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  • @proudlysouthafrican2981
    @proudlysouthafrican2981 Рік тому +22

    Which Sans is Maimane talking for. We will meet him at the polls. Come 2024. Hopefully Zimbabweans will vote for him. See you the Maimane.

    • @jameskillu9171
      @jameskillu9171 Рік тому

      @@paulinapatel LOL you have voted ANC for years, vote PA, and tomorrow you will realize, the party is not the problem, the foreigners were not the problem. There are no foreigners in Eastern cape, why is it that pure locals dont have jobs, why are their hospitals lacking medicine and facilities, why is education failing, why is infastructure crumbling. where are the companies and factories. created by local south africans in Eastern cape How many cities has PA developed, Can they make Easter cape another Cape town,

    • @WalterWhite-bc8ck
      @WalterWhite-bc8ck Рік тому +5

      Vote PA

    • @rosecroco2787
      @rosecroco2787 Рік тому

      bla bla bla bla sing the national anthem we are tired of you playing victims

  • @maxobaayakhawulezatv9627
    @maxobaayakhawulezatv9627 Рік тому +25

    Lets Vote PA south africans please,lets let Gayton solve this issue for us. Malema,DA and ANC they will all not help us.

    • @jameskillu9171
      @jameskillu9171 Рік тому

      Gayrton is a convicted gangsrer who raped, killed many to steal their money, he say he will suspend the laws and constitution, to rule like a dictator, who is ready for this except his fellow gangsrers,rapists, murderers, robbers, criminals, who will steal companies, mines, business, from people

    • @truth-Hurts375
      @truth-Hurts375 Рік тому

      You are a dreamer...

    • @WalterWhite-bc8ck
      @WalterWhite-bc8ck Рік тому +4

      I'm with you. I'm voting PA. 🇿🇦

    • @collenrungano6716
      @collenrungano6716 Рік тому

      Yes, its your right to vote for him, but that man is more confused that anyone you know. What he is calling for is not practical and solves nothing. He is just lying to you for cheap votes. If he were to do it the situation can quickly become fluid

    • @tshepishochuene1280
      @tshepishochuene1280 Рік тому

      🇿🇦

  • @vezivezi6132
    @vezivezi6132 Рік тому +18

    This man called BOSA is useless.....VIVA PA AND ACTION SA❤❤❤❤

    • @RicksPhatPharm-vw2lb
      @RicksPhatPharm-vw2lb Рік тому

      FF+ much better and atleast it's a multiracial party, racist black youth however cannot vote whites on JHB however where Corne Mulder leads. It's sad but it shows the problem as Cape Town leader is Peter Mulder (colourd) and the have Zulu Leadership in KZN...
      2024 will change everything as black youth refuse to change its liberal marxist ideology.
      Even the FF+ is calling for foreigners to leave, atleast they have the capacity to do this. PA and ASA don't, they calling for everyone to ho to the army, something noone is going to do! You don't send a nation to the army if you cannot incentivise them. How is the PA going to incentivise the Zulu,Boer and Colourd? How is the PA or ASA going to remove DA and keep western europe out of the Economy. Noone can take black youth Serious

    • @mokone4758
      @mokone4758 Рік тому +4

      These zimbos think it’s gonna be Christmas forever in South Africa while we fold our arms and watch…they gonna see flames🤞🏾

    • @malverngara-es6vm
      @malverngara-es6vm Рік тому

      You think so??????

    • @rosecroco2787
      @rosecroco2787 Рік тому

      wena you are the useless one look at yourself in the mirror

    • @1.Mil.Views...Dendfamrecords
      @1.Mil.Views...Dendfamrecords Рік тому

      @@mokone4758 if you only knew how much multi million dollars by NGO,s are being put to make sure Zimbabweans are getting legalised in SA you wouldn't say this but let me 🤐🤐🤐

  • @thembi9645
    @thembi9645 Рік тому +37

    Gayton Mackenzie plz rescues us coz you’re the only one who seems to understand our pain 😢

    • @theyoungguy1147
      @theyoungguy1147 Рік тому +4

      🎯 gayton Mackenzie will “fix” this mess , at this rate Zimbabwe particularly ZANU-PF runs the show here in mzansi all because of stupid ANC politicians

    • @thembi9645
      @thembi9645 Рік тому +3

      @@theyoungguy1147 I swear they have a deal nd unfortunately we feel it coz we’re at the bottom….. coz what we see on our streeets is not normal to any African country ,it only happens here😥

    • @jameskillu9171
      @jameskillu9171 Рік тому

      Gayrton is a convicted gangsrer who raped, killed many to steal their money, he say he will suspend the laws and constitution, to rule like a dictator, who is ready for this except his fellow gangsrers,rapists, murderers, robbers who plan to steal business, mines, companies, factories, buildings, cars, from people

    • @bella357
      @bella357 Рік тому

      Lol

    • @rosecroco2787
      @rosecroco2787 Рік тому +1

      ​@@theyoungguy1147lol wow wow clap for yourself

  • @mamabo6085
    @mamabo6085 Рік тому +26

    Nobody is talking about poor South Africans.

