@@Lorutute_ no it's just being repeated and a majority of people that use it don't even know the meaning. They just say it because they know everybody else is.
@@ThePanameno507no he was dumb in dragon ball too. They only made him smart in DBZ. Its also more that hes always in the middle of a crisis too. DB and DBS are much more mellow as a whole.
I think he was high off becoming a super saiyan he trupy thought that was the ultimate goal as a saiyan warrior and he finally achieved it. I think turning super saiyan also amplifies the lust for battle well i know it does but i think it hit vegeta extr hard
Are people really think vegeta in cell saga is one of the good guys or something like sure he have a baby with bulma but it's really implied he didn't do that because he love bulma or something at least not then He completely didn't care for them + the ego of becoming ssj makes him want to prove the legendary statues of ssj Like how would you be a ssj and run from this supposed perfect being and with him literally not caring about his son or bulma he really doesn't have something to lose to be honest it's kinda the opposite because in his mind if he kills cell before he becomes perfect he loses his pride so yah he only stops this behavior after having some humanity but he definitely loses nothing in cell saga and death is ok for him
In DBZ 20:14 powerscaling that’s accurate…. Meanwhile DBS “teamwork will work on a much stronger opponent no matter how weak you are”. “Oh look a random character after alittle training is now on the level of gods”. “Oh you can catch everyone off guard now”… 🤦♂️
8:50 Krillin has always been one of my favorite characters. He been a witness to all the DBZ characters developments since dragonball and dragonball Z dragonball GT. He became even cooler when he fought majin buu Twice... Yeah Krillin Did That ! ! ! Krillin was there through it all (kid Goku, killed all the Saibamen, could of killed vegeta, almost killed nappa, Saved piccolo, Cut Frieza's tail off and almost killed him. he was the cause of goku 1st super sayian transformation, SS2 gohan saved krillin, krillin told gohan which pissed gohan off even more. (don't worry about me gohan, just do whatcha gotta do) you should of seen gohan face. Krillin is badass for real, EVERY MARTIAL ARTS TOURNAMENT, KRILLIN ENTER, EVEN THOUGH HIS FRIENDS WERE MORE POWERFUL THAN HIM ! ! !... THE LIST GOES ON..... DRAGONBALL SUPER LMAO) KRILLIN..... PUSH GOKU SUPER SAYIAN BLUE KAMEHAME BACK TOWARDS HIM, OUTSMARTED GOKU USING DESTRUCTO-DISC. 100X SOLAR FLARE... YOU CANT EVEN CLOSE YOUR EYES TO BLOCK THE MOVE.... YOU NAME KRILLIN IS THE GOAT LMAO.... FYI ( GOKU STOLE INSTANT KAMEHAMEHA) FROM KRILLIN LOL LOL LOL... GO BACK AND WATCH (KRILLIN VS CHOITSU) Goku was like Damn thats Fire.... Come to think of it, Goku Stole most of his friends techniques.. goku is a better version of cell lol
exactly. Thats 100x before reaching namek. Goku probably got 1000x faster just on namek by the time he reached supersayan. Frieza was kind of still stronger than goku maybe by 2-3%. Trunks whooped friezas as easily and finds 10x gravity a problem wtf. little kid trunks can turn supersayan and runs around 150x like normal.
Vegeta is arrogant and prideful! Ego and his own self worth are all that mattered to him. He couldn’t care less about being a hero or saving the earth. He lives solely being the strongest and his pride.
They should make a new timeline in the dbz universe where cell is perfect cell before he meets super vegeta.. it would be hella funny to see vegeta go through all that training, all that cockiness, and the sass too lol and watch vegeta do all that powering up when he confronts cell. Only for him to later be cooked by perfect cell for no reason. Meaninf all that training was for nothing.😂
i was so mad when vegeta did that, but that goes to show you that arrogant people learn by the lessons of life. He got humbled after cell whipped him like a doll. hahah
To be fair, a lot of the characters acted dumb in this specific saga just to satisfy the story. Krillin = destroys remote, 17 and 18 = did not listen to Tien and 16 and Piccolo and are promptly absorbed, Vegeta well, Vegeta was being Vegeta. Trunks = useless training. Loses all logic during the first fight with P. Cell. Goku = I want to give you all a chance to fight.
