The way Zell is going he's gonna find him a woman, marry her and have about 2 or 3 kids and settle himself down mostly off tv. He is tiiired of his community. But its understandable. There is a LOT of mess going on that a lot of people can see.
I feel like Amina has a lot of resentment towards Peter and probably rightfully so. It wasn't about the ladybug. It was trying to make Peter look bad after he made her look foolish and hurt her all those years. She basically said it.
I like Amina but She shouldn't have any type of resentment towards him.We all know at the end of the day she let Peter treat her like dirt over and over..
I like her but hell she can't blame nobody for what peter did to her hell she thought she won because she had Peter and when Peter did her ass the same way he did Tara now she hurt 🤦🤦#Girl get over it and leave that damn man alone 💯💯💪y'all women be knowing men be messing with another woman and y'all know they be lying but y'all will still believe there lies and still give them a chance knowing it's another woman involved... Y'all be happy to know the other woman hurt because u took their man or u think u did sumin but never laugh at somebody else pain because that same pain came come right back on u but worse💯💯Amina was petty af for bringing that shit up that was dumb to bring that up frfr especially a child that's not even yours... Smh
The way that Amina is grinning and smiling let's me know that she knew exactly what she was doing. Smh. She didn't get the reaction that she anticipated so, then she started fake crying about what Johnathan said. I appreciate Erica for being honest with Amina.
She did it to be petty from what Peter did with her & Tara..imo Peter didn’t deserve nun of this..only reason I say this is bc if I’m not mistaken and somebody make this make sense..how tf do you get introduced on a show with a woman you have history with right..10+ years and 2 kids..and then the 1st & 2nd Amina shows up..they mf married?? She was doomed from the start she even appeared on the show and then thought because “I’m his wife” meant something..I tell you this man a dude only cheats because the woman ain’t doing something right..yall women are deceptive and smart enough to switch yo emotions once that camera come on tho😂😂basically what I’m saying is she’s 6-7 years too late bro😂😂and then the fact that’s it’s not even your one of your kids with him you too busy worrying about the “other woman”
Amina had no right to bring that up period. Because for 1 that's not her child. And 2 the whole world doesn't need to know about a matter that could've easily been discussed behind scenes. Why bring it up now on national tv?
Maybe so they can be forced to answer compared to being offscreen where they could just ignore the question. I noticed the small words used from Terra and Peter like “CHOOSE to love” “CHOOSE who they WANT to be”, as if it is ever a real choice. It says a lot when people listen to small things.
@@lightskinp7165 Real talk. She not only put Peter out on front street, she lowkey put Tara on blast. I'm surprised Tara handled it as gracefully as she did.
@@SmokingzMagiczTreez Let's not act like they don't know when to draw the line. Conversations like this 1 are very sensitive topic that can do damage to public figures. Straight Black men already have a bad stigma when it comes to the topic of homosexuality. Its even worse when that person is a part of hip hop.
Bobby telling Zell “to stop acting like he isn’t gay” is more harmful than Peter telling his son the difference between gender clothing!!! That’s triggering to me..I’m SO happy Zell spoke his truth! My best friend before he truly excepted himself as a non-feminine gay man, would have to act so over the top, wear things he wasn’t comfortable in ONLY to be excepted by his own gay community! Now he is fine with being a gay man who dresses masculine, and he still has battles with not having to try and be something he isn’t, but he is happy with who he is! Bobby acts like it’s this or that, but it’s not! Zell has been this way all through love and hip hop
Thank you! Not every gay man is feminine! And even beyond that...even those of us that are not masculine, we don't all indulge in stereotypes or the foolishness. Many in the gay community treat you as if you aren't "really gay" unless you live that life. It's stupid and counterproductive.
THANK YOUUU!!!! Cus what tf does “acting gay” look like??? He doesn’t have to be Flamboyantly Feminine to Love men! His dad did right by him! Cus essentially he made him Masculine and Strong so nobody could ever Fuck with him!
Amina knew what she was doing, she wrong as hell for trying to make Peter look homophobic on TV and the fact that she did that out of spite is even worse
First of all he 5 he not 12 or 13..He 5.His daddy is a str8 so y wouldnt he as a father explain to his 5 year thats for girls.That dnt make him homophobic.He is a str8 man...Period..That shit for girlz he 5....That dnt make his 5 year old gay..He 5...Thats for girlz....
Thats whats up.He 5...Not 12 or 13...Just cause he was crying they cry over everything at 5.I have a 6 year old grandson he aint wearing no ladybug nothing cause thats for girls...He 6..Thats what he was taught..
Right, if my son's decided to be gay always be a man first. I can expect you being a man, and gay just own it. Now if my son's start to act more women then me I'll have a problem cause it's only one H.B.I.C where they come from lmao
She said he humiliated her on tv so many times but my issue with her is that you allowed it…. she could have left him at anytime …… and it bothers me when other people try to tell someone how they should raise their kids it’s sickening!
Yeah im wondering what the REAL issue is. I dont think she truly cares. I think she was trying to get Peter "cancelled". Her behavior was SO disingenuous. I dont care for her anymore.
@@mspiesundee7202 actually it's not an inner cry ...Inner cry is when you are Crying on the inside means that you are hiding your emotions with somebody or the entire world."she is definitely not hiding her emotions.. I seriously think she wants camera time. Her and Bobby they both are doing the most..
Peter’s explanation was all I needed to see. The moment he said “if when he gets older, that’s what he wants to do…” I applauded him. Peter’s just looking out for his child. Although today things are more acceptable and supported, there are still a lot of very MEAN unwilling souls in the world who choose hate, no matter a person’s age.
Exactly! It's not Peter's fault that this is the world in which we live.. he said that once his child is of sound mind and is more mature, he can make his own decisions of identity expression and he will fully support him.. that's what it's all about.. the truth is, that nothing should be called "boy" or "girl", but since it is, we all have to try to work around it until that fact is changed for good..IMO
I'm on Peter's side and shame on Amina for doing this on tv. Did she ever think how her outing the son would affect the son? There's a time and place for everything. She was so wrong for this.
Yeah she was wrong. That’s not her place because last I checked she only had girls with him, so why put him on blast to try* to make him look bad. 😑 she seems bitter.
Outing him? her son is a child, she just said that he was enforcing a negative stereotype. And its crazy that when Peter was clowning her for years nobody had a problem but she makes one little comment and Peter is hurt.
@@SageCypher Don't project your sh!t and then flip the script. Like you wrote, this a child. Not her child and for her to step into a business that doesn't belong to her, is foul so let me rephrase myself: Amina used a CHILD to get revenge on her baby daddy when SHE was the one who stepped on Tara's relationship with Peter. But I guess you forgot that part huh? 😒 Amina trying to put Peter on blast has absolutely nothing to do with Peter being a homophobic or not, which he isn't or anything related to the LGBTQ-discussion. Amina just wanted to make him look bad for the choices SHE made.
@@gabriella3993 I’m not projecting anything, I can’t relate to them in any way thankfully but I can also see that she spoke out of hurt and Peter decided to step out and he married her and they both have children by him so they are blended it’s not like she doesn’t know anything I’m sure both Amina Tara and all their kids spend a lot of time together
@@SageCypher Which makes it 10x worse if they spend a lot time together. These are children and we all know that bullies in schools are ruthless these days. You don't think that her statement makes this kid a target at school and among his friends? I don't know if you have kids, little siblings or little cousins but ask yourself if you're completely comfortable with a stranger who not only deliberately broke up their family but aired their private moments on international tv because they're hurt? She can do whatever she wants to Peter but don't bring his or her children into that mess. She's so foul for that. Let's not forget that these are black boys. Already a target by the society.
The fact that almost everyone there told Amina that she was wrong & her response was that she was doing the same thing to Peter, as he did to her by embarrassing her on national tv, spoke volumes. You don’t ever speak on someone else’s child for no reason at all! Tara acted like the queen she is because I would have knocked her front teeth out speaking in mine.
Agree 1000%, she did all that in retaliation for the way their story was portrayed on television. Hell, she said it herself, "After the way he made me look on television, I don't care how I make him look." The issue is that her statement, if taken and ran with by the wrong person, could really damage his entire life, not to mention how it will make his son feel, later down the road, when he's old enough to understand what's going on. Homophobia is a serious issue, and even tho people that have been watching this show KNOW that Peter is not homophobic, that statement about the costume could look really bad. And then to attempt to put Tara down as well, let's just say Amina is lucky that Tara isn't with the mess, cuz other cast members would've smacked her cross eyed. Amina needs to worry about her 2 revenge babies and leave Tara and her boys out of her mouth! She's clearly still pissed that even tho Peter married her, she is, was, and will forever be his Side Chick. How u got a whole husband that's still living with the mother of his children? She thought that ring meant something and when she found out that it didn't she's been plotting her revenge, too bad that didn't work out for her either🤷🏼
What???..... I had 5 people tell me I was wrong about a song title and then when everyone looked up the song they found out they all 5 was WRONG!!! standing alone and defending yourself is not wrong that sound like some pussy shit..... If I'm right I don't care how many people tell me I'm wrong so i guess I would of been scrapping
Amina still hates Peter. Amina is Wrong for Bringing that up when it isn't her son. I actually feel bad for Amina because I think the Bitterness comes from When Amina had A Abortion & Tara had Peter's Baby
“I don’t give a shit how I make him look! You know how he made me look on TV a million times?!” .. There it is. Amina saw her opportunity to dig at Peter and she took it. She was grinning and smiling the whole time Peter was upset and stormed out but as soon as the tables turned she wanted to cry. Girl. Bye. You started all this mess😭🤣
Amina dead wrong, and soon as they started pressing her, the truth came out. She didn't care about Peter son potentially being unable to be himself, she just saw a chance to expose Peter and make him look like a hypocrite. And to think, I actually respected how she chose to deal with her and Peter's issues behind the scenes. 😒
I don’t think that’s true. I think that she said what she had to say genuinely and then they were pressing for how it made Peter look and that’s kinda a slap in the face bc they saw that he had POOR intentions when he embarrassed her
@@CaiyaSanchez Well, if her intentions were genuine she went about it poorly. Amina knew how saying what she said would make Peter look, but as she stated herself, she doesn't care if the father of her child looks.