    • @thembi9645
      @thembi9645 Рік тому +6

      Only Gayton Mckenzi feels our pain in this country 😢

    • @shadreckmugabe4841
      @shadreckmugabe4841 Рік тому

      Poor south Africans won't replace maths and physics teachers you want to include as illegal immigrants. This whole exercise is intended to sent a political message that non south africans are no longer wanted here, starting with the legal ones. If motsoaledi was serious about populism, he was supposed to start with illegal immigrants. In all honest, poor south africans won't benefit nothing at all, infact , they stand to benefit from prestige that yeah finally we kicked them out.

    • @rosecroco2787
      @rosecroco2787 Рік тому

      cry baby

  • @TreasureMacFee-ti2jf
    @TreasureMacFee-ti2jf Рік тому +16

    I think the SABC asked the public the question wrong.
    Government isn’t saying Zimbabweans shouldn’t be in SA, it’s saying all people including zembabweans seeking employment in SA should bring critical needed skills not basic skills that we have.
    This by the way is what the rest of the world is doing and has been doing.
    But because we’re South Africa, other Africans come to our country and demand we open our borders something that no african country is doing and we’re called Zeno bla for saying no!!

  • @zanelemnguni3454
    @zanelemnguni3454 Рік тому +31

    I am surprised that too much privilege is given to foreigners in South Africa as opposed to South Africans. How can our government be taken to court for this matter? Do we have same rights in Zim?

    • @barbaratanyanyiwa4652
      @barbaratanyanyiwa4652 Рік тому +5

      Yes human rights are universal you can exercise them anywhere and anytime. You guys forget that during apartheid era we were keeping you without any problems. As long as the SA government doesn't acknowledge that there is a crisis in Zimbabwe these migration problems will never end.

    • @JohnHaze4666
      @JohnHaze4666 Рік тому +10

      @@barbaratanyanyiwa4652 that's an old song and we know who really helped us it's Tanzanian,Zambia and Angola,what's surprising about the whole thing is they don't make noise and they are not in majority.

    • @ayobampilo5762
      @ayobampilo5762 Рік тому

      @@barbaratanyanyiwa4652 SLUMbaweans did nothing for SA in fact SA has been carrying SLUMbaweans for than 20 years

    • @jameskillu9171
      @jameskillu9171 Рік тому

      Stop being lazy,go to ths courts in Zim and test,

    • @AlbertMtshali-u1u
      @AlbertMtshali-u1u Рік тому +3

      Clearly we lack direction, security, accountability etc, l wish we had that old SA citizens who could stamp their authority and say enough is enough, not very long the government will be taken to court to allow foreigners to take our houses and we must go and stay in the streets

  • @mthokozisilanga4497
    @mthokozisilanga4497 Рік тому +20

    Vote the PA and this mess will be over.

    • @jameskillu9171
      @jameskillu9171 Рік тому

      PA members is for convidted gangsters who have killed, maimed, robbed many. Gayton say he will suspend the constitution,. I guess that is all needed by a gangster to create jobs

    • @truth-Hurts375
      @truth-Hurts375 Рік тому +1

      Keep dreaming !!!

    • @Chompkin
      @Chompkin Рік тому

      Gray will always be gray

    • @thaboxhalisile1773
      @thaboxhalisile1773 Рік тому +1

      that is so true

    • @musawenkosimakhoba9028
      @musawenkosimakhoba9028 Рік тому +2

      I'm in. I like the PA and don't see why one would not vote for it.

  • @Tinker8531
    @Tinker8531 Рік тому +12

    No, Maimaine we do not pay extra tax in the UK, we just cannot take a job that a British person can have. Go look at their legislation properly before talking.

    • @jameskillu9171
      @jameskillu9171 Рік тому

      come home and take jobs in Eastern cape, There are no foreiigners there

    • @nomawethumqina3270
      @nomawethumqina3270 Рік тому

      You obsessed about eastern cape wena msunu wekwerekwere likamugabe .unukisa ikhwapha le ko Eastern Cape now 🤧🤮your Armpits

  • @musawenkosimakhoba9028
    @musawenkosimakhoba9028 Рік тому +11

    Zimbambweans are very vocal to the government of South Africa, not of Zim.

    • @rosecroco2787
      @rosecroco2787 Рік тому

      yes we are what are you going to do ?? stop blaming us for your laziness

    • @rosecroco2787
      @rosecroco2787 Рік тому

      yebo yes

    • @tafadzwamubvakure3488
      @tafadzwamubvakure3488 Рік тому

      If you followed Zim politics you would know that your claim is untrue

  • @will9751
    @will9751 Рік тому +14

    The host lost the debate totally. The issue about ZEP is about regularising the stay of ZEP holders. The Minister never said people must pack and go. The ZEP is not a standard or legal immigration document. Besides ZEP holders came here to seek political home. The political situation has improved. There’s no war in Zimbabwe. Don’t argue this economically it’s a political problem

    • @jameskillu9171
      @jameskillu9171 Рік тому

      Let us educate this ignorant xenophobe for free - war can be physical, psychological, biological, economical etc. Tell us which one ended in Zimbabwe, we give you further free lessons

  • @njabulodesign1623
    @njabulodesign1623 Рік тому +27

    This has to be a joke right ? I’ve never seen a show so bias 😂😂😂- Where South Africans consulted when they made this ZEP and kept on extending this permit ? Well we are watching this country being sold through the courts and the constitution ,right before our eyes - Also who is Mmusi Maimane speaking for?👀

    • @jameskillu9171
      @jameskillu9171 Рік тому

      To all Xenophobes, what permit do you need to work and live in ORANIA, were you consulted when ORANIA was created

    • @frankchinembiri2302
      @frankchinembiri2302 Рік тому

      Your fight is misdirected. Foreign nationals who are African are not your problem. The problem you have is the investors from Asia. They came to loot and go develop their countries while you guys are focusing on African refugees. Asians are looting South Africa the same way they are looting Zimbabwe. Be vigilant people...