Cell is a mirror for the dark side of the characters he was made of. Inperfect cell lived in the shadow getting power by cruel acts and dirty tricks just like king piccolo. The "how many people" line is piccolo confronting a being the was just like him on the past. Semi-perfect cell is just like vegeta in the hands of freeza, chasing a myth of being the super-saiyan if only he could transform. Perfect cell is just like goku waiting for he enemys to get stronger only so he can feel the trill of a good fight no matter the cost. When cell was put back in to a conner he just act like freeza by tring to kill everyone on the spot. Nobody was seeing the damage of they own choices and focus only on belives insteed of just doing the thing that would change the future they was well aware of.
@murdoqonline9270 Except you would think fighting a God who was hell bent on destroying your planet would do it (Beerus). Instead of that, we become friends with them and goof off during the final fight despite their insane amount of selfishness when it comes to destroying planets. Despite ONLY sparing worlds for selfish reasons like food, we never condemn their actions and join them. Or how about the time an old friend who helped save your world and his came back in his darkest hour? The world he fought to save so hard gets destroyed by an evil version of yourself (Goku Black). Do you do everything you can to save it? No. You turn super saiyan at the most and allow the psycho to roam free unnecessarily, letting him destroy the time machine and getting away. Then you play with him on 3 separate visits instead of killing him outright. Or how about a literal multiversal Armageddon tournament where your survival and everyone you know and love is put on the line? Do you take it seriously THIS TIME?! No. You goof off along with everyone else, never making ANY thoughtful decisions as to how you can most efficiently assure your own continued existence. Super likes to PRETEND it has serious themes, but that doesn't mean its situations aren't serious. If anything it's MORE off-putting how unserious everyone is because the stakes are even HIGHER than z. They just suck at it
Vegeta and Krillin were the biggest idiots throughout this whole entire saga. They’re single handledly responsible for Goku dying indirectly and Trunks dying as well.
I never did like this part of the Cell Arc, it felt like a complete character assassination of both Vegeta and Trunks. We saw the no nonsense attitude of Trunks to start the arc when killing Frieza and King Cold. Where was that Trunks the minute Vegeta let Cell go? But also, compare the way Vegeta fought on Namek to here. He was cold, ruthless, and cunning. Creating diversions to steal the Dragon Balls from Freiza, then going underwater to sneak away from both Freiza and Zarbon. And, he was somewhat like Trunks there with the no nonsense attitude when he finished off both Recomme and Burter when Goku was foolishly trying to deal out the Mercy Card to them. Where was that Vegeta here against Cell?
Where is this video from? Its super crisp. I have the bluray seasons and they arent this clear. Maybe its the larger tv vs my phone showing imperfections.
yeah my fav scenes, lets abandon your child for years then meet him for a while and spend some time with him and voila you are good father now xD the logic of some people is hilarious
Idk why anyone believes Vegeta is an intelligent fighter. He's actually the mostly idiotic character. He actually gives his enemies the advantage and then finds a way to blame Goku, for cleaning up his mess. This was one of the few times he could've earned bragging rights, for killing Cell. I mean he still would've been weaker than Goku and Gohan, because they were training during this fight and would have eventually came out of the chamber, with new powers, far superior to his own. But at least he would be able to say he beat Cell. Vegata's logic is like beefing with a person and both sides have made it clear, that the next time they see eachother, someone is taking a dirt nap. Vegeta catches his opps slippin and then tosses them the gun. Then after he takes his L, he finds a way to blame Goku. Trunks is my favorite saiyan. If he were more battle savvy, he'd be more dangerous.
