Very great debaters. I sharpen my mind by listening to your powerful words and everyday i listen to you i learn something new. If you enjoy the same show a like👍 on this comment
The motion was skewed to the favour opposers. It was Computer replacing teachers, so the argument by Moi Forces combining teachers and computers wasn't part of the motion and tha facilitators ignored this. The boys cleverly took this advantage and sounded more logical without the examiners/facilitators even redirecting the debate to original motion! The proposers therefore had a tough task to sell the an unsellable. The opposers had it easy and logically by combining teachers with computers. So, the skewed motion handed opposers a win too easily. I therefore opine that proposers never lost the debate but the Composers of the motion gave advantage to opposers. I propose a tie if not a win for proposers for trying to sell a hard to sell commodity.
Not true. The proposers had to prove computers should replace teachers but the opposers could go any path that is contrary to that. Saying teachers cannot be replaced can be done in two ways 1. Teachers should replace computers or 2. Teachers can work together with computers If we go by your logic, even the proposers were off-topic by saying instructors can be used to explain or guide learners on computers. Well, I think the proposers could win if they tried harder by using some points: 1. Computers can allow long-distance learning (learners can learn from anywhere, anytime) 2. Computers can allow learners to learn at their own pace(as opposed to teachers when teachers can get tired of explaining the same thing) 3. Computers can record lessons to be used for future reference (that is, one can use the same notes without writing or memorizing as it can be saved) 4. Computers do not have physical limitations like tribal accents, stammering, poor grammar, lateness, attitude 5. Computers are less costly that is you only need to buy computers; the cost of maintenance per computer is lower than the cost per teacher(in terms of salary and facilitations like chalks, offices, pens, whiteboards) The key is to demonstrate that teachers are not needed entirely at any stage of learning. Once you accept they are needed at any point, you lose the debate so go strong into the debate Rebuttal points 1. An integrated system will fail. For example, Julius Yego became a champion without a coach, after he started using a coach, his performance dropped. Using teachers with computers is not needed. Programmers (not teachers) can set the curriculum in the computer and any needed changes can be modified using the same programmers. A teacher will just be paid for nothing as a learner can pause, repeat or even seek more material from the same computer 2. Firing 250,000 teachers is a good thing, not bad. We need a value addition economy, not a redundant one just to please people yet no value is added. For example, we are paying 250,000 teachers so many millions yet we could invest in one laptop per learner and incur no cost at all for the next 18 years that learner would be in school. What will happen to the teachers you ask? The same thing that happened to laborers when combined harvester, lawnmower, vacuum cleaner, dishwasher, blender and other machines were introduced. If you had a blender that could blend 50 mangoes in less than 1 hour and the only cost you would incur is about 20 shillings in terms of electricity cost, would you instead go employing 3 workers who would manually pound the 50 mangoes into paste in more than the required time and yet you would pay them more? 3. Emphasize you want to do away with the teachers. Give an example where fast learners are inconvenienced by teachers. Some learners can learn the entire syllabus in 1 term yet teachers are dragging them behind for a whole year. These learners could provide more value like research into other fields using the help of computers that can give them knowledge the teacher does not know. For example a form four learner who is done with the syllabus may want to learn about space travel yet his four four teacher knows little about it. The computer has everything in store for the learner. We do not need teachers, in fact, they are a burden. Slow learners are also inconvenienced. This is because they may need more time per lesson as opposed to the usual time allocated. A computer can give that more time as a learner can study the course in bits and pause to his satisfaction 4. Computers have a personal appeal. Lessons can be made fun using videos, voice notes, drawings and other tools. In fact, a computer can produce 100s of images and videos to explain a point in just one lesson. Can a teacher do that? Additionally, if a student does not like a certain video on one lesson, he can skip and go to the next. Can he ask a teacher to stop using a certain teaching method? Of course not. So the argument of personal appeal is trashed 5. Issue of role models. If a teacher is your role model, then a computer can produce 1000s of role models. You learn about great physicists and other notable pioneers in the field using a computer. If role models is your inspiration, then why stop at one teacher and computer can show you millions of role models? Plus, what happens if you do not like your teacher, will you fail in your studies? A computer solves that by simply showing you another model. But try asking your school to change your teacher, see how that goes! NB: I think teachers are amazing and good role models but for the sake of debate, if you want to win, go strong and take no prisoners
Very educational learning and teaching in English oral as a secondary language. More, 'excellent education policy to you Govt to enforce education as tool to conquer the world. I wish my govrt do the same for our education. Love the debate from bothe sides and continue learning from you. Great effort.