  • @JohnHaze4666
    @JohnHaze4666 Рік тому +8

    This was a Zimbabwe program it has nothing to do with us.

    • @rosecroco2787
      @rosecroco2787 Рік тому +1

      it has everything to do with u

    • @JohnHaze4666
      @JohnHaze4666 Рік тому

      @@rosecroco2787in what sense

    • @rosecroco2787
      @rosecroco2787 Рік тому

      @@JohnHaze4666 go figure

    • @JohnHaze4666
      @JohnHaze4666 Рік тому +1

      @@rosecroco2787 well it looks like you just want to make a conversation for the sake of it I'm not your child that you can send me to do things for you.until you know what you are trying to say just keep quiet.

    • @rosecroco2787
      @rosecroco2787 Рік тому +1

      @@JohnHaze4666 👏 I'm busy at work don't have time to argue with fools sorry....take care don't waste your time replying 🙂.

  • @ManteMumty
    @ManteMumty Рік тому +14

    When you need votes, remember where your loyalty is, we have been unemployed for too long as South Africans and no one is fighting for us, shame on you selfish leaders who can not care for its starving population 😢
    Great leaders never down play the cry of their followers or else they will surely revolut

    • @tatendawilson3057
      @tatendawilson3057 Рік тому

      Whether this 180k send back what guarantee you have to secure a job.whether they go or not you still be unemployed. Government does not create job.

    • @pakisoramatlo5556
      @pakisoramatlo5556 Рік тому

      True

  • @laurencemakgabo1766
    @laurencemakgabo1766 Рік тому +19

    But what about the South Africans who are not working because it seems as if Zimbabweans issues are taken more seriously

    • @rosecroco2787
      @rosecroco2787 Рік тому +2

      first of stop blaming zimbabweans for laziness be creative

    • @MbongeniGumede
      @MbongeniGumede Рік тому +1

      ​@@rosecroco2787You nailed it😂😂 Why do you say you have no job while you are sitted

  • @seitswadidikgale2408
    @seitswadidikgale2408 Рік тому +26

    We owe zimbabiens nothing

    • @jameskillu9171
      @jameskillu9171 Рік тому +3

      who said you owe us, go develop Eastern cape with the money you have, create cities there, create jobs for locals since there are no foreigners there

    • @maxobaayakhawulezatv9627
      @maxobaayakhawulezatv9627 Рік тому

      Why you do not go develop Zimbabwe,since you claim to be smart than others.The is also cities in Zimbabwe why you do not go use your intelligents there.Harare is the big dirty city there but you are busy fighting to be a south african.

    • @mokone4758
      @mokone4758 Рік тому +5

      Don’t worry patriot, they are going to be dealt with properly

    • @thabangtladi8057
      @thabangtladi8057 Рік тому

      @@jameskillu9171 what have you built for yourselves in Zimbabwe for the past 40 years of independency or you think SAcn should built more hospitals for kwerekwere's to continue giving birth like rats in SA or what?

    • @thembi9645
      @thembi9645 Рік тому

      @@jameskillu9171 who do u think you are telling me what to do in my own country, I can go anywhere and do whatever I want in my country. Go tell all Zimbabwe to go fix their Rural stinky areas nd stay out of Dirty Harare. In my Eastern we have proper housing and farming we don’t starve Luke you In Zimbabwe
      Get out of my country we are sick nd tired of you guys, go make noise to your dictator President ……

  • @maudymharapara4186
    @maudymharapara4186 Рік тому +1

    Dr Sibanda, well spoke

  • @NinohBrown
    @NinohBrown Рік тому +11

    And people say DA was racist for getting rid of Maimane, can't take a stand for SAns

    • @mthokozisilanga4497
      @mthokozisilanga4497 Рік тому

      This is the stance of the DA, the DA wants illegal immigrants, DA ‘s Gwen called Mashaba Zenophobia. Its only the PA that will solve this mess not the DA or anyone.

    • @jameskillu9171
      @jameskillu9171 Рік тому

      just because you are xenophobic anc he refused to join your evil club

  • @johannesndlovu6351
    @johannesndlovu6351 Рік тому +4

    If they are fighting in a wrong country, haw can they get Zim fixed if they are crying in a wrong platform, they must go back and fixed their own countries, that's all

  • @lefachris125
    @lefachris125 Рік тому +10

    I thought Mmusi Maimane was a bright leader, how wrong I was
    The ANC must make sure that these people whom have now become a burden of poor South Africans whilst they benefit the rich with their cheap labour leave our country - they must leave with immediate effect
    South Africa has so much foreigners even from countries like Bangladesh because our government allows it, this must come to and end
    Let us stop negotiating with these people, by these people I mean these foreigners and the ANC

    • @bryanvassilatos1469
      @bryanvassilatos1469 Рік тому +2

      Make sense

    • @WNdaba
      @WNdaba Рік тому

      By initially choosing DA, his intelligence should have been questionable to you.

