than all the superbosses. I remember Star Ocean Second Evolution did that. You need to do something optional (quite out of the way too) and it makes the final story boss able to cast spells WHILE MOVING and those spells one shot you. I was level 80 when I first beat the story boss normally. After I did that optional thing, my characters were level 250+ and I still couldn't beat the boss without cheesing
@@lostregattostregone1289 I didn’t mean me, I’m at 108 hours and getting there but not maxed, I meant the guy who posted the video when he goes on the menu it says 108 hours and I’d also like to know how, I have beat all the dark aeons but penance beats the shit out of me
I remember when i played the game for the first time (for 2 years). This boss was a toast (no character died and wakka killed hm in a few turns with overdrive). but it took me 3-4 weeks to max the stats cause it was my first time to play this game. and it was great!!!
i think the real takeaway here is that if you have max stats, it's more a button mashing contest than actual strategy. i didn't realize it only had 3 moves, and 2 of them don't really do anything. ultima is basically negligible too just because auto life exists and it only exists to waste 2 or 3 turns healing after
Why did they waste their time with the final summoning pilgrimage? This 1 guy made multiple monsters more powerful than Sin and somehow is able to control them.
I wish each character had a couple of sphere grid skills that were reserved only for them just so they could be distinguished a bit. At this point it doesnt even matter who your party consists of.
That can sometimes work well though. Like if you like a certain character but they were weak and you couldn't use them as often. But in this case, you could.
Yuna : I am a joke to you ? Also I think it already exist : it's called overdrives And what a surprise most ultra lategame comp have rikku-wakka-tidus because they have the best ones, on top of havign some of the best ultimate weapons
@@kevincardona1509 hum no, even on the basic grid eventually you can break/bypass all spheres separating all the characters. There is not somewhere a specific character can't go .
FFX was the first FF I truly enjoyed, most likely because of the strategy guide, overall ease of finding everything, and the internet. I played FFVII and FFIX, but never completed those games as well as I did FFX. You felt so powerful in FFX with the celestial weapons that made your characters very strong.
hard out! but the thing i really liked about FFX is even when you read a guide and discover some new content. it was still a challenge to complete it. when i first found out about the celestial weapons it took me ages to get the hang of all the side quest/mini games
I did the same thing on the original ps2 version. It took so damn long to delete every node and replace with +4's and all in their own region. I opted to not have the high mp and hp though, it was pointless since you are going to be reviving with auto phoenix for these kind of battles. 255 all stats and i think i got near 50k hp and 500 mp. Nice to see somebody else who grinded that damn monster arena fml it was a chore!
@@dhekar i had all stats at 255, yes. lol. i wish i still had my old ps2 memory card to back my claim, but trust me....i put in A LOT of FFX hours between blitzball and the monster arena
I love how the very First thing you see after you beat him and go through the loot screen and all the hype starts fading.... Monster Arena man: "Now what?"
Only really played through this game a couple times around the years it was new. Never even knew this version of the boss existed. This boss is ridiculous 😂
It s not even the arch boss. Jrpgs has that notion that the secret boss is way harder than final boss.it s for the obe thzt really grind the mechanisms of the game
@@unlimited971 meh the arch boss aint rly the arch boss neither if you think about der richter strickly following the good strat will prevent him from doing the real bad things (kill the arms!), stuff like magnus sister can be tricker with bad rng
you have to collect 10 of all catchables enemies. i think maybe also win all other arena fights too i think. not sure on 2nd half but i for sure know you need the 10 of every thing,.
Yooo that evasion and accuracy though. Dark yohimbo would have your ass. 255 in both so no matter how strong your attacks are it don't matter if they all miss. I guess you could double cast blast him with that max magic but it wouldn't beat hitting with celestial weapons ignoring defense. And on that note farming magic spheres and hp spheres is waaaay more time consuming Than agility or evasion. But props for not going in and just Waka overdrive him into the ground entrusting everyone else's overdrive to Waka. Nice vid. Sorry for the rant lol respect to the grind
Hahaha thanks mate the grindiest part was actually fortune spheres i had to fight earth eater around 420 times to max LUK on all 7 characters. Max Luck is better than max acc and eva combined and i can hit dark yojimbo no probs. Infact i farmed him for break hp limit and ribbon accesories
@@2xMoon whaaaaaaaat honestly I've never grinded luck for that reason, waaaaay harder than Magic for sure you got me there. I had no idea luck could Trump out the other stats. Thanks for the info! Keep up the good work my dude
@@shpookee you dont need evasion or accuracy if you have maxed luck, i dont put any nodes at accurary, and it only tooks me 8 minutes to beat 4 dark yoijimbo 😁😁😁
I remember hating how useless kimarhi was post game. I hated that so much plus i didn't see the point in making the bosses damage sponges, Once you survive 6 attacks against a boss you can survive a hundred. Where's the challenge, the fun in fighting the same dude a hundred+ turns? In this fight you had to deal over 110 hits to slay Nemesis (has 10 million HP), and in all that time you had 3 strategies: Attack/Quick Hit, Curaga/Esuna, or Full-Life... for hundreds of turns. once you reached the stats check and figured the formula, the fight wasn't a challenge anymore, just tedious. So one playthrough I enabled a mod that removed the 99999 damage cap (no other changes). The entire story played exactly the same, but once postgame hit it cut out literal days of mindless grinding and fighting arena battles half-asleep (I bet the same thing happened to everyone that grinded postgame). Now, my Kimarhi is an actual beast, he finally gets his moment in my frontline, and deals so much damage in a single turn he can 3-shot Penance.
With default compatibility (Never used him before), Grand Summon yojimbo will use Zanmato around 25% of the time with just 5000 gil, for those trying to tackle this stuff underleveled. With full compatibility and Grand Summon, it's about 32% for 5000 gil. Edit: it's 1/3 default, 1/4 at zero, and about 1/2.5 with full compatibility. And it's 512 gil, not 5000.
I find it funny if i decide to use zanmato on someone like seymour. since he talks so much shit in every cutscenes and you just slice him in half with one hit. Even Tidus says "you talk too much seymour" during one the battles xD hahahaha
Ultimate version of Utlima and Omega. I don’t think I ever beat him but then again I got this game when I was 12 so lol. My favorite thing to do was raise everyone up in each new area until we overkilled every boss. Bro, I actually had the guide book from my local library to find all the celestial weapons. Fun times 👏🏼
@@2xMoon bro right?! Remember how hard it is to get each sigil. I used to be so try hard that I would try getting the one where you have to dodge 100 lightening bolts. Oh man I wanna go play now 🥲
Spam dark yojimbo to get armor with 4 slot break HP limit, ribbon + 2 empty slot for auto protect & auto haste. Just don't defeat all dark yojimbo and you can back to cave to farm. Including dark matter & master sphere.