I have been following the great debaters for quite a long time but MFA has won me out, how i wish Uganda can compete with u too guys, more love from Uganda
The responses in both teams are owesome, just few penalties have been considered to choose the best. I love all that participated, it's more encouraging. God bless you all.🤝🤝🤝
The teacher gets us inspired and motivate us by doing a self disclosure. No computer could motivate or inspired one by a self disclosure which also helps
Am I the only one who thinks that the second girl admitted to support the opponent side? She claimed that they should put in place computers in place alongside with the Instructors. It’s then clear that computers shouldn’t completely replace teachers.
As a computer(software) professional, I can tell you guys some things, There can never be computers/software without humans, Both in the developing side of the story and the consuming side of the story, A software will require a teacher to teach it how to teach before it can teach, Computers are the dumbest things that we humans view as smart,(ask a software developer), The smartness that you perceive a computer to have is just the expression of another human being, Software development is like bringing a novel to life, A book that was just a useless bunch of pages without content suddenly becomes home to ton of knowledge, So when you talk about replacement, please leave those idea in the movies guys, a computer is just a livelier version of a book, In the law that governs software, Developers are treated like artists or writers that write intellectual property. Remove software from a computer and what is left is just a piece of metal, All the games, music, movies, books, websites, social media, and even accessories like cameras they need a human / humans to exist, to continue existing and to make sense in life. Imagine a facebook with just Zuckerberg on it, Imagine a youtube with no publishers, imagine a computer with no user, imagine your computer with no software, Computers are just another form of communication between humans and that is it
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The debate is more awsome... congratulations, But at the beginning i was getting bored base on the first speaker. Moi force academic I just wanna say your performance is very much interesting each and every word you speak make 💯🔥 a sense 💪 and power on what you going through on my side computer can replace teacher but on partial......I learnt much thing from you guys 😘🤩
Watching direct from Tanzania I would like to congratulate main speakers of both sides for their good flow of ideas and fluency they have I wish to emphasize my leaners to make practices of speaking English language daily!!!
They are soo Eloquent. Much better than some in our main debating house. Issue of ATTITUDE...Don't ignore it. These girls could be pouring their hearts out.
I have enjoyed the debate but one mistake which the judges didn't point out. In a debate you have to stick on one side, the boys said that computers and teachers should be combined which was said repeatedly. So the girls should have won. Both parties though were good.
I totally agree the motion was skewed in favour of the opposers, who had it too easy, actually for them the win was without a sweat , handed on a platter! The motion should have been either or and not an amalgamation. So the motion middle ground as opposed to absolutes, renders it null and void, and if anything the proposers uphill task makes them better debaters.
Very great debaters. I sharpen my mind by listening to your powerful words and everyday i listen to you i learn something new. If you enjoy the same show a like👍 on this comment
Wow am touch with your words
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Very great debater
the eloquence from Kenya high is something on another level,great debaters Indeed
The first girl and the first boy in are literally fire🥳🥳🥳
You can't admire a computer 🖥 because you can't be a computer 🖥 in future 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥😂😂😂😂🔥 I liked the guy
You can admire chatgpt😅😅😅😅
Moi Forceses killed it the third guy killed it I like him,,,, keep it up👏👏👏
The motion was skewed to the favour opposers. It was Computer replacing teachers, so the argument by Moi Forces combining teachers and computers wasn't part of the motion and tha facilitators ignored this. The boys cleverly took this advantage and sounded more logical without the examiners/facilitators even redirecting the debate to original motion!
The proposers therefore had a tough task to sell the an unsellable.
The opposers had it easy and logically by combining teachers with computers.
So, the skewed motion handed opposers a win too easily.
I therefore opine that proposers never lost the debate but the Composers of the motion gave advantage to opposers.
I propose a tie if not a win for proposers for trying to sell a hard to sell commodity.