    • @jameskillu9171
      @jameskillu9171 Рік тому

      You are getting mad that Maimane has refused to join your club of loosers, the bitter xenophobes.

    • @rosecroco2787
      @rosecroco2787 Рік тому

      mnisi is a very intelligent man learn something from him he is his own boss wena while busy hating zimbabweans thina wena are busy building keep up with your nonsense 👍

    • @lefachris125
      @lefachris125 Рік тому +2

      ​​@@rosecroco2787e are all intelligent man that must learn something from each other, and you're very right that mnisi is his own boss not mine - calling for proper immigration control is not a hate of Zimbabwean builders but a simple and legal exercise of my political rights as a South African which you are not
      Your opinion is better saved for your government in Zimbabwe, where South Africans don't stick their noses

  • @stellairsara5220
    @stellairsara5220 Рік тому +8

    South African they might help Zimbabwean but let's say if they stayed for 12Year,what if now they don't want to go back to to their country who is going to rebuild their country cause our South African they don't have work, no place to stayand we South African when we go to Zimbabwe we need Visa although you people you people said we are all African, yes but help your people first then you can help your neighbor but you are wondering when they go to Europe Canada and America to seek for better life which them too they send us back to Africa then how are we going to call South Africa our home🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🙏🙏🙏??????

  • @oupamakola1685
    @oupamakola1685 Рік тому +17

    South Africa is under attack. Funny A bunch of Zimbabweans are intend on fixing South Africa, its laws, and its international obligations. The irony is too much.
    As for Pastor Maimane, I have no words...

  • @noks_mamshengu9106
    @noks_mamshengu9106 Рік тому +11

    This is nonsense

  • @proudlysouthafrican2981
    @proudlysouthafrican2981 Рік тому +19

    This s is a lesson to some of us that never ever help a foreigner like Zimbabweans. This is how they will thank you. Did the government consult the citizens when they offer them this permits. NO. But they want to be consulted. Lessons learnt.

    • @mthokozisilanga4497
      @mthokozisilanga4497 Рік тому +6

      Vote PA

    • @jameskillu9171
      @jameskillu9171 Рік тому

      we are lucky, we never needed your help. We all know it was you who needed the help of foreigners, We all know all the big cities, malls, companies, factories, roads, power stations, ports, rails, were build by foreigners. iF in doubt, in Eastern Cape where no foreigner go, the cities are undeveloped, there are no jobs, poverty is high. So why dont you take your help to Eastern cape, dear brother, let us see you make a cape town, a durban, a sundton there.

    • @collinphahlane7527
      @collinphahlane7527 Рік тому

      Evil

    • @rosecroco2787
      @rosecroco2787 Рік тому +1

      you want zimbabweans to kiss your feet ??

    • @tanyarue
      @tanyarue Рік тому +1

      Kkkkkk law does not work with emotions 😂😂😂tsano

  • @malusingongoma2830
    @malusingongoma2830 Рік тому +9

    You invited the wrong people here. The panel of guests is not balanced. Why did you leave out people like Gayton McKenzie or Ike Khumalo?

    • @jameskillu9171
      @jameskillu9171 Рік тому +1

      may be, they were in ORANIA, loolking for mines and minerals, buildings or what to steal. always remember these are convicted criminals, gangsrers, and they come with bad reputation. You dont want to expose children to gangsters

    • @rosecroco2787
      @rosecroco2787 Рік тому

      truth hates lol she lol get it together

  • @Sterfillah
    @Sterfillah Рік тому +4

    ANC is playing us! SABC is controlled by the ANC and Motsoaledi is ANC and the Justice system is ANC. Kudlaliwe ngathi

  • @laurencemakgabo1766
    @laurencemakgabo1766 Рік тому +10

    SABC is not balanced

    • @justicetshovhota3940
      @justicetshovhota3940 Рік тому +1

      Reason I stopped watching this channel. The professionalism on that channel leave a bitter taste in the mouth.

    • @jameskillu9171
      @jameskillu9171 Рік тому

      We are watching and happy,

    • @rosecroco2787
      @rosecroco2787 Рік тому

      I think you are talking about yourself

    • @laurencemakgabo1766
      @laurencemakgabo1766 Рік тому

      @rosecroco2787 "you think" not sure

  • @WalterWhite-bc8ck
    @WalterWhite-bc8ck Рік тому +6

    I'm definitely voting for PA😂 after a few seconds watching this

  • @jannybear7682
    @jannybear7682 Рік тому +2

    I'm really. puzzled here. why don't these foreigners. go their countries. and demand these rights that they think they have? South African vote wisely

  • @nomthandazotshabalala219
    @nomthandazotshabalala219 Рік тому +3

    There are lots of Zimbabweans on this panel. A lot of South africas are struggling, and no one cares. They will be a reckoning one of these days we are tired

  • @whitewitch2511
    @whitewitch2511 Рік тому +8

    This is nonsense.

  • @crfollower5719
    @crfollower5719 Рік тому +4

    Does SA budget for millions of foreigners for healthcare education and social services.