Either watch the sub, kai or read the manga. Vegeta is one the most intelligent. it’s even stated by other characters within the franchise. When you read or watch the other versions you’ll see the accurate depiction of him. You’ll see how he constantly and consistently uses his intelligence and his strategic and tactical knowledge
@@noahvizzian bruh after all the facts you've read in my comment, you still choose denial. Idc what none of those characters say. Vegeta is an idiot. An intelligent person is not going to continue giving an enemy the upper hand. You can't defend that, so stop trying. Of course this must be in their blood, because Goku and Gohan are no saints as well. Finishing the job is the only thing to be respected. Few examples, Trunks vs 17&18. Once he had the power, he put them down. Trunks when he fought Cell. He destroyed him asap. Heck, even when Goku fought Cell, he was all in. That instant transmission Kamehameha wave, was meant to end the deal. It only failed because Goku was trying to keep from blowing up the planet, in the process. Had they'd been up in the air, The Cell Saga would've been short. Need more proof? When Vegeta stepped in to fight Golden Frieza, what was the outcome? He knew Frieza was worn down from fighting Goku and still played around, leaving an opening to lose. Had Whis not turned back time, your guy and the earth would be with King Yemma. 🤷🏿♂️🤣
@@DOLLAMAC190 once again, reread or rewatch the series. Dbz abridged and dub clips on UA-cam don’t vindicate the authenticity of these characters. If we are going on your logic, Gohan is also an idiot because when he was ssj2 (the most powerful in the universe) instead of killing cell he allows cell to get desperate and blow himself up. same thing Vegeta did. To your points again… goku himself would be an idiot, because he also allowed frieza to transform into his full power instead of killing him then and there. There’s the aspect of sayian biology at play that effects all the sayain characters with the exception of trunks. But Trunks also proved his naivety and ignorance many times. Prime example was when he fought cell. Cell had to explain to him basic fighting knowledge. powering up doesn’t make you more powerful only just stronger and he was losing speed. To which both trunks and cell admit Vegeta knew about that faulty transformation and didn’t use it (showing vegeta’s knowledge again). Here’s another thing, both tien and piccolo agreed with goku and Vegeta going against Bulmas plan to just prevent the Androids of being activated. But they wanted to fight the androids and test their strength same thing as Vegeta and goku. Are tien and piccolo idiots too? your points aren’t valid because they apply to all sayain and some non Saiyain characters not just Vegeta. Now Vegeta being a dick because of his ego, that’s a different story which doesn’t have to do with his intelligence. watch the series from start to finish and you will see.
@@noahvizzian once again, you didn't read it if your telling me Gohan must be and idiot like I didn't already point that out. I said Goku and Gohan weren't saints either. They've had their share of fuck ups. I'm not going back and forth with an Vegeta apologist. There is absolutely nothing you do to excuse his stupidity. I've watched dbz all the way from it's db days. I have the complete series on box set. I've read a few of the comics. No one in their right mind would agree with your assessment, unless they're just there to argue. Like I said. I'm not going back and forth with you. Get off of it already. 🤣
In the grand sheme people wanna blame krillim too but they never listen to Piccolo first and vegeta got his sun killed cause he didnt want to listen either, trunks say this happen and hes too arrogant to understand the truth of his life literally repeating itself but this time its all Vegeta's fault.
Vegeta must of been more satisfied Knowing how Cell reach his perfect form since 18 broke his arm when they Fought I know it was because he wanted to if cell would get stronger but Basically got revenge without that being the intention gave a Fu to her
Vegeta letting cell become perfect is entirely in his character at this point Vegetas main goal was not saving the earth (although part of him did care for his family) it was proving he is the most superior warrior that has ever lived killing cell while he was weak would be the act of a coward from his point of view vegeta is not a hero yet he wants to be number 1 he can only do that by beating cell at his best even if it did not work out the way he expected lol goku throwing the senzu bean though I am still trying to figure out.
There is a difference. In Frieza's saga Vegeta killed off his enemies quickly because his goal was having the dragon balls and he knew Freeza was far superior, so he couldnt be playing around. Here he doesnt have a specific goal, other than show he's the strongest
@@AdrianoAndrade-zn5iy i'll add 1 detail: in Freeza saga he knew he is far too weak to win against Freeza, here he see the so called monster Cell is below him
@@ordenax yea but the same traits he had in frieza saga when he finishing off people no mercy is same he should have here this is actully not of his traits even piccolo and tien just said its not like him to not kill off rip so yea you full of it get on
Exactly why I would never watch DB super. The character development is so intense in Z. Like you see how Vegeta has grown and changed and Goku has made an impression on everyone
English dub Goku knows about gravity and air density, but doesn't know what a kiss is in DB Super lol. Does Goku say anything about air density and gravity in the time chamber in DBZ manga? (And in Japanese)
Future trunks made Vegeta a better and more involved father with kid trunks thats why hes more competitive arrogant an full of himself like his father than future trunks
Trunks was already a super saiyan when he gets here but some how goku and gohan surpass him doing the same training he did 😆😆🤣 From the future for nothing
I think it's because Goku & Gohan actually trained together the whole time in the time chamber. Vegeta pretty much ignored trunks most of the time. I think it was stated by somebody (idk if it was DBZ or DBS) that training with another person raises your power faster than training by yourself
The Cell Saga was peak DBZ. I remember getting off the bus from school and immediately running to the TV. Good times.