I second
Addition...we can't afford computers all ...the problem with kenyans is that they want to live other people's life
True
I agree
Not true. The proposers had to prove computers should replace teachers but the opposers could go any path that is contrary to that. Saying teachers cannot be replaced can be done in two ways
1. Teachers should replace computers or
2. Teachers can work together with computers
If we go by your logic, even the proposers were off-topic by saying instructors can be used to explain or guide learners on computers. Well, I think the proposers could win if they tried harder by using some points:
1. Computers can allow long-distance learning (learners can learn from anywhere, anytime)
2. Computers can allow learners to learn at their own pace(as opposed to teachers when teachers can get tired of explaining the same thing)
3. Computers can record lessons to be used for future reference (that is, one can use the same notes without writing or memorizing as it can be saved)
4. Computers do not have physical limitations like tribal accents, stammering, poor grammar, lateness, attitude
5. Computers are less costly that is you only need to buy computers; the cost of maintenance per computer is lower than the cost per teacher(in terms of salary and facilitations like chalks, offices, pens, whiteboards)
The key is to demonstrate that teachers are not needed entirely at any stage of learning. Once you accept they are needed at any point, you lose the debate so go strong into the debate
Rebuttal points
1. An integrated system will fail. For example, Julius Yego became a champion without a coach, after he started using a coach, his performance dropped. Using teachers with computers is not needed. Programmers (not teachers) can set the curriculum in the computer and any needed changes can be modified using the same programmers. A teacher will just be paid for nothing as a learner can pause, repeat or even seek more material from the same computer
2. Firing 250,000 teachers is a good thing, not bad. We need a value addition economy, not a redundant one just to please people yet no value is added. For example, we are paying 250,000 teachers so many millions yet we could invest in one laptop per learner and incur no cost at all for the next 18 years that learner would be in school. What will happen to the teachers you ask? The same thing that happened to laborers when combined harvester, lawnmower, vacuum cleaner, dishwasher, blender and other machines were introduced. If you had a blender that could blend 50 mangoes in less than 1 hour and the only cost you would incur is about 20 shillings in terms of electricity cost, would you instead go employing 3 workers who would manually pound the 50 mangoes into paste in more than the required time and yet you would pay them more?
3. Emphasize you want to do away with the teachers. Give an example where fast learners are inconvenienced by teachers. Some learners can learn the entire syllabus in 1 term yet teachers are dragging them behind for a whole year. These learners could provide more value like research into other fields using the help of computers that can give them knowledge the teacher does not know. For example a form four learner who is done with the syllabus may want to learn about space travel yet his four four teacher knows little about it. The computer has everything in store for the learner. We do not need teachers, in fact, they are a burden. Slow learners are also inconvenienced. This is because they may need more time per lesson as opposed to the usual time allocated. A computer can give that more time as a learner can study the course in bits and pause to his satisfaction
4. Computers have a personal appeal. Lessons can be made fun using videos, voice notes, drawings and other tools. In fact, a computer can produce 100s of images and videos to explain a point in just one lesson. Can a teacher do that? Additionally, if a student does not like a certain video on one lesson, he can skip and go to the next. Can he ask a teacher to stop using a certain teaching method? Of course not. So the argument of personal appeal is trashed
5. Issue of role models. If a teacher is your role model, then a computer can produce 1000s of role models. You learn about great physicists and other notable pioneers in the field using a computer. If role models is your inspiration, then why stop at one teacher and computer can show you millions of role models? Plus, what happens if you do not like your teacher, will you fail in your studies? A computer solves that by simply showing you another model. But try asking your school to change your teacher, see how that goes!
NB: I think teachers are amazing and good role models but for the sake of debate, if you want to win, go strong and take no prisoners
All the three speakers are marvelous but Rodney style was brilliant he owns the stage and catches the attention of audience.Awesome!!!!!
The first boy is so smart especially when he mentions a couple of references.
Kenya education is better 💕💕💕am from Tanzania
Sure
You're right dude
Very educational learning and teaching in English oral as a secondary language. More, 'excellent education policy to you Govt to enforce education as tool to conquer the world. I wish my govrt do the same for our education.
Love the debate from bothe sides and continue learning from you. Great effort.
Rodney and Esperancia 🤝☺️ wow!that was great guys.😊👍
Nice one guys
😂😂😂she is good but we can now confirm how many jobs has she created
The first boy frm moi forces is just the definition of intelligent
yea for sure he is more contented
Exactly
True
Facts
Intelligence not intelligent
I learnt so much,God this is great. I admired Moi Forces. U killed it!👍👍
The boy who responded to the quiz is super smart.
I FEEL GOOD WHEN OUR GIRLS SPEEK, CONFINDEEEEEEEEEEEEEENTLY
With less content though.
But they tried
They failed to provide enough content to support the motion 😢
now I know why Kenya is in politics mood 24-365-5. great Kenyans out there! some of them are needed at the Supreme and Appeals court!!!