  • @WalterWhite-bc8ck
    @WalterWhite-bc8ck Рік тому +4

    Mass deportation

  • @Honeybee897
    @Honeybee897 Рік тому +8

    Mnisi Maimane is a rare gem. I urge people to recognize that. He has just touched the Zambian issue, true to the point

    • @jaquelineleepile5297
      @jaquelineleepile5297 Рік тому +3

      Sorry.they.must.go.home...they.tell.what.to.doo.in.ur.country.SA.wakeup.we.r.sinking

    • @michaelstamike
      @michaelstamike Рік тому

      Mnisi or Mmusi I am confused 🤔 here

    • @rosecroco2787
      @rosecroco2787 Рік тому

      @@jaquelineleepile5297 haàaaaaaaaaha ha haaaaaaa bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla until the cows come home 🏡 blaaaaaaa bla bla aaaaaaaaa.

  • @TRUTHSA-
    @TRUTHSA- Рік тому +13

    Wow! Journalism gone to the dogs. What kind of discussions are these? Scripted excuses that make no sense. SABC an embarrassment.😢

  • @musawenkosimakhoba9028
    @musawenkosimakhoba9028 Рік тому +7

    The guy in glasses. Halfway through the interview shows mind blowing entittlement. Demands SA government to negotiate on their behalf

    • @rosecroco2787
      @rosecroco2787 Рік тому +1

      yari yari yari

    • @PrettyHlela
      @PrettyHlela Рік тому

      Don't forget the same guy got to SA illigal but was given amnesty can you believe it

  • @iankhumalo942
    @iankhumalo942 Рік тому +5

    This world belong to Jesus christ ,to be alive is grace in the first place ,who are we , lets love one another look further than earth

    • @collinphahlane7527
      @collinphahlane7527 Рік тому

      Not at our expense.

    • @eskrywer2759
      @eskrywer2759 Рік тому

      Where was the world belong to Jesus when Zimbabweans chase white farmers

    • @MbongeniGumede
      @MbongeniGumede Рік тому

      Yes bro l wonder why some people still full of hate while you are still a sinner, Repent and surrender you life to the Jesus

  • @JamesBond-if1ho
    @JamesBond-if1ho Рік тому +3

    We've noticed that ATM's Zungula has been censored by the SABC.

  • @solomonsekgota8170
    @solomonsekgota8170 Рік тому +6

    Mxm mmusi ukhuluma udoti.

    • @rosecroco2787
      @rosecroco2787 Рік тому

      coz u r not intelligent enough to grasp what he is saying akungeni lol

  • @Sebastianmhera2214
    @Sebastianmhera2214 Рік тому +2

    When you are a visitor you must be a visitor I say go back to your house then goooooooo

  • @millionairesmile1430
    @millionairesmile1430 Рік тому +3

    So, rather fight the South African laws than fight your òppressivè government?

  • @roselejela7356
    @roselejela7356 Рік тому +2

    Machenzi will help us soon

  • @frankchinembiri2302
    @frankchinembiri2302 Рік тому

    President Mmusi Maimane is on to something. Something that will help SADC and Africa as a whole.

  • @kamolempe5303
    @kamolempe5303 Рік тому +2

    Africa unite, the wound of one is the wound of all.

  • @mokone4758
    @mokone4758 Рік тому +7

    I’m not suprised by Mmusi ‘s nonsense, he has always been useless😒

    • @jameskillu9171
      @jameskillu9171 Рік тому +1

      Mmusi is a man of great character, he has proved that you dont need to be evil to be blessed. love wins all the time,

    • @mokone4758
      @mokone4758 Рік тому +3

      @@jameskillu9171 even Nelson Chamisa is better than Mmusi Maimane, don’t you think so Zimbo boi?

  • @sellymargeret1948
    @sellymargeret1948 Рік тому +1

    PA is. going to lead this Banana country is going to come right viva P A SA ANC is stepping down.

  • @kgosimotsamai
    @kgosimotsamai Рік тому +9

    This is a Bunch of BS going here. I couldn't even finish watching.

    • @jameskillu9171
      @jameskillu9171 Рік тому +2

      You will come back and watch it, when your heart learn how to love, my dearest.

    • @rosecroco2787
      @rosecroco2787 Рік тому +1

      nobody forced you to watch blame your eyes and ears

    • @kgosimotsamai
      @kgosimotsamai Рік тому

      @jameskillu9171 Oh, please. You are considered undesirables in every country you go. What is there to love about you or admire??? You don't even love your own country. You've denigrated yourselves to being pests.

    • @kgosimotsamai
      @kgosimotsamai Рік тому

      @rosecroco2787 And nobody from SA forced you to come here. If you have any self-dignity, we shouldn't have to force you to leave. You've overstayed your welcome. Blame your leaders. Leave and stop imposing yourself on us.

    • @rosecroco2787
      @rosecroco2787 Рік тому

      @@kgosimotsamai first of all i dont live in SA I reside in Canada Second of all all immigrants in SA are allowed to apply for permanent residency after 5/10years thats the law...wena you want to treat immigrants like dogs 🐕 they are human beings with feeling consider that stop blaming innocent people for your laziness anyway why am I wasting my time explaining what you know ciao don't bother replying...