So THAT'S what this is about. Amina is still embarrassed about how she made HERSELF look by chasing after a man who was already in a relationship so she decides to make Peter seem like he's homophobic in order to tarnish his reputation. This was a failed attempt at payback. Nothing more. Nothing less.
She hurt damn self she made herself look bad on marriage was the first peter told the truth she ask him to marry her for a green card he told her he was in a relationship with Tara and lived with but she pursued him
Amina was wrong she possibly outed Tara and Peters son on television. Not her place to say anything about someone’s child period. She did it for revenge and she even said it
First of all he 5..They cry over everything..Just cried dnt mean he wanna b a dam girl..She was wrong..He 5 its not like he 12 or 13 he 5..His str8 daddy told him the diff.As his parent. Not someone who's homophobic he5.
This makes me love Jonathan, honestly. He's really putting in the effort to open the conversation. And you already know there will be resistance to it.
@@DatA737 I think what he said is being blown out of proportion he just basically reworded what Peter said. That his father raised him to know the difference of boy and girl and let him be who he want to be as he grew older. As a child as they say you only see happiness. You don't see other people and adults wanting to hurt you simply because you're a child wearing a costume outside your gender. That's what Zelle is explaining. Bobby blew that way out of proportion. I get where Bobby coming from but he put words in Zelle's mouth
@@rochel492 exactly, he articulated it perfectly the ones that didn't get were the ones that didn't want to get, Bob got triggered by the "I was raised by my dad" and took it out of proportion.
@@justsaying8358 Right. He didn't word it wrong he kept getting cut off so it sounded wrong if they let him finish like the 3 men did at the end it wouldn't have been this big of a deal
This time Peter wasn’t wrong. He just told him the biological differences. They moved on. Amina just took this opportunity to call out Peter cause she was hoping they would all go against him and it backfire. He’s not wrong for waiting for him be older to have a better understanding.
It didn't backfire. She was right. He pretty much admitted it was a gender issue. It also contradicted Terra saying on Halloween he didnt want to be a ladybug anymore. The idea had already been shut down and it was something that was no longer an option. I'm more annoyed at it becoming mic night lmao there are far too many adults who need attention on this show who all have a history of being shitty people. The wrong people wanted to set Amina straight in defense of trash ass Peter.
Someone else household... did yall not watch any of the seasons... she was their step mother and still in their lives lmao yall acting like she spoke on a random strangers on the Internet household.... like yall do
I am SO PROUD of Zell!!!!! Before in his season, i thought he was a big bully, and my opinion of him had not changed, UNTIL TODAY! I think it shows that he is not the immature bully that i thought that he was even at the beginning of this season. Good Job Zell! I like you again.
Seems like he still is a bully. If someone doesn't want their male son wearing a girl costume oh tf well. It's not your position to say shit. Everyone's kids isn't going to grow up damaged like you.
If I was Tara I’d be pissed at Amina. How dare she use a child to get back at her ex. Now that kid is going to school with a target on his back and people assuming the worst about his dad.
There are 5 yr olds watching this show? Pretty sure they will think that because he is. He has how many kids, with how many different women, in how many different locations and it's recorded how he breaks women's hearts.
Lmao ya cuz kindergarten kids are big love n hip hop fans 🤣🤣. What kinda target is going on the back of a 5 year old? Ain't none of his classmates gonna hear about this argument and guaranteed they wouldn't understand it nor care if they did.
I’m gay and I understand both sides. I don’t think toys have any influence on your sexuality but Peter also has a right as a dad to try and give his child direction. That’s what my parents did. Once I was 18, my parents let me live my life the way I wanted too. I’m grateful that they allowed me to be me but also gave me guidance.
"I don't give a shit how I made him look. Do you know how many he made me look on tv a million times" This sentence shows that she's still not over Peter playing her, and I don't blame her for that. The duration of our heartbreaks aren't the same, but what she did shows that she wanted revenge. This clarifies for me that she had revenge sex with Cisco.
Acting like she cares about his son... Did you care about his tears when you took his father out of his house? Did you care about his tears when he had to watch his mother cry over the betrayal? Girl bye!
The big smirk on amina face says it all. She's vindictive and spiteful! It's not her child it's not her business she wanted to drop Peter in it but it backfired on her! Bobby was giving trina vibes 🤣
I'm with Peter on this one. He simply just pointed out what is for girls, and what is for boys. Now granted, what is considered for boys and for girls can be deabted. But I personally think it's important for kids to understand the difference, so when they get older (like Peter said), they'll know the difference, and then can make their own choices. Aside from that, talking about someone's child on national television...I don't like that.
That's DUMB. What's "for boys" and what's "for girls" is some shit that's made up by adults. Kids don't care about any of that shit. They just want to play.
@@NursePN09 no this comment is stupid 💯 if you think there’s no difference between males and females then you’re living on some alternate earth or something. Ever heard the phrase “Men are from Mars and women are from Venus”? I’m gonna need you to come back to reality
@@27MELEIKM gender is not real. there are differences between female and male but how me treat each and how we socialize them (this example exactly with a feminine costume) isn't biological and doesn't really matter
I'm on Peter's side for once. Kid's can be cruel, heck, society in general can be cruel and I know that all too well, so when my daughter comes to me with toys or costumes that society deemed back in the day, are for little boys, my natural reaction is to say, "hey you know those are for boys right?". That doesn't mean I'm against people for who they choose to be or who they choose to love, it's just a natural reaction I have, to protect my daughter from being made fun of. Now if my daughter insists that she wants the thing in question, of course I get it for her. I just want to make sure she's deciding on something because it's what she wants that way I can back her up if she needs me to. I want my daughter to make her own educated choices, to the absolute best of her ability and I want her to understand that sometimes consequences come with those choices. We need to be fully open with our children, and unfortunately these days, that includes exposing them to the hate they might receive, but also teaching them to rise above it and be better than that. We can't expect change and progress, without openness and honesty. People fear things they don't understand. I could care less if my daughter loves men or women, wants kids or doesn't and so on, but that doesn't mean I don't want her to understand why she feels that way and that feeling that way is okay, but that it may bring hate her way from others around her. She needs to be prepared for it so she can learn ways to deal with it.
This comment I agree fully 100% and your Peter was correct in his response even Tara backed him up! Amina has animosity that she needs to handle and sort through. That was messy for no apparent reason. I love the way Zell stood as well speaking as man that is Bi but had a heterosexual father raise him.
We really should think of how we allow society to mold our thinking and how we project that onto our children. You questioned her choices and telling her they're not for her gender can have an effect on her questioning the things she enjoys. It happened to me as a little girl and I had a struggle with balancing my feminine and masculine energies. I get we've mostly conformed to society, but what we deem society norms usually isn't right or fair to everyone.
But you just made your daughter second guess her natural decision to want a toy. By putting in her head that it’s a boys toy you are making her doubt her natural instincts. Think about what that’s going to do to her next time to picks a toy, “is this for me or for a boy?” .. why stress her out out so young. The world is cruel but instead of shining light on it in your home, remind your daughter that those unimportant gender roles should never make her second guess her natural instincts
Yes. And the problem with that is, just like after the first time she found out Peter cheated and decided to stay, she ended up playing herself. Everyone saw through her act from the jump.
Amina was wrong. She could’ve said it at the point it happened. Not in front of everybody and embarrass Peter. But everybody ganging up on Amina and her having a meltdown 😂😂☠️☠️
I don’t think it was so much about Peter telling his son he can’t wear the ladybug outfit. I think there is a deeper issue here, Peter embarrassed Amina on TV multiple times by cheating on her, trying to get back with Tara and having a baby on her. She’s hasn’t properly healed from it that’s why she felt she could embarrass him like that and it’s wrong.
@@lowkey4327 exactly, she was never concerned about the kid, she just wantes to get back at him for embarrassing her so much over the years. She has every right to be mad about that, but to use his kid as a pawn to embarrassing him was dead wrong and she overcrossed the line.
I never thought I’d say this but I agree with Peter. Bobby and Amina are doing too damn much. This would have been a perfect time for Tara to slap Amina again because she just started drama for no reason. 😑😑😑😑😑
Imagine, these people had me agreeing with Peter and his dirty feet. I was determined to go my whole life thinking all that came out his mouth was trash lol
AS A PROUD GAY MAN, I actually agree with Peter for once. Bobby needs to 🤫… Every gay guy doesn’t have to walk around in pink tutu’s and rainbows. Like chill. Peter clearly respects the lgbt community and Zel was just speaking from HIS perspective. Bobby is literally getting mad bc people aren’t agreeing with him. Stfu 😑 If a child was old enough to make his/her own decisions, then a child would be given a driver’s license at birth!