I have been following the great debaters for quite a long time but MFA has won me out, how i wish Uganda can compete with u too guys, more love from Uganda
😍
These videos should be going viral in Kenya 🇰🇪
wow i appreciate all the schools representation cause they're inspiring us indeed on how to debate, 💪💪MOI force high school
I used to listen this debates during my high school and now it now becomed a second nature
Rodney, i just love the way you put forward you ideas,awesome...you really lighted up we the audience...
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The responses in both teams are owesome, just few penalties have been considered to choose the best. I love all that participated, it's more encouraging. God bless you all.🤝🤝🤝
These speakers are what we need in this nation. I wonder where they really go after schools.
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😆😆😆😆
Under ground
Unfortunately wanaenda KU kulearn reproduction😂
😁😁😁😁😁
Both the two teams it was powerful keep up mmmwwwah
The relaxed way of speaking in both debaters is worth watching. This can be used as a resource clip
The first lady the first speaker is beauty plus brain! Very very brilliant I love what I saw!
@ Rodney wesonga, you are a great thinker, brilliant, awsome, I love your science of facts. Bravoooo
Congratulations to moi force academy keep it up guys, especially Rodney
this was great,, the teams were excellent
That first girl!!🥰 She's powerful upstairs
No she is Esperancia Kapanga
She will be a lecturer not even a teacher 😅 , she is breathing 🔥🔥🔥
O brigado
Sai ako 1824 na shisha6
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The teacher gets us inspired and motivate us by doing a self disclosure. No computer could motivate or inspired one by a self disclosure which also helps
Wesonga has a point ...
this debate has more interesting and I have learnt so many things,may God blessyou thanks
i love the confidence of the third girl from kenya high .. 💝💝 lots of love dear
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Yes I appreciate the debate it is fantastic and very very educated keep it up guys
I can say njoroge is creative and smart keep it up😉
The first and the third speaker of moi forces are really intelligent and energising
Great debate watching you from Tanzania.
Am I the only one who thinks that the second girl admitted to support the opponent side? She claimed that they should put in place computers in place alongside with the Instructors. It’s then clear that computers shouldn’t completely replace teachers.
in live with Kenya high for their brilliant ideas
well great competition!!!!! I love it
Wowww!!! I just love the presentation
Both counter part motion very so amazing congratulations 👏
It is the first boy Njoronge's presentation for me... He was wow!!!! Mpaka data wasichana opponents wamemkufia karibu waanze kum-support
😅👌
I love the Girls wooow👌
Kapanga is an awesome debator and my prayer is to see her soon in the Parliament of the republic of Kenya.
The third speaker from moi forces is excellent I admire him 👏
Me too
Great people Kenya.
Respect from Ethiopian
I jxt review these debate every time and day because of wesonga.... Very interigent boy
I think those who support computers to replace Teachers faced it well esp.in covin 19 period .we missed da smile of Trs.much love to our Trs.
Trust me, all of them are just getting drunk all day in these city campuses😂😂😂😂
I can't trust you! You get drunk alone.
😅😅😅stop ur bang
😂😂😂
Tell them 😂🤣
Wanajidanganya
As a computer(software) professional,
I can tell you guys some things,
There can never be computers/software without humans,
Both in the developing side of the story and the consuming side of the story,
A software will require a teacher to teach it how to teach before it can teach,
Computers are the dumbest things that we humans view as smart,(ask a software developer),
The smartness that you perceive a computer to have is just the expression of another human being,
Software development is like bringing a novel to life, A book that was just a useless bunch of pages without content suddenly becomes home to ton of knowledge,
So when you talk about replacement, please leave those idea in the movies guys, a computer is just a livelier version of a book,
In the law that governs software, Developers are treated like artists or writers that write intellectual property.
Remove software from a computer and what is left is just a piece of metal,
All the games, music, movies, books, websites, social media, and even accessories like cameras they need a human / humans to exist, to continue existing and to make sense in life.
Imagine a facebook with just Zuckerberg on it, Imagine a youtube with no publishers, imagine a computer with no user, imagine your computer with no software,
Computers are just another form of communication between humans and that is it
👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾very well said
Very true.....think policy makers would have picked this from this debate
Yeah god is great!!!
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A great and open motion to agree and dispute from. The contestants were remarkable.
The first dude is much confident
The debate is awesome,,,,,,congratulations
Nice work, keep it up teams. Great work Moi Forces Academy, Keep it up all, you all done well
Who adds the learning content into the computer?
I am proud of my school..The Kenya High School. Forever a Bomerian
Wow
Wow
Me too 😊😊❤❤❤
Na vailye oou
Sameeeee🎉🎉🎉🎉....
