How I Fixed My Running Form | Marathon Prep
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- Опубліковано 13 чер 2024
- RunLab Austin & Dr Rhoden. I've noticed that as I've been running more, I keep getting injuries or pain. Since I'm preparing to run a marathon this fall - I thought maybe my running form was causing a lot of issues & pain in my body. Today we go to the RunLab in Austin to get my running mechanics analyzed. I'll share what I learned & how Dr Rhoden & team helped me optimize my running.
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"They want me shirtless, I'm embarased" is the biggest lie I think I've ever seen you tell on here
I once thought “it’s just running, how hard can it be”
After a couple years of back pain knee pain, and 30+ Physical Therapy sessions, I really start to appreciate videos like yours
Thanks for sharing 🎉
I never comment on UA-cam videos but this is honestly fantastic! Thank you so much for taking the time to talk us through this - really enjoyed you switching between the process and your commentary! As a runner who is new longer distances (marathon distance) this is super interesting and amazingly insightful! Thank you Shervin!
That's a very cool testing facilities and crew. Thanks for sharing your preparation.
Spot on editing! Great pacing and intensity in the video
I used to have insane lower back pain and my coach helped me fix it - still get it from time to time. This video is AMAZING for understanding how to run properly 💯
Im in the same boat.. whenever i run on even payment around my neighborhood i get severe pain in my lower back around 10 mins into the run.. whenever i hike/ run uphill no pain at all
@@carlossix-oyou could be over tilting your hips forward when you run. Especially right after the landing portion of your stride.
I thought I read “couch” at first ☠️
What were the issues you fixed that caused the back pain?
@@kart182 strengthen my core, did more deadlifting to strengthen back, and changed my form to be more fluid
As someone who is trying to get started with fitness and running, your channel is a treasure trove of knowledge.
Thanks for the work you put into these videos.
Amazing video. Consistency, patience and baby-steps : key to improving the running form. Thanks for sharing these tips.
I watch a ton of UA-cam and this is just a fantastic video. Thanks for sharing it. It is so helpful to your audience.
This brings me so much happiness that you went to PT for this 💪🏽
Dude! This is incredible. I think this video is not only an investment for you but also for us! It brings so much value
I've been having these exact issues so this video is a godsend! Thanks.
Good video as always. 🥳
I can't wait to see how you do the marathon Shervin. Greetings from Germany 🖖🏼
I really enjoyed this. Learned some stuff. Thanks!
Love it!!! I am also preparing for my first marathon. I’ve been working with a coach for a year and learning how to structure my running. She’s in Az and I am in Calif. We meet once a month via FaceTime or google meet. I follow the plan with no excuses. I get it done regularly. Just finished my first half marathon at 1:55 / 8:42 pace. Then finished my first 5k at 7:11 pace. I don’t think of myself as a runner, but I am learning and loving it. I don’t skip out on the strength training as well. In hitting all body parts 3-6 days a week along with the miles. Looking forward to watching your journey while in mine. GOOD STUFF! Thanks!! BTW, I turned 60 in December of 2022. My mission is 60’s are for getting stronger… Not older.
The 1:55 half and 7:11 pace 5k dont match up real well. Should be faster 13.1 !
@@1023Endurance hmmm... I don't really know. The Half was my first race ever. At 1:55...I was in the top 10 of my age group out of 85 runners. I did start out a little slow to be safe. At mile 4 I started to ramp things up. I was pretty happy at 8;42 pace for my first half. The 5 k was the following Sunday near my home. I felt really good and it was only 5k. I was booking.
That is insanely impressive. You are my inspiration for how I should be in the future.
i love videos like this about fitness, running, diets, therapy, calories and so on. thank you it helps me a lot. especially when i run in central park about 4 times a week. cheers🥃
This video helped me improve my running form and go for the longest distance i have ever ran. Thank you. I planned on running 10 miles and 'accidentally' ran a 1/2 marathon, at 10.5 miles i was ready to throw in the towel but carried on! I documented the run and some of the ups and downs on my latest video - thanks for the tips and inspiration
Hey man great video.
What you just shared is the same problem I am facing.
Loved this video... Lots of learning
What’s up. Thank you for the content you create. Just stumbled onto your channel and loving it. I have similar issues running as you, and have a glimpse of the exercises they gave you to correct. Wondering if you could just list out the exercises they have you doing since I don’t have access to the run lab or similar. Thank you, and keep the content coming!