I will say sometimes another person can sometimes offer that perspective that you may not have seen. Not saying its necessarily the case here but I can see why she said that.
If Tara couldn't speak up for 13 years of sacking up with a cheater then I highly doubt she would've spoken up on this publicly. Tara ain't get no real balls til that "family trip" during that dinner with Peter.
You shol right now Tara gon feel some type of way towards her..He 5...They cry over everything...She went too far..Peter is str8 as his parent he is to guide his son 5 years old..Not 12 or 13...He 5..
@@cchisolm92cc Everything is different when it comes to their children. Yeah she didnt speak up when Peter cheated but they both are good parents and take care of their kids so this whole thing was just ew and a big no
I love how Zell is, this is what Everyone is saying you do not have be so flamboyant to be considered gay. Zell talked about how his raised him as a tough man but he still chose to gay in sensuality. But if you express yourself in a flamboyant way that is you. And everybody doesn't has to push it on their children.
thank youuuu. The problem is folks of this day and age forget that it is the PARENTS responsibility to raise their child. Teach them wrong and right. You don't have the child make the decisions for themselves. While they are still a child you are the one that dictates everything for them. When they are old enough THEN they can dictate their own but in the real formative years YOU the parent are responsible for steering them correctly.
Well it's kind of hard for that to happen with some parents. You got kids who will never get a chance to have that type of decision. You got some kids who parents are deceased, jailed, or simply don't know who there dad is due to family mishaps.
Peter rarely ever gets one from me but 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 he’s very correct. I’m a part of the LGBTQ community & I understand exactly what Peter said. He wasn’t wrong & isn’t anti-gay at all. Bobby, is projecting.
Amina is wrong on this one. Those aren't her kids. She shouldn't really speak on Peter's relationship with his kids that aren't hers. Or things that go on in someone else's household. Leave it alone.
Flat out! She ain’t shit for that! No typo of family or loyalty. I don’t care about how things went in the relationship, you shouldn’t throw him under the bus like that!
I’m gonna go with Tara here. On Halloween her son didn’t even want to be the ladybug and he had a costume already so they didn’t want to buy another one. If it was a huge deal, Amina should’ve pulled them aside and said her concerns. Wrong place and time for that. (Of it matters, I’m bisexual and from a family that isn’t the most LGBT friendly but this didn’t feel abrasive to me)
Why does she think she has a say in the raising of Peter and Tara's child? This is the moment Tara should've slapped Amina not after she announced she was married lol
First she didnt have to say shit...And he 5 they cry for every thang...His daddy st8..He 5 not 12 or 13...Thats for girlz.Him as a parent is supposed to teach him that sort of stuff He 5...Just cause he wanted a ladybug Halloween costume don't mean to damn baby need therapy..He 5..THATS FOR GIRLZ..
Amusing how he cheated on Tara, married amina, did all these things to Tara & in the present time - Tara is the one still speaking truth, not slandering him yet the one he cheated on her with is the one trying to pin him as homophobic & then some. Whew chile!
See Amina been the same vindictive person she’s always been. She said Peter embarrassed her for years.. so she’s going to get him back while once again dragging Tara and her kids in it. Like man. Something is wrong with her
I'm loving the NEW ZELL! Big ups to Peter for standing his ground! He has the right to raise his child with informed decisions. Amina is a whole clown for trying to cause chaos at a childs expense smh. And Bobby need to go visit his Dad and get a hug cause he was TRIGGERED hunny
Amina after being called out and things backfiring on her literally told on herself the real reason why she even brought that up. She wanted make him look bad after he made her look bad for years on TV. She was being vengeful and spiteful. Y'all know how cruel and sensitive society is. That man will get canceled, blackballed and the usual. Bobby took it personal and made the situation worse by how he went about it. I agree with Zell, Erica, Rich, Peter and Tiara.
nobody told amina to stay with peter and get embarrassed on national TV. plus she still married him before and after being humiliated on TV. what peter and Tara do with their kids is their business. amina just wanted to make it about her ..
@@only_martinalynn9207 Exactly. NOW she wants to make him pay? Red flags were constantly being waved at her but she just collected them instead of boucing after the 1st one. You made your choices ma 🤷🏽♀️
Amina crying got me dead 🤣🤣 but why do they keep telling Zell that’s he’s gay just to piss him off and they know he’s bisexual? 🤔 Nah y’all wilding in the comments, as a bisexual I wouldn’t like being called a “straight” or “gay”. Bisexuals are the last sexuality people care about and they don’t understand that being Bisexual ISN’T the same as straight or gay. Yes they have similarities but y’all not gonna tell a bisexual who they like or how they are if you ain’t bisexual yourself. It don’t matter if anyone looks straight or too gay for you. You don’t identify anybody sexuality but your own.
Well I know I’m going to get some flack for this but ….. once you sleep with the same sex that automatically makes you gay. Just because you like both doesn’t change the fact . What’s the definition of being gay ? Bobby was right . He’s gay.
@@t3up220 Absolutely false sleeping with the same sex and sleeping with the opposite sex doesn’t make you straight or gay it makes you exactly wtf zell said he is a BISEXUAL because he’s attracted to both not just one. Laying down with the same sex does not automatically make you gay just like a gay person sleeping with a woman does not automatically make them straight, Zell is bisexual he likes both I wish people would stop tryna tell bisexual people what they’re. There’s different types of attraction you can be sexually attracted to a gender and not be emotionally attracted to a gender meaning you have no issue fucking them but you don’t want to be in a relationship with or see yourself with that gender or having emotions involved at all.
@@t3up220 I mean, he said that he eventually wants a wife and kids so he's making it known he's available to women. His onlyfans says different. Also, in the gay community, hi, there's this thing where men will market themselves as bisexual to appeal to more masculine men. Not saying that's Zell's case. It's just he spent most of Love and Hip Hop/Basketball wives being in women business and hooking up with men. In conclusion, stop fucking up yall kids so that they focus more on their passions in life instead of looking for validation elsewhere.
Johnathan,Bobby,and zelle I love them they argued and took accountability and fixed it and listened to each other's point of view 🥺🥺😍😍😍 that's how it should be and that's proof they love each other
Huh??? What you mean? All I saw in this scene was Bobby and Zell screaming their heads off at each other and then Bobby storming off! Only Jonathan kept it cool-and it doesn’t look like he got involved in the argument anyway.
People know that to say anything in Hollywood about Jews and/or gays can get you immediately cancelled without a the need of a public consensus. So, Peter is like “don’t bring that heat on my name/character and ultimately my money.” Meanwhile, in Hollywood, say anything about blacks and you’re good. You know how many times Mariahlynn said “on everything I love, my nigga” yet she was never reprimanded by the cast nor production❓This is why blks need to get into ownership so they can cancel ppl too that speak out of pocket against them.
Peter was right and I feel the same way about my sons if they chose to wear flamboyant clothing when they get older I’m gonna support them and love them. We are there to steer them in the right direction not to keep putting road blocks on they journey!!
It’s nothing wrong with a parent telling their child that something that’s meant for girls is not for boys that’s great parenting. Let them get old enough to make those decisions for themselves people be trying to force stuff on kids it’s weird. He’s not wrong for that at all
Yeah but at the same you shouldn’t deny your kids things they want because of what society think is acceptable. And how’s that forcing stuff on kids if that’s what they choose to dress up in?
@@wikipedia0 that don't make sense we always telling our kids right from wrong and I bet you don't tell your kid yes to everything if you do have kids you tell your kid no sometimes so you don't make any sense that's like my kid saying I want to be a murderer and I say okay
exactly atp just let people raise they kid how they want to, not everyone has to have the same opinion as you, at the end of the day that’s their kid not yours.
I love how Johnathan handled telling that guy thank you and what it is about to be with all that yelling and screaming. I just love to hear Johnathan talk. His voice is everything to me.❤❤❤❤
Amina knew EXACTLY what she was doing! That was an intentional dig at Peter & Tara. She then said “Tara was in the room & didn’t say anything”! She is still bitter & totally used this instance in the wrong context! This was totally wrong!
Peter is not wrong!!. My little brother went to the girls section of the store, he saw paw Patrol pyjamas. I told him no it’s for girls let’s go to the boys section and get one for him. That is not wrong!!
She’s STILL MAD about how he dogged her out so she wanted to try to dog him ! She know damn well that ONE moment is NOT sitting on her heart like that ! She really really REALLY tried it !
And there we have the truth. Amina said it to get back at him. People have to understand that although we live in a time where things are “more acceptable” there are still consequences for every action both positive and negative. As a father just like Zelle explained how his father taught him, Peter was just trying to prepare his son.
I definitely understand where Amina is coming from, but I believe in there being a time and a place for everything and certain things shouldn't be handled for reality tv consumption especially when it comes to children. I think she could have had a more intimate/private conversation away from the cameras with Tara(since that is her son) and Peter about the situation. Everything doesn't need to be a moment for TV.
I understand myself, but after hearing her say she don’t care how he feel are look after all the embarrassment he put her threw, this season going to be good😜
@@jasminegreene8159 Thats not the point, she not trying to be Tara's son new mom but their family's are blended and especially them its a different kinda blend. She is clearly still affected by Peter and i dont blame her
This subject is always sensitive. Especially with kids involved. This probably should have been kept private between the parents. I think Amina should have not said anything publicly. Bobby was doing too much also.