A lot had to do woth the PC versions 4x speed modifier. When i did this on console it took me over 350hours lol. Plus ive played this game end to end like 6 times so i can min max efficiently
@@hitmanlegacy Nice! keep it up and goodluck :) try beat all 3 magus sisters in the same fight without zanmato afterwards. that's a challenge even with max stats lol
that’s gonna be awhile to get maxed out stats for that fight and I gotta manage to do everything in the bevelle cloister perfect before I get bahamut in order to get the aeon that “Seymour” uses
Damn you have played the game a lot. I kinda wish I started playing the steam version earlier instead of PS2 so I had old safefile I could play once in a while like this
Rikku have not only 9999 potion,she have 99999 potion,too with her limit break. Together with Auto-Portion its still different yo fight in speed and HP heal. By they way i remember i always grind luck first in FF10,cos is a pain so i Starting it first. Best Strategy: First completely activating Spero Table by Grind in Omega-Ruine,than grind luck and in the End Grind for empty spheres and 4 States gems. Don Tombery Strategy is very useful for grind after one workround in Omega-Ruine. 1Million AP /per 15-20 Minutes. But i find crafting weapons better than Solar ultimate weapon. Yes i now they have ignore defense and HIGH CRIT, More Dmg by full Or High HP Bar. But Ability like MP 0/1 for example are l way better than many solar weapon Abilities or defense 20% working even after 255 in scaling. Best regards from Germany and good Gameplay i now how pain it is to grind this States bro *hug*
good insight and great tips, thanks! ive set up my playthrough based on how i find it fun but definitely there are many ways to reach and play the end game
@@koro527 haha yeah HP one wasnt too bad i just auto battle coz i was so strong that i dont die at that point and the the spheremorpth was super annoying but atleast you only needed about 30 battles to get all the luck spheres you need.....but earth eater oh my god....i was doing the set OD mode to victor, kill 2 dingos, attack reels to knock him down and then quick hit it to death repeat 200+ times
Lots of nostalgia in this video. Your overdrive mode should have been set different, Warrior or something. Continuing to watch probably should have also used overdrives lol.
Probably spend like 20 odd hours playing this game the first time in 2003 to beat it. Don't think would have the time to grind this out to get max specs. Might be much easier to use a hack to max the specs and get the auto life and ultimate weapons. Still the bosses are crazy.
I wonder what the devs intended these superbosses if it not were Don Tomberry farming and sphere farming. No "casual" playing style would defeat any of these things. Most would max the SG, but casually erasing and placing +4 attribute nodes is crazy
Break HP Limit is a big waste of slots in the Sphere Grid. Max defense + Max Luck + Auto Protect can keep you alive against almost anything, and it's a lot easier to keep your celestial weapons within the max damage HP.
@@nekogod Depends how you build. I have one tank character (Kimhari) with Break HP Limit/Ribbon/Auto Phoenix/Auto Protect with Dancer Limit mode as his Ultimate Weapon has Evade and Counter, i just leave him in Sentinel stance most of the time so he soaks most of the damage going on the group and can survive basically anything. Whenever he has his limit i just Entrust it to whoever else i need it on at the time (usually Yuna to use Anima's Oblivion, otherwise Wakka/Tidus if i don't feel like sitting in the summon's animation lol and sometime Rikku if i need Hyper Mighty G in a pinch). On more offensive characters i agree its kinda wasted.
@@jonathanabgrall6075 I always played the end game with pretty much 6 times the same character (except for overdrive). I like your take on it with the tank, although I think it's clearing speed will be slower. You'd also need to grind longer for hp and other spheres just so 1 out of 6 has more hp. So it's sounds inefficient, but more fun in role-play.
@@Vincrand Oh yeah its def not a speedrun strat or anything. Nowadays i play games just to relax :P It does save me time on other annoying grinds like Ribbon on all my characters or stuff like that tho.
This fight can be completed in half the time or less if the person playing uses their heads, starts with full overdrive, and actually uses them. 🙄 That sphere grid was very neat though, kudos to that
haha maybe my title is slightly misleading but as you know theres not enough spheres slots on the grid for it...evasion at 30 plus 255 luck already caps out your evasion rate so i just chucked the rest into accuracy. It mustve taken close to 300-400 hours on ps2 for you
yep that would be a faster way but like i mentioned in the description i wanted to show case that you can do it without overdrives or aeons with ease when you have max stats
No you didn't. You saw that "strat" in another video or in a guide or something and added it into your reply here as though you knew by firsthand experience. Admit this was a lie and just congratulate the guy on what he accomplished.
i played ffx tons of times but never got to beat omega ruins because i was so under level, this time i'm determined to be somewhat be overpower and beat all the bosses
Grinding for this always takes an eternity... Glad there's actually ways to kill every boss in the game (penance included) without going past 9999 HP, which cuts off a good chunk of the grind. But it's a trick that heavily requires Rikku's mix. It'd negate the "no overdrives" part of this.
@@SledgehammerEditing that's what he doesn't want to do. zanmato is just the biggest cheese and as DarkKefka puts it "saying that you suck"... and I believe him on that. using zanmato is basically a give up tactic in my opinion
@@SledgehammerEditing not as much as zanmato ending any and all fights instantly... you still have to try with rikku... zanmato is basically an instant win since literally nothing can withstand it's instant kill again, you didn't even try the fight with zanmato. plus while rikku's mix is overpowered, it's not guaranteed to let you win, especially against a lot of the harder fights like the dark aeons there's no defending zanmato. it's the biggest copout in the game for a reason. it's for people who can't win the fight.
@@SledgehammerEditing i mean if u watch someone like dansg08 he basically beat the whole game including penance without going overboard and under 80 hours. All you need really is three stars, ultra null all, hyper mighty g, attack reels, and 255 str, atleast about 75 luck and 255 agility.
I tell you the answer: it's a joke. I always do 255 on everything, then MP 999 then the remaining to the HP, which is about 70K. There is no way any enemy in this game can kill your party one hit but Penance, and for that to happen is kinda difficult because you have to play really bad. This is my favourite game, but I wouldn't mind for it to be a little more difficult overall, and since it's not using ATB system and let's you have time choosing your commands, I would put some extra AI on these superbosses to be more smart and hit harder, so you can't never guess what they are going to do. The fun of a superboss is to not knowing if you're going to defeat it, no matter how buffed you are :)
it's not necessary but having 1 luck is the same as having 1 accuracy and 1 evasion amongst a few other hidden stats so rather than max two different stats you can do it in one. 100 Luck is a good baseline in my opinion to do well against most end game content. generally you can beat arena bosses with 150-170 stats but i'm a completionist :P It is incredibly time consuming because Earth Eater (fortune spheres) and Greater Sphere (luck sphere) cannot be easily killed with mindless attacks...
there's an item in the end game called "clear sphere" that you can buy from the monster arena which you can erase a node and replace it with a better one. no hacks needed just takes a bloody long time lol because it requires a lot of game knowledge and preparation (i.e. 3xAP 3xOD OD>AP weapons to get sphere levels fast, capturing 10 of every monster to unlock bosses, kottos sphere extractions to get power/magic/speed spheres etc.)