NOTHING BETTER. 2000-2005
Bro using the word "peak" like it's a popular word or sum. Don't be a parrot. Get your own mentality.
@@DamonLamont-c7rits not that deep, calm down.
@@DamonLamont-c7rdid the peak ever hurt your family is that why you hate the word peak
@@Lorutute_ no it's just being repeated and a majority of people that use it don't even know the meaning. They just say it because they know everybody else is.
16 was the only dude who had reasonable decisions in this arc.
Bro was jus tryna kill goku and love birds 😂
@@acxito "Acquiring birds!" 🤣
Piccolo too
@@LilCurt1993 oh yeah. And Tien.
You mean Trunks?
Damn… this Goku is so smart compared to Super.
Cause they make him dumb in super
@@ThePanameno507no he was dumb in dragon ball too. They only made him smart in DBZ. Its also more that hes always in the middle of a crisis too. DB and DBS are much more mellow as a whole.
They had Vegeta be the absolute clown shoes role for DBZ. Guy filled his bag just so he could fumble it every single saga.
American Goku, Japanese goku has always been the same
@@Sniper_T_2x You´re totally wrong lol
How’s no one talking about the random switch to trunks randomly getting set on fire. Made me hella laugh😂
No one is speaking about how cell dried himself off like Dog getting out the water
Some times i can't understand why Vegeta failed to realize this wasn't about his pride as a Saiyan Prince
I think he was high off becoming a super saiyan he trupy thought that was the ultimate goal as a saiyan warrior and he finally achieved it. I think turning super saiyan also amplifies the lust for battle well i know it does but i think it hit vegeta extr hard
Yeah what bro said. He had no retrospect of earthly concepts like nobility or humility
Sayian King.
Are people really think vegeta in cell saga is one of the good guys or something like sure he have a baby with bulma but it's really implied he didn't do that because he love bulma or something at least not then
He completely didn't care for them + the ego of becoming ssj makes him want to prove the legendary statues of ssj
Like how would you be a ssj and run from this supposed perfect being and with him literally not caring about his son or bulma he really doesn't have something to lose to be honest it's kinda the opposite because in his mind if he kills cell before he becomes perfect he loses his pride so yah he only stops this behavior after having some humanity but he definitely loses nothing in cell saga and death is ok for him
@@saadsami8860 true he didn’t realize he loved his family till cell popped trunks
sorry cell kicking krillins head like a soccer ball had me in stitches
In DBZ 20:14 powerscaling that’s accurate…. Meanwhile DBS “teamwork will work on a much stronger opponent no matter how weak you are”. “Oh look a random character after alittle training is now on the level of gods”. “Oh you can catch everyone off guard now”… 🤦♂️
4:27 he attacked jiren like that😮😮
I always loved how mad Piccolo was at Vegeta. Like “I know he bout to f*CK this up!”
"Trunks , sensu beans only heal phisical damage , only therapy will aid emotional trauma" - TFS Android 16
Vegeta never learns his lesson lol
8:50 Krillin has always been one of my favorite characters. He been a witness to all the DBZ characters developments since dragonball and dragonball Z dragonball GT. He became even cooler when he fought majin buu Twice... Yeah Krillin Did That ! ! ! Krillin was there through it all (kid Goku, killed all the Saibamen, could of killed vegeta, almost killed nappa, Saved piccolo, Cut Frieza's tail off and almost killed him. he was the cause of goku 1st super sayian transformation, SS2 gohan saved krillin, krillin told gohan which pissed gohan off even more. (don't worry about me gohan, just do whatcha gotta do) you should of seen gohan face. Krillin is badass for real, EVERY MARTIAL ARTS TOURNAMENT, KRILLIN ENTER, EVEN THOUGH HIS FRIENDS WERE MORE POWERFUL THAN HIM ! ! !... THE LIST GOES ON..... DRAGONBALL SUPER LMAO) KRILLIN..... PUSH GOKU SUPER SAYIAN BLUE KAMEHAME BACK TOWARDS HIM, OUTSMARTED GOKU USING DESTRUCTO-DISC. 100X SOLAR FLARE... YOU CANT EVEN CLOSE YOUR EYES TO BLOCK THE MOVE.... YOU NAME KRILLIN IS THE GOAT LMAO.... FYI ( GOKU STOLE INSTANT KAMEHAMEHA) FROM KRILLIN LOL LOL LOL... GO BACK AND WATCH (KRILLIN VS CHOITSU) Goku was like Damn thats Fire.... Come to think of it, Goku Stole most of his friends techniques.. goku is a better version of cell lol
didnt he just fail to disable Android 18 und so causing the 3rd Cell transformation?
