My first rifle was a Sauer 80 in 7mm rem mag. my great uncle bought it back in the 70s and now its my favourite rifle to use, i can operate it almost silently and its just way smoother than all my 98s
This is the video that started it all. I typed smoothest bolt action in the search bar and the rest is history. I've been following every video since 1900 followers. Bolt actions are the reason I joined. Your content is invaluable to me.
1975, leslie edelmans gun store on Long Island, 16 years old. The salesman behind the counter handed us a Colt Sauer to try, I will never forget the experience. A 350 dollar rifle, 3x the price of a Remington at the time (Model 788), he pointed the muzzle up, unlocked the bolt and we watched the bolt SLOWLY back out of battery. NOW I understand Why, thanks!
I bought matching Colt Sauers in 1984 for a hunt in Wyoming. A .243 and a .30-06. The actions were amazing. And both rifles would keep three shots inside a dime sized group at a hundred yards. The finish and the wood were amazing on them. The downside? They were too damn pretty to put them in a scabbard on that horseback hunt!!!
Yes Doby - I know what you mean. My Colt Sauer 80 .270 has been on many hunts - all without leaving the comfort of padded accommodations in the comfort of my vault. I call these "armchair hunts." The rifle is so pretty. I'll have to use your system.
When I was in college I worked at a gun store and one day a fellow came in and traded a Colt Sauer in on something else, I dont remember the model or caliber of the rifle but I did notice the Blueing on the rifle and how nice it looked. One night I was working the gun dept and had a little time and I saw the Sauer sitting there and I took some serious time to look it over. The first time I opened the bolt to make sure it was empty I could hardly believe how smooth the bolt was, it was absolutely incredible how tight and just glass smooth, I grew up shooting Rugers and Remington 700s plus a plethora of others that I dont remember but this one was amazing. The wood to steel fit and finish were also dead on the nutts and the blueing was a deep as the old Pythons used to be and just perfect in uniformity! The checkering followed the same extremely high standard of workmanship! I dont remember what they had on it for a price but do remember it being higher than normal. I have owned some extremely reliable, accurate and reliable rifles before the this one was a pretty big step UP from anything I ever owned!
You're right Karl - incredible quality in the Colt Sauer, Sauer 80 and 90, the corresponding Carl Gustaf rifles and the FN Sauer variant - they were all 10/10. Thanks for the note.
I own 2 sauer 90s myself . Both in classic fullstock version or what we in germany call it Stutzen . 1 in 308,win and the other in 9,3x62 . Keep up the good work !! Love your videos . Greetings from a german guy in Norway ;)
Vielen Dank! Your Stutzens are superb and the 9.3 X 62 especially scarce. I handled a .308 Stutzen - fast to point - ideal. I'm looking for one. I hear great things about Norway and hunting there! Best to you!
Used my Sauer 80...bought new in 1981.. on most big game in Canada. 7MM Rem. Mag with handloads using Norma 170 grain PPC with slowest burning powder at the time H870. Been a great rifle and never let me down. Good review... Have never really trusted safties on any gun and with the Sauer I can chamber a round with the trigger pulled. Gives me a loaded cartridge but mainspring not under tension. Just open and close the bolt and the gun is now ready to fire. Little noise on opening and closing and safer for carrying. Thanks for the vid...
I have a Sauer 90 in 30-06 that I use every time I go hunting. I have never had a failure or hiccup of any kind. This is a very well made rifle with reliability to match.
incredibly high quality rifle, if you have a chance to look at one, do so! the lux variants are even more impressive with superb wood, gold trigger, jeweled bolt. the locking lugs wont go anywhere, rumors get spread by people that can't afford them and have nothing else better to do
I agree Zanas - the Sauer 80/90 are superb in every way. My Sauer 80 in .308 is exceptionally accurate and everything works with extreme precision and smoothness.
Great Video, I couldnt`t agree more. I use my Sauer 80 everytime I go out hunting and also on the range. Never had any issues or problems. It has such a smooth action. Best regards from Germany
The S80 I own is my goto hunting rifle. Made approximately in 1972 West Germany and it still shoots very well. The bolt itself can be disassembled in a second for cleaning. The bolt is what is called a non-rotating bolt where only the back end of the bolt relates. There are minor flaws with this bolt mechanisms. In my rifle, and most, there is minute case stretch. Why.. I believe it has to do with the slight movement in these three locking lugs.. not 100% sure. But still this Sauer S80 is my favorite rifle. I also have a Heym SR21 which I will be using soon. Like you had shared a little (actually a lot) on the evolution, functionality, and popularity of the Mauser action. The Heym SR21 also has a Mauser action . However, what Heym did was rework this action with fitting and polishing for their rifles. Hence this Heym SR21 has a smooth action function and feel. ALWAYS enjoy watch your informative and inspiring videos... cheers
After watching a few of your videos, including one on my favorite rifle the steyr model M, I had a feeling you would surely have a Sauer. This is IMHO, the most beautiful/innovative production rifle, I have ever seen. It would be my all time favorite....if it was available for a South paw. Hence, the Steyr is. I surely would Have a Sauer as well, we're I not wrong handed.
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns I'm looking to buy a sauer 200. I'd like to add an extra magazine. Do you know if any other models are interchangeable. I cant find any online for the 200
The intention of the bolt locking system is to keep ignition shock to parts at a minimum by allowing the recoil to travel through the bolt to the THREE lugs evenly since it can be machined very precise vs milling the inside of the action. Another plus is the fully shrouded bolt head which also allows perfect forward mating of the bolt to the barrel. A very strong and easy to maintain system.
Thanks Davis, Such a fine action. I was just looking at my collection of them over the weekend - I especially like the short action models - sad that they discontinued them all.
I love my Mauser action rifles. Nothing is better or more dependable than controlled feed bolt action. I have a K98 7X57 and a Husky 6.5x55 SE. I also have a short action Mauser that I built. It is 30-30 Win. I also have a couple CZ 527 Mauser carbines. A 7.62x39 and a 22 Hornet. I am giving most of my rifles to my son. I will keep my 22 Hornet, 7.62x39, and my 30-30. I do really like 6.5 Grendel too.
