This the bright example that, Lack of communication, arrogance and not to be cooperative with other coworkers can bring down all your effort to disaster, no matter how highly experienced or how highly knowledgeable you are.
So sad that there were that many crashes for Korean Air in the late 90's. Even one death would have been too much, and there was far more than that. But I respect that the airline took the AAIB'S recommendations seriously and acted on them. Many airlines just write off recommendations after crashes, but this one made actual substantive changes that saved countless lives. I hate that it takes people dying to force airlines to make changes, (and that's any airline, not just this one) but it seems like that's always the way it works.
I've seen several of these Mayday episodes where critical and overbearing captains caused their first officers to be afraid to speak up, and it's not just Koreans. In fact that was a huge factor in the Tenerife disaster where both pilots were Dutch. I really hope captains these days realize that their terrible attitudes can get them and everyone on board killed; likewise, first officers realize that they need to speak up no matter how much the captain tries to intimidate them.
I know Great Britain, where class is everything starting right from the royal family.. social class or financial, educational, racial, absolutely ridiculous,, and they all think it's normal and kiss up and never complain
Forgot to say, I'm really grateful you guys have made these episodes available. Particularly in the UK. Seems Denis Akiyama was a favourite actor of yours. RIP. And the Korean Pilots of course.
Korean Air seems to have learned their lesson. There was a Korean Airlines plane in 2022 that was written off after a runway overrun, but no one was hurt. They have not had any fatal accidents since the one in Stansted.
@@AnetaMihaylova-d6f A Korean Air Airbus A330 after it landed in Mactan-Cebu International Airport went into a runway excursion. Miraculously no one was injured or killed but the airplane was a total hull loss.
Indeed. "Bad Attitude" referring to both an aritificial horizon giving false readouts and... sadly, thousands of years of Korean social and cultural heritage. May both pilots R.I.P.
What I learned from this documentary episode is I don’t care if you’re a captain, senior first officer, first officer, or second officer, I don’t care how senior or junior you are in the cockpit, and I don’t care how highly trained you are. Flying an airliner is teamwork and everyone makes mistakes even the most senior, highly trained, and well respected captains can make mistakes. We learn from our mistakes. This is why today we have crew resource management. Pilots fly as a team.
When the captain banked the plane to the left, the faulty INU sent erroneous data to his ADI, preventing the instrument from showing the aircraft was in a bank. The comparator alarm sounded repeatedly, which was an indication that the aircraft's two ADI displays were in disagreement.
PTSD of being a fighter pilot and the sound might have triggered a "target lock" alarm in his mind and was fighting an enemy aircraft when he was banking.
They’ve done pretty well. There was a runway overrun in 2022, but no one was hurt and they haven’t had any other fatal accidents since the crash in England.
Isn’t the captain the same actor from the video on JAL123? Anyway, the social expectations in Korea are not at all close to what is the safest in aviation. It’s also pretty sad how the defect was not yet fixed. Also, I live right next to an airway for a northern approach into Orlando (MCO). My backyard is basically the executive airport. My sons and I are all aviation experts and I would also be surprised hearing a 747 being much louder than usual. While normal people might just complain about the noise (you chose to live there), I would literally be panicking.
@@tullemaltese He passed away from cancer in 2018 Denis Akiyama was a Canadian actor of Japanese origin who appeared in 3 episodes of mayday which includes the JAL flight 123 crash also.
Avoided KAL for decades after the shootdown and the forced landing incident in Russia, but now on their FF program as now I tend to avoid US carriers due to poorer service.
I have been learning how to speak Korean for the past couple of years. While learning it I even have been learning the culture of Korea. Everywhere there is some type of hierarchy and if that hierarchy is disturbed in anyway the Koreans basically have no idea what to do. Most of the time they consider it to bring shame to you and your family if you try to overstep that in anyway. They feel it is better to die than to overstep it just to keep that honor. The reason why they have this hierarchy is to keep things in check and not give a second opinion. Which is now starting to be seen as something good for the newer generation, but it will still take them years to come out of this idea of shaming yourself will also shame your family.
As Korean, I guarantee you understand Korean in depth.😂 If someone say 'right thing' in their job, that person must be fired or bullied. (I think Fired is better than bullied) This kind of bullying happened in Korean air exactly ten years ago. It's another issue which called 'Peanut return'. Anyway Korean air is very infamous for hierarchical enterprise even in Korea. In my opinion, Korean air just projects Korean society.