  • @maudymharapara4186
    @maudymharapara4186 Рік тому +2

    Tell them Maimane💃

  • @jamesncube6912
    @jamesncube6912 Рік тому

    very informative discussion ....great minds . Thanks to the panel & the host.........in summary if africa is to prosper DICTATORS must find no support & sympathy . Emigration problem will be half solved !!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @alroyprinsloo1586
    @alroyprinsloo1586 Рік тому +3

    It's ok let them get all the jobs in south Africa, but tax them and all who supports them, and pay unemployed south Africans with that money we fine we can stay at home and the can work but let them support us and our families

    • @bryanvassilatos1469
      @bryanvassilatos1469 Рік тому

      😂😂😂😂you would love that

    • @jameskillu9171
      @jameskillu9171 Рік тому

      Go to Eastern Cape, and wait for support from there. You will be living in a place with no foreigner to steal your job

  • @OniccaKgosana
    @OniccaKgosana 9 місяців тому

    Respect South African laws as much as you respect Zimbabwen laws , every country has its own laws ,those laws needs to be respected and followed

  • @SilenceNyamuzibgwa-uz2pq
    @SilenceNyamuzibgwa-uz2pq Рік тому

    Appreciated Mr president Mussi

  • @rostabusiswe1930
    @rostabusiswe1930 Рік тому +1

    Vot pA bantu kukhishwe le ANC umunswaleti udlalile ngabantu usezovula iboda manje asivoteleni PA viva PA

  • @sellomonama7797
    @sellomonama7797 Рік тому +1

    Dr. Motswaledi ist not a liability but an asset. Its painful to listen to people who are not even talking about the economic hardships faced by the South africans. The presenter didn't ask relevant questions. The DHA is not chasing ZEP holders back to their country, but requesting them to apply for mainstream Visas.

  • @InnocentNcube-ct8hs
    @InnocentNcube-ct8hs Рік тому +2

    Its a shame on u ccc guys and all zanu (ccc)fommer zanu and that zim lawyer who took home affairs minster 2 court .Us mthwakazian we thank s.african a million without this country u were gonna finish us when u were zanu pf gukurahundist

  • @johannesndlovu6351
    @johannesndlovu6351 Рік тому +1

    Now SAns will be under suctions, Zimbabwe runs to SA, now under the caming suctions where SAns gonna run to which country.

  • @TreasureMacFee-ti2jf
    @TreasureMacFee-ti2jf Рік тому +3

    How do you invite people who all agree on a show 😅

  • @maqhawepreyer709
    @maqhawepreyer709 Рік тому +1

    It's confusing how people continue to vote for eff bosa da and ifp while they don't put south african first if we can be well educated and not to following who is loud an famous

  • @iankhumalo942
    @iankhumalo942 Рік тому +4

    What the bibles says about how we treat foreigners

    • @modisemakokwe4256
      @modisemakokwe4256 Рік тому

      It says the foriegners must observ and follow the laws of host country not other way round

    • @pamelakhabo843
      @pamelakhabo843 Рік тому

      The Bible says foreigners will come and takeover your country, and you will end up working for them.Wake up South Africans 💪

    • @MbongeniGumede
      @MbongeniGumede Рік тому

      ​@@modisemakokwe4256 You are still deceived 😅

    • @modisemakokwe4256
      @modisemakokwe4256 Рік тому

      @@MbongeniGumede ok clever man😁

  • @amazingnebster6517
    @amazingnebster6517 Рік тому +1

    no one is for the interests of SA people

  • @stanleytshwale1263
    @stanleytshwale1263 Рік тому +2

    We should learn from China, UK and China

    • @jameskillu9171
      @jameskillu9171 Рік тому

      There is no country on earth that is developed by locals, from USA, Eutope, , Canada, even Dubai is growing because of foreigners. Without Boers, Britons, and ZIM expertriates, what would SA be Like.... Ntabankulu in the Eastern Cape.

  • @chiccoman
    @chiccoman Рік тому

    We are talking about about 100 000 people here. I have just buried a brother who is under this permit. Its not like the number of ZEP holders will increase, I don't see why this is much on an issue. In 2030 we might have less than 50 000 people under this permit and later it will be zero. I think people confuse this ZEP with Illegal migration. Unless otherwise this is done as part of campaigning for 2024.

  • @truth-Hurts375
    @truth-Hurts375 Рік тому +2

    Look at this boy...he sits in the political wilderness...with his big smile and smooth talking like Flatnose Ramaphosa and think he can come to the rescue .... Who on earth is funding this guy???

  • @luyandagatyana3621
    @luyandagatyana3621 Рік тому +1

    from all these plp who talking about this zep document thing
    no one did said anything about initiating the way in which the zimbabweans can endorse and secure their votes
    for their interested parties in Zim ,

  • @maudymharapara4186
    @maudymharapara4186 Рік тому

    Well spoken by the last speaker from the streets

  • @chuxch7293
    @chuxch7293 Рік тому +3

    SABC WHY ARE YOU NOT INTERVIEWING SOUTH AFRICAN WHO SRE AFFECTED BY ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS, THESE PEOPLE SHOULD FIGHT FOR THEIR COUNTRY, WE ARE NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR AFRICA

  • @stanleytshwale1263
    @stanleytshwale1263 Рік тому +1

    Okay
    Make them citizens but they should stop crossing the border as they wish. They should also stop burying each in Zim.