I have a Model 90 in 7x64. I love that rifle. Even under the severe handling of 'machine gunning' rounds on driven boar shooting it has never failed to lift and load or eject a case. The trigger is superb and the set trigger is benchrest light when needed. Most guns I own are come-and-go rifles but the Sauer I will not part with or part-ex. With somewhat inexpensive Sellier and Bellot ammunition my rifle will print 3/4'' inch 5 shot groups all day. Matched with a Swarovski Z6i 2-12 scope it is my go to gun for any European quarry. if anyone finds one of these for sale they are well worth the money and higher grade rifles make wonderful heirlooms to pass down the family line.
I agree with you 100%. The Sauer 80/90 is a magnificent rifle and it will take a long time for Sauer to come up with anything close. The current offerings from Sauer are excellent, but routine bolt actions nonetheless - no matter how well made. The Sauer 80/90 were unique, imaginative and superbly made. Glad you reminded me how great they are. Thanks.
J.P. Sauer & Son, a "West" German company, also was contracted by Roy Weatherby to build his magnum rifle line during the 1960-70s. I can see the connection in design, especially the stock dimensions pertaining to these rifles. Extremely well made of very high quality materials.
Thanks Denis - I know a couple of fellow collectors who only collect the German Weatherby's - the US and Japan models are not inferior as far as I can tell - they just like to collect the German models. Some of the German models do have a wonderful understated European stock though. All the best to you.
I have a Sauer 82 it has a 2 piece stock aluminum receiver and set trigger. You push the trigger toward and it becomes about4 ounces! It's in the book world of guns!
Thanks for the review! Very well done. I have 2 of the Colt Sauer Rifles, a .375 H&H new in the box and I have a .270 win. that is in like new condition fired less than 100rds. Thanks again nice seeing these rifles.
Amazing. The 375 NIB is worth a fortune. Good call. The .270 is more common - as you know - but still in the up elevator - price wise. Not that we are in this for money; but liquidity is always nice. Anyway - the Sauer and especially the Colt Sauer is a bankable asset. It will be a long time before a rifle of such mechanical precision and engineering and assembly brilliance appears again.
That is a scarce rifle Roan. I owned one years ago - it was marketed by Colt and had a bubinga wood stock - which you probably know is a strong, heavy, African wood. The rifle was remarkably accurate. Even at 200 yards the group looked more like a 75 yard target. I guess those big, heavy bullets know where they are supposed to go. Anyway - great buy.
One of the best bolt rifles - now discontinued; certainly top quality. Some people collect only the Sauer 80/90 and the Colt and Carl Gustaf branded rifles - as well as FN.
I have a Carl Gustaf 3000, I believe that it is the same as sauer 90. The action looks the same and it operates the same, it's in 30-06 and I love it. I hand load for it and I can't see any big case stretch 😃it's just perfect. The best pig slayer I have
Thanks for an excellent video! I’m new to hunting and from Sweden and I found a Carl Gustav 3000 which should be almost the same as the Sauer 90... I’m a little bit worried about the stories I’ve heard that maintenance is especially important with these rifles! Is it possible to clean the trigger mechanism -if necessary- on your own, or do you need to send it to a competent gun-smith? And what is the preferred cleaning method for trigger mechanism and bolt? Cleaning agent and oil! Thanks again!
Also, the bolt actually physically retains the bolt by physically moving retaining mechanisms against the receiver kind of like a door stop. The strength would be the compressive strength of those captive retention blocks. Unbelievable actions, and the stocks, 1989, 1990 were matte finish and again, palm swell, tapered forearm and elevated cheek rest for a scope. Oh and a set trigger! On all except .270 and 30-06.... I don't know why.
hard to beat the brilliant novelty of these sauers, whether the 80 or 90. maybe the mauser 66 with the telescoping bolt and switch barrel, or the rarified german guns you have reviewed. if you're still in the market for something special, buy one of these if you can find it--with no regrets. of course a mauser 98, especially in the 8mm mauser should be the foundation of all informed collections....
What brand are the scope mount bases on your rifle? I bought a Carl Gustaf version and it came with Weaver bases, yours are so more streamline looking.
I just inspected the rifle after I picked it up. It’s in flawless condition and has taken over top spot for the prettiest rifle in my safe. The bolt is indeed the smoothest action of any of my guns with my CZ 550 American with a Mauser action in second. I did notice something odd about the Model 90. There is a little silver screw that goes through the action just behind and to the rear (10 O-clock position). I was wondering what it’s for? Is it to vent gases in the event of an over pressure? I’ll see if I can attach a picture.
Hello T-Dawg, Congrats on the purchase - an incredibly well made rifle. I checked my rifles and there is a loaded chamber indicator on the left side of the front receiver ring - but you may be referring to something else - I'm not sure. I took my 9.3x62 to the woods and shot a 3 shot group at 100 yards that would usually associated with a match rifle. Mind you, those big bullets usually like to follow one another. All the best.
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns I think you are right. It must be the loaded chamber indicator. I've never seen a chamber loaded indicator on a bolt action rifle, so that's what threw me off. I'll mount a scope to mine and take it to the range to see how it shoots, but don't think this is a gun I'll take hunting because it's just too pretty. :) I've got other, more practical, rifles I'll use instead.
I bought a Carl Gustav 3000 from a gun shop for $620.00 had a cracked stock ,but still useable ,which is a pity as it has nice wood ,the other thing, when you take it off SAFE ,it wont fire unless you Lift and lower ,the bolt handle ? something to do with the button on the bolt handle , there's a review of the Colt Sauer in Stuart Otterson's books on rifles, there is a bunch of Colt Sauer's for sale on Guns Int and the moment ,but big $
The Sauer was imported to Sweden and branded Carl Gustaf - the King of Sweden. If you happen to own a Carl Gustaf 3000 - you own one of the finest rifles ever made. Some say the finest.
I love to reload but mainly for my handguns, my ARs and my BR rifle. For my hunting rifles I really don’t shoot them enough to need to reload for them though I have in the past. Same for shotguns, if I still shot trap and skeet I would reload but I no longer do so the few rounds I expend each bird season doesn’t justify a Ponsness-Warren. :)
USOG that makes perfect sense. My BR rifle is a .300 Borden Caribou and is basically a .300 Wby Imp. I can shoot Wby ammo through it to fire form the cases but obviously I have to reload my fire formed cases. Jim Borden cut my resizing die with the same reamer he cut my chamber with. It’s a real shooter. If you’re ever looking for an action to build a rifle around you couldn’t go wrong with a Borden.