Culture influences is a very serious problem for safety. Once I dared to tell to my First Officer, look, I appreciate your culture but forget about it in the cockpit for the remainder of the flight. Every one is welcomed to speak up freely I said. Totally agree with the concept of the cockpit synergy. SAFETY IS PARAMOUNT !
You should definitely recommend them to watch Air Crash Investigation with accident like this to make them understand as to how important real teamwork is.
My mother-in-law lives in Little Hallingbury, just under the flight path for Stanstead. I remember when I heard about this, I thought to myself, 'I bet she was up flying her broomstick that night'.
I firmly believe that CRM is one of the single greatest contributors to the state of aviation safety these days. You watch so many of these old bad-CRM crashes and it's always so tragic and wild how no one does anything or no one takes over. Edit: I forgot about the jawbone tangent. That one always gives me shivers. What if?
Sometimes my ADI malfunctions. It typically occurs on a Friday or Saturday night. I contact the control tower and go in for a crash landing in the bed but occasionally I miss the runway.
I hate that every time an accident happens they are always saying “this is the safest airplane it could never go down we were so confused”, like 😐😐😐 anything can happen why are you surprise that something humans built and humans operate failed???????????
No one worships honorifics and position/age “respect” more than Korean culture does. There is a specific honorific/protocol for just about every situation and any kind of slight is considered super insulting. Speaking out of turn or not respecting a senior/elder is just not done.
That's why egalitarian approach is very important where everyone is free to speak without any retribution or retaliation, CRM improved aviation safety in so many ways... There are some cultures and norms that are really harmful for aviation safety.. aviation is one of the place that teach us humility and value the lives of the many..
It is not the first time the arrogance of a Captain over a First Officer has contributed to a tragedy. 'Culture' should not take precedence over common sense, teamwork and safety. At least it seems Korean Air learnt lessons from this.
As if.....! Foreign CEOs or 'superiors' who come to Scandinavia are shocked that there are subordinates sitting at the table who 'allow' themselves to speak or ask questions. I have seen it with Brits, Americans and Germans alike. The old hierarchical traditions also prevail there, and when they experience the flat hierarchy of the Scandinavians, they don't like it :)
That is like saying potatoes do not like being deep fried in to French Fries or (English Chips) because the oil is hot. But Plabes nor potatoes have any snse as they are not alive.
UA-cam doesn't mind paying it because people watch them. Just because you have seen them doesn't mean other people have. If you don't want to watch, just don't and leave it for newcomers.
7:00 The Captain in this episode has mysteriously survived from Japan Airlines 123.
This guy has crashed loads of planes and needs to be stopped!
@@xthaone Praise the Lord!
@@legitbeans9078 😂
Thank you, I was so confused since I recognised him but the episode otherwise didn't feel familiar 😂
And the Korean air 747 shot down my a mig!!
This the bright example that, Lack of communication, arrogance and not to be cooperative with other coworkers can bring down all your effort to disaster, no matter how highly experienced or how highly knowledgeable you are.
@@ritabratagoswami7724 that's why he isn't with God he's rotting away if he lived he would be rotting in jail
@@ritabratagoswami7724 Thanks for summarizing the investigation. U nailed it!
So sad that there were that many crashes for Korean Air in the late 90's. Even one death would have been too much, and there was far more than that. But I respect that the airline took the AAIB'S recommendations seriously and acted on them. Many airlines just write off recommendations after crashes, but this one made actual substantive changes that saved countless lives. I hate that it takes people dying to force airlines to make changes, (and that's any airline, not just this one) but it seems like that's always the way it works.
I've seen several of these Mayday episodes where critical and overbearing captains caused their first officers to be afraid to speak up, and it's not just Koreans. In fact that was a huge factor in the Tenerife disaster where both pilots were Dutch. I really hope captains these days realize that their terrible attitudes can get them and everyone on board killed; likewise, first officers realize that they need to speak up no matter how much the captain tries to intimidate them.
Yes. The point is that some cultures make such situations more likely or make them harder to correct.
much more common in many asian cultures
I know Great Britain, where class is everything starting right from the royal family.. social class or financial, educational, racial, absolutely ridiculous,, and they all think it's normal and kiss up and never complain
This is true, but Tenerife was a huge chain of errors. It's hard to say CRM was the main cause.