Krillin wanting Android cheeks resulted in Goku dying smh 😂😂😂.
And people say goku is a bad father
both barely existed in the life of their children
Why is 10 times gravity a problem for a Super Saiyan when Goku trained at 100 times gravity without being Super Saiyan?
exactly. Thats 100x before reaching namek. Goku probably got 1000x faster just on namek by the time he reached supersayan. Frieza was kind of still stronger than goku maybe by 2-3%. Trunks whooped friezas as easily and finds 10x gravity a problem wtf. little kid trunks can turn supersayan and runs around 150x like normal.
Goku did but Gohan hasn’t trained under any gravity other than earth’s gravity.
@@BenL-k2y Yeah, I guess power levels have been fudged up before Drafon Ball Super.
Because Goku and Vegeta had already done gravity training extensively, it was new to Trunks so it took him time to adapt.
If you’re referring to Gohan, not only is he a kid, but he hasn’t trained under any other gravity other than earths.
I know he could of been the hero this was his chance they just could give vegeta one big victory
No. Vegeta just couldn't give himself one big victory. His ego put him under multiple times.🤣
Yeah but imagine if Vegeta killed semi-perfect cell right here, we'd never get Ssj2 Gohan
That time Beerus and co. were just chilling as Cell ravaged Earth 😅
1:36 the way c16 talks kinda reminds me of Donald Trump
"Yes thats right childreen, have your fun."😭
A line straight out of TFS
Vegeta is arrogant and prideful! Ego and his own self worth are all that mattered to him. He couldn’t care less about being a hero or saving the earth. He lives solely being the strongest and his pride.
They should make a new timeline in the dbz universe where cell is perfect cell before he meets super vegeta.. it would be hella funny to see vegeta go through all that training, all that cockiness, and the sass too lol and watch vegeta do all that powering up when he confronts cell. Only for him to later be cooked by perfect cell for no reason. Meaninf all that training was for nothing.😂
Can we appreciate bro dropped a solid dbz video we all needed 🔥
Vegeta said
look what I can do lmao
i was so mad when vegeta did that, but that goes to show you that arrogant people learn by the lessons of life. He got humbled after cell whipped him like a doll. hahah
"cell wins, we lose" thanks tips 😂
"I find it hard to believe that my cells are in your body how could you have turned out so ugly" 👑
Android 18 and krillen are one of the dumbest characters I’ve ever know
To be fair, a lot of the characters acted dumb in this specific saga just to satisfy the story. Krillin = destroys remote, 17 and 18 = did not listen to Tien and 16 and Piccolo and are promptly absorbed, Vegeta well, Vegeta was being Vegeta. Trunks = useless training. Loses all logic during the first fight with P. Cell. Goku = I want to give you all a chance to fight.
@@SteelRims 🎯
I mean… Would you run away if you saw a fight like this? 😂
But he won two gold medal
That's actually 2 characters 😂
Cell is a mirror for the dark side of the characters he was made of. Inperfect cell lived in the shadow getting power by cruel acts and dirty tricks just like king piccolo. The "how many people" line is piccolo confronting a being the was just like him on the past. Semi-perfect cell is just like vegeta in the hands of freeza, chasing a myth of being the super-saiyan if only he could transform. Perfect cell is just like goku waiting for he enemys to get stronger only so he can feel the trill of a good fight no matter the cost. When cell was put back in to a conner he just act like freeza by tring to kill everyone on the spot.
Nobody was seeing the damage of they own choices and focus only on belives insteed of just doing the thing that would change the future they was well aware of.
Vegata ego by far the most bull shit of bull shit got killed by friza and android and perfect cell just whoop his ass left and right
Dragon Ball Z = For Men
Dragon Ball Super = For Boys and Gays (whis).
No one is even freaking serious in Dragon Ball Super.