Hi Rodolfo - It's not too bad on this rifle. I checked mine and there is a small screw facing down which can be turned to adjust trigger pull. I had to take the trigger guard off on mine. The bolt I have not taken apart. Thanks for the note.
The bolt handle turns what amounts to a long cam inside the bolt body. As the cam turns the lugs are forced out and when the bolt handle is lifted, the lugs are forced to pivot back into the bolt body - flush - so the bolt moves in the receiver as a pipe in a tube. Hope that makes sense.
I recently bought a JP Sauer and Sohn Model 90 and cannot find any information online to tell what year it was made. I even contacted JPSauerUSA (part of Blaser USA) in Texas, and they said it was made before they began importing them and that they don't have any information. It sure would be nice to know something about what I just bought, if you know of any resources to point me to it would be helpful. Thanks!
Hi! I follow u from India... the iof .30-06 is based on sauer 202 blueprint... in fact early rifles in late 2005-6 had barrels imported to india from sauer co. I own an early iof...... can u do a video on sauer 202?? Also i would request you to do a video on marlin .22...
Hello Fowad - I'll get a Sauer 202 in the studio as soon as I can - I had one - very fine rifle. The action is heavy due to a lot of steel; which is a good thing. Mine was in 30-06 and was the 202 Takedown - so I had a second barrel in 9.3x62. Which Marlin would you like to see a video on?
I recently purchased a CG 3000 in 6.5x55. They claim to have an adjustable trigger. Mine is set at about 3.5Lbs and has red paint on the adjustment screw. Do you think it is possible to lower pull weight to maybe 2.5 Lbs? Great work as always!
Hi Mike - It is possible but I would leave the trigger as is. Painted screws often mean the consequences of turning them may not be what one expects. Of course I could be wrong - but someone put the paint there for a reason. IMHO : )
I read once that one of the criteria that Paul Mauser had was that the average German Soldier had a 3td grade education. I’m sure that wasn’t his only criteria but it’s axiomatic that simple is often best.
USOG Oh I doubt you’re incompetent with computers. I can tell that you’re a very intelligent man. Perhaps you use the same secret weapons I use when it comes to smart phones and computers, my sons, daughters-in-law and my oldest grandson. :)
So it locks in the rear? Front locking lugs make the accuracy much better. Compare the Mauser to the Lee enfield, not close to a Lee but there are similarity’s.
Hi Briar Nuce - You're right - front locking is the mechanically best way to go. Still, there is an art to gunmaking and something different can be enchanting. By rights, we'd all be using Mauser 98s only.
I personally had a problem with the safety, that can accidentally auto - angage, under recoil and/or moving the bolt. That obviously can be dangerous or at least uncorfortable. This can be fixed, but I find the safety not well engineered, and possibly positioned in a wrong place. For the rest, the gun is outstanding.
Just subscribed, I'm thinking you're here in Canada since I saw the old Canadian Tire plastic caliper slip into shot. I've been shopping for a Sauer and with the advent of the S100 Classic XT I think I'll take the plunge. Would love to here your opinion.
I cannot seem to remove the bolt the way you did. Do you know of any problems that can cause this? I got the rifle handed down to me and can't really ask anyone.
Hello sr. I want to know if you can inform me about this point. I do own a Sauer s 101, 308 caliber. I did buy this gun on 2017 year. The action part is made in steel or in a alloy aluminium piece? Thank you very much and very beautiful yours videos. Juan, from Argentina Excuse my bad english.
Hi Juan - Your English is fine. The barrel is heat pressure fit into the receiver without threading - which usually means the receiver is steel. Please check with a magnet on yours and let me know. There are different models. All the best, Mike
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns hello sir. I did just what you adviced me. I did put a magnet piece on barrel and on the action and ir works . The piece was catched on both piece so I discovered with your help that Sauer S101 2017 year producto serie A is all steel made. Thank you sir. Until next and Best regards Juan, from Argentina
You may have made the right choice by selling your 458. I knew a man that had been to Africa on safaris many times and he told me he had 2 stocks on a colt sauer 458 splinter because of the recoil. I've owned 5 but the most powerful is my 7 mag. A lot of diff between it and the 458 I'm guessing 😊
Hi Nico - that is interesting! They used Bubinga wood - as I'm sure you know - on some African stocks. Maybe not a great idea. Anyway - I try to avoid recoil - so I like your cals. better. Even 7 mag is more than enough for me. Cheers.
Hi Colin, The Carl Gustaf 3000 is one of the finest rifles of all time and is the same as the Sauer 80 which became the Sauer 90. These rifles use a bolt which has locking lugs that cam in and out of the bolt body - which means that when the bolt handle is lifted the lugs recede into the bolt itself - making bolt movement effortless and entirely smooth. Every action type has stories about it and some people say the Sauer 80 lugs can seize in place due to dirt or too much pressure. I've owned several of these rifles and have never had any issues of any kind in many different circumstances. Hope this helps.
I forgot to mention that Colt sold these rifles for a few years under their brand. Also, the machining and fit and finish are as good as it gets. I'm looking for one in .308. I had a .458 with a Bubinga wood stock which was the most accurate .458 I've ever owned. The Sauer was discontinued last year or so.
i have owned several you dud not mention the chamber indicating pin on the side or the holes in the bolt to releive pressure if a primer fails or that the trigger is fully adjustable hard to describe the action it is something that has to be felt
USOG I did the deal. All four appear to be mint condition, maybe never fired. The 243 has gold lettering. All of them have custom factory mounts put on at the Sauer factory. None of them have any engraving. If you're interested in seeing photos let me know.
Thanks TLE - that's what I think; somehow a rumor started that goes differently - but I've never had or seen anything to validate a problem. Seems fine and excellent to me.
Hello my friend, Guns America sometimes has one or two under custom rifles, Cabelas Gun Library, First Stop Guns, and any of the English gunmakers - H&H, Westley Richards etc... and the fine US : Griffin & Howe, Halowell & Co....there are many. Hope this helps and good luck!