Bcuz,1st officer are sucky ,nervous,and un prepared. They basically get paid ,big $, 2 do nothing but ,keep the captain happy n amused. Fact. ❤❤❤🎉😂
Forgot to say, I'm really grateful you guys have made these episodes available. Particularly in the UK. Seems Denis Akiyama was a favourite actor of yours. RIP. And the Korean Pilots of course.
Team work is always very good
Korean Air seems to have learned their lesson. There was a Korean Airlines plane in 2022 that was written off after a runway overrun, but no one was hurt. They have not had any fatal accidents since the one in Stansted.
Yeah, that one happened in Cebu which is where my mom’s from.
@@lexusdriver1963what happened there ?
@@AnetaMihaylova-d6f A Korean Air Airbus A330 after it landed in Mactan-Cebu International Airport went into a runway excursion. Miraculously no one was injured or killed but the airplane was a total hull loss.
@@lexusdriver1963 was it pilot error
@@AnetaMihaylova-d6fHydraulic failure of the brakes
This accident is caused by human failure " bad attitude." Interestingly, these investigators talk so calmly and relaxed.
Indeed. "Bad Attitude" referring to both an aritificial horizon giving false readouts and... sadly, thousands of years of Korean social and cultural heritage. May both pilots R.I.P.
over 20 seasons does that.
What I learned from this documentary episode is I don’t care if you’re a captain, senior first officer, first officer, or second officer, I don’t care how senior or junior you are in the cockpit, and I don’t care how highly trained you are. Flying an airliner is teamwork and everyone makes mistakes even the most senior, highly trained, and well respected captains can make mistakes. We learn from our mistakes. This is why today we have crew resource management. Pilots fly as a team.
When the captain banked the plane to the left, the faulty INU sent erroneous data to his ADI, preventing the instrument from showing the aircraft was in a bank. The comparator alarm sounded repeatedly, which was an indication that the aircraft's two ADI displays were in disagreement.
PTSD of being a fighter pilot and the sound might have triggered a "target lock" alarm in his mind and was fighting an enemy aircraft when he was banking.
By the way, the actor playing the captain died in 2018. His name was Denis Akiyama.
7:56 clean transition
An incredible and tragic sequence of events.
Good Luck to the airline
'going forward '
They’ve done pretty well. There was a runway overrun in 2022, but no one was hurt and they haven’t had any other fatal accidents since the crash in England.
8:09 bro in the back saw the camera😅😅
camera:oh Sh!t bro saw me
*camera switches with camera #5*
Isn’t the captain the same actor from the video on JAL123?
Anyway, the social expectations in Korea are not at all close to what is the safest in aviation. It’s also pretty sad how the defect was not yet fixed.
Also, I live right next to an airway for a northern approach into Orlando (MCO). My backyard is basically the executive airport. My sons and I are all aviation experts and I would also be surprised hearing a 747 being much louder than usual. While normal people might just complain about the noise (you chose to live there), I would literally be panicking.
Yes his name is Denis Akiyama .
He passed away in 2018 sadly
Yeah he was very handsome but someone in the comments said he died! Rip
@@tullemaltese dude i just google him up
@@tullemaltese He passed away from cancer in 2018 Denis Akiyama was a Canadian actor of Japanese origin who appeared in 3 episodes of mayday which includes the JAL flight 123 crash also.
Avoided KAL for decades after the shootdown and the forced landing incident in Russia, but now on their FF program as now I tend to avoid US carriers due to poorer service.
Hey, isn't the actor who played Gary Dann (the witness) is the same who played the ATC of Aeromexico 498?
It is indeed. I just watched that one lol
Stumbled across this video on what turns out to be the 25th anniversary. Rest in peace all involved.
I have been learning how to speak Korean for the past couple of years. While learning it I even have been learning the culture of Korea. Everywhere there is some type of hierarchy and if that hierarchy is disturbed in anyway the Koreans basically have no idea what to do. Most of the time they consider it to bring shame to you and your family if you try to overstep that in anyway. They feel it is better to die than to overstep it just to keep that honor. The reason why they have this hierarchy is to keep things in check and not give a second opinion. Which is now starting to be seen as something good for the newer generation, but it will still take them years to come out of this idea of shaming yourself will also shame your family.
It's sadly a poison in all East Asian culture.