Dragon ball super ain't dark like dbz.
@murdoqonline9270 Except you would think fighting a God who was hell bent on destroying your planet would do it (Beerus). Instead of that, we become friends with them and goof off during the final fight despite their insane amount of selfishness when it comes to destroying planets. Despite ONLY sparing worlds for selfish reasons like food, we never condemn their actions and join them.
Or how about the time an old friend who helped save your world and his came back in his darkest hour? The world he fought to save so hard gets destroyed by an evil version of yourself (Goku Black). Do you do everything you can to save it? No. You turn super saiyan at the most and allow the psycho to roam free unnecessarily, letting him destroy the time machine and getting away. Then you play with him on 3 separate visits instead of killing him outright.
Or how about a literal multiversal Armageddon tournament where your survival and everyone you know and love is put on the line? Do you take it seriously THIS TIME?! No. You goof off along with everyone else, never making ANY thoughtful decisions as to how you can most efficiently assure your own continued existence.
Super likes to PRETEND it has serious themes, but that doesn't mean its situations aren't serious. If anything it's MORE off-putting how unserious everyone is because the stakes are even HIGHER than z. They just suck at it
@@murdoqonline9270 Goku Black arc just doesn't exist ig
Vegeta and Krillin were the biggest idiots throughout this whole entire saga. They’re single handledly responsible for Goku dying indirectly and Trunks dying as well.
Ima give Vegeta and killin equal blame
Then they blame Goku for giving Gohan a senzu bean… 🤣look at how foolish Vegeta is. Vegeta could have finished him 10x over.
I never did like this part of the Cell Arc, it felt like a complete character assassination of both Vegeta and Trunks. We saw the no nonsense attitude of Trunks to start the arc when killing Frieza and King Cold. Where was that Trunks the minute Vegeta let Cell go? But also, compare the way Vegeta fought on Namek to here. He was cold, ruthless, and cunning. Creating diversions to steal the Dragon Balls from Freiza, then going underwater to sneak away from both Freiza and Zarbon. And, he was somewhat like Trunks there with the no nonsense attitude when he finished off both Recomme and Burter when Goku was foolishly trying to deal out the Mercy Card to them. Where was that Vegeta here against Cell?
Vegeta played right into cells hands
Opposite
Where is this video from? Its super crisp. I have the bluray seasons and they arent this clear. Maybe its the larger tv vs my phone showing imperfections.
Piccolo- "If cell wins we lose" no shit piccolo
Well Vegeta, you weren’t stronger than your ancestors 😂 nor smarter than them 😭
The bath scence melted my heart, Goku was such a good father to gohan
The hell he was 😂 abandoned him and left him for dead multiple times lol
@dmag1234 ur dumb
yeah my fav scenes, lets abandon your child for years then meet him for a while and spend some time with him and voila you are good father now xD
the logic of some people is hilarious
Idk why anyone believes Vegeta is an intelligent fighter. He's actually the mostly idiotic character. He actually gives his enemies the advantage and then finds a way to blame Goku, for cleaning up his mess.
This was one of the few times he could've earned bragging rights, for killing Cell.
I mean he still would've been weaker than Goku and Gohan, because they were training during this fight and would have eventually came out of the chamber, with new powers, far superior to his own. But at least he would be able to say he beat Cell.
Vegata's logic is like beefing with a person and both sides have made it clear, that the next time they see eachother, someone is taking a dirt nap. Vegeta catches his opps slippin and then tosses them the gun. Then after he takes his L, he finds a way to blame Goku. Trunks is my favorite saiyan. If he were more battle savvy, he'd be more dangerous.
Either watch the sub, kai or read the manga. Vegeta is one the most intelligent. it’s even stated by other characters within the franchise. When you read or watch the other versions you’ll see the accurate depiction of him. You’ll see how he constantly and consistently uses his intelligence and his strategic and tactical knowledge
@@noahvizzian bruh after all the facts you've read in my comment, you still choose denial. Idc what none of those characters say. Vegeta is an idiot. An intelligent person is not going to continue giving an enemy the upper hand. You can't defend that, so stop trying. Of course this must be in their blood, because Goku and Gohan are no saints as well. Finishing the job is the only thing to be respected. Few examples, Trunks vs 17&18. Once he had the power, he put them down. Trunks when he fought Cell. He destroyed him asap. Heck, even when Goku fought Cell, he was all in. That instant transmission Kamehameha wave, was meant to end the deal. It only failed because Goku was trying to keep from blowing up the planet, in the process. Had they'd been up in the air, The Cell Saga would've been short. Need more proof? When Vegeta stepped in to fight Golden Frieza, what was the outcome? He knew Frieza was worn down from fighting Goku and still played around, leaving an opening to lose. Had Whis not turned back time, your guy and the earth would be with King Yemma. 🤷🏿♂️🤣
@@DOLLAMAC190 once again, reread or rewatch the series.