Peter isn’t wrong now since he further explained, but he should’ve stayed to explain it to Amina at least because she’s the one that really felt a type of way of that moment, even if it wasn’t her place or kids, atleast she shows she cares for the kids. I mean why not, since she’s gonna have to deal with the same guy to HER own child. Only thing I don’t agree with Peter is that idk why you have to wait till you’re 18 and older to figure out what you wanna start wearing and acting. But atleast he supports it, I HOPE
Amina was wrong period. If the mother "Tara" did NOT say anything, then why Amina felt the need to open her mouth. Did Amina say something to Peter back in October...NO! She waited for the cameras. That shit ain't genuine. Besides Peter can and should raise his children the way he sees fit. As long as he's not abusing them. He told his son right...that is a girl's costume!
Peter is the type of dude that screams out loud that he's an ally but would never condone it with his own kids. Especially his sons. It's so evident on the way he explained it. Who cares if your 5 year old wants to wear a pink costume?? When I was a kid my brother and I used to play dress up with my mothers clothes and wigs and have a ball. You can wear whatever the fuck you want to wear, Peter's logic is just odd..
@M.A.P. Investments Research no she’s not if you’re being disrespected by your parents and your teacher sees it is your teacher wrong to point it out no
You raise your child to be the best individual they can be. Some people out here are raising their kids to be their own support animal, servant, provider and more, because they feel entitled to their children's existence. There should be a law that says that you must pass several tests before you can become a parent.
Amina was wrong! 1st off that wasn’t her child, so why bring that up. She was out of line and she’s lucky Tara is mature because I felt like Amina brought it up out of spite. Not towards Tara but towards Peter and that’s not cool to throw a child in that.
I agree..He 5 they cry over everything.His daddy st8 so of course thats his reaction..Nothing about was homophobic to me cuz he 5 years old.12 or 13..He 5 thats for girls...
@@lorindamiller5479 I also feel like, if he didn’t want his child at 5 years old to wear the costumes that’s his child. That doesn’t mean he’s homophobic. My daughter wanted to be something one year and I felt she wasn’t old enough to wear it. It was something with blood and knives but I didn’t let her get it because I felt it was too violent.
"Everybody's gonna over-talk each other, so let's end this. Thank you for coming." I absolutely LOVE Jonathan 💖
Yes love Jonathan he's so classy
Yes Jonathan is so professional
And that’s exactly what they did 🤣🤣
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First time I felt Zell was being genuine and explaining why he is the way he is .
The way Zell is going he's gonna find him a woman, marry her and have about 2 or 3 kids and settle himself down mostly off tv. He is tiiired of his community. But its understandable. There is a LOT of mess going on that a lot of people can see.
Exactly
He won't find anything if continue to do porn on Twitter with MEN 🥴 Chile please
@@beeznhoney9768 😂😂😂😂😂
@@biggiana7822 Lmaooo I can't take this serious
When Amina started crying I just stared at my screen with a blank face lmao
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Same😂😂😂like girl u started the bs
Yeah cringe
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That lady was screeching.
“ daddy got your back” 👏👏 Need more dads like him
Sorry but Rich got me dying! “You wrong Buddafly!” 😂😂😂
Between that and her erratic screaming, I fell all the way out lmfao
Yes..lol
Why was he bucking at Amina . He always get tough with women
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@@debravan1167 is so true he was bucking at Cyn back in the day when she was dating Erica
I feel like Amina has a lot of resentment towards Peter and probably rightfully so. It wasn't about the ladybug. It was trying to make Peter look bad after he made her look foolish and hurt her all those years. She basically said it.
I like Amina but She shouldn't have any type of resentment towards him.We all know at the end of the day she let Peter treat her like dirt over and over..
I like her but hell she can't blame nobody for what peter did to her hell she thought she won because she had Peter and when Peter did her ass the same way he did Tara now she hurt 🤦🤦#Girl get over it and leave that damn man alone 💯💯💪y'all women be knowing men be messing with another woman and y'all know they be lying but y'all will still believe there lies and still give them a chance knowing it's another woman involved... Y'all be happy to know the other woman hurt because u took their man or u think u did sumin but never laugh at somebody else pain because that same pain came come right back on u but worse💯💯Amina was petty af for bringing that shit up that was dumb to bring that up frfr especially a child that's not even yours... Smh
Mhmm you said it
She does and I get it but, she got to let it go for the sake of the children. 🙏🏿
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Amina knew she was wrong but it's Erica's face when Amina started crying trying to play victim. I love Tara's restraint in this clip.
Tara is so humble
Erica wanted to get in that ass but was being respectful I think for Tara.
Tara is such a lady
Amina didn't mean any harm
Tara doesn’t have restraint …she just really be unbothered lol
The way that Amina is grinning and smiling let's me know that she knew exactly what she was doing. Smh. She didn't get the reaction that she anticipated so, then she started fake crying about what Johnathan said. I appreciate Erica for being honest with Amina.
She did it to be petty from what Peter did with her & Tara..imo Peter didn’t deserve nun of this..only reason I say this is bc if I’m not mistaken and somebody make this make sense..how tf do you get introduced on a show with a woman you have history with right..10+ years and 2 kids..and then the 1st & 2nd Amina shows up..they mf married?? She was doomed from the start she even appeared on the show and then thought because “I’m his wife” meant something..I tell you this man a dude only cheats because the woman ain’t doing something right..yall women are deceptive and smart enough to switch yo emotions once that camera come on tho😂😂basically what I’m saying is she’s 6-7 years too late bro😂😂and then the fact that’s it’s not even your one of your kids with him you too busy worrying about the “other woman”
00:22 Johnathan is me when shit pops off with my family. “They’re going to talk over each other thank you for coming.” 😂😂😂
Right 😂🤣😂🤣
This is me as well but I’ll add:
“Time to go, somebody’s about to get cussed out”!
Lol I was like finally someone with sense
Perioddddd lmfao
I was dead 😂😂
Amina had no right to bring that up period. Because for 1 that's not her child. And 2 the whole world doesn't need to know about a matter that could've easily been discussed behind scenes. Why bring it up now on national tv?
Maybe so they can be forced to answer compared to being offscreen where they could just ignore the question. I noticed the small words used from Terra and Peter like “CHOOSE to love” “CHOOSE who they WANT to be”, as if it is ever a real choice. It says a lot when people listen to small things.
Exactly !!! If I was Tara I would’ve cussed her ahhh out for that !!! Don’t make my baby a topic tf
The point of the show? Money? Bishes like ya'all watching? Are people this stoooopid?
@@lightskinp7165 Real talk. She not only put Peter out on front street, she lowkey put Tara on blast. I'm surprised Tara handled it as gracefully as she did.
@@SmokingzMagiczTreez Let's not act like they don't know when to draw the line. Conversations like this 1 are very sensitive topic that can do damage to public figures. Straight Black men already have a bad stigma when it comes to the topic of homosexuality. Its even worse when that person is a part of hip hop.
Zell is trying so hard not to whoop somebody’s ass so bad. I can tell he is working on improving himself. Love him
He's definitely growing
He has a lot of patience. he is really trying to improve.
Baby the way he ran up on Bobby, and Bobby didn't try to pop, shows me EXACTLY who Bobby know who to play w.
Definitely have growth❤️
@@JuicyCaramel99 🎯
Bobby telling Zell “to stop acting like he isn’t gay” is more harmful than Peter telling his son the difference between gender clothing!!! That’s triggering to me..I’m SO happy Zell spoke his truth! My best friend before he truly excepted himself as a non-feminine gay man, would have to act so over the top, wear things he wasn’t comfortable in ONLY to be excepted by his own gay community! Now he is fine with being a gay man who dresses masculine, and he still has battles with not having to try and be something he isn’t, but he is happy with who he is! Bobby acts like it’s this or that, but it’s not! Zell has been this way all through love and hip hop
THISS
No because really
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Thank you! Not every gay man is feminine! And even beyond that...even those of us that are not masculine, we don't all indulge in stereotypes or the foolishness. Many in the gay community treat you as if you aren't "really gay" unless you live that life. It's stupid and counterproductive.
THANK YOUUU!!!! Cus what tf does “acting gay” look like??? He doesn’t have to be Flamboyantly Feminine to Love men! His dad did right by him! Cus essentially he made him Masculine and Strong so nobody could ever Fuck with him!
Amina knew what she was doing, she wrong as hell for trying to make Peter look homophobic on TV and the fact that she did that out of spite is even worse
First of all he 5 he not 12 or 13..He 5.His daddy is a str8 so y wouldnt he as a father explain to his 5 year thats for girls.That dnt make him homophobic.He is a str8 man...Period..That shit for girlz he 5....That dnt make his 5 year old gay..He 5...Thats for girlz....
She always been spiteful, Aminas White side came out, she became the victim.
Exactly, it’s his child. So if he don’t want his son doing something. It’s his prerogative
She acted off emotions. She mad wrong
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Peter was 100% correct. You teach your kids the difference between things and then let them decide from there.
Thats whats up.He 5...Not 12 or 13...Just cause he was crying they cry over everything at 5.I have a 6 year old grandson he aint wearing no ladybug nothing cause thats for girls...He 6..Thats what he was taught..