I've never stat maxed my HP. It looked like Curaga was a waste of time. It'd be more beneficial to just let the character die and then cast Full Life on them.
My latest save file i did it in under 90hrs from starting the game then killed all the side bosses and finished the game in 96 hrs or so. Stats maxing alone probably took 50hrs if we incl monster capturing. Even on PCs 4x speed. Im thinking of making vids/guides on it to show my progression method
@@anagramconfirmed1717 no I mean instead of break hp limit, auto Phoenix + having 99 Mega Phoenixes. Keep the rest the same. Max stats, celestial weapons, and armor setup minus that one switch. I still have this game and my old save on PS2. I know what I'm talking about
@@anagramconfirmed1717 i don't do videos. This is simply for watching content, not posting it 🤷♂️ Then, even if i did, there's no guarantee you'd watch it or that i would remember to reply to you to let you know it's ready. I'm telling you that it's possible and that i did it. Dunno what to tell you man. Auto Haste + Auto Phoenix with Auto Protect and Auto Shell (or DeathProof instead of Auto Shell when i made an armor specifically for Wakka against Earth Eater). Worked for me. Dunno what to tell you. I likely don't even have those armors anymore because i sold things i didn't need. I fought so much that i got full on armor and weapons, so i had to sell a lot. I'm sure I have over 700 game hours in that profile. I can maybe do pics but a video? Nah.
@@rustyjones7908 Dude Yiazmat was a bitch. I spent 120 hours in FF12 and got all my characters to level 99 with all the ultimate weapons and it still took me four hours to beat Yiazmat and he made me go through TWO HUNDRED Phoenix Downs. I shit you not.
@@2xMoon no my bad what I meant to say is it would be cool to find some lore in going into these old games and still finding secrets but in 2023 we pretty much have all of that accomplished
@@2xMoon just cause I feel like you know what you’re talking about. I’ve only played Final Fantasy seven and eight and I’m currently playing it. What would you recommend for me in the next final fantasy series that has a lot of those secrets or battles ext like final fantasy 7 does
@@georgeguero6138 if you like hidden challenges and exploration to find optional bosses/items then I'd suggest FF12. Ive sunk 250hrs on one run on PS2 and i still havent got half of the stuff lol there's so much side content for example there's a boss that can takes hours to kill and bosses that only spawn after certain conditions (e.g. weather, game clock time etc)
to be fair by the time you unlock him you should be able to take him on since you need to beat every other arena boss atleast once.... unless you relied on zanmato lol
yup, i remember doing this on the original ps2 game way back then. maxed everyone out, and just spammed auto-life and quick hit. killed him in probably about 10 minutes. Interesting note, tho, he's affected by Doom status. :D Hilariously, tho, the counter starts at 255 instead of something lower like on most enemies that can be affected by the spell. I killed him before it got halfway there XD
100% with small-sphäro. I only reckognized it because I cant 255 all stats. Now in FFX is nothing left :( I wishe I can particial-deleting parts of my memory (aswell as for Zelda)
I was amazed by your sphere grid, after that i realized that you beated the whole content in 108h. Now i am wondering how that is even possible, can you enlighten me?
i did it on the HD remaster which has an option to 4x speed and increased encounters. Helped a lot with monster capturing which is the part that usually takes the longest. I did this on PS2 once and it took over 250hrs
nope you were always able to go over 9999HP as long as you have break hp limit on your armour. dark aeons drop amour with break hp limit or alternatively you can craft one using 30x wings to discovery which you can get from killing shinryu from monster arena. maybe i should start making guides hahaha
The real question is, how does the monster arena dude restrain/keep captive stronger than Sin fiends.
Lore wise they aren't stronger than Sin. Mechanics don't always translate to narrative. Even if we were to say these things are stronger than Sin, Sin can wipe out entire cities the size of Zanarkand, these fiends aren't causing the same degree of wide spread damage as Sin.
@@RazielTheUnborn is there even legitimate lore about these arena monsters? To me it’s a scenario of “this is a video game and video games need gameplay”
@@Swillo Well there is lore for the arena itself so I'd imagine the lore for these monsters would probably fit in there somewhere. Lorewise Nemesis ain't Sin so the Crusaders training on it might be good practice.
@@Swillo As NorthernDragon pointed out, the Arena itself does have lore behind it and is used to train soldiers. The fiends inside have lore behind them before you face them as well.
Can't find anything ATM but could have sworn nemisis even has lore behind it as to how it was out into the arena.
em..... Pokeballs?
The fact that it takes you around 10 minutes to beat this boss shows you how absolutely insanely power it is.
It took him 10 minutes because he is using celestial weapons and their skills are garbage. If he custom made tidus and wakka a celestial weapon with break dmg limit, double overdrive, triple overdrive, one mp cost and one for Rikku with break dmg limit alchemy one mp cost triple overdrive. That setup could end nemesis in less than 2 minutes if you want to manually fight it. Plus you can just kill him with zanmatto in a single hit too.
@@kevinw3601 Okay but like with endgame superboss enemies, the fight itself is the entire point. If you just instantly one shot it with Zanmato just to say you beat it, why even bother? You didn't really gain anything out of doing it.
And to get a reward for what? Personal achievement that you spent hours leveling up for no reason 😂
@@RienzelXIII Agreed, but look at every other sentence in that comment. The optimal strat is super op.
@@kevinw3601 just goes to show there are many ways to play the game lol mine is not necessarily the "best" but it's what I find most enjoyable
All that damage and the battle is still taking this long. That shit is ridiculous 😂
Laugh in penance
@@unlimited971 isn't Nemesis more difficult than Penance?
@@thereddemongaming3109 Nemesis is harder but Penance has a lot more HP
They probably could gave sped up the fight if they wanted to. Set up over drives and stuff but yeah if you wanna spam quick hit and auto attack you can still get it done. Its almost necessary on Penance tho. Those arms
@@unlimited971 Laughs in Zanmato
😮
It was satisfying to see
End game for all FF... Auto life and normal attack
There’s auto life in 7?
@@jeremybrandt5779 Final attack-revive
@@adrianhopcroft9915 final attack - pheonix summon
Yeah, same story almost always... I even remember in FF6 ,4x attack + 2 Ultima swords...
So boring then....it's all about the journey in ffx, once your that leveled, you know nothing is going to cause an issue
Nemesis:"Understandable, have a good day."
