Dostie’s View #38 | Telemark Technique
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- Опубліковано 7 вер 2024
- Dostie shares a Telemark technique tip he picked up from Ryan Overstake last April while skiing at the Boat - Steamboat. This is good for 75mm and NTN, but is particularly valid for NTN.
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About: Craig Dostie is truly a pioneer of backcountry and telemark media. He was the founder and Editor-in-Chief of Couloir Magazine from 1988 until 2007. His publishing company at the time also created Telemark Skier Magazine in 2003. He has contributed to countless articles on the subject of backcountry & telemark skiing and is the one that coined the term EARN YOUR TURNS. He’s a true legend of Telemark.
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Wow! Beautiful, graceful telemark skiing!
Yes, thanks
Would love to see more like this. I’d like to see a modern video version of Allen and Mikes tips.
Noted!
what this guy said ^
Steering - uphill knee cap is a headlight that points in the direction I want ro go. For the most part I think that automatically puts weight on the little toe especially if you are then driving downhill ski into turn.
Great tip (especially appreciate the note on NTN). Ryan has beautiful technique.
I'm getting 22designs outlaws mounted up, so I had to alpine ski (boo!) for the first time in about 6 years and WOW, I actually do weight the inside pinky toe because my alpine turns were complete garbage for a few runs! I also laughingly tried to drop a knee on the first turn almost every time after stopping haha - hoping my skis are done by the weekend!
And if people aren’t sure why, it’s because it’s the shin of the rear leg that pushes on the cuff and bends the boot and pushes the rear ski onto the snow. Once you go too low then the heel comes too high, and you get toe launch. Similar happens to the front ski, the further the hips go behind the front ski then pressure comes off the front of the ski and towards the rear
On the back foot, I put things in airplane terms. So think of Roll and Yaw of the back ski (you don't really have pitch). Then I think about the weight on the back ski, which is really not so much about the weight itself but much more about where my center of mass is between the two ski boots and how far apart my boots are.
I think calling what Killington has right now “snow” is really pushing the limits of the definition of the word!
Try skiing in Australia. We often ski on piste on machine made ice. People in the USA and EU would not be able to do it. The resort management would probably close the piste!.
@@MisterTMH No matter where you are in the world, the locals think they have the toughest, most bad-ass, unique conditions…”Nowhere else has steeps/ice/powder/cliffs/crud/etc. like we do, and nobody can ski it as well as we can!” Which is, of course, absolute B.S.! Good skiers have seen all the aforementioned conditions and can take them all in stride…and many ski areas can check all those boxes at some point in the season.
Nice video! Keep the tips coming please!
Great video
Thanks!
nice video ! I'm an xc ski'er, both classic and skate, but have never done telemark. When you start the turn, are you moving 1 leg forward, or is it more the case of moving 1 leg backward ?
The outer ski should lead a "scissor" like movement
Before you commit to the turn you should be shuffling both skis facing down the fall line( a balance and confidence drill in itself ) so you do not overweight the down hill ski . The back ski needs to be well weighted and kept close to the lead ski for stability and that helps you anticipate the lead ski switch.If you cannot link Telemark turns well then you tend to complete the turn 180 degrees and stop facing up the fall line. At Ski resorts here in Australia Telemark skiers are the minority using the lifts but they/ we are the cool people IMHO. ;-) . I have come from Classic XC to Telemark. I like it !.
Really, you’re sinking between your legs….concentrating on purposely moving one leg forward (or backward) usually leads to weight distribution problems. Many beginners have trouble committing enough weight to their rear ski because they think they have to slide their front ski way too far forward; so by default all their weight ends up on that forward ski, leading to a “fake-a-mark” that will only let them skid a turn on moderate, packed snow.
Why go so low? Once the rear knee drops below the height of the rear heel, then you lose pressure and control of that ski. Yep, a talented telemarker can mask that effect, but it happens all the same
Well, that depends upon the pitch of the slope and how you’re angulating your upper body in relation to that pitch. When I want to go low, I simply “sit back” a little more into the slope. I find what you describe to be absolutely true… but only if my weight is too far forward. There’s a sweet spot.
Uphill ski = inside ski. I find uphill confusing, when you start the transition it is not uphill. And he, beautifully, rolls onto the new edge at the start of the turn..when it is not yet the rear foot. Terms can be very confusing.
ps, he is quite snappy in his transitions, I slowed the video to 50% to see fully his technique.
...and that was after I had already slowed it to 20% for the first turn, 40% for the second and third.
Yeah, easier to think rear ski or inside ski. After he mentioned weight on that inside ski, I was kind of surprised to see such a low stance, as I think that makes it harder to weight the inside. I like to have it tucked under me more, especially for quick turns.