Dbz abridged and dub clips on UA-cam don’t vindicate the authenticity of these characters.
If we are going on your logic, Gohan is also an idiot because when he was ssj2 (the most powerful in the universe) instead of killing cell he allows cell to get desperate and blow himself up. same thing Vegeta did. To your points again… goku himself would be an idiot, because he also allowed frieza to transform into his full power instead of killing him then and there.
There’s the aspect of sayian biology at play that effects all the sayain characters with the exception of trunks.
But Trunks also proved his naivety and ignorance many times.
Prime example was when he fought cell. Cell had to explain to him basic fighting knowledge. powering up doesn’t make you more powerful only just stronger and he was losing speed.
To which both trunks and cell admit Vegeta knew about that faulty transformation and didn’t use it (showing vegeta’s knowledge again).
Here’s another thing, both tien and piccolo agreed with goku and Vegeta going against Bulmas plan to just prevent the Androids of being activated. But they wanted to fight the androids and test their strength same thing as Vegeta and goku.
Are tien and piccolo idiots too?
your points aren’t valid because they apply to all sayain and some non Saiyain characters not just Vegeta. Now Vegeta being a dick because of his ego, that’s a different story which doesn’t have to do with his intelligence.
watch the series from start to finish and you will see.
Shut up, Goku did the same thing bitch so shut up... They both ARE Dumb when it comes to picking a fight with someone
@@noahvizzian once again, you didn't read it if your telling me Gohan must be and idiot like I didn't already point that out. I said Goku and Gohan weren't saints either. They've had their share of fuck ups. I'm not going back and forth with an Vegeta apologist. There is absolutely nothing you do to excuse his stupidity. I've watched dbz all the way from it's db days. I have the complete series on box set. I've read a few of the comics. No one in their right mind would agree with your assessment, unless they're just there to argue. Like I said. I'm not going back and forth with you. Get off of it already. 🤣
Android 18 was so stupid. Should’ve escaped while Vegeta and Cell was fighting
Bulma baby daddy is the same thing as goku and she still calls on goku everytime 😂😂😂 can’t tell me goku ain’t smack them cheeks once
lol goku is like her little brother
Ngl, when Vegeta let Cell transform, I completely lost my shit cause I was like why would my favourite character betray earth like this😭😂
Betrayal implies he had any loyalty to earth to begin with
Vegeta and Krillin were two grade A, first rate dummies.
Can’t believe he skipped cell across the water like a rock
Krillin asked, can a man fall in love with an Android?
I sure hope not
Goku even gave cell a senzu bean. Thats even worse and gohan ss2 didn't kill cell too. It lead to the death of his father
Vegeta should stop playing with his enemies and finish them off
True words.
True words.
The biggest choke of all time in history smh
Vegeta played fuck around and find out with cell
and yet Vegeta always talks about Goku always being too friendly towards his enemies 😒
This whole saga was was in way. It was awesome to watch but krillin almost got us killed and Vageta gulable. The only one who had sense was Trunks.
In the grand sheme people wanna blame krillim too but they never listen to Piccolo first and vegeta got his sun killed cause he didnt want to listen either, trunks say this happen and hes too arrogant to understand the truth of his life literally repeating itself but this time its all Vegeta's fault.
It’s both their fault
Vegeta must of been more satisfied Knowing how Cell reach his perfect form since 18 broke his arm when they Fought I know it was because he wanted to if cell would get stronger but Basically got revenge without that being the intention gave a Fu to her
Vegeta letting cell become perfect is entirely in his character at this point Vegetas main goal was not saving the earth (although part of him did care for his family) it was proving he is the most superior warrior that has ever lived killing cell while he was weak would be the act of a coward from his point of view vegeta is not a hero yet he wants to be number 1 he can only do that by beating cell at his best even if it did not work out the way he expected lol goku throwing the senzu bean though I am still trying to figure out.