Absolutely
Exactly
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Exactly!
Zell was talking about himself. Why he is the way he is. He wasn't trying to put anyone down. He was explaining himself.
Exactly 💯
Yea but he still turned out gay tho so what’s the point
@@kandiforeman615 his point is his dad raised him like a man and allowed him to decide which direction he wanted to go
@@user-ou9tt1iw8v thank you why isn’t anyone understanding that it’s like damn why everyone so hostile that’s his life and his story not there’s
Right, if my son's decided to be gay always be a man first. I can expect you being a man, and gay just own it. Now if my son's start to act more women then me I'll have a problem cause it's only one H.B.I.C where they come from lmao
I love how Rich has been the voice of reason through this whole season
Because he truly loves Peter,he's always there when he's wrong or not.
He's old, tired and finally maturing the creep out of his self lmao Amen! I will say the men on here are changing, as far as the OG's go.
The fact that she used a situation with Peters kid to get back at him didn’t sit well with me
that was overcrossing the line.
@@silence6813 very much. She is a petty bitter hag.
She said he humiliated her on tv so many times but my issue with her is that you allowed it…. she could have left him at anytime …… and it bothers me when other people try to tell someone how they should raise their kids it’s sickening!
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🤣 Amina always crying with no tears!! 🤣 Erica's reaction was priceless hahahaha
Exactly
Lol
Yeah im wondering what the REAL issue is. I dont think she truly cares. I think she was trying to get Peter "cancelled". Her behavior was SO disingenuous. I dont care for her anymore.
It's called an inner cry
@@mspiesundee7202 actually it's not an inner cry ...Inner cry is when you are Crying on the inside means that you are hiding your emotions with somebody or the entire world."she is definitely not hiding her emotions.. I seriously think she wants camera time. Her and Bobby they both are doing the most..
Peter’s explanation was all I needed to see. The moment he said “if when he gets older, that’s what he wants to do…” I applauded him. Peter’s just looking out for his child. Although today things are more acceptable and supported, there are still a lot of very MEAN unwilling souls in the world who choose hate, no matter a person’s age.
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Well said!
That’s all that was and as a Gay male I respect how he handled it he’s protecting his child.
Exactly! It's not Peter's fault that this is the world in which we live.. he said that once his child is of sound mind and is more mature, he can make his own decisions of identity expression and he will fully support him.. that's what it's all about.. the truth is, that nothing should be called "boy" or "girl", but since it is, we all have to try to work around it until that fact is changed for good..IMO
YESSS!!!
I agree with Johnathan, “all our kids know is what makes them happy, we teach them hate”💯
I want grandkids sorry
@@brickosmix2223 That was a dumbass statement
No we don't...we teach them order and boundaries
@@brickosmix2223 EXACTLY
I agree 100% don’t worry about the 3 clowns who replied to your comment ❤
2:53 Amina just sitting there happy at the mess she just caused.
Lmao not gonna lie i do petty shit like that too sometimes.. Lmao its fun
@SpeedAfrobeatsYT yeah i know but its still fun though😁
@@tonystarks9150 that shit ain’t cute. Toxic energy is never needed
You mean Peter caused right, by treating his son a certain type not way that didn't sit right with Amina?
She smiled so hard... I knew she would be cryin lololol😂👏
Bobby did the absolute most🤦🏾♀️.
I can totally understand how Peter felt
He was saying he was not yelling when he was lmao
Per usual
I'm on Peter's side and shame on Amina for doing this on tv. Did she ever think how her outing the son would affect the son? There's a time and place for everything. She was so wrong for this.
Yeah she was wrong. That’s not her place because last I checked she only had girls with him, so why put him on blast to try* to make him look bad. 😑 she seems bitter.
Outing him? her son is a child, she just said that he was enforcing a negative stereotype. And its crazy that when Peter was clowning her for years nobody had a problem but she makes one little comment and Peter is hurt.
@@SageCypher Don't project your sh!t and then flip the script. Like you wrote, this a child. Not her child and for her to step into a business that doesn't belong to her, is foul so let me rephrase myself: Amina used a CHILD to get revenge on her baby daddy when SHE was the one who stepped on Tara's relationship with Peter. But I guess you forgot that part huh? 😒 Amina trying to put Peter on blast has absolutely nothing to do with Peter being a homophobic or not, which he isn't or anything related to the LGBTQ-discussion. Amina just wanted to make him look bad for the choices SHE made.
@@gabriella3993 I’m not projecting anything, I can’t relate to them in any way thankfully but I can also see that she spoke out of hurt and Peter decided to step out and he married her and they both have children by him so they are blended it’s not like she doesn’t know anything I’m sure both Amina Tara and all their kids spend a lot of time together
@@SageCypher Which makes it 10x worse if they spend a lot time together. These are children and we all know that bullies in schools are ruthless these days. You don't think that her statement makes this kid a target at school and among his friends? I don't know if you have kids, little siblings or little cousins but ask yourself if you're completely comfortable with a stranger who not only deliberately broke up their family but aired their private moments on international tv because they're hurt? She can do whatever she wants to Peter but don't bring his or her children into that mess. She's so foul for that. Let's not forget that these are black boys. Already a target by the society.
Between Amina and Bobby, this could’ve been so much more wholesome. This moment was ridiculous AF.
The fact that almost everyone there told Amina that she was wrong & her response was that she was doing the same thing to Peter, as he did to her by embarrassing her on national tv, spoke volumes. You don’t ever speak on someone else’s child for no reason at all! Tara acted like the queen she is because I would have knocked her front teeth out speaking in mine.
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Agree 1000%, she did all that in retaliation for the way their story was portrayed on television. Hell, she said it herself, "After the way he made me look on television, I don't care how I make him look." The issue is that her statement, if taken and ran with by the wrong person, could really damage his entire life, not to mention how it will make his son feel, later down the road, when he's old enough to understand what's going on. Homophobia is a serious issue, and even tho people that have been watching this show KNOW that Peter is not homophobic, that statement about the costume could look really bad. And then to attempt to put Tara down as well, let's just say Amina is lucky that Tara isn't with the mess, cuz other cast members would've smacked her cross eyed. Amina needs to worry about her 2 revenge babies and leave Tara and her boys out of her mouth! She's clearly still pissed that even tho Peter married her, she is, was, and will forever be his Side Chick. How u got a whole husband that's still living with the mother of his children? She thought that ring meant something and when she found out that it didn't she's been plotting her revenge, too bad that didn't work out for her either🤷🏼
What???..... I had 5 people tell me I was wrong about a song title and then when everyone looked up the song they found out they all 5 was WRONG!!! standing alone and defending yourself is not wrong that sound like some pussy shit..... If I'm right I don't care how many people tell me I'm wrong so i guess I would of been scrapping
@@tianamariee6287 All facts!
Girl is Embarrassing herself and she the reason she come off looking like a fool.
Amina still hates Peter. Amina is Wrong for Bringing that up when it isn't her son. I actually feel bad for Amina because I think the Bitterness comes from When Amina had A Abortion & Tara had Peter's Baby
It really comes from her lookin stupid on tv cuz of peter so she wants to make him look stupid now
Which btw she failed she made herself look stupid this time lmao
She mad because she got left an know she was never the one he wanted that's hate
@@jataviusodom1740 the both of them wasn’t what he wanted. Bc he would of act right
Amina brought that hurt on herself
Stevie J. can be 100% serious and he still makes me laugh 😂😂
Lmao 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I thought he been off this shit
Like whenever Jose line left
Every time 🤣
Lmfaoooooo
“I don’t give a shit how I make him look! You know how he made me look on TV a million times?!” .. There it is. Amina saw her opportunity to dig at Peter and she took it. She was grinning and smiling the whole time Peter was upset and stormed out but as soon as the tables turned she wanted to cry. Girl. Bye. You started all this mess😭🤣
She allowed that for herself tho the first time I see you making me look stupid you dead think I’am keep going back
It’s the way Rich keeps clapping his hands for me😂😂😂
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real new york shit 😂
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LMFAO FR
Time stamp 😭😭
Amina dead wrong, and soon as they started pressing her, the truth came out. She didn't care about Peter son potentially being unable to be himself, she just saw a chance to expose Peter and make him look like a hypocrite. And to think, I actually respected how she chose to deal with her and Peter's issues behind the scenes. 😒
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I don’t think that’s true. I think that she said what she had to say genuinely and then they were pressing for how it made Peter look and that’s kinda a slap in the face bc they saw that he had POOR intentions when he embarrassed her
@@CaiyaSanchez Well, if her intentions were genuine she went about it poorly. Amina knew how saying what she said would make Peter look, but as she stated herself, she doesn't care if the father of her child looks.
Amina is a spiteful person.
So fkin wat
So THAT'S what this is about. Amina is still embarrassed about how she made HERSELF look by chasing after a man who was already in a relationship so she decides to make Peter seem like he's homophobic in order to tarnish his reputation. This was a failed attempt at payback. Nothing more. Nothing less.
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She need help poor little weak thang
@@carloswallace8547 😂😂😂 lmao
And her narrow ass was just screeching and yelling like a crazy person all I heard was
YOUTHINKICAREABOUTGAHAHABBAJKSNGA
She hurt damn self she made herself look bad on marriage was the first peter told the truth she ask him to marry her for a green card he told her he was in a relationship with Tara and lived with but she pursued him
I’m so proud of these comments. Level headed AND accepting. There can be both.