Pretty old way of thinking...
That’s exactly the explanation for the Sampoong collapse.
As Korean, I guarantee you understand Korean in depth.😂 If someone say 'right thing' in their job, that person must be fired or bullied. (I think Fired is better than bullied) This kind of bullying happened in Korean air exactly ten years ago. It's another issue which called 'Peanut return'. Anyway Korean air is very infamous for hierarchical enterprise even in Korea. In my opinion, Korean air just projects Korean society.
Kool,translate," korea SUX" ,for me. Thnxx 😉 🇰🇷 🇰🇷 🇰🇷 😆 🇺🇸 🌎 🇺🇲
37:19 why is there a air Canada DC-9 at the cargo stand and why is it at stansted airport.
Wait A Minute, Where's Nationair Flight 2120 For "Under Pressure"
Episodes are gradually getting published on UA-cam. Just be patient
@@Malia0009im so thankful for these. I’m Canadian and randomly starting getting these recently.
Its the next one
This guy I found him in the Japan Airlines
@@YanHangWong but why is his grammar better?
Im pretty sure he was reborn or something
In any areas regardless working as a team is very important.
The captain here kinda looks like the captain in JAL 123
Ngl he does
20:00 what is that spooling noise as he holds up the ADI?
No flight plan filed,
no repair manual????
Culture influences is a very serious problem for safety. Once I dared to tell to my First Officer, look, I appreciate your culture but forget about it in the cockpit for the remainder of the flight. Every one is welcomed to speak up freely I said.
Totally agree with the concept of the cockpit synergy. SAFETY IS PARAMOUNT !
The first officer was my dad R.i.p😢😢
You should definitely recommend them to watch Air Crash Investigation with accident like this to make them understand as to how important real teamwork is.
Prayers for him .
Tragic story:(
My mother-in-law lives in Little Hallingbury, just under the flight path for Stanstead. I remember when I heard about this, I thought to myself, 'I bet she was up flying her broomstick that night'.
DAMN another video!
A little annoying when people mistake light for fire no?
What i learn as an aviation enthusiast and a college student myself is Communication Skill is important but not in this case.
True
Working as a team .
❤great life lessons here❤❤
When I first learnt to fly the four words that where drummed into me to the point of them being muscle memory where ...'.My controls Your controls'.
Is there any video for the Indian Airlines Flight 257 crash on 16th August 1991?
Gosh, this is an unflattering depiction of the captain.
I firmly believe that CRM is one of the single greatest contributors to the state of aviation safety these days.
You watch so many of these old bad-CRM crashes and it's always so tragic and wild how no one does anything or no one takes over.
Edit: I forgot about the jawbone tangent. That one always gives me shivers. What if?
Sometimes my ADI malfunctions. It typically occurs on a Friday or Saturday night. I contact the control tower and go in for a crash landing in the bed but occasionally I miss the runway.
7:22 don’t put it in 2x speed
8:03 and 3x
I hate that every time an accident happens they are always saying “this is the safest airplane it could never go down we were so confused”, like 😐😐😐 anything can happen why are you surprise that something humans built and humans operate failed???????????
Titanic effect - so safe it cannot crash.
8:20 Captain Park?
He looks like Masami takahama
Every rule, directive and law in aviation is written in the blood of those that came before us.
From Malaysia coming
No one worships honorifics and position/age “respect” more than Korean culture does. There is a specific honorific/protocol for just about every situation and any kind of slight is considered super insulting. Speaking out of turn or not respecting a senior/elder is just not done.
@Frazzled_Chameleon - well maybe they need to change that way of thinking if it leads to avoidable tragedy.
What was the point of the "jaw bone/twisted plastic" info???
If I'm about to die because someone is making a mistake, screw culture, I'm saying something.
And that's partly because of your culture.
It is not that easy to change in a matter of seconds. If this took longer he might have gotten the chance to think and speak up.
We had a crash in December 2024 in korean
The captain looks and acts like a grinch. And he successfully stole the Christmas of the crew.
Flight 2120 next ❤❤❤
Deleted Uranium as Balast... An interesting choice.
In Asian countries it seems to be usual to notice this hierarchy that sometimes causes terrible catastrophes.