Took me six hours straight of just adding spheres to the grid for each character. Can’t imagine clearing spheres and readding to make it look visually good too.
Thats why i beat penance and then decided delete luck sheres to do the platinum trophy. No way am i getting all those luck spheres lol
its time consuming. but its so aesthetically pleasing to look at when you rebuild the entire sphere grid like this. generally only the most hardcore completionists will bother doing this.
I remember playing this game and I got maxed out stats pretty fast by grinding that mushroom that gives teleport spheres in the monster farm. It can be killed pretty fast and I killed that thing for hours - I was a kid and had time - maxed out all characters inside 2-3 days.
Which one was that if I may ask?
You need erase spheres, lvl 4 everything to max out grid
I find tomberri strategy faster :)
@@esteveguineueta2328 tonberry is faster. Sleep Sprout is an easy kill, but only gives 10k AP a kill. You can get millions with the right gear with a single Don Tonberry fight
Including "Luck" ??
Mad respect dude! I just replayed this for the 8th time on switch! Favourite game ever.
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Try the Pbirdman Mod it’s so much harder but fun
8 times? My friend you bow to no one
OMG I NEVER SAW A GRID LIKE THAT! The perfection! 😅‼️
I did the same thing on the original damn ps2 version.....lots and lots of arena grinding
@@jehremya7330 i was trying to do that now on my Nintendo switch. And I agree. It’s ALOT of grinding like you said
@@jehremya7330 yea but nobody cares if you did it or not bc nobody's here watching YOUR video about how you did it. Dummy. Stop lying.
Mine was like that, but when upgraded to PS5 and sold the PS4 I didn’t copy the save correctly
@walmartpimp2 There are a Multitude of saves available online. You could Always download someone else's save and pick up right there You left off.
This has the ultimate energy of "God damn it. I'm going to grind and beat this guy no matter how long it takes. The main story can wait!" We've all been there....
well at this point u must be near the very end of main story cuz for training center u gotta farm monsters inside Sin ;)
Lol I had that feeling when trying to beat that weird boss in the desert in X-2 😅
So I was thinking... most the walkthroughs of this game all say the celestial weapons are the best you can get for each character. However some of these weapons have slots that are pointless in regards to damage or not helpful in a battle like double ap or gillionaire. It might be interesting to craft weapons for those characters and rather add first strike, some evade/counter, half mp or 1 mp or even alchemy might be dope paired with armour that has auto Phoenix which would then be a full life becomes a mega Phoenix down.
you're somewhat right about this but there is a hidden algorithm with celestial weapons where but the higher your HP the more damage you do (except for Auron which is the opposite) and the higher likelihood of hitting a critical (you can hear the difference in the sound when you strike).
first strike is unecessary in the late game with 255 agility and auto haste.
auto phoenix only revives with 9,999hp not 99,999. i agree the MP ones are useful
@@2xMoon ah gotcha I haven’t quite got to the 99,999 HP yet still at 9,999 so didn’t know auto Phoenix with alchemy wouldn’t do full life like it does where I’m at now. I threw in the towel on acquiring Tidus celestial lol. Can’t be bothered.
@@earthpond8043 haha dont give up, the best benefit of unlocking all celestial weapons is the sense of achievement
@@2xMoon well I did get 3 seconds and that was good enough for me haha if only one bird would not have hit me. Was at 13 balloons and 2 birds... 🤦🏻♂️
@@2xMoon gotta point out that it's been tested that 255 agility is no different than 170... so you really could stop at that point and get more evasion or accuracy if you wanted.
also, that algorithm for celestial weapons might be why they ignore defense. They still can't ignore armored status w/o piercing or armor break though. any characters you want to spam quick hit on a boss like penance might need these weapons either way.
The main problem of this game is that battles become simple with advanced stats. The progression was not well defined
That is not the case with the Dark Aeon and Penance fights, at least. You need to anticipate attack patterns, counter stats, party usage, etc.
But in a sense, you’re right: advanced stats carry you throughout most of the game until you decide to do Monster Arena or Dark Aeons/Penance fights…after 20+ hours into the game. A little bit too late for a challenge, which becomes optional.
@@ggarzagarcia I just finished all trophies and I agree with the OP, for normal playthroughs that don't involve challenges, every boss is easy with enough preparation. Even penance. My ribbon and auto phoenix set up wasnt working well against penance so I changed it.
I used 9999hp, auto protect auto haste auto potion defence 20% for the frontline Rikku, Wakka and Tidus. Used trio of 9999 for 100% auto potion heals, ultra null all for cheer 5, Freedom X for 0 mana and hyper mighty G for the auto phoenix just in case. The rest is easy, just keep arms out of commission and use dispel.
If I do another playthrough I will probably prepare less to make the game more challenging.
@@lucasdarianschwendlervieir3714 well this game was developed over 20+ years ago, the ps2 could not handle a ton of crazy stuff and the game was pretty groundbreaking for the era. we’re spoiled now by all the new tech and forget how far games have come.
That's called "grinding".. The higher the level you are, the easier the game becomes. Literally every game is like that, even FromSoft games.
Yeah this was like most boring....
First playthrough of FFX I went rather quick and did just enough to progress the story. Shortly after getting access to the ship's ability to fly everywhere I went to Omega dungeon. And I could NOT touch Omega. I felt weak and pitiful. I had already had serious issues beating Seymour on Mt. Gagazet.
So. After feeling down for a week, I deleted my file and restarted the game. And I did not move quickly. Every area I grinded for a time. I moved some of the characters into adjacent sphere-grid areas earlier. The moment it could be done, I went out of my way to get monsters captured, celestial weapon components, and extra spheres for later.
I had no problem with any of the story this time, and went straight to Omega.
I got everything ready. Everyone had their overdrives active, and the same for all of my Aeons. I used Rikku's mix to give party buffs then switched her out for Auron. Then Yuna did an Overdrive summon on the sisters. Delta Attack NOW!!
So this was the first time I had seen max damage in FFX..... And just for your information, that is actually the exact amount that Omega has in maximum health....99,999
I uh... I thought I was going to have to summon and do this with just about everyone. I was ready for an epic battle, against a foe that had bested me so many times before.....
One shot. With 3 characters getting experience at all....
So, with great sadness, I reloaded from the start of Omega dungeon and went back to the boss, and proceeded to have everyone in the party do... something. Because I had to hold back now to not kill him before everyone could get exp. It was at this moment I realized that I may have gone a little overboard. Welp! Nothing to do but everything else now. All celestial weapons, everything captured.
Nemesis here wasn't all that hard really, but it was for sure a longer fight. I did not have max stats at this point, but Lulu, Yuna, and Rikku had all cleared each other's zones by this point and Yuna was eating through Tidus'.