Amina was wrong she possibly outed Tara and Peters son on television. Not her place to say anything about someone’s child period. She did it for revenge and she even said it
I heard it too that's dam shame she still in her feelings
And that's the problem I had with this whole scene!
He’s 5. He’s a little kid.
First of all he 5..They cry over everything..Just cried dnt mean he wanna b a dam girl..She was wrong..He 5 its not like he 12 or 13 he 5..His str8 daddy told him the diff.As his parent. Not someone who's homophobic he5.
you clearly don't know what outed means
This is season is so interesting because of the topics and themes that they are discussing. This masculinity topic is good.
Yes! I been waiting for years for them to bring these issues up on the show.
I agree! Instead of he spoke to her let’s have these REAL life conversations
That's why so many dl men
This makes me love Jonathan, honestly. He's really putting in the effort to open the conversation. And you already know there will be resistance to it.
It's also an agenda.
Bobby exploded the whole thing and took shy out of proportion putting words in people mouth. Zelle explained everything well .
He’s always messy bro 😭
@@DatA737 well ? We still need masculine men no matter their sexual preferences
@@DatA737 I think what he said is being blown out of proportion he just basically reworded what Peter said. That his father raised him to know the difference of boy and girl and let him be who he want to be as he grew older. As a child as they say you only see happiness. You don't see other people and adults wanting to hurt you simply because you're a child wearing a costume outside your gender. That's what Zelle is explaining. Bobby blew that way out of proportion. I get where Bobby coming from but he put words in Zelle's mouth
@@rochel492 exactly, he articulated it perfectly the ones that didn't get were the ones that didn't want to get, Bob got triggered by the "I was raised by my dad" and took it out of proportion.
@@justsaying8358 Right. He didn't word it wrong he kept getting cut off so it sounded wrong if they let him finish like the 3 men did at the end it wouldn't have been this big of a deal
Peter is really maturing He has a right as a father to choose for a child. I believe Peter is a good dad period!
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You realize bugs can be males. He didnt teach him anything but sexism
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You're gonna dislocate your shoulder from that reach
@@imaniyup7908then Why was it on the girls section and not boys?
This time Peter wasn’t wrong. He just told him the biological differences. They moved on. Amina just took this opportunity to call out Peter cause she was hoping they would all go against him and it backfire. He’s not wrong for waiting for him be older to have a better understanding.
So he’s waiting for his son to understand that ladybugs and the color pink is for girls ??
It didn't backfire. She was right. He pretty much admitted it was a gender issue. It also contradicted Terra saying on Halloween he didnt want to be a ladybug anymore. The idea had already been shut down and it was something that was no longer an option.
I'm more annoyed at it becoming mic night lmao there are far too many adults who need attention on this show who all have a history of being shitty people. The wrong people wanted to set Amina straight in defense of trash ass Peter.
Simple!!!!!
Big up Zell
@@TikTokForest no, she was wrong for doing that infront of everyone. Instead of when it happened.
How can she think that she was justified in speaking on someone elses household!!! She knew what she was starting
You shol right and what was wrong wit him telling his 5 year old the diff...Peter is a str8 man what else would he have said???She was wrong.
Someone else household... did yall not watch any of the seasons... she was their step mother and still in their lives lmao yall acting like she spoke on a random strangers on the Internet household.... like yall do
That’s what white women do 🥴🤣🤣
You know how bad the situation is, when Stevie J, Rich and Erica speaks facts... 😳
Right
@@imanifavors4351 😆u are soooo ryt, u have cracked my ribs!!! Soooo true!!!!
And are on the same.side at that
Rich been making me proud this whole season!
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The fact Erica Mena being the ACTUAL voice of reason though 😮😮😮
I am SO PROUD of Zell!!!!! Before in his season, i thought he was a big bully, and my opinion of him had not changed, UNTIL TODAY! I think it shows that he is not the immature bully that i thought that he was even at the beginning of this season. Good Job Zell! I like you again.
Rightt?? His apology to Mimi made me see him in a whole new light.🤙
Seems like he still is a bully. If someone doesn't want their male son wearing a girl costume oh tf well. It's not your position to say shit. Everyone's kids isn't going to grow up damaged like you.
Gays are not a race of people. Discrimination against Blacks is very different from discrimination against gays.
If I was Tara I’d be pissed at Amina. How dare she use a child to get back at her ex. Now that kid is going to school with a target on his back and people assuming the worst about his dad.
Facts 💯💯💯
Exactly
There are 5 yr olds watching this show? Pretty sure they will think that because he is. He has how many kids, with how many different women, in how many different locations and it's recorded how he breaks women's hearts.
Lmao ya cuz kindergarten kids are big love n hip hop fans 🤣🤣. What kinda target is going on the back of a 5 year old? Ain't none of his classmates gonna hear about this argument and guaranteed they wouldn't understand it nor care if they did.
@@pocketlinttreasures33 yea but when the 5 year old get older they can pull this up on the internet and clown his son
I’m gay and I understand both sides. I don’t think toys have any influence on your sexuality but Peter also has a right as a dad to try and give his child direction. That’s what my parents did. Once I was 18, my parents let me live my life the way I wanted too. I’m grateful that they allowed me to be me but also gave me guidance.
"I don't give a shit how I made him look. Do you know how many he made me look on tv a million times"
This sentence shows that she's still not over Peter playing her, and I don't blame her for that. The duration of our heartbreaks aren't the same, but what she did shows that she wanted revenge. This clarifies for me that she had revenge sex with Cisco.
All choices and in that situation somebody was going to get hurt, if not all of them.
She did that to herself she knew bout Tara nobody forced her into having kids she cudda left evy body got choices n she made hers
@@dramaqueen-ou4hx yup
Acting like she cares about his son... Did you care about his tears when you took his father out of his house? Did you care about his tears when he had to watch his mother cry over the betrayal? Girl bye!
That makes sense.
He tried to explain and even Tara defended him it shouldn’t be nothing more than that but you got Bobby tryna go for everybody 🤣
Exactly.. like he trying too hard to get camera time... doing the most
The big smirk on amina face says it all. She's vindictive and spiteful! It's not her child it's not her business she wanted to drop Peter in it but it backfired on her!
Bobby was giving trina vibes 🤣
Omg years later and Amina is still screeching and crying 😂😂
I'm with Peter on this one. He simply just pointed out what is for girls, and what is for boys. Now granted, what is considered for boys and for girls can be deabted. But I personally think it's important for kids to understand the difference, so when they get older (like Peter said), they'll know the difference, and then can make their own choices. Aside from that, talking about someone's child on national television...I don't like that.
That's DUMB. What's "for boys" and what's "for girls" is some shit that's made up by adults. Kids don't care about any of that shit. They just want to play.
@@NursePN09 Reading is important. I literally said what is for girls and what is for boys can be debated.
@@NursePN09 no this comment is stupid 💯 if you think there’s no difference between males and females then you’re living on some alternate earth or something. Ever heard the phrase “Men are from Mars and women are from Venus”? I’m gonna need you to come back to reality
but it’s not like we’re talking about his son wanting to dress up as freaking princess tiara, it’s a LADYBUG, a bug that can be male AND female
@@27MELEIKM gender is not real. there are differences between female and male but how me treat each and how we socialize them (this example exactly with a feminine costume) isn't biological and doesn't really matter
I'm on Peter's side for once. Kid's can be cruel, heck, society in general can be cruel and I know that all too well, so when my daughter comes to me with toys or costumes that society deemed back in the day, are for little boys, my natural reaction is to say, "hey you know those are for boys right?". That doesn't mean I'm against people for who they choose to be or who they choose to love, it's just a natural reaction I have, to protect my daughter from being made fun of. Now if my daughter insists that she wants the thing in question, of course I get it for her. I just want to make sure she's deciding on something because it's what she wants that way I can back her up if she needs me to. I want my daughter to make her own educated choices, to the absolute best of her ability and I want her to understand that sometimes consequences come with those choices. We need to be fully open with our children, and unfortunately these days, that includes exposing them to the hate they might receive, but also teaching them to rise above it and be better than that. We can't expect change and progress, without openness and honesty. People fear things they don't understand. I could care less if my daughter loves men or women, wants kids or doesn't and so on, but that doesn't mean I don't want her to understand why she feels that way and that feeling that way is okay, but that it may bring hate her way from others around her. She needs to be prepared for it so she can learn ways to deal with it.
This comment I agree fully 100% and your Peter was correct in his response even Tara backed him up! Amina has animosity that she needs to handle and sort through. That was messy for no apparent reason. I love the way Zell stood as well speaking as man that is Bi but had a heterosexual father raise him.
We really should think of how we allow society to mold our thinking and how we project that onto our children.
You questioned her choices and telling her they're not for her gender can have an effect on her questioning the things she enjoys.
It happened to me as a little girl and I had a struggle with balancing my feminine and masculine energies.
I get we've mostly conformed to society, but what we deem society norms usually isn't right or fair to everyone.