Together
Everyone
Achieves
More
That was the motto of my old school :D
horrible accident😑😑
That's why egalitarian approach is very important where everyone is free to speak without any retribution or retaliation, CRM improved aviation safety in so many ways... There are some cultures and norms that are really harmful for aviation safety.. aviation is one of the place that teach us humility and value the lives of the many..
Arrogance was the main responsible in this crash
JUMPSCARE AT 10:06
I did not know the 747 had depleted uranium in its tail section
that captian should of never been on that flight..or allowed to fly any more planes..he was a danger to everyone
😅why does captain look like the one from Japan air 123
Cause he is it's the same actor from the original Jal 123 espiode
Oh this is acting
@@TobeyOscar he unfortunately died in 2018
Rip
@@TobeyOscar bro it is a recreation based on real life accidents with some original things liike fdr and vr!!!
why do they fly woth uranium in the plane....thats just odd...
how does that help it fly?
4 people in the cockpit and no one did a thing!!!
Why is there the 123 pilot on the thumbnail
Please add Air France 447
They already did.
its already there.. one of the best episodes of mayday
How is the Japan airlines 123 pilot in Korean air
That's what I said but that wasn't the pilot that was problary Masami takahama twin lol
And JAL 123 crashed in 1985
Is there any tantrums of Korean Air Cargo Flight 8509 crews?
It is not the first time the arrogance of a Captain over a First Officer has contributed to a tragedy.
'Culture' should not take precedence over common sense, teamwork and safety.
At least it seems Korean Air learnt lessons from this.
기장이 전직 군인이었다고 소개하는 부분에서 사건이 한번에 이해가 돼서 눈을 질끈 감아버렸다.. 제목을 보고 항상 보던 그 이유일줄은 알았지만 구성원들 보니까 불가항력이었네
뭐야 꼰대짓 때문에 그 사고를 쳐놓고 갑질이랑 땅콩회항을 했냐고.. 매뉴얼은 좀 고쳤어도 권위적인건 그대로인것 같은데
Just me or the pilot looks like the pilot of JAL123
Same actor
JAL 123 PILOT?!?
They were gonna help?? What the christ did they think they were gonna do. ??
why does the pilot in the thumbnail look like JAL-123 co-pilot
Same actor
This was avoidable...total human error
I always have been of the opinion that social hirarchy is a bad thing.
Especially when it’s “amplified.”
it's not the fault of that concept...it's the fault of overbearing, insufferable people.
Upon hearing the captain's name was duck one didn't hold out to much hope for the flight
13:00 Miller the Killer😅only cricket fans will get the reference
2012.
9:46
31:53 😡
Bros mad
🇰🇪loves aviation
Big
9:05
Im going to koreon air
15:14
00:55
Hwan in 60 seconds...
As if.....!
Foreign CEOs or 'superiors' who come to Scandinavia are shocked that there are subordinates sitting at the table who 'allow' themselves to speak or ask questions. I have seen it with Brits, Americans and Germans alike.
The old hierarchical traditions also prevail there, and when they experience the flat hierarchy of the Scandinavians, they don't like it :)
I said it once, I said a hundred times planes don’t like flying. They’d rather crash than fly in the freezing air they are asked to go to.
That is like saying potatoes do not like being deep fried in to French Fries or (English Chips) because the oil is hot. But Plabes nor potatoes have any snse as they are not alive.
Moronic comment.
Someone must have forgotten to teach you about newtons first law
captain dum dum strikes again.
Lots of banking in these videos...
As an irish man im devastated by the loss of the 2 tonnes of whiskey 😢 😔
Another re-upload? This is getting silly.... How does UA-cam keep wanting to pay for the same content? Again and again? And again?
Odd isn't it?...
Unsubscribe from the channel. You can go and watch something else. Am I making myself clear?
UA-cam doesn't mind paying it because people watch them. Just because you have seen them doesn't mean other people have. If you don't want to watch, just don't and leave it for newcomers.
UA-cam pays for ads shown, not for content
Narrate in French, the rest of it is in foreign references...and it's air "craft" not "croft"....I'm sure you kont say it...
If you're going to throw stones, you better not live in a glass house.
@@markvinylgenie2920its a ragebait troll
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Trump 24 no more war
What a moronic comment. Has nothing to do with the video.😂
Vote Blue! 🗳
Took em a half hour to get there so close to the airport? What, were they waiting to finish their tea and crumpets first?
Priorities ☕️
6:55
00:44
Co-pilot is scared
00:51