Lots of love to The Kenya High School....❤
For real....teachers do a great job thus the computers should be used to assit their efficient since we are in a globalized world.
The debate is more awsome... congratulations, But at the beginning i was getting bored base on the first speaker. Moi force academic I just wanna say your performance is very much interesting each and every word you speak make 💯🔥 a sense 💪 and power on what you going through on my side computer can replace teacher but on partial......I learnt much thing from you guys 😘🤩
The 1st properser deserve everything
Brilliant. Speakers are awesome
Rodney and Esparancia are just powerful speakers
Watching from Rwanda, bravo to Rodney
Watching direct from Tanzania I would like to congratulate main speakers of both sides for their good flow of ideas and fluency they have I wish to emphasize my leaners to make practices of speaking English language daily!!!
it is absolutely marvelous
Thanks to the third debater from moi forces for his wonderful words
Yeah absolutely that was fantastic keep it up to the third debator from moi forces academy
Wow wonderful 😍❤️ debate
He really stretched his way of thinking maze
why do you have to admire a computer and you can never be a computer in future ...hahahahaha ...that was brilliant
I really like it nice
Great
Hahaha true
The last speaker from moi is dope should have being the first
Both schools were excellent 👌👌👌💜💜
I was touched by the first opposer. Just the way he brainstormed his ideas wow💯💯💯👍👍
She has an attitude but content is excellent
I would like to hear this debate now! Actually after e-learning exposure as results of COVID-19
E learning had both. We logged in, and a professor was on the other end.
we're here in 2080. I wonder what you guys needed a teacher when an autonomous computer does everything.
That first girl is dope
They are soo Eloquent. Much better than some in our main debating house.
Issue of ATTITUDE...Don't ignore it. These girls could be pouring their hearts out.
Why isn't everyone talking of the second boy from moi forces...keep going 🥳
Wooow moi forces especially wesonga u made it😍🤪clap 👏
I just love the debate I can’t believe I never new of such programs before
Wesonga yu are a brave man may God bless 🙏🙏congratulations to all who participated
I have enjoyed the debate but one mistake which the judges didn't point out. In a debate you have to stick on one side, the boys said that computers and teachers should be combined which was said repeatedly. So the girls should have won. Both parties though were good.
Exactly
I totally agree the motion was skewed in favour of the opposers, who had it too easy, actually for them the win was without a sweat , handed on a platter!
The motion should have been either or and not an amalgamation.
So the motion middle ground as opposed to absolutes, renders it null and void, and if anything the proposers uphill task makes them better debaters.
I really enjoyed the motion, big up to Moi Forces academy, Kenya High school too good trial
Great debate and debaters.full explainations for each grp, to support his/ her opinion. Kenya on the top.
Many club's to Kenya high school
Congarturation to you all .how can we enroll our self in
Wow! love the presentations from these awesome speakers🎉
Good evening honourables in the platform, I'm here to make a request. I'll be grateful if someone can provide the number of the first speaker.
Hello
I wish to join loreto high school but it's hard to find it I hope I'll be given the chance
Evet Atieno good luck
Did you make it
@@josephwachira2961 even me I want to know
Waaaa dat English yawa of the first debater Kenya high
WONDERFUL LITTLE BOY, YOU ARE A GREAT OR CHALLENGE INDEED ACCURATE I LOGIC AND REASON
The ladies did excellent Job. Well done Kenya High
Go go BOMA (The Kenya High School)! Go Samba, Halle and Esspy
PS:-Proud Alumnus
Esperancia............. the debator that is.
One little conciling is comptuer will not teach you by it's experience, it has got experience?
Wasonga you are just wow!!!!
Wow, wonderful, great debaters and inspiration
What you have said it is really
both the schools were excellent
Yeah your the only one that talked about the truth thanks 😊
My first time to see this Wewe the first girl have got a very strong point that Computers has no attitudes
The girls outshone the boys!
Very sharp in fact
Have you ever used the new Microsoft bing? . They can have altitude same as human
Me l just like your confidence that's great guys
A good training. Well done
The Kenya high fluency in speech is outstanding
The summerizer from the girls session
That was very powerful
Yh i also see the same
Good commets, excellent girl.
The ladies were just good … come on..!!!
More facts on the line .. facts ..!!!
The ladies nailed it they are super and the guys from moi they did well but they did but their research was from the computer's
Rodney wesonga wow #a junior genius