  • @iankhumalo942
    @iankhumalo942 Рік тому +3

    Its earthly to fight for vanity others did not make it to tdy lets be gratefull

  • @ludwembam3515
    @ludwembam3515 Рік тому +1

    But why can't this useless media interview SA citizens?

  • @sharonjames2041
    @sharonjames2041 Рік тому

    Western consept ❤AFRICA MUST KEEP FIGHTING EACH OTHER ❤✊🏿❤

  • @thatoram7872
    @thatoram7872 Рік тому +1

    What happened SABC? Why this debate is one sided? It's ridiculous and pointless.what are the patriotic learned leaders are saying. One team played against itself in this debate thts why it's pointless.

  • @roselejela7356
    @roselejela7356 Рік тому +1

    Why they dnt invest in their country mackenzi will help us sa

  • @thaboncube6991
    @thaboncube6991 Рік тому +1

    It has come to light that the holders of Zimbabwean Exemption Permits (ZEP) have children who were born in South Africa. If the government were to terminate these permits, it would lead to the unfortunate separation of families, which directly violates human rights and goes against the principles outlined in the Bill of Rights, rendering such termination unconstitutional.

    • @ludwembam3515
      @ludwembam3515 Рік тому +3

      That doesn't make them South African citizens. Some migrants do come to SA hospitals to give birth and do you think that make those children South African children?

    • @thaboncube6991
      @thaboncube6991 Рік тому +1

      @@ludwembam3515 How should we refer to the descendants of white Europeans who settled in South Africa in the 1600s and were born in the country? Should we consider them foreigners as well?

    • @ludwembam3515
      @ludwembam3515 Рік тому

      @@thaboncube6991 But you not answering me chief. Your people come here every now and then to give birth at South Africans tax payers expenses. So you want our government to give them Id's? Uyahlanya.

    • @michelkakeya3825
      @michelkakeya3825 Рік тому +1

      A child born in SA from both any foreign parents are not south african at birth.However they are eligible to become citizen when they reach 18 if they can prove they never lived anywhere else except SA.White SAns been in SA since 1600.

    • @thaboncube6991
      @thaboncube6991 Рік тому

      @@michelkakeya3825 You are 100% correct

  • @promisemagoma3558
    @promisemagoma3558 Рік тому +1

    Mmusi looks like Charles Taylor of Liberia

  • @Chompkin
    @Chompkin Рік тому +2

    That Maimane guy is Brilliant he is an International leader

    • @collinphahlane7527
      @collinphahlane7527 Рік тому

      Like Malema, they make sense only to foreigners.

    • @WalterWhite-bc8ck
      @WalterWhite-bc8ck Рік тому +4

      His not a South African leader that's for sure

    • @rosecroco2787
      @rosecroco2787 Рік тому

      @@WalterWhite-bc8ck you are not south african

    • @WalterWhite-bc8ck
      @WalterWhite-bc8ck Рік тому +1

      @@rosecroco2787 I have an ID to prove you otherwise

    • @1.Mil.Views...Dendfamrecords
      @1.Mil.Views...Dendfamrecords Рік тому +1

      @@WalterWhite-bc8ck yeh we know you have to be xenophobic or anti African for you to be considered south African anyone whose Pan African is deemed not San

  • @Dupedupedean
    @Dupedupedean Рік тому +3

    Musi Maimane makes a lot of sense!

  • @kennymaringa621
    @kennymaringa621 Рік тому

    Musi ìs right

  • @Tinker8531
    @Tinker8531 Рік тому +2

    Those SANS Maimaine I need to remind you is on high skill job permits.

  • @OniccaKgosana
    @OniccaKgosana 9 місяців тому

    Those that have run from zim during the ruin of Mogabe are now free to can go home cause Mogabe is no more .Thave have got no more bush to bit about , theirs is just to pack and go . The state of South Africans now are the same as theirs when they decided to flee their country. No jobs, poor heath system, crouded schools ,poor service delivery so let our goverment deal with those things for its own people

  • @jameskillu9171
    @jameskillu9171 Рік тому +3

    Without Boers, Britons, and ZIM, people jburg, capetown, Durban, would possibly be like another. Ntabankulu in the Eastern Cape. Those who say foreigners are taking jobs away, there are no foreigners in Eastern Cape, why dont they all have jobs.....why are the pure locals not developing their land,

    • @thabangtladi8057
      @thabangtladi8057 Рік тому

      go back home you are not cursed by SAcn

    • @kathoruscommunityyouthforu9272
      @kathoruscommunityyouthforu9272 Рік тому

      You are talking nonsense. Why can't you develop your country and stop being nonsense in other people's country

    • @WalterWhite-bc8ck
      @WalterWhite-bc8ck Рік тому +3

      😂😂😂 no foreigners. Wat rock are you living under

    • @thabangtladi8057
      @thabangtladi8057 Рік тому

      @@WalterWhite-bc8ck no illegal foreigners, and the legal ones their number should be also limited coz we really dont like having you in our country but the way you are so desperate you wont understand that we have the right to say what we want and what we dont want in our own country

  • @maudymharapara4186
    @maudymharapara4186 Рік тому

    Tell them Dr Ncube

  • @innocentc.3521
    @innocentc.3521 Рік тому

    SA never hit its reset button so these problems will persist

  • @SilenceNyamuzibgwa-uz2pq
    @SilenceNyamuzibgwa-uz2pq Рік тому

    Mmmm,26th African union go 'n listen what the late Robert Mugabe said.