FWIW, Mauser is still making their legendary model 98, direct from the factory in sporter form if you're willing to spend the money for one - www.eurooptic.com/Mauser-M98-Standard-Expert-30-06-M98SEX306.aspx Yes, I would *love* to have this little beauty, but well over $8K is a major kick in the pants!
Hi Jim - I did - it is in the video list somewhere. I reviewed an Interarms Mark X full stock; it might say Zastava - the maker. Hope you find it. Fine rifle!
I just inherited one of these rifles and after watching this video I'm still scared to take the bolt apart because I can't find any information on how to put it back together. Any tips?
Hi Grant - You inherited a masterpiece. Take the bolt out of the rifle by depressing the trigger and holding it back, then pull the bolt out. In front of the bolt handle is a long, oval piece which stick out or up closest to the bolt handle. Push the part that sticks up down and turn the bolt handle clockwise - assuming you are holding the bolt with the bolt face pointing away from you. You will see the lugs rise slightly and then the firing pin and spring will slide out. To reassemble - do the reverse. Make sure you catch all the lugs in the collar just forward of the bolt handle. If one or more lugs are sticking out then take the firing pin out again and make sure the lugs are all in the collar before turning counter clockwise. Hope this helps. It is easy, elegant and fast.
Hi again Grant - I should add that this is not one of those bolts that is very difficult to get back together and easy to mess up. Go ahead and give it a try.
" Is it the best locking in the world ? Maybe not." And that's the principal issue. While it's a superbly made example of a unique and clever design, what we want---especially with high-powered magnum calibers---is SAFETY and reliability. For bolt-actions, that translates to Mauser 98 and Mauser 98 derived actions and variations with fixed, rigid, multiple lugs. COUNTLESS rifles employing that field and battle tested concept have been used for generations. Smoothness of function isn't an issue with well cared for mechanisms in most cases. It simply isn't an issue for most users. And, the chances of a jam are less with an action which is not so tightly fitted. The Sauer NEEDS to be kept clean. Also, isn't that a push-feed bolt face ? Also, the scope mounts and iron sights can come poose from a lot of high-recoil use. So, a collectible it is. But for actual use in a variety of sometimes tough and dirty environments, I'll stay with the traditional design. There is wisdom in the simple saying: If it aint broke. Don't fix it (or remake it) ! Thanks for the video.
+116509909095873988076 Thanks you for this very interesting video with an example of non military gun based on a flapper locking design(Friberg 1870). I see non military flapper locks rifle first time. All can find info for mass produced military guns based on this design like DP, RPD, and DShK(in active service) machine guns and G4, G43 rifles. Do you have another rare rifle based on flapper locking with such good machining? What is your personal impression in part of reliability and safety for such small flaps?
Hi Denis, After years of use and not a single issue with the locking system in the Sauer 80 and 90, I have to view flapper locks as reliable and strong. There are many opinions to the contrary but I have no evidence to say there is a design flaw. Any bolt action can be made to fail - any rifle or machine of any kind can be caused to fail - but in use as intended - I see no problem with the locking system.
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My first rifle was a Sauer 80 in 7mm rem mag. my great uncle bought it back in the 70s and now its my favourite rifle to use, i can operate it almost silently and its just way smoother than all my 98s
This is the video that started it all. I typed smoothest bolt action in the search bar and the rest is history. I've been following every video since 1900 followers. Bolt actions are the reason I joined. Your content is invaluable to me.
I am humbled by your words. God bless you.
1975, leslie edelmans gun store on Long Island, 16 years old. The salesman behind the counter handed us a Colt Sauer to try, I will never forget the experience. A 350 dollar rifle, 3x the price of a Remington at the time (Model 788), he pointed the muzzle up, unlocked the bolt and we watched the bolt SLOWLY back out of battery. NOW I understand Why, thanks!
Hi Ed - great experience to share - those Colt Sauers are legend. I doubt there has ever been a better made factory rifle.
I bought matching Colt Sauers in 1984 for a hunt in Wyoming. A .243 and a .30-06. The actions were amazing. And both rifles would keep three shots inside a dime sized group at a hundred yards. The finish and the wood were amazing on them. The downside? They were too damn pretty to put them in a scabbard on that horseback hunt!!!
Yes Doby - I know what you mean. My Colt Sauer 80 .270 has been on many hunts - all without leaving the comfort of padded accommodations in the comfort of my vault. I call these "armchair hunts." The rifle is so pretty. I'll have to use your system.
When I was in college I worked at a gun store and one day a fellow came in and traded a Colt Sauer in on something else, I dont remember the model or caliber of the rifle but I did notice the Blueing on the rifle and how nice it looked. One night I was working the gun dept and had a little time and I saw the Sauer sitting there and I took some serious time to look it over. The first time I opened the bolt to make sure it was empty I could hardly believe how smooth the bolt was, it was absolutely incredible how tight and just glass smooth, I grew up shooting Rugers and Remington 700s plus a plethora of others that I dont remember but this one was amazing. The wood to steel fit and finish were also dead on the nutts and the blueing was a deep as the old Pythons used to be and just perfect in uniformity! The checkering followed the same extremely high standard of workmanship! I dont remember what they had on it for a price but do remember it being higher than normal. I have owned some extremely reliable, accurate and reliable rifles before the this one was a pretty big step UP from anything I ever owned!
You're right Karl - incredible quality in the Colt Sauer, Sauer 80 and 90, the corresponding Carl Gustaf rifles and the FN Sauer variant - they were all 10/10. Thanks for the note.
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns Can you tell me how Colt and Sauer ever got together to build these guns? That is something I never heard about?
I own 2 sauer 90s myself . Both in classic fullstock version or what we in germany call it Stutzen . 1 in 308,win and the other in 9,3x62 .
Keep up the good work !! Love your videos .
Greetings from a german guy in Norway ;)
Vielen Dank! Your Stutzens are superb and the 9.3 X 62 especially scarce. I handled a .308 Stutzen - fast to point - ideal. I'm looking for one. I hear great things about Norway and hunting there! Best to you!
I bought a Sauer-90 in 30-06 back in 1989.
Superb rifle.
Lost track of how many deer I've taken (100+), as well as several pigs and coyotes.
Colt imported many before, called Colt Sauer,they are very nice to find around.