Finally someone who distinguishes racing a marathon and running a marathon.
Really enjoyed yr video and learnt stuff!! Thanks for sharing!! 🙂
This video was incredible. So much knowledge bombs dropped. I wish run lab was more nationwide! Id love to get an evaluation there. Keep up the great content sir!
I guess for people who have money lol
Shervin great video! Really useful information. 👍
Your videos are so interesting and well produced
Ok, you are my new favorite UA-camr. Subscribed!
This dude is a unit
Ty that means a lot
Loved this video! I love that you went to experts to help us learn rather than online research. Can you explain that glute walk a bit more in depth and what exactly you were feeling for?
Great Video! Thank you for sharing.
I’m 5’9 (175lbs) and I heel strike as well. Tried the advice they gave you on form today and normally at minute 20 of my run I keep pain on the outside of my right knee. Today I felt like a million bucks and was able to maintain zone 2 cardio range a lot easier than usual. Thanks for sharing your experience. I also noticed leaning forward immediately eliminated heel strike.
Some of the world's best marathoners are heel strikers. Where you strike does not matter. What matters is whether you are landing under the body.
@@arkamukhopadhyay9111it’s matter cus heel strike will make higher impact on your knee.
I was running with heel strike when I was 18-20s with having knee pain. Now, I switched, never felt the pain anymore, even on extremely long run.
@@manny3630 read my comment again. Your problem wasn't heel striking, it was overstriding.
@@manny3630 if you follow the advice in the video, your not really landing, you’re gliding while trying to stay level, so it doesn’t matter if you heel strike. It’s also just more energy efficient. If your calves are absorbing force from a strike, that is energy lost. It is also a ton of strain on your calves, it’s fine for medium distances but for a marathon your calves really aren’t built for that much strain. It’s a recipe for ankle problems and calf strains. Your calves are really meant for going fast not being efficient.
@@arkamukhopadhyay9111 it depends on what you're training for, heel strike is fine for slower long distance running but for sprinting you should be doing forefoot.
I like to sprint in my runs so I alternate between midfoot and forefoot.
Plus forefoot striking gives you really nice calves too lol.
Thank you for sharing this! Ive got so much more insight of the working of the heart and oxygen that it provides. This will help me for sure to keep in mind that i have a limet i need to check.
Hope you walked the marathon bro greetings The Netherlands!
exactly the point I’m currently working on, such a good episode
Awesome video, definitely helped me!
Lets face it, he IS also pretty heavy for a long distance runner. Running puts exponentially less strain on joints if you're lithe. Bulk training muscles, especially upper body, really works against you there. If you look at professional long distancers, they look like deer, slim and lightning fast. I myself am not blessed with this physique either, but if you're really into marathon+, losing some bulk helps a ton.
He is doing testosterone...
@@bigbattenberg then he might die trying to increase miles…
@@bigbattenberg to be fair it doesn’t automatically make you heavier you can definitely lose weight while still on a cycle
look at nick bare
that dude is heavy and still runs a 2.39 marathon
@@fabi5932 I don't say you can't do it. I just ran a half-marathon today, first race of the season, and the slim dudes just have a biological advantage.
this video is very informative and encourages to engage more with your body. Thumbs up! 🙂
Thanks for this. Amazing advice and was the same thing I got when I went through physical therapy.
Excellent vdo! Thanks Naser for sharing!
Great Share man! I wish you the best..
Thank you for this! I just decided to join a marathon so I started my training as well. These are great tips to keep in mind, wish I could consult experts too!
Banger of a vid man 🤞 Marathon don't stand a chance !!
Legend does it again!!!🎉
Yooooo bruh.. great content. Keep it uppp!
This was so informative. Thank you
You are so welcome!
Great stuff. Thank you.
Awesome vid!
I would love to do some testing like this.
Need a running lab like this in Switzerland!
This is awesome ! I need to find a place like that in London, UK for testing.
Two words to avoid injuries Patience & Cadence. It takes time for your body to get used to distance or load increases, 3-5 weeks @ 10% increase week on week with a break week every 3. If you are getting shin splints, ankle sore, planta issues look at your cadence, I try to keep mine at 180 on all Sessions & Long Runs recovery to easy 176 at the lowest, short steps are less load on joints, again adjust slowly.