Damn what a good game!
Neat!! Any other good gaming stories?
what makes me sad playing FFX is when you have done with super bosses like Nemesis and Penance, and you ended the final boss with only 1 hit. Jecht is like 2 hit, Aeon battle 1 hit ea, and Yu Yevon 1 hit...it feels...soo anticlimatic....
its that weird ff logic where the superbosses are far stronger than the final boss.
@@c-red4637 I guess they leave super bosses as optional because imagine a Sephiroth this strong 💀
or finish the game story before going to beat superbosses, i did it that way and had no problems, this dude spoils his game then complains xD
@@bmaxime8771Yeah lol game is great. All that and decides to complain
It'll be great if newer jrpgs make a mechanic where if you beat all optional superbosses, there is an option to make the final story boss much more powerful than all the superbosses. I remember Star Ocean Second Evolution did that. You need to do something optional (quite out of the way too) and it makes the final story boss able to cast spells WHILE MOVING and those spells one shot you. I was level 80 when I first beat the story boss normally. After I did that optional thing, my characters were level 250+ and I still couldn't beat the boss without cheesing
Don't even want to think how long it took to get to this stage haha! Enjoyed this, thanks for the video.
I know right? Lol
108 hours
@@yaboi2945 How the hell did you do it in 108 hours? I needed about 180 to max them all :/
@@lostregattostregone1289 I didn’t mean me, I’m at 108 hours and getting there but not maxed, I meant the guy who posted the video when he goes on the menu it says 108 hours and I’d also like to know how, I have beat all the dark aeons but penance beats the shit out of me
@@yaboi2945 Oh ok, I don't know, if you play on pc you can speed up the game up to x4
I remember when i played the game for the first time (for 2 years). This boss was a toast (no character died and wakka killed hm in a few turns with overdrive). but it took me 3-4 weeks to max the stats cause it was my first time to play this game. and it was great!!!
With auto-phx and 9999 hp you can almost immediately get an overdrive instantly with some of these end-game monsters and use attack reels
Yes, agreed. Break HP Limit is a waste, but my guy was just going for the big number display.
@biggsdarklighter6777 not really a waste for most monsters who can't hit 5x9s.
Overdrive attack reels is the most OP attack in the game yes.
i think the real takeaway here is that if you have max stats, it's more a button mashing contest than actual strategy. i didn't realize it only had 3 moves, and 2 of them don't really do anything. ultima is basically negligible too just because auto life exists and it only exists to waste 2 or 3 turns healing after
Author: maxes out stats in 1000+ hours
Me: haha Zanmato goes brrrrrr
Nice job, btw!
Why did they waste their time with the final summoning pilgrimage? This 1 guy made multiple monsters more powerful than Sin and somehow is able to control them.
Love 10 too much. Still one of my favorite final fantasy game ever.
I've done this back on the PS2 Era! Good Job My Friend!
You're a liar. You never even owned a ps2. Admit you're a liar, it's better for your mind.
I wish each character had a couple of sphere grid skills that were reserved only for them just so they could be distinguished a bit. At this point it doesnt even matter who your party consists of.
That can sometimes work well though. Like if you like a certain character but they were weak and you couldn't use them as often. But in this case, you could.
It does kinda, because of the speed of the different chars and the ods
Yuna : I am a joke to you ?
Also I think it already exist : it's called overdrives
And what a surprise most ultra lategame comp have rikku-wakka-tidus because they have the best ones, on top of havign some of the best ultimate weapons
You have the basics and advanced. The advanced grid allows everyone to learn everything.
@@kevincardona1509 hum no, even on the basic grid eventually you can break/bypass all spheres separating all the characters.
There is not somewhere a specific character can't go .
FFX was the first FF I truly enjoyed, most likely because of the strategy guide, overall ease of finding everything, and the internet. I played FFVII and FFIX, but never completed those games as well as I did FFX. You felt so powerful in FFX with the celestial weapons that made your characters very strong.
hard out! but the thing i really liked about FFX is even when you read a guide and discover some new content. it was still a challenge to complete it. when i first found out about the celestial weapons it took me ages to get the hang of all the side quest/mini games
I did the same thing on the original ps2 version. It took so damn long to delete every node and replace with +4's and all in their own region. I opted to not have the high mp and hp though, it was pointless since you are going to be reviving with auto phoenix for these kind of battles. 255 all stats and i think i got near 50k hp and 500 mp. Nice to see somebody else who grinded that damn monster arena fml it was a chore!
Did you get Luck of all characters to 255? I remember that stat being incredibly time consuming to max out
@@dhekar i had all stats at 255, yes. lol. i wish i still had my old ps2 memory card to back my claim, but trust me....i put in A LOT of FFX hours between blitzball and the monster arena
I love how the very First thing you see after you beat him and go through the loot screen and all the hype starts fading....
Monster Arena man: "Now what?"
Only really played through this game a couple times around the years it was new. Never even knew this version of the boss existed. This boss is ridiculous 😂
It s not even the arch boss. Jrpgs has that notion that the secret boss is way harder than final boss.it s for the obe thzt really grind the mechanisms of the game
@@unlimited971 meh the arch boss aint rly the arch boss neither if you think about der richter
strickly following the good strat will prevent him from doing the real bad things (kill the arms!), stuff like magnus sister can be tricker with bad rng
you have to collect 10 of all catchables enemies. i think maybe also win all other arena fights too i think. not sure on 2nd half but i for sure know you need the 10 of every thing,.
@@namonamo494 ozma in ff9, ultima weapon in ff8 etc
@@namonamo494 by the time you arrive to der richter the whole dark aeon was the warm up
I love that background animation/art at the NPC, such a great homage to the older titles
I remember fighting him for 4 hours and I screamed when I beat him. I was just stupid to it have grinded enough for HP. I had only 9999.
that filled out sphere chart was quite satisfying
Haha it was a nightmare to reorganise everything. I'll work towards sharing my layout so if people want to copy it, theyre more than welcome to.
Yooo that evasion and accuracy though. Dark yohimbo would have your ass. 255 in both so no matter how strong your attacks are it don't matter if they all miss. I guess you could double cast blast him with that max magic but it wouldn't beat hitting with celestial weapons ignoring defense. And on that note farming magic spheres and hp spheres is waaaay more time consuming Than agility or evasion. But props for not going in and just Waka overdrive him into the ground entrusting everyone else's overdrive to Waka. Nice vid. Sorry for the rant lol respect to the grind
Hahaha thanks mate the grindiest part was actually fortune spheres i had to fight earth eater around 420 times to max LUK on all 7 characters. Max Luck is better than max acc and eva combined and i can hit dark yojimbo no probs. Infact i farmed him for break hp limit and ribbon accesories
@@2xMoon whaaaaaaaat honestly I've never grinded luck for that reason, waaaaay harder than Magic for sure you got me there. I had no idea luck could Trump out the other stats. Thanks for the info! Keep up the good work my dude
@@shpookee you dont need evasion or accuracy if you have maxed luck, i dont put any nodes at accurary, and it only tooks me 8 minutes to beat 4 dark yoijimbo
😁😁😁
Who is upvoting these dumb comments?