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@@dancemusikk why did you struggle? Can you give me a example
But you just made your daughter second guess her natural decision to want a toy. By putting in her head that it’s a boys toy you are making her doubt her natural instincts. Think about what that’s going to do to her next time to picks a toy, “is this for me or for a boy?” .. why stress her out out so young. The world is cruel but instead of shining light on it in your home, remind your daughter that those unimportant gender roles should never make her second guess her natural instincts
I think Amina was waiting to call out Peter for a very long time after everything he put her through and she just use this as an excuse
This. She’s wrong. And it wasn’t even her kid to begin with.
Um.....did u watch the entire video??? She said that at the end!!
That’s exactly what she’s doing. She wants him to be humiliated like she was.
Bingo
Yes. And the problem with that is, just like after the first time she found out Peter cheated and decided to stay, she ended up playing herself. Everyone saw through her act from the jump.
I like how Erica kept it real with Amina and let her know she was in the wrong. Good friend move.
Bbaaabbbyyy Bobby was waiting for his moment this season 🤣🤣🤣 Amina was wrong, Peter was right, and Zell was right Period, loved Zell in this scene 🙂
Amina was wrong. She could’ve said it at the point it happened. Not in front of everybody and embarrass Peter. But everybody ganging up on Amina and her having a meltdown 😂😂☠️☠️
Girl she reached deep in that German bag for that fake hurt. No tears though. I can't🙄🙄🙄🙄
Someone should play her a sad song on the world's smallest violin for those fake crocodile tears.
Lmaooo she went full white girl
I don’t think it was so much about Peter telling his son he can’t wear the ladybug outfit. I think there is a deeper issue here, Peter embarrassed Amina on TV multiple times by cheating on her, trying to get back with Tara and having a baby on her. She’s hasn’t properly healed from it that’s why she felt she could embarrass him like that and it’s wrong.
@@lowkey4327 exactly, she was never concerned about the kid, she just wantes to get back at him for embarrassing her so much over the years. She has every right to be mad about that, but to use his kid as a pawn to embarrassing him was dead wrong and she overcrossed the line.
I never thought I’d say this but I agree with Peter. Bobby and Amina are doing too damn much.
This would have been a perfect time for Tara to slap Amina again because she just started drama for no reason. 😑😑😑😑😑
Imagine, these people had me agreeing with Peter and his dirty feet. I was determined to go my whole life thinking all that came out his mouth was trash lol
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 I CANNOT!
AS A PROUD GAY MAN, I actually agree with Peter for once. Bobby needs to 🤫… Every gay guy doesn’t have to walk around in pink tutu’s and rainbows. Like chill. Peter clearly respects the lgbt community and Zel was just speaking from HIS perspective. Bobby is literally getting mad bc people aren’t agreeing with him. Stfu 😑 If a child was old enough to make his/her own decisions, then a child would be given a driver’s license at birth!
Same
@@jamealmerrill 💛
To be honest Amina should have never said it like dhat..bcuz if the mom didn’t feel that was a issue she would have spoken up
I will say sometimes another person can sometimes offer that perspective that you may not have seen. Not saying its necessarily the case here but I can see why she said that.
If Tara couldn't speak up for 13 years of sacking up with a cheater then I highly doubt she would've spoken up on this publicly. Tara ain't get no real balls til that "family trip" during that dinner with Peter.
You shol right now Tara gon feel some type of way towards her..He 5...They cry over everything...She went too far..Peter is str8 as his parent he is to guide his son 5 years old..Not 12 or 13...He 5..
@@cchisolm92cc Everything is different when it comes to their children. Yeah she didnt speak up when Peter cheated but they both are good parents and take care of their kids so this whole thing was just ew and a big no
I love how Zell is, this is what Everyone is saying you do not have be so flamboyant to be considered gay. Zell talked about how his raised him as a tough man but he still chose to gay in sensuality. But if you express yourself in a flamboyant way that is you. And everybody doesn't has to push it on their children.
exactly
chose to be gay. lady bye
Definitely agree
THE FATHER HAS A RIGHT TO DECIDE WHAT HE BELIEVES IS CORRECT FOR HIS CHILD
Yea he 5
Exactly I wish people stop trying to tell people how to raise their kids it’s annoying
thank youuuu.
The problem is folks of this day and age forget that it is the PARENTS responsibility to raise their child. Teach them wrong and right. You don't have the child make the decisions for themselves. While they are still a child you are the one that dictates everything for them. When they are old enough THEN they can dictate their own but in the real formative years YOU the parent are responsible for steering them correctly.
Well it's kind of hard for that to happen with some parents. You got kids who will never get a chance to have that type of decision. You got some kids who parents are deceased, jailed, or simply don't know who there dad is due to family mishaps.
Exactly, parents have the right to raise their child as they see fit as long as it’s not illegal
Peter rarely ever gets one from me but 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 he’s very correct. I’m a part of the LGBTQ community & I understand exactly what Peter said. He wasn’t wrong & isn’t anti-gay at all. Bobby, is projecting.
Exactly what I said. I’m a lesbian and this didn’t even need to be this deep!
Amina is wrong on this one. Those aren't her kids. She shouldn't really speak on Peter's relationship with his kids that aren't hers. Or things that go on in someone else's household. Leave it alone.
Flat out! She ain’t shit for that! No typo of family or loyalty. I don’t care about how things went in the relationship, you shouldn’t throw him under the bus like that!
She’s dead wrong. No excuses
I AGREE!!
I agree especially when she was the one who put herself in that situation with him when he was with his sons mother Tara first
I’m behind Zell 100%!!
Let a child be a child !!!
How is it letting a child be a child if the parent is forbidding them from wanting to wear a ladybug costume ?
I’m gonna go with Tara here. On Halloween her son didn’t even want to be the ladybug and he had a costume already so they didn’t want to buy another one. If it was a huge deal, Amina should’ve pulled them aside and said her concerns. Wrong place and time for that. (Of it matters, I’m bisexual and from a family that isn’t the most LGBT friendly but this didn’t feel abrasive to me)
Peter already shut it down. He said so himself. Tara still love that man and he got Cheaters money now.
Exactly
Why does she think she has a say in the raising of Peter and Tara's child? This is the moment Tara should've slapped Amina not after she announced she was married lol
He admitted what she said was true, now people are lying to defend him. Of all people to defend.
First she didnt have to say shit...And he 5 they cry for every thang...His daddy st8..He 5 not 12 or 13...Thats for girlz.Him as a parent is supposed to teach him that sort of stuff He 5...Just cause he wanted a ladybug Halloween costume don't mean to damn baby need therapy..He 5..THATS FOR GIRLZ..
Amusing how he cheated on Tara, married amina, did all these things to Tara & in the present time - Tara is the one still speaking truth, not slandering him yet the one he cheated on her with is the one trying to pin him as homophobic & then some. Whew chile!
I honestly loved Stevie's confessional. Maturity.
See Amina been the same vindictive person she’s always been. She said Peter embarrassed her for years.. so she’s going to get him back while once again dragging Tara and her kids in it. Like man. Something is wrong with her
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Amina really be reaching bro. She's still mad Peter chose Tara
I'm loving the NEW ZELL! Big ups to Peter for standing his ground! He has the right to raise his child with informed decisions. Amina is a whole clown for trying to cause chaos at a childs expense smh. And Bobby need to go visit his Dad and get a hug cause he was TRIGGERED hunny
Amina after being called out and things backfiring on her literally told on herself the real reason why she even brought that up. She wanted make him look bad after he made her look bad for years on TV. She was being vengeful and spiteful. Y'all know how cruel and sensitive society is. That man will get canceled, blackballed and the usual. Bobby took it personal and made the situation worse by how he went about it. I agree with Zell, Erica, Rich, Peter and Tiara.
nobody told amina to stay with peter and get embarrassed on national TV. plus she still married him before and after being humiliated on TV. what peter and Tara do with their kids is their business. amina just wanted to make it about her ..
@@only_martinalynn9207 Exactly. NOW she wants to make him pay? Red flags were constantly being waved at her but she just collected them instead of boucing after the 1st one. You made your choices ma 🤷🏽♀️
Bobby took that whole situation WAY too personal and was doing entirely too much. Amina looked and sounded like a silly young girl 🤦
So did zell
Amina crying got me dead 🤣🤣 but why do they keep telling Zell that’s he’s gay just to piss him off and they know he’s bisexual? 🤔
Nah y’all wilding in the comments, as a bisexual I wouldn’t like being called a “straight” or “gay”. Bisexuals are the last sexuality people care about and they don’t understand that being Bisexual ISN’T the same as straight or gay. Yes they have similarities but y’all not gonna tell a bisexual who they like or how they are if you ain’t bisexual yourself. It don’t matter if anyone looks straight or too gay for you. You don’t identify anybody sexuality but your own.
Well I know I’m going to get some flack for this but ….. once you sleep with the same sex that automatically makes you gay. Just because you like both doesn’t change the fact . What’s the definition of being gay ? Bobby was right . He’s gay.
I didn't know he was Bi
@@t3up220 you wouldn't say the same thing for a girl would you?
@@t3up220 Absolutely false sleeping with the same sex and sleeping with the opposite sex doesn’t make you straight or gay it makes you exactly wtf zell said he is a BISEXUAL because he’s attracted to both not just one. Laying down with the same sex does not automatically make you gay just like a gay person sleeping with a woman does not automatically make them straight, Zell is bisexual he likes both I wish people would stop tryna tell bisexual people what they’re. There’s different types of attraction you can be sexually attracted to a gender and not be emotionally attracted to a gender meaning you have no issue fucking them but you don’t want to be in a relationship with or see yourself with that gender or having emotions involved at all.