The cadence tip was the most useful for me, I was naturally running at 149-152 steps per minute but then I stared running with 165bpm music, it felt super fast and super awkward but it fixed my overstride and feels much less harsh on my joints. I plan on raising it up to 175-180
How tall are you?
So faster is better? I’m 6’, 270. Trying to start “running” at 41 years old. Knees and shins are not happy. I can only run about .3 of a mile before I have some walk some. I’m trying minimalist shoes soon to help change how I run. My plan is to pop those on and focus on leaning forward from the ankles and pulling my heels up more. Right now I’m more doing a slow, heavy shuffle.
@@antimatter2417How do you measure your steps per minute?
rather than the 4 complex solutions they offered if they'd have just said ''increase cadence'' that would have simplified it and made all the other points moot.
great info, ran a marathon last year- we are similar in our struggles- all about heart rate.
Great video! Did my first half marathon (my first event run ever) and had a great time. But I realize my form was terrible.
Great video man. If you address cadence glute activation will take care of itself. Instead of thinking about 4 cues while running try increasing your tempo by 5-10 steps per minute and you'll land under your body without having to think about it.
I did this and ended up getting a knee injury. My right glute wasn’t activating so the outside of my knee / my IT band was doing all the stabilising work for my right leg. Has taken me a long time to activate my right glute at zone 2
@@georgecharnley2051 Got a knee injury increasing cadence? I've worked with hundreds of runners and never heard of that. Increasing cadence by 5% decreases load through the knee and IT band by 20%.
The video I knew I needed 😂💪🏻
Let’s goooo thanks!!
ty for sharing your run journey! there was virtual entry (sold out) for NYC marathon 2 days ago to have guaranteed entry in 2024. hopefully you are able to find a race that works.
how have the lower drop shoes (altra, hoka) been working out?
look forward to your future videos!
real good video thanks for sharing
Great video, very informative
Glad it was helpful!
Going full Nick Bare for the marathon. I just finished my second marathon and wish I would've done something like this to prevent injuries.
I barely run but I want to start running, where do I start and I also lift in the evening.
@@buffbutnatty3093start by time not distance. Keep your hr at 135-155 to start for 30-60 mins. Find your base and then train the way you want for the goals you'd like.
If your KNEES hurt.. You're too big. LMAO... your knees BARE-WEIGHT.
This is amazing, i will love to have something like this in mexico
thank you for sharing this
That’s a hell of a lab test! I would used those data to fix cardio zone on Strava and your watch, than try to forget about pace and just do easy runs not higher than zone 2 for a month, you’ll see great improve and avoid overload and injury plus It will help you increase your miles.
Heeling strike is largely due to people being used to thick, heeled shoes with heavy soles. Getting used to zero drop shoes can help with that. With a pair of zero drop shoes with thin soles, you simply can't land on your heel without experiencing immediate feedback, so your running efficiency will quickly improve once you get more of a midfoot or forefoot landing.
Also, lower body mobility issues can be due to the kinds of chairs we use and how we tend to sit habitually with our knees perpendicular to our body. It shortens and weakens muscles like the glutes, quads, and pelvic flexors, leading to poor lower body strength where it counts. This can result in anterior pelvic tilt evidenced in your running form in the treadmill test.
Good video!!
As someone getting back into running this was very interesting
very amazing share
Let’s goooooooooo 👏👏 nice vid
I’m so glad you did this! As a strength and conditioning coach when I saw your Zone 2 video about a year ago I couldn’t help but notice your excessive heel striking
2:17 jacked lol. Great video to watch while I’m on the treadmill
Alice's fade is 🔥
this guy is a unit
Thx bro
Thx for the video
Yooooo forget all this running stuff, who is Allison’s barber?!?! That fade is 🔥
Hyped for this prep! How much did all of this cost?
Probably a decent amount. If you want a slightly more affordable method, many universities have sports medicine or athletic training related degrees, and some offer metabolic or VO2 max testing for a discount so the students can practice. I have one school near me and it’s about $100 for an exam (not cheap, but not crazy if it’s a once a year or every couple years just to track progress). And you can compare the zones to your HR or your watch and that way you can sort of calibrate it
@@kalvin.I did this at a local university extension. I got my V02 max, FTP, gait analyzed etc. I could have saved the money on the gait analysis. They didn’t tell me anything. I felt like it was the same information I got at any shoe store. That’s not to say all are like that but I would like to get a analysis like this guy did.