Used my Sauer 80...bought new in 1981.. on most big game in Canada. 7MM Rem. Mag with handloads using Norma 170 grain PPC with slowest burning powder at the time H870. Been a great rifle and never let me down. Good review... Have never really trusted safties on any gun and with the Sauer I can chamber a round with the trigger pulled. Gives me a loaded cartridge but mainspring not under tension. Just open and close the bolt and the gun is now ready to fire. Little noise on opening and closing and safer for carrying. Thanks for the vid...
I have a Sauer 90 in 30-06 that I use every time I go hunting. I have never had a failure or hiccup of any kind. This is a very well made rifle with reliability to match.
I'm with you - easily one of the best. Sad to see it out of production.
incredibly high quality rifle, if you have a chance to look at one, do so! the lux variants are even more impressive with superb wood, gold trigger, jeweled bolt. the locking lugs wont go anywhere, rumors get spread by people that can't afford them and have nothing else better to do
I agree Zanas - the Sauer 80/90 are superb in every way. My Sauer 80 in .308 is exceptionally accurate and everything works with extreme precision and smoothness.
Great Video, I couldnt`t agree more. I use my Sauer 80 everytime I go out hunting and also on the range. Never had any issues or problems. It has such a smooth action. Best regards from Germany
Hello Florian - an incomparable action and rifle. Only from Germany.
Kaliber?
The S80 I own is my goto hunting rifle. Made approximately in 1972 West Germany and it still shoots very well. The bolt itself can be disassembled in a second for cleaning. The bolt is what is called a non-rotating bolt where only the back end of the bolt relates. There are minor flaws with this bolt mechanisms. In my rifle, and most, there is minute case stretch. Why.. I believe it has to do with the slight movement in these three locking lugs.. not 100% sure. But still this Sauer S80 is my favorite rifle.
I also have a Heym SR21 which I will be using soon. Like you had shared a little (actually a lot) on the evolution, functionality, and popularity of the Mauser action. The Heym SR21 also has a Mauser action
. However, what Heym did was rework this action with fitting and polishing for their rifles. Hence this Heym SR21 has a smooth action function and feel. ALWAYS enjoy watch your informative and inspiring videos... cheers
After watching a few of your videos, including one on my favorite rifle the steyr model M, I had a feeling you would surely have a Sauer.
This is IMHO, the most beautiful/innovative
production rifle, I have ever seen. It would be my all time favorite....if it was available for a South paw.
Hence, the Steyr is. I surely would Have a Sauer as well, we're I not wrong handed.
Another great review of what looks like a bolt that even I could-maybe-cycle. Thanks very much for sharing this! All the best to you!
Hello! Super to hear from you!!! I like the Sauer 80/90 a lot - as you can tell.
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns I'm looking to buy a sauer 200. I'd like to add an extra magazine. Do you know if any other models are interchangeable. I cant find any online for the 200
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Great video! I remember when Colt sold them but I had no idea how the lugs were designed.
Now discontinued - these remain one of the finest of all time.
The intention of the bolt locking system is to keep ignition shock to parts at a minimum by allowing the recoil to travel through the bolt to the THREE lugs evenly since it can be machined very precise vs milling the inside of the action. Another plus is the fully shrouded bolt head which also allows perfect forward mating of the bolt to the barrel. A very strong and easy to maintain system.
Thanks Davis, Such a fine action. I was just looking at my collection of them over the weekend - I especially like the short action models - sad that they discontinued them all.
I love my Mauser action rifles. Nothing is better or more dependable than controlled feed bolt action. I have a K98 7X57 and a Husky 6.5x55 SE. I also have a short action Mauser that I built. It is 30-30 Win. I also have a couple CZ 527 Mauser carbines. A 7.62x39 and a 22 Hornet. I am giving most of my rifles to my son. I will keep my 22 Hornet, 7.62x39, and my 30-30. I do really like 6.5 Grendel too.
Excellent - every single one.
I have a Model 90 in 7x64. I love that rifle. Even under the severe handling of 'machine gunning' rounds on driven boar shooting it has never failed to lift and load or eject a case. The trigger is superb and the set trigger is benchrest light when needed. Most guns I own are come-and-go rifles but the Sauer I will not part with or part-ex. With somewhat inexpensive Sellier and Bellot ammunition my rifle will print 3/4'' inch 5 shot groups all day. Matched with a Swarovski Z6i 2-12 scope it is my go to gun for any European quarry. if anyone finds one of these for sale they are well worth the money and higher grade rifles make wonderful heirlooms to pass down the family line.
I agree with you 100%. The Sauer 80/90 is a magnificent rifle and it will take a long time for Sauer to come up with anything close. The current offerings from Sauer are excellent, but routine bolt actions nonetheless - no matter how well made. The Sauer 80/90 were unique, imaginative and superbly made. Glad you reminded me how great they are. Thanks.
Such as the craftsmanship they were all hand made this is probably a reason they needed to discontinue to manufacture such beauties.
speaking from the top of his head as I think this gentleman is he speaks so natural and always to the point and what a joy to watch!
My privilege - thank you for your kind words.
J.P. Sauer & Son, a "West" German company, also was contracted by Roy Weatherby to build his magnum rifle line during the 1960-70s. I can see the connection in design, especially the stock dimensions pertaining to these rifles. Extremely well made of very high quality materials.
Thanks Denis - I know a couple of fellow collectors who only collect the German Weatherby's - the US and Japan models are not inferior as far as I can tell - they just like to collect the German models. Some of the German models do have a wonderful understated European stock though. All the best to you.
I have a Sauer 82 it has a 2 piece stock aluminum receiver and set trigger. You push the trigger toward and it becomes about4 ounces! It's in the book world of guns!
Thanks for the review! Very well done. I have 2 of the Colt Sauer Rifles, a .375 H&H new in the box and I have a .270 win. that is in like new condition fired less than 100rds. Thanks again nice seeing these rifles.
Amazing. The 375 NIB is worth a fortune. Good call. The .270 is more common - as you know - but still in the up elevator - price wise. Not that we are in this for money; but liquidity is always nice. Anyway - the Sauer and especially the Colt Sauer is a bankable asset. It will be a long time before a rifle of such mechanical precision and engineering and assembly brilliance appears again.
USOG I agree. These old guns are a work of art!
Great video. I am getting a mod80 in 458 win mag next week! Cant wait to shoot it. They are superb rifles.