@@t3up220 I mean, he said that he eventually wants a wife and kids so he's making it known he's available to women. His onlyfans says different. Also, in the gay community, hi, there's this thing where men will market themselves as bisexual to appeal to more masculine men. Not saying that's Zell's case. It's just he spent most of Love and Hip Hop/Basketball wives being in women business and hooking up with men.
In conclusion, stop fucking up yall kids so that they focus more on their passions in life instead of looking for validation elsewhere.
4:04 zell came back for Bobby real quick 😭🤣🤣🤣🤣
Johnathan,Bobby,and zelle I love them they argued and took accountability and fixed it and listened to each other's point of view 🥺🥺😍😍😍 that's how it should be and that's proof they love each other
Huh??? What you mean? All I saw in this scene was Bobby and Zell screaming their heads off at each other and then Bobby storming off! Only Jonathan kept it cool-and it doesn’t look like he got involved in the argument anyway.
@@WestIndianAK Yeahhhh I saw EXACTLY what you saw. A bunch of yelling (except Jonathan) and screaming. And no one really listening to eachother.
@@WestIndianAK they talked it out later in the episode
I Agree 💪🏾💯👀🚫🧢
People know that to say anything in Hollywood about Jews and/or gays can get you immediately cancelled without a the need of a public consensus. So, Peter is like “don’t bring that heat on my name/character and ultimately my money.” Meanwhile, in Hollywood, say anything about blacks and you’re good. You know how many times Mariahlynn said “on everything I love, my nigga” yet she was never reprimanded by the cast nor production❓This is why blks need to get into ownership so they can cancel ppl too that speak out of pocket against them.
I like the way rich is the voice of reason this season.Lord knows they need that
Ikr, son out here checking people lmfao
How doesn’t she understand that’s not her place? You raise your children how you deem fit. The world shouldn’t raise your children you should.
Peter was right and I feel the same way about my sons if they chose to wear flamboyant clothing when they get older I’m gonna support them and love them. We are there to steer them in the right direction not to keep putting road blocks on they journey!!
I understand Peter and I respect him for standing behind his children no matter what their preference is. Amina was wrong for that.
Yea he 5 thats for girls..Whats wrong with that.My grandson 6...He aint wearing no ladybug Halloween costume
@@lorindamiller5479 exactly!! She was really coming for him that’s wrong asf & thats not even her child why would she speak on that for
Peter said, "I got a pink shirt on!" LOL!!
Right 😭😂😂
Amina DID have a moment on Peter.... Her demeanor and body language when she said it... IT WAS PURPOSEFUL FOR SURE!
“Beefin at the gay pride joint.” 😂😂😂
It’s nothing wrong with a parent telling their child that something that’s meant for girls is not for boys that’s great parenting. Let them get old enough to make those decisions for themselves people be trying to force stuff on kids it’s weird. He’s not wrong for that at all
Gay isn't a choice and pink is just a color the boy chose what he wanted
Yeah but at the same you shouldn’t deny your kids things they want because of what society think is acceptable. And how’s that forcing stuff on kids if that’s what they choose to dress up in?
I agree ! It’s like we have to adopt this agenda as if they will not be gay if they don’t learn to be feminine as a child STOP ✋
@@wikipedia0 that don't make sense we always telling our kids right from wrong and I bet you don't tell your kid yes to everything if you do have kids you tell your kid no sometimes so you don't make any sense that's like my kid saying I want to be a murderer and I say okay
exactly atp just let people raise they kid how they want to, not everyone has to have the same opinion as you, at the end of the day that’s their kid not yours.
Amina that’s not your child that’s Peter and Tara’s child you deadass wrong mind yours
Right
They sister wives its all one big happy (Cult like) family 🤣
I love how Johnathan handled telling that guy thank you and what it is about to be with all that yelling and screaming. I just love to hear Johnathan talk. His voice is everything to me.❤❤❤❤
Amina knew EXACTLY what she was doing! That was an intentional dig at Peter & Tara. She then said “Tara was in the room & didn’t say anything”! She is still bitter & totally used this instance in the wrong context! This was totally wrong!
Peter is not wrong!!. My little brother went to the girls section of the store, he saw paw Patrol pyjamas. I told him no it’s for girls let’s go to the boys section and get one for him. That is not wrong!!
You did right you did nothing wrong
Nothing wrong with that...Nothing.
that 100% good parenting
She’s STILL MAD about how he dogged her out so she wanted to try to dog him ! She know damn well that ONE moment is NOT sitting on her heart like that ! She really really REALLY tried it !
I’m so proud of you Zell !!
And there we have the truth. Amina said it to get back at him. People have to understand that although we live in a time where things are “more acceptable” there are still consequences for every action both positive and negative. As a father just like Zelle explained how his father taught him, Peter was just trying to prepare his son.
I definitely understand where Amina is coming from, but I believe in there being a time and a place for everything and certain things shouldn't be handled for reality tv consumption especially when it comes to children. I think she could have had a more intimate/private conversation away from the cameras with Tara(since that is her son) and Peter about the situation. Everything doesn't need to be a moment for TV.
I understand myself, but after hearing her say she don’t care how he feel are look after all the embarrassment he put her threw, this season going to be good😜
Lol with Peter and Amina’s history nothing has been off camera
Its not even her child. Its Taras child. Amina was completely out of place. They share the same BD not the same kid.
@@jasminegreene8159 Thats not the point, she not trying to be Tara's son new mom but their family's are blended and especially them its a different kinda blend. She is clearly still affected by Peter and i dont blame her
@@jasminegreene8159 she’s their step mom so she has to love them like there hers but can’t have an opinion cause their not her kids please explain???
Amina Buddafly, I love you baby but you're out of pocket.
Don't act like a caterpillar when you're a butterfly. 💚💜
caterpillars are phenomenal creatures wtf
@@mickiellah But they haven't reached their full potential yet.
@@Forsaken860huh? Butterflies live relatively short lives 😭
Clever lol
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Love Tara so much, cool calm and collected ❤
Amina needs to mind her business at this point
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This subject is always sensitive. Especially with kids involved. This probably should have been kept private between the parents. I think Amina should have not said anything publicly. Bobby was doing too much also.
Bobby as always doing too much love from 🇿🇦
Peter isn’t wrong now since he further explained, but he should’ve stayed to explain it to Amina at least because she’s the one that really felt a type of way of that moment, even if it wasn’t her place or kids, atleast she shows she cares for the kids. I mean why not, since she’s gonna have to deal with the same guy to HER own child.
Only thing I don’t agree with Peter is that idk why you have to wait till you’re 18 and older to figure out what you wanna start wearing and acting. But atleast he supports it, I HOPE
amina shouldnt feel anyway cause its not her child
Amina was wrong period. If the mother "Tara" did NOT say anything, then why Amina felt the need to open her mouth. Did Amina say something to Peter back in October...NO! She waited for the cameras. That shit ain't genuine. Besides Peter can and should raise his children the way he sees fit. As long as he's not abusing them. He told his son right...that is a girl's costume!
@@nadellaleach166 it don’t have to be ur child to feel a type of way. Ur entitled to feel as u please. Amina wasn’t wrong for feeling the way she did.
Peter is the type of dude that screams out loud that he's an ally but would never condone it with his own kids. Especially his sons. It's so evident on the way he explained it. Who cares if your 5 year old wants to wear a pink costume?? When I was a kid my brother and I used to play dress up with my mothers clothes and wigs and have a ball. You can wear whatever the fuck you want to wear, Peter's logic is just odd..
@M.A.P. Investments Research no she’s not if you’re being disrespected by your parents and your teacher sees it is your teacher wrong to point it out no
2:53 Amina smirking at all the chaos she just caused.
Seems like Amina is going through something and Bobby is Annoying asf he's always so hurt by anything that's Related with his kind of people lmao
This cast did not disappoint it was fun to watch
Peter is 100 right. You teach your kids that what parents are for.
“you wrong butterfly, butternuts, butterstuff”🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
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Theres no right or wrong in this situation. You raise your kid as you see fit.
The wrong is when other people don't mind their business. Amina had no business bringing that up.
You raise your child to be the best individual they can be. Some people out here are raising their kids to be their own support animal, servant, provider and more, because they feel entitled to their children's existence. There should be a law that says that you must pass several tests before you can become a parent.
@@Muffinga Exactly!!!
@@tynikagrant6995 thank you!!
The wrong is when it aint ur kid...Thats tha wrong...The right is what u said raise yo kids how u see fit..And thats real.
Amina was wrong! 1st off that wasn’t her child, so why bring that up. She was out of line and she’s lucky Tara is mature because I felt like Amina brought it up out of spite. Not towards Tara but towards Peter and that’s not cool to throw a child in that.
I agree..He 5 they cry over everything.His daddy st8 so of course thats his reaction..Nothing about was homophobic to me cuz he 5 years old.12 or 13..He 5 thats for girls...
@@lorindamiller5479 I also feel like, if he didn’t want his child at 5 years old to wear the costumes that’s his child. That doesn’t mean he’s homophobic. My daughter wanted to be something one year and I felt she wasn’t old enough to wear it. It was something with blood and knives but I didn’t let her get it because I felt it was too violent.
@@kamd1796 And damit that was your right..Thats ur kid.And how dare anybody tell u diff...That was ur decision as her parent.