Vegeta normal kills his enemy imediately but now hes so stupid
There is a difference. In Frieza's saga Vegeta killed off his enemies quickly because his goal was having the dragon balls and he knew Freeza was far superior, so he couldnt be playing around. Here he doesnt have a specific goal, other than show he's the strongest
@@AdrianoAndrade-zn5iy i'll add 1 detail: in Freeza saga he knew he is far too weak to win against Freeza, here he see the so called monster Cell is below him
10x gravity? My eyes would weigh over 5 pounds and fall out their socket 😂😂
21:25 “Future Kick!”
Dragon ball z was such a dark anime and that's what made it so great. Super lacks this.
I like how everyone is goin back watch old episodes to critique them since we might’ve over looked it as kids😂
So krillin basically killed goku for a girl he just met. Nice friend.
In fairness, he did end up getting her.
And if you wanna follow that logic, Gohan's responsible for his father's death
@@theofficialliedetector1545 gohan is like 9 though.
yea really bothers me how they stole these wins from him was it so hard to give him one or two wins on main villains
Buddy. He didn't want the wins himself. Nobody took it. He was about cockiness and proving his worth.
@@ordenax toriyama took it from him now hes dead so time for a new day a day where vegeta wins
@@derrickhead And Toriyama gave him Character traits too. So, accordingly he lost those fights.
@@ordenax yea but the same traits he had in frieza saga when he finishing off people no mercy is same he should have here this is actully not of his traits even piccolo and tien just said its not like him to not kill off rip so yea you full of it get on
Gohan wouldn't even be special if Vegeta won
It's arrogance not pride as a saiyan warrior
Can we talk about how krillin also fumbled
Sorry, the music really kills it, unwatchable
What were the chances that Cell blasted every other island except the one they were one.
Hormones are crazy 🤣😂 I use to think 18 was beautiful as a kid
Damn, how's it feel to know you had better taste as a kid?
@@jazzyboy27short haired woman = garbage
And then you found out the gold digher she was
This all really Krillin fault. In love with a robot
Vegetas voice actor was better before
This show is so much better and complex than super. Such a joke to dumb down every single character.
Exactly why I would never watch DB super. The character development is so intense in Z. Like you see how Vegeta has grown and changed and Goku has made an impression on everyone
What's with the music
English dub Goku knows about gravity and air density, but doesn't know what a kiss is in DB Super lol. Does Goku say anything about air density and gravity in the time chamber in DBZ manga? (And in Japanese)
O verdadeiro Vegeta eliminaria o inimigo no primeiro golpe. Transformaram ele num idiota nessa temporada.
True
He didn't. SPOILER:
In a later scene Cell proved that he could have destroyed the planet if someone legit tried to finish him.
Krillin destroyed the remote cos he put faith in Vegeta and Trunks also would you blow up a blonde baddie if you was bald n short? 😂
Trunks could’ve ended that
Gohan acted this way so did goku
Future trunks made Vegeta a better and more involved father with kid trunks thats why hes more competitive arrogant an full of himself like his father than future trunks
18 should've been gone probably on the otger side of the planet
Trunks was already a super saiyan when he gets here but some how goku and gohan surpass him doing the same training he did 😆😆🤣
From the future for nothing
I think it's because Goku & Gohan actually trained together the whole time in the time chamber. Vegeta pretty much ignored trunks most of the time.
I think it was stated by somebody (idk if it was DBZ or DBS) that training with another person raises your power faster than training by yourself
@ lols yeah right..
Its just animation after all
Mybe trunks was just sitting on his ass in that chamber who knows🤔🤔
@12:03 focusflash
Krillin🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
Krillin??? Vegeta!
A whole chicken tender
Krillin's simping levels are ungodly.
She just waited to get absorbed Smh this whole episode píssed me off
The girl literally charged towards Cell. She wanted that Perfect Rizz. 😂
Vegeta fans 😢 look away 😭
Dla jedzenia był miesiąc w Komorze,w huja ih zrobił.
Too much editing
Cell💪Pall
this is the good version and not garbage kai version the bots all like / how did you get the good animation / music?
Krillen is so useless
Bruh skipped all the best lines. Delete this
10x gravity? My eyes would weigh over 5 pounds and fall out their socket 😂😂