I remember hating how useless kimarhi was post game. I hated that so much plus i didn't see the point in making the bosses damage sponges, Once you survive 6 attacks against a boss you can survive a hundred. Where's the challenge, the fun in fighting the same dude a hundred+ turns?
In this fight you had to deal over 110 hits to slay Nemesis (has 10 million HP), and in all that time you had 3 strategies: Attack/Quick Hit, Curaga/Esuna, or Full-Life... for hundreds of turns. once you reached the stats check and figured the formula, the fight wasn't a challenge anymore, just tedious.
So one playthrough I enabled a mod that removed the 99999 damage cap (no other changes). The entire story played exactly the same, but once postgame hit it cut out literal days of mindless grinding and fighting arena battles half-asleep (I bet the same thing happened to everyone that grinded postgame).
Now, my Kimarhi is an actual beast, he finally gets his moment in my frontline, and deals so much damage in a single turn he can 3-shot Penance.
With default compatibility (Never used him before), Grand Summon yojimbo will use Zanmato around 25% of the time with just 5000 gil, for those trying to tackle this stuff underleveled. With full compatibility and Grand Summon, it's about 32% for 5000 gil.
Edit: it's 1/3 default, 1/4 at zero, and about 1/2.5 with full compatibility. And it's 512 gil, not 5000.
I find it funny if i decide to use zanmato on someone like seymour. since he talks so much shit in every cutscenes and you just slice him in half with one hit. Even Tidus says "you talk too much seymour" during one the battles xD hahahaha
Ultimate version of Utlima and Omega. I don’t think I ever beat him but then again I got this game when I was 12 so lol. My favorite thing to do was raise everyone up in each new area until we overkilled every boss. Bro, I actually had the guide book from my local library to find all the celestial weapons. Fun times 👏🏼
Thats so cool lol i remember the first time i discovered celestial weapons. At first im like what is this useless no ap thing that i cant sell haha
@@2xMoon bro right?! Remember how hard it is to get each sigil. I used to be so try hard that I would try getting the one where you have to dodge 100 lightening bolts. Oh man I wanna go play now 🥲
You rearranged the whole grid??? Takes commitment 💀
Haha yep i have a template drawn out and nodes counted precisely enough to max stat and everything.
@@2xMoon thats crazy, I've never even completed one character's grid in my 14 years of playing this game , let alone that😂
*It's called PC gaming a.k.a cheats. Good luck doing this in consoles.*
@@datagrab no its 100% doable normally, just takes alot of work
@@datagrab its perfectly legit it would just probably take you 200 hours or so
Man, that's hardcore grinding right there.
lol i love how hes like "ugh... FINE... I'll put auto-life on.."
Hahahaha that is exactly how i felt
Spam dark yojimbo to get armor with 4 slot break HP limit, ribbon + 2 empty slot for auto protect & auto haste. Just don't defeat all dark yojimbo and you can back to cave to farm. Including dark matter & master sphere.
Poor dark yojimbo, getting trap in a loop, just to make a farming fiends for dark matter, weapons and armor
😂😂😂
All that work and it’s still a hard ass fight
I can't believe I used to have so much time that I could grind this
You didn't, and you most certainly did not "grind like this." You never came close to achieving anything near this. Stop lying your way through life.
Dude, what’s your problem? Plenty of people have maxed the sphere grid and beaten penance, it takes less than 200 hours to do.
@@rakakakarakakaka4907 post a video, liar
The Calm Lands are powerful!
They have the ability to hold every single Monster in the book!
And.....
Keep them from escaping!
I played this gams to death as a teenager and i can’t remember if i beat this guy but i likely did
And with 108Hours of gameplay you could beat nemesis too 😭
A lot had to do woth the PC versions 4x speed modifier. When i did this on console it took me over 350hours lol. Plus ive played this game end to end like 6 times so i can min max efficiently
@@2xMoon I'm at 198 hours on console😃 I have 4 dark aeons left and penance plus leveling luck stat and grinding the right armor
@@hitmanlegacy Nice! keep it up and goodluck :) try beat all 3 magus sisters in the same fight without zanmato afterwards. that's a challenge even with max stats lol
that’s gonna be awhile to get maxed out stats for that fight and I gotta manage to do everything in the bevelle cloister perfect before I get bahamut in order to get the aeon that “Seymour” uses
Damn you have played the game a lot. I kinda wish I started playing the steam version earlier instead of PS2 so I had old safefile I could play once in a while like this
I was never motivated enough to dodge a hundred lighning bolts
Wasn't it 200 lightning bolts?
Yeah, nope.
Rikku have not only 9999 potion,she have 99999 potion,too with her limit break.
Together with Auto-Portion its still different yo fight in speed and HP heal.
By they way i remember i always grind luck first in FF10,cos is a pain so i Starting it first.
Best Strategy: First completely activating Spero Table by Grind in Omega-Ruine,than grind luck and in the End Grind for empty spheres and 4 States gems.
Don Tombery Strategy is very useful for grind after one workround in Omega-Ruine.
1Million AP /per 15-20 Minutes.
But i find crafting weapons better than Solar ultimate weapon.
Yes i now they have ignore defense and HIGH CRIT, More Dmg by full Or High HP Bar.
But Ability like MP 0/1 for example are l way better than many solar weapon Abilities or defense 20% working even after 255 in scaling.
Best regards from Germany and good Gameplay i now how pain it is to grind this States bro *hug*
good insight and great tips, thanks! ive set up my playthrough based on how i find it fun but definitely there are many ways to reach and play the end game
Maxing out the sphere grid isn't too bad until you get to HP and Luck. The Giant, Earth Eater and bubble dude gets tedious after awhile.
so usually, like I'll get enough HP and luck to fight the dark aeons and call it quits. Maybe one day I'll really go through and max the damn thing.
@@koro527 haha yeah HP one wasnt too bad i just auto battle coz i was so strong that i dont die at that point and the the spheremorpth was super annoying but atleast you only needed about 30 battles to get all the luck spheres you need.....but earth eater oh my god....i was doing the set OD mode to victor, kill 2 dingos, attack reels to knock him down and then quick hit it to death repeat 200+ times
Lots of nostalgia in this video. Your overdrive mode should have been set different, Warrior or something. Continuing to watch probably should have also used overdrives lol.