This is gold
Could you do some more videos on the exercises that worked best for you? i’m also a heel striking myself
So helpful
Glad it was helpful! What videos do you want to see more of?
I wish these sort of "labs" would be more prevalent in the country I'm from. Heel striking is not necessarily bad; it's all about how the stride is completed. You want to keep your mass/ground contact as close under your body as possible. That way you can easily roll through with your heel first without "breaking" your stride. Try increasing cadence along with minimizing ground contact time (imagine you're running on hot coals) Great video;)
Great information in the video. Where I live, I don't have the resources (nor funds) to assess/coach my running form and efficiency. But, I found that using the Garmin chest strap Pro+ or the Pod which capture advanced running metrics helped measure the efficiency in my running form. Being a data nerd with my running, I highly recommend. Once I focused more on getting my legs up, and landing beneath my chest, I saw drastic improvement in performance over the past year. When you're trying to increase stride length, these techniques seem counterproductive, but they work.
I used to heelstrike, and developed a persistent knee and heel pain. Until I started using Xero HFS shoes. Minimalist running shoes. All the pain dissappeared and healed completely. A lot of these awkward postures are caused by the modern shoe itself. Its heel is padded to be higher, changing the natural posture of your leg anatomy. It atrophies the foot and leads to injuries for runners. I would suggest trying a running shoe that is minimalist.
Great vid, and most importantly - for the algorithm 👊😎
Gotta be careful with changing your form if you have been running a certain way for a long time. I tried changing mine to what I was told was proper running form and I got my first running injury. I’m 48 and will likely just use my what people call horrible form for the rest of my running life.
The minimal head bounce and the way you swing your hands/elbows/shoulders all equal energy conservation.
Once, you pick a pace you just minimize everything as you hold that speed. I see that in your run.
Good job.
Shervin, you are looking huge! I am convinced the years that we spent swimming really messed up our running mechanics. I also think that dedication to breast stroke through NOVA and high school, lead to overcompensation on different knee and abductor muscles. What do you think?
Whoa! My right big toe lacks flexibility after a break. I just quit running in college and switched to swimming and cycling. Your video gives me the idea that this MAY be somewhat fixable!
Homeboy is on the sauce!! 100%
bellissimo centro !! magari ce ne fossero anche in italia !! TOP
Me too thanks for this bud
5:45 in the video your running form improved so much.
Big props to Alison’s barber 💈
Man. I cant wait till this kind of analysis can be done with simple cameras and computer vision.
This test is so sick! I wish I could do it lol. I need to allocate my runs to days that I do not strength train. Then I need to shorten my stride as well. I heel strike too much.
I’d love to do this. I wonder if there’s anything comparable near Philadelphia PA.
How are you doing training plans? Garmin has a Garmin Coach option for you or if you're more into personal plans then the coach can use Training Peaks which sends data straight to your Garmin.
Hi Shervin,
How accurate are the HR zones that your Garmin calculates compared to the metabolic test?
not very accurate. heart rate is very variable, so to judge what training zone you're in you must consider your pace and perceived effort as well as heart rate.
garmin also attempts to calibrate your heart rate zones automatically, which adds extra uncertainty. the way you really should calibrate a heart rate zone is to do a bunch of sessions in that zone (based on pace and perceived effort) and measure the resulting heart rate.
Shervin, what running shorts are you using? So hard to find a good pair.
2:19 , "its about Newtons laws like energy is never lost its transferred" 💀
I HATE INJURIES WITH A PASSION!!!
yo Alice’s hair is absolutely bomb
Oh hey! I've been using a cyclist's "posture" to kind of replicate that leaning forward & horse pawing to get into my mid foot running gait. Glad i'm on the right track
very cool
Your form makes me feel so much better about myself ❤
I highly recommend checking out some of Lawrence Van Lingen’s work (his “10 run cue” course was very helpful to me).
Resisting overstride hack: I heard in podcast with Dr. Mark Cucuzzella about keeping elbows back and hands almost at your armpits/nipples (for guys, anyway) as a means of helping keep your feet under your pelvis. I tried it immediately and saw such a weird relationship between hands/arms and feet. In an upright stance (not leaning forward for back), it's almost hard to bring your feet out too much further than your hands. It's some kind of balance maintenance thing that I can't explain. But when I feel like I may be overstriding, I usually just make sure my elbows are back, hands like I'm plucking invisible suspenders, and I notice my landing gets pushed back under my pelvis. Suuuuch a weird thing.