That is a scarce rifle Roan. I owned one years ago - it was marketed by Colt and had a bubinga wood stock - which you probably know is a strong, heavy, African wood. The rifle was remarkably accurate. Even at 200 yards the group looked more like a 75 yard target. I guess those big, heavy bullets know where they are supposed to go. Anyway - great buy.
I have one that is passed down and I’m trying to learn as much as i can about it
One of the best bolt rifles - now discontinued; certainly top quality. Some people collect only the Sauer 80/90 and the Colt and Carl Gustaf branded rifles - as well as FN.
I learned something about this gun today. I was one of those who thought that it could fire without the lugs being engaged.
I have a Carl Gustaf 3000, I believe that it is the same as sauer 90. The action looks the same and it operates the same, it's in 30-06 and I love it. I hand load for it and I can't see any big case stretch 😃it's just perfect. The best pig slayer I have
You're right. I have the same rifle. There is no better rifle. Still undervalued as many don't know
Again, thank you for the insight into various gun designs.
Thank you pseudo; your support means a lot to me.
I’ve got a Carl Gustaf m3000, it uses the same parts but assembled and sold by a company named Husqvarna and I like it very much.
Very rare on this side of the pond - every bit as awesome as the Sauer. Good on you.
Thanks for an excellent video! I’m new to hunting and from Sweden and I found a Carl Gustav 3000 which should be almost the same as the Sauer 90... I’m a little bit worried about the stories I’ve heard that maintenance is especially important with these rifles! Is it possible to clean the trigger mechanism -if necessary- on your own, or do you need to send it to a competent gun-smith? And what is the preferred cleaning method for trigger mechanism and bolt? Cleaning agent and oil! Thanks again!
Is it African Red Bubinga wood? I have the Grand African.458. What a beast. This is a great video. Thanks .
Would be interesting to compare the smoothness of this against Tikka or Bergara, they're buttery smooth too.
I have all of those guns and the 80/90 are twice as smooth as the Tikka or Bergara rifles
The stock on the 458 win Mag is African Bubinga.
Also, the bolt actually physically retains the bolt by physically moving retaining mechanisms against the receiver kind of like a door stop. The strength would be the compressive strength of those captive retention blocks. Unbelievable actions, and the stocks, 1989, 1990 were matte finish and again, palm swell, tapered forearm and elevated cheek rest for a scope. Oh and a set trigger! On all except .270 and 30-06.... I don't know why.
Thank you Breaker - you are one of my favorite motion pictures.
hard to beat the brilliant novelty of these sauers, whether the 80 or 90. maybe the mauser 66 with the telescoping bolt and switch barrel, or the rarified german guns you have reviewed. if you're still in the market for something special, buy one of these if you can find it--with no regrets. of course a mauser 98, especially in the 8mm mauser should be the foundation of all informed collections....
That's fine advice Greg.
What brand are the scope mount bases on your rifle? I bought a Carl Gustaf version and it came with Weaver bases, yours are so more streamline looking.
Hello, Those are EAW bases made in Germany. Available at New England Custom Guns.
Hello... could you also do a review of the Sauer 202 Classic some day?! Keen to hear how you feel about that one... thank you! Best regards...
For sure! I had a 202 Forest take down in 9.3X62 - very fine rifle.
It's a beautiful rifle, but I have to go with Occam's Razor and stick with the basic principles set forth by Paul Mauser when it comes to turnbolts.
Once again another wonderful video.
Beautiful rifle. Very informative. Thanks!
I love these rifles
I just inspected the rifle after I picked it up. It’s in flawless condition and has taken over top spot for the prettiest rifle in my safe. The bolt is indeed the smoothest action of any of my guns with my CZ 550 American with a Mauser action in second.
I did notice something odd about the Model 90. There is a little silver screw that goes through the action just behind and to the rear (10 O-clock position). I was wondering what it’s for? Is it to vent gases in the event of an over pressure?
I’ll see if I can attach a picture.
Hello T-Dawg, Congrats on the purchase - an incredibly well made rifle. I checked my rifles and there is a loaded chamber indicator on the left side of the front receiver ring - but you may be referring to something else - I'm not sure. I took my 9.3x62 to the woods and shot a 3 shot group at 100 yards that would usually associated with a match rifle. Mind you, those big bullets usually like to follow one another. All the best.
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns I think you are right. It must be the loaded chamber indicator. I've never seen a chamber loaded indicator on a bolt action rifle, so that's what threw me off. I'll mount a scope to mine and take it to the range to see how it shoots, but don't think this is a gun I'll take hunting because it's just too pretty. :) I've got other, more practical, rifles I'll use instead.
I bought a Carl Gustav 3000 from a gun shop for $620.00 had a cracked stock ,but still useable ,which is a pity as it has nice wood ,the other thing, when you take it off SAFE ,it wont fire unless you Lift and lower ,the bolt handle ? something to do with the button on the bolt handle , there's a review of the Colt Sauer in Stuart Otterson's books on rifles, there is a bunch of Colt Sauer's for sale on Guns Int and the moment ,but big $
Great buy
can you tell me why the carl gustaf 3000 has the sauer logo on it? Did they make the weapon together or how is it?
The Sauer was imported to Sweden and branded Carl Gustaf - the King of Sweden. If you happen to own a Carl Gustaf 3000 - you own one of the finest rifles ever made. Some say the finest.
Would love if you could do a review on the Colt Lightning rifles! The small medium or large frame! The large frame are super rare though.
I love to reload but mainly for my handguns, my ARs and my BR rifle. For my hunting rifles I really don’t shoot them enough to need to reload for them though I have in the past. Same for shotguns, if I still shot trap and skeet I would reload but I no longer do so the few rounds I expend each bird season doesn’t justify a Ponsness-Warren. :)
Same here Kenneth - except I only reload for the strange cartridges - wish I had more time....such is life.
USOG that makes perfect sense. My BR rifle is a .300 Borden Caribou and is basically a .300 Wby Imp. I can shoot Wby ammo through it to fire form the cases but obviously I have to reload my fire formed cases. Jim Borden cut my resizing die with the same reamer he cut my chamber with. It’s a real shooter. If you’re ever looking for an action to build a rifle around you couldn’t go wrong with a Borden.