It is set to warrior but i think i got cursed. I wanted to showcase the fight without using aeons or OD otherwise its too easy lol
This man grinded the luck spheres. That alone should be the achievement!!!
yep... 60 luck spheres and 420 fortunte spheres...
Probably spend like 20 odd hours playing this game the first time in 2003 to beat it. Don't think would have the time to grind this out to get max specs. Might be much easier to use a hack to max the specs and get the auto life and ultimate weapons. Still the bosses are crazy.
He's taking a lot of crotch hits. Tough boss. 👍
Took me 30hour to full grind max hp other stats is easy to grind but grinding luk into the max is the real pain
How does it feel to spend 30 hours of your life to that task
@@longebane super boring af, but its much better compared to grinding luk
I think you're lying.
Maxing most stats isn't too bad. Though maxing HP and Luck takes forever. So satisfying once you get there though.
Not really if you know the trick
You wouldn't know if it's satisfying or not bc you never did it. Stop lying.
I wonder what the devs intended these superbosses if it not were Don Tomberry farming and sphere farming. No "casual" playing style would defeat any of these things.
Most would max the SG, but casually erasing and placing +4 attribute nodes is crazy
I use a 9999 build for the end of the game. Easier to fill overdrives. Then use multihit overdrives like tidus and wakka.
Indeed and the ability to fully heal much more easily. Break HP limit in 10 was more of a hinderance than a help tbh.
Break HP Limit is a big waste of slots in the Sphere Grid. Max defense + Max Luck + Auto Protect can keep you alive against almost anything, and it's a lot easier to keep your celestial weapons within the max damage HP.
@@nekogod Depends how you build. I have one tank character (Kimhari) with Break HP Limit/Ribbon/Auto Phoenix/Auto Protect with Dancer Limit mode as his Ultimate Weapon has Evade and Counter, i just leave him in Sentinel stance most of the time so he soaks most of the damage going on the group and can survive basically anything.
Whenever he has his limit i just Entrust it to whoever else i need it on at the time (usually Yuna to use Anima's Oblivion, otherwise Wakka/Tidus if i don't feel like sitting in the summon's animation lol and sometime Rikku if i need Hyper Mighty G in a pinch).
On more offensive characters i agree its kinda wasted.
@@jonathanabgrall6075 I always played the end game with pretty much 6 times the same character (except for overdrive). I like your take on it with the tank, although I think it's clearing speed will be slower. You'd also need to grind longer for hp and other spheres just so 1 out of 6 has more hp. So it's sounds inefficient, but more fun in role-play.
@@Vincrand Oh yeah its def not a speedrun strat or anything. Nowadays i play games just to relax :P
It does save me time on other annoying grinds like Ribbon on all my characters or stuff like that tho.
The amount of grinding to accomplish a complete sphere grid for every party member gahdahmn
This fight can be completed in half the time or less if the person playing uses their heads, starts with full overdrive, and actually uses them. 🙄
That sphere grid was very neat though, kudos to that
Nemesis be like: Why do I hear boss music playing?
Thought you said max stats not everything 255 i love this i did this on my ps2 lol
haha maybe my title is slightly misleading but as you know theres not enough spheres slots on the grid for it...evasion at 30 plus 255 luck already caps out your evasion rate so i just chucked the rest into accuracy.
It mustve taken close to 300-400 hours on ps2 for you
@@2xMoon ya i gave up for bit around 350 hrs
Legends say Nemesis is still drying his nails painting to this day...
Hmm. I used to farm limits on all characters and use entrust to Waka who was spamming Attack Reels like crazy. Much faster approach.
yep that would be a faster way but like i mentioned in the description i wanted to show case that you can do it without overdrives or aeons with ease when you have max stats
No you didn't. You saw that "strat" in another video or in a guide or something and added it into your reply here as though you knew by firsthand experience. Admit this was a lie and just congratulate the guy on what he accomplished.
i played ffx tons of times but never got to beat omega ruins because i was so under level, this time i'm determined to be somewhat be overpower and beat all the bosses
But Nemesis counters with Ultima for each overdrive used
What it looks like to fight nemesis with maxed out stats: *B R I B E*
This is def not max stats. Even rikku does max damage with any given attack. They all do.
Grinding for this always takes an eternity... Glad there's actually ways to kill every boss in the game (penance included) without going past 9999 HP, which cuts off a good chunk of the grind.
But it's a trick that heavily requires Rikku's mix. It'd negate the "no overdrives" part of this.
Yo Jimbo just cut him in half
@@SledgehammerEditing that's what he doesn't want to do.
zanmato is just the biggest cheese and as DarkKefka puts it "saying that you suck"... and I believe him on that.
using zanmato is basically a give up tactic in my opinion
@@DarkFrozenDepths lol Rikku cheese isn't?
@@SledgehammerEditing not as much as zanmato ending any and all fights instantly...
you still have to try with rikku... zanmato is basically an instant win since literally nothing can withstand it's instant kill
again, you didn't even try the fight with zanmato. plus while rikku's mix is overpowered, it's not guaranteed to let you win, especially against a lot of the harder fights like the dark aeons
there's no defending zanmato. it's the biggest copout in the game for a reason. it's for people who can't win the fight.
@@SledgehammerEditing i mean if u watch someone like dansg08 he basically beat the whole game including penance without going overboard and under 80 hours. All you need really is three stars, ultra null all, hyper mighty g, attack reels, and 255 str, atleast about 75 luck and 255 agility.
I tell you the answer: it's a joke. I always do 255 on everything, then MP 999 then the remaining to the HP, which is about 70K. There is no way any enemy in this game can kill your party one hit but Penance, and for that to happen is kinda difficult because you have to play really bad.
This is my favourite game, but I wouldn't mind for it to be a little more difficult overall, and since it's not using ATB system and let's you have time choosing your commands, I would put some extra AI on these superbosses to be more smart and hit harder, so you can't never guess what they are going to do. The fun of a superboss is to not knowing if you're going to defeat it, no matter how buffed you are :)
Is 255 luck necessary? I think I read on a forum that after about 100 you reach the point of diminishing return
it's not necessary but having 1 luck is the same as having 1 accuracy and 1 evasion amongst a few other hidden stats so rather than max two different stats you can do it in one. 100 Luck is a good baseline in my opinion to do well against most end game content. generally you can beat arena bosses with 150-170 stats but i'm a completionist :P
It is incredibly time consuming because Earth Eater (fortune spheres) and Greater Sphere (luck sphere) cannot be easily killed with mindless attacks...
Magic is useless tbh. I ended up with 255 in luck accuracy and evasion and took from magic
you know its OG when kimahri is less than lvl 10
My right thumb feels your pain seeing the 99999 HP stat on all characters XD
How did you change nodes on the sphere grid from what they originally were, is this a hacked version?