  • @AlbertMtshali-u1u
    @AlbertMtshali-u1u Рік тому +4

    Our country is in the state of decay because of these neighbors they are not clean shame

  • @valentinemasuku8153
    @valentinemasuku8153 Рік тому +2

    his is one off the most horrible interviews ive ever seen everyone just agreeing with each other

  • @abiem8943
    @abiem8943 Рік тому

    The comments prove that South Africans are not amused 😂..you celebrated Human rights coz it allowed gays freedom but you didn't know that it protects immigrants

  • @Psciyentist
    @Psciyentist Рік тому +4

    SA should annex all of SADC, then we can all be tax paying South Africans.

    • @WNdaba
      @WNdaba Рік тому

      NO. We will never know peace. Some Nations cannot coexist. Ever

    • @jameskillu9171
      @jameskillu9171 Рік тому

      What are you waiting for, vuvuzela?

    • @michaelstamike
      @michaelstamike Рік тому

      Backwards mid

  • @solngoasheng7816
    @solngoasheng7816 Рік тому +2

    SABC is so biased, they even hand picked a few foreigners for their comments without touching any SAcan. So pathetic. I normally do not watch such programmes.

  • @southafrica9179
    @southafrica9179 Рік тому +1

    South Africans should create their own jobs, and stop asking for government handouts.... Arts and crafts, making food, cleaning services, garden services, dilivery services, tuck shops ect, ect.... I know plenty Zimbabweans who have created employment for south Africans.. stop blaming others for your own failures...

  • @kainosmafekeni1937
    @kainosmafekeni1937 Рік тому +5

    Yes Miamaine teach everyone to understand immigration policies only Aaron must document people instead of fighting those already documented to know who is who, criminal or not. Criminals do not want to be documented so are giving them a lifeline to mix with innocent people

    • @collinphahlane7527
      @collinphahlane7527 Рік тому +2

      How you document illegal mogrants.

    • @mokone4758
      @mokone4758 Рік тому +5

      Go home kwerekwere

    • @kainosmafekeni1937
      @kainosmafekeni1937 Рік тому

      We are talking about zep holders not illegal immigrants do not mix issues going home is not a solution here people must know also that South Africans are in other countries enjoying same international immigration procedures so the is no exceptionals

    • @mokone4758
      @mokone4758 Рік тому +3

      @@kainosmafekeni1937 180 000 Zimbabweans are employed with some of them employed permanently, in jobs that South Africans can do, our brothers and sisters are sitting at home while zimbos fled their country making demands in ours like we owe them something, they were not here when our parents were fighting the apartheid. South Africans in other countries are employed in the scarce skills sector…you are talking from a position of previledge

  • @simonchimwanda5753
    @simonchimwanda5753 Рік тому +4

    Lazy pple always complain

    • @thabangtladi8057
      @thabangtladi8057 Рік тому

      yes they always complain in foreign countries instead of rebuilding and developing their own falling apart countries that looks like zoo

    • @mokone4758
      @mokone4758 Рік тому

      I agree with you Zimbo dog, lazy people don’t wanna go to their country and fight, the cry like babies for the opportunities of other people in their countries…the are even lazy to go home and vote, very useless🚮

    • @siphiwebapela1969
      @siphiwebapela1969 Рік тому +1

      Who is lazy

    • @rosecroco2787
      @rosecroco2787 Рік тому

      ​@@siphiwebapela1969you 😂

  • @mokone4758
    @mokone4758 Рік тому +10

    Sibanda is that fool that once said “Xenophobia is a criminal offence in South Africa” he thinks he is some kind of expert in the SA constitution but is a deadwood when it comes to Zimbabwean issues

    • @jameskillu9171
      @jameskillu9171 Рік тому

      Xenophobia is apartheid. both are evil , practised by the wicked,

    • @allee9539
      @allee9539 Рік тому +1

      He was right. Xenophobia is actually a crime against humanity.

    • @rosecroco2787
      @rosecroco2787 Рік тому

      bla until have the cows come home 🏡

    • @nomusaradebe9922
      @nomusaradebe9922 Рік тому

      ​@@allee9539Mxm

  • @maqhawepreyer709
    @maqhawepreyer709 Рік тому +1

    It's confusing how people continue to vote for eff bosa da and ifp while they don't put south african first if we can be well educated and not to following who is loud an famous

  • @simonchimwanda5753
    @simonchimwanda5753 Рік тому +1

    Lazy pple always complain

    • @kathoruscommunityyouthforu9272
      @kathoruscommunityyouthforu9272 Рік тому +4

      You are talking nonsense. What do you want in South Africa

    • @WNdaba
      @WNdaba Рік тому

      Hard working people always wanna insert themselves in already made societies to claim victory for something they never participated in. Hard workers leave the cesspo..ol and never wanna work on them.

    • @WalterWhite-bc8ck
      @WalterWhite-bc8ck Рік тому +5

      Entitled people always fight for wat they don't own😂

    • @WNdaba
      @WNdaba Рік тому +3

      @@WalterWhite-bc8ck I couldn't have said it any better.

    • @phakamisanindebele396
      @phakamisanindebele396 Рік тому +1

      ​@@WNdaba😂😂