Also available as the Colt Sauer - "Sporting Rifle" and Carl Gustaf 3000
All great : )
I wish you talked about how to assemble the bolt and how to adjust the hair trigger!
Hi Rodolfo - It's not too bad on this rifle. I checked mine and there is a small screw facing down which can be turned to adjust trigger pull. I had to take the trigger guard off on mine. The bolt I have not taken apart. Thanks for the note.
How are the lugs pushed out into place to lock, and how are they drawn back into the bolt body to unlock the action?
The bolt handle turns what amounts to a long cam inside the bolt body. As the cam turns the lugs are forced out and when the bolt handle is lifted, the lugs are forced to pivot back into the bolt body - flush - so the bolt moves in the receiver as a pipe in a tube. Hope that makes sense.
Great video, now I need one. Thanks:)
Appreciate the good words! There are still a few around - sometimes Gunsamerica or Gunbroker etc... Good luck - they are gems
I recently bought a JP Sauer and Sohn Model 90 and cannot find any information online to tell what year it was made. I even contacted JPSauerUSA (part of Blaser USA) in Texas, and they said it was made before they began importing them and that they don't have any information. It sure would be nice to know something about what I just bought, if you know of any resources to point me to it would be helpful. Thanks!
Hello T-Dawg - I'll check with a couple of people that know more than I do. If I find out anything I'll get back to you.
Thanks! The serial number is K18xxx
Hi! I follow u from India... the iof .30-06 is based on sauer 202 blueprint... in fact early rifles in late 2005-6 had barrels imported to india from sauer co. I own an early iof...... can u do a video on sauer 202?? Also i would request you to do a video on marlin .22...
Hello Fowad - I'll get a Sauer 202 in the studio as soon as I can - I had one - very fine rifle. The action is heavy due to a lot of steel; which is a good thing. Mine was in 30-06 and was the 202 Takedown - so I had a second barrel in 9.3x62. Which Marlin would you like to see a video on?
I recently purchased a CG 3000 in 6.5x55. They claim to have an adjustable trigger. Mine is set at about 3.5Lbs and has red paint on the adjustment screw. Do you think it is possible to lower pull weight to maybe 2.5 Lbs?
Great work as always!
Hi Mike - It is possible but I would leave the trigger as is. Painted screws often mean the consequences of turning them may not be what one expects. Of course I could be wrong - but someone put the paint there for a reason. IMHO : )
Sir, I am looking to shoot my rifle without drilling and tapping, it has no sights, any advice on sights I can put on that will not affect the metal?
I read once that one of the criteria that Paul Mauser had was that the average German Soldier had a 3td grade education. I’m sure that wasn’t his only criteria but it’s axiomatic that simple is often best.
I like that. I wish they used that criteria for my computer. I have a complete Grade 2 education when it comes to these wonderful computers. : )
USOG Oh I doubt you’re incompetent with computers. I can tell that you’re a very intelligent man. Perhaps you use the same secret weapons I use when it comes to smart phones and computers, my sons, daughters-in-law and my oldest grandson. :)
Wow, I love all your videos, but......it just gives me many more reasons to buy more guns~ lol..Thanks again~!
Such positive words - I'm even more inspired! I'm going to turn on the video production afterburners. Thank you so much.
So it locks in the rear? Front locking lugs make the accuracy much better. Compare the Mauser to the Lee enfield, not close to a Lee but there are similarity’s.
Hi Briar Nuce - You're right - front locking is the mechanically best way to go. Still, there is an art to gunmaking and something different can be enchanting. By rights, we'd all be using Mauser 98s only.
I personally had a problem with the safety, that can accidentally auto - angage, under recoil and/or moving the bolt. That obviously can be dangerous or at least uncorfortable. This can be fixed, but I find the safety not well engineered, and possibly positioned in a wrong place. For the rest, the gun is outstanding.
Just subscribed, I'm thinking you're here in Canada since I saw the old Canadian Tire plastic caliper slip into shot. I've been shopping for a Sauer and with the advent of the S100 Classic XT I think I'll take the plunge. Would love to here your opinion.
I'll find one soon for a review. Thanks for the suggestion.
The more I look at the Sauer, it's almost an improved Arisaka!
Interesting thought.
I cannot seem to remove the bolt the way you did.
Do you know of any problems that can cause this? I got the rifle handed down to me and can't really ask anyone.
Hello - sometimes you have to open the bolt and pull the trigger a lot harder and hold it back than one would think to get the bolt out.
Hello sr. I want to know if you can inform me about this point. I do own a Sauer s 101, 308 caliber. I did buy this gun on 2017 year. The action part is made in steel or in a alloy aluminium piece? Thank you very much and very beautiful yours videos. Juan, from Argentina
Excuse my bad english.
Hi Juan - Your English is fine. The barrel is heat pressure fit into the receiver without threading - which usually means the receiver is steel. Please check with a magnet on yours and let me know. There are different models. All the best, Mike
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns hello sir. I did just what you adviced me. I did put a magnet piece on barrel and on the action and ir works . The piece was catched on both piece so I discovered with your help that Sauer S101 2017 year producto serie A is all steel made. Thank you sir.
Until next and Best regards
Juan, from Argentina
I like blued and wood stocked rifles and shotguns.
Classic combination: practical, of lasting value and not military - many people agree with you.
You may have made the right choice by selling your 458. I knew a man that had been to Africa on safaris many times and he told me he had 2 stocks on a colt sauer 458 splinter because of the recoil. I've owned 5 but the most powerful is my 7 mag. A lot of diff between it and the 458 I'm guessing 😊
Hi Nico - that is interesting! They used Bubinga wood - as I'm sure you know - on some African stocks. Maybe not a great idea. Anyway - I try to avoid recoil - so I like your cals. better. Even 7 mag is more than enough for me. Cheers.
are you familiar with the carl gustaf 3000? i am thinking of buying one and would be greatfull for any advise you may have about this rifle
Hi Colin, The Carl Gustaf 3000 is one of the finest rifles of all time and is the same as the Sauer 80 which became the Sauer 90. These rifles use a bolt which has locking lugs that cam in and out of the bolt body - which means that when the bolt handle is lifted the lugs recede into the bolt itself - making bolt movement effortless and entirely smooth. Every action type has stories about it and some people say the Sauer 80 lugs can seize in place due to dirt or too much pressure. I've owned several of these rifles and have never had any issues of any kind in many different circumstances. Hope this helps.