There are 2 grid you can choose when you start the game, original and expert. Of course each has their pros and cons
there's an item in the end game called "clear sphere" that you can buy from the monster arena which you can erase a node and replace it with a better one. no hacks needed just takes a bloody long time lol because it requires a lot of game knowledge and preparation (i.e. 3xAP 3xOD OD>AP weapons to get sphere levels fast, capturing 10 of every monster to unlock bosses, kottos sphere extractions to get power/magic/speed spheres etc.)
The fact that you didn't even use a single item or Overdrive......
I've never stat maxed my HP. It looked like Curaga was a waste of time. It'd be more beneficial to just let the character die and then cast Full Life on them.
The real question is: how long did it take you to max all stats?
My latest save file i did it in under 90hrs from starting the game then killed all the side bosses and finished the game in 96 hrs or so.
Stats maxing alone probably took 50hrs if we incl monster capturing. Even on PCs 4x speed. Im thinking of making vids/guides on it to show my progression method
@@2xMoon yes please
I find it harder to fight him with 99,999 with the armor setup you have, than just Auto Phoenix and 9,999.
Bich stop lying🤣
@@anagramconfirmed1717 no I mean instead of break hp limit, auto Phoenix + having 99 Mega Phoenixes. Keep the rest the same. Max stats, celestial weapons, and armor setup minus that one switch. I still have this game and my old save on PS2. I know what I'm talking about
@@RamzaBeoulve02 then post a video or ur a liar. It certainly sounds to me like ur lying.
@@anagramconfirmed1717 i don't do videos. This is simply for watching content, not posting it 🤷♂️
Then, even if i did, there's no guarantee you'd watch it or that i would remember to reply to you to let you know it's ready. I'm telling you that it's possible and that i did it. Dunno what to tell you man. Auto Haste + Auto Phoenix with Auto Protect and Auto Shell (or DeathProof instead of Auto Shell when i made an armor specifically for Wakka against Earth Eater). Worked for me. Dunno what to tell you. I likely don't even have those armors anymore because i sold things i didn't need. I fought so much that i got full on armor and weapons, so i had to sell a lot. I'm sure I have over 700 game hours in that profile. I can maybe do pics but a video? Nah.
@@RamzaBeoulve02 post a video
This isn’t as bad as the FF12 super boss but this is still ridiculous 😭
I only played the Zodiac version, he's a bit easier there.
I personally found Yiazmat not so challenging. The issue with FFXII is called Wither, breaks the game easily, and Yiazmat is a good Wither-eater.
I vaguely remember it. My buddy in college did everything in ff12. I believe his playtime was 145hrs. It only took him 10 days.
@@rustyjones7908 Dude Yiazmat was a bitch. I spent 120 hours in FF12 and got all my characters to level 99 with all the ultimate weapons and it still took me four hours to beat Yiazmat and he made me go through TWO HUNDRED Phoenix Downs. I shit you not.
@@clintferguson6599 Zodiac or the Original version?
That sphere grid is ridiculous
I whooped Nemesis. Use aeons as meat shields - that’s it.
We used the guide and cleaned this game inside out! 😂❤
It would have been hilarious if you did this for a few minutes, then instantly cut to a Zanmato
hahaha i was tempted coz it got so boring just whacking him but im really stubborn/persistent lol
It would’ve been nice if they had other secret boss is throughout the Final Fantasy games that we just ran across. That would be so very interesting.
do you mean bosses that appeared in previous games? Omega weapon does makes a reappearance from FF8
@@2xMoon no my bad what I meant to say is it would be cool to find some lore in going into these old games and still finding secrets but in 2023 we pretty much have all of that accomplished
@@georgeguero6138 so true haha but you never know.. in FF9 they discovered a hidden cutscene like a decade after its release
@@2xMoon just cause I feel like you know what you’re talking about. I’ve only played Final Fantasy seven and eight and I’m currently playing it. What would you recommend for me in the next final fantasy series that has a lot of those secrets or battles ext like final fantasy 7 does
@@georgeguero6138 if you like hidden challenges and exploration to find optional bosses/items then I'd suggest FF12. Ive sunk 250hrs on one run on PS2 and i still havent got half of the stuff lol there's so much side content for example there's a boss that can takes hours to kill and bosses that only spawn after certain conditions (e.g. weather, game clock time etc)
Oh how I miss the turn based, strategic FFs like this 😢.
Best final fantasy ever period.
If he is that hard makes you wonder how hard he's going to be at lower levels...
to be fair by the time you unlock him you should be able to take him on since you need to beat every other arena boss atleast once.... unless you relied on zanmato lol
yup, i remember doing this on the original ps2 game way back then. maxed everyone out, and just spammed auto-life and quick hit. killed him in probably about 10 minutes.
Interesting note, tho, he's affected by Doom status. :D Hilariously, tho, the counter starts at 255 instead of something lower like on most enemies that can be affected by the spell. I killed him before it got halfway there XD
I did this on ps3 but only maxed 4 characters and im sure i was hitting 300 hours. How you manage this in just 108 hours lmao
haha when i did it on PS2 it took me over 350hrs too. PC version has a 4x speed feature which makes monster capturing much faster
Paying Yojinbo....and it's done in seconds.
My fav summon! Besides the dark mummy thing (sorry everyone can’t remember name😭)
100% with small-sphäro. I only reckognized it because I cant 255 all stats. Now in FFX is nothing left :( I wishe I can particial-deleting parts of my memory (aswell as for Zelda)
I was amazed by your sphere grid, after that i realized that you beated the whole content in 108h. Now i am wondering how that is even possible, can you enlighten me?
i did it on the HD remaster which has an option to 4x speed and increased encounters. Helped a lot with monster capturing which is the part that usually takes the longest. I did this on PS2 once and it took over 250hrs
That Sphere Grid was the real star
I never fought him without max stats. Was kinda just the norm I thought?
i remember that shit. I did all trophys on ps4. Took a while farming everything.
Wait, so remastered version could surpass HP 10k more?
If i remember correctly, PS2 only cap 9999
nope you were always able to go over 9999HP as long as you have break hp limit on your armour. dark aeons drop amour with break hp limit or alternatively you can craft one using 30x wings to discovery which you can get from killing shinryu from monster arena. maybe i should start making guides hahaha
I'm curious how you maxed out in just over 100 hours
Lot of game knowledge on how to min max and 4x speed on pc version while monster hunting
being in yellow health with 45,000 hp left is pretty funny
Holy cow..at maxed level this party is the strongest being in this whole ffX universe😖😖not even a god would stand a chance against this team💥💥💥😆😆😆
Have you heard of Absolute Virtue? The most notorious superboss in FF history.
Congrats, great fight!
*shoves a quarter in Yojimbo’s pocket* You know what to do