I forgot to mention that Colt sold these rifles for a few years under their brand. Also, the machining and fit and finish are as good as it gets. I'm looking for one in .308. I had a .458 with a Bubinga wood stock which was the most accurate .458 I've ever owned. The Sauer was discontinued last year or so.
i have owned several you dud not mention the chamber indicating pin on the side or the holes in the bolt to releive pressure if a primer fails or that the trigger is fully adjustable hard to describe the action it is something that has to be felt
Thanks David - sorry I didn't cover all the features and thanks for pointing them out.
Hello sir, what kind of value do you put on a 7mm Sauer 90 in "very good" condition. Plain unfancy wood. Bluing mostly intact, slight high edge wear.
$1200. to $1400.
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns you've been very helpful with my questions. I appreciate it.
My privilege Aamir. Best of luck to you.
One more question, I know I've been peppering you, do you put the Sauer 80 at a higher value? In very good condition?
another great video on an odd rifle system.
BTW, they are locking flaps
Thanks Jeffrey!
I have an opportunity to but 4 colt sauers for 6400. They are Calibers are
243 win mag
25-06
22-250
7mm
Do you think it's a good investment?
Yes - assuming they are in very good shape.
USOG thank you.
USOG I did the deal. All four appear to be mint condition, maybe never fired. The 243 has gold lettering. All of them have custom factory mounts put on at the Sauer factory. None of them have any engraving. If you're interested in seeing photos let me know.
Colt used to import/sell these. Fine rifles from what I have been told, but way out of my price range.
Are modern Sauer rifles any good?
They're excellent.
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns thank you!
ive ben looking for a good breakdown on the colt sauer rifles and not many videos exist! none on par with your videos! plz maby cover this one day?
Hi - Good idea - I'll get to it
great video sir, not made anymore like before . l look buy new sauer 101 gti in 7rem mag , best regards sir
Thank you. I wish new meant "better." The 101 is a fine rifle though!
USOG thx sir , l wish l born before because off that rifles, l watch all your video best regards sir
Just to be clear the Sauer 80/90 has zero safety issues with regards to the locking lugs...
Thanks TLE - that's what I think; somehow a rumor started that goes differently - but I've never had or seen anything to validate a problem. Seems fine and excellent to me.
where would one acquire one of those beautiful sporterized mausers you have in your magnificent collectionÉ
Hello my friend, Guns America sometimes has one or two under custom rifles, Cabelas Gun Library, First Stop Guns, and any of the English gunmakers - H&H, Westley Richards etc... and the fine US : Griffin & Howe, Halowell & Co....there are many. Hope this helps and good luck!
FWIW, Mauser is still making their legendary model 98, direct from the factory in sporter form if you're willing to spend the money for one - www.eurooptic.com/Mauser-M98-Standard-Expert-30-06-M98SEX306.aspx
Yes, I would *love* to have this little beauty, but well over $8K is a major kick in the pants!
I think they called the 458 the Grand Safari or Grand African.
Thanks Nico - you're right - Grand African according to my collector friend.
Do inter arms mark x review
Hi Jim - I did - it is in the video list somewhere. I reviewed an Interarms Mark X full stock; it might say Zastava - the maker. Hope you find it. Fine rifle!
the rem 870 has 1 locking lug like that
I had to think about it - but that's right; the one that goes up is similar. Thanks again.
I just inherited one of these rifles and after watching this video I'm still scared to take the bolt apart because I can't find any information on how to put it back together. Any tips?
Hi Grant - You inherited a masterpiece. Take the bolt out of the rifle by depressing the trigger and holding it back, then pull the bolt out. In front of the bolt handle is a long, oval piece which stick out or up closest to the bolt handle. Push the part that sticks up down and turn the bolt handle clockwise - assuming you are holding the bolt with the bolt face pointing away from you. You will see the lugs rise slightly and then the firing pin and spring will slide out. To reassemble - do the reverse. Make sure you catch all the lugs in the collar just forward of the bolt handle. If one or more lugs are sticking out then take the firing pin out again and make sure the lugs are all in the collar before turning counter clockwise. Hope this helps. It is easy, elegant and fast.
Hi again Grant - I should add that this is not one of those bolts that is very difficult to get back together and easy to mess up. Go ahead and give it a try.
USOG Thanks for the info!
" Is it the best locking in the world ? Maybe not."
And that's the principal issue.
While it's a superbly made example of a unique and clever design, what we want---especially with high-powered magnum calibers---is SAFETY and reliability. For bolt-actions, that translates to Mauser 98 and Mauser 98 derived actions and variations with fixed, rigid, multiple lugs.
COUNTLESS rifles employing that field and battle tested concept have been used for generations.
Smoothness of function isn't an issue with well cared for mechanisms in most cases.
It simply isn't an issue for most users.
And, the chances of a jam are less with an action which is not so tightly fitted. The Sauer NEEDS to be kept clean.
Also, isn't that a push-feed bolt face ?
Also, the scope mounts and iron sights can come poose from a lot of high-recoil use.
So, a collectible it is. But for actual use in a variety of sometimes tough and dirty environments, I'll stay with the traditional design.
There is wisdom in the simple saying:
If it aint broke. Don't fix it (or remake it) !
Thanks for the video.
There is an African 90 in .458 Win on a particular **broker website that has a Bubinga wood stock.
+116509909095873988076 Thanks you for this very interesting video with an example of non military gun based on a flapper locking design(Friberg 1870). I see non military flapper locks rifle first time. All can find info for mass produced military guns based on this design like DP, RPD, and DShK(in active service) machine guns and G4, G43 rifles. Do you have another rare rifle based on flapper locking with such good machining? What is your personal impression in part of reliability and safety for such small flaps?
Hi Denis, After years of use and not a single issue with the locking system in the Sauer 80 and 90, I have to view flapper locks as reliable and strong. There are many opinions to the contrary but I have no evidence to say there is a design flaw. Any bolt action can be made to fail - any rifle or machine of any kind can be caused to fail - but in use as intended - I see no problem with the locking system.
Thank you so much!
Not as smooth as my SIG SHR!!! Do a review!
Okay David - I'll find one : )