One paragraph of Obamacare saved this boy’s life
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- Опубліковано 1 бер 2017
- A baby was born 6 days after an Obamacare regulation - and it made all the difference.
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Timmy Morrison was delivered by emergency C-section, weighing in at 3 pounds, 9 ounces. Doctors put him under anesthesia within a week and into surgery within a month. Some of the contents of his stomach sometimes made their way to his lungs. Workers in the intensive care unit frequently needed to resuscitate him. He arrived seven weeks premature - but, in a way, just at the right time.
Six months before Timmy was born, President Barack Obama signed a sweeping health care law that would come to bear his name. Six days before Timmy’s birth, the Obama administration began to phase in a provision that banned insurance companies from limiting how much they would pay for any individual’s medical bills over his or her lifetime. At the time the Affordable Care Act passed, 91 million Americans had employer-sponsored plans that imposed those so-called lifetime limits.
That group included Timmy’s parents, whose plan previously included a $1 million lifetime limit. This Obamacare provision took effect September 23, 2010. Timmy was born September 29. On December 17, he surpassed $1 million worth of bills in the neonatal intensive care unit. He didn’t leave the NICU until he was 6 months old.
If Timmy had been born a week earlier, his medical benefits could have run out while he was still in the NICU. But that didn’t happen. His insurer covered everything. The NICU bills his parents save total just over $2 million (they come out to $2,070,146.94, to be exact).
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Having a sick child is hard enough without having to worry about how you're going to pay for it.
Anne-Catherine Mulhern just don't have kids. The world is so intensely miserable, not to mention utterly meaningless. Stop having kids and letting them suffer for no reason.
did they know their child was going to suffer like he is before birth?
Jake Richardson - he was premature! No one expects a premature baby!
+Mr Robot so ..you just want humans to stop having kids and go on to extincion ?
Toushiro1010 I think human consciousness is a tragic misstep in evolution. We became too self-aware. Nature created an aspect of nature separate from itself - we are creatures that should not exist by natural law... We are things that labor under the illusion of having a self, that accretion of sensory experience and feelings, programmed with total assurance that we are each somebody, when in fact everybody's nobody... I think the honorable thing for our species to do is to deny our programming. Stop reproducing, walk hand in hand into extinction - one last midnight, brothers and sisters opting out of a raw deal.
WTF is a lifetime cap??? "Sorry, you can only get a certain amount of sick." ...????
Pretty much
Lifetime limit is pretty much saying that someone can be so much financially heavy for the insurance payers that their life is not worth the money anymore.
Yağız Efe Demirel that’s sick and twisted... I’ve never been so happy we have the NHS in the UK, I guess it really matters where you’re born, even if you’re from a first world country...
That and most minimum wage jobs require you to only have 3 sick days a year. And no paid vacations.
Ps, no I am not proud to be an American.......
insurance companies are.. well... companies. so they're losing money the more they pay for those they insure. thus they try to put as much exception and clauses to make sure they pay the least amount possible for their consumers. its a business. we're the commodity.
every vox comment section is just full of non americans being confused about americans
David Hernandez ah yes, the us being the richest country in the world definitely means it can’t have the best social programs and universal health system. Shut up and go play golf boomer.
A A he wasn’t commenting about the fact that America is the richest or saying that America didn’t have their problems all countries do but he was stating that he thought that all Vox comment sections were non Americans. Well whether that is true seems unlikely but I don’t think if you disagree you need hit Ok boomer cause you got nothing to say. Point is that you don’t need to assume every detail just because you disagree.
@@leosaloranta6752 I think that person was saying that to some David.
Nah it’s about Americans ranting off about how trash Donald trump is
Ellie M that’s because *I’TS TRUE*
While Obamacare isn't perfect, it has saved lives. We should keep it and then expand on it.
Jameel Simjee Exactly. The whole “repeal and replace!” chanting and yet, where’s that at?? My gut tells me Trump would’ve just done away with healthcare and let everyone fend for themselves in the best interest of powerful insurance companies.
Jameel Simjee I agree but, there’s still some changes that need to be done
David Smith what?
David Smith just reading that sentence disgusted me.
David Smith you’re not getting robbed, for the most part its the children. if they do repeal and replace obamacare, then life will be the only thing these kids will be robbed of
The very idea of paying for healthcare just blows my mind as a British student. How can anyone, in their right mind, say " We will not help you because you cannot afford it". It is simply inhumane
ICrazySkills The truly scary thing is that the Tories are working on making us like the US health care wise
SunShinesToday but it's done automatically through taxes, it's not like we get a bill from parliament every month
ICrazySkills Same, German student here
ICrazySkills - yes. America is very Dickensian at the moment. You should see the comments from people who have better lives. "The poor should work harder. They should get better jobs." The lack of empathy and elitist, austere mentality is sickening.
Us progressive Americans feel the same way.
When she said $773000 for the first two and a half... I was expecting her to say YEARS not months. Honestly crazy to me, I appreciate I am so privileged to live in the UK and have the NHS available to me.
Yep even our F'd up NHS is doing better than Americas (hopefully not soon to be gone) healthcare system.
yah we don't like super high taxes to pay for a tiny minority:/
Except they're not really super high because everyone chips in, including healthy people, who don't tend to chip in when it's optional which is why health insurance was so expensive in America initially.
iona This is why I say that we need to end the benefits program here and instead Grant pensions to the elderly alone. Your cover your own ass with healthcare through an insurance company, which cannot go any higher than a certain percentage of profit set by the government, regulate it.
Regulating it with a percentage of profit wouldn't work, they would still need to charge lots to cover the costs if all of their customers are sick, even if they're making hardly any profit it would be expensive with no healthy people being insured.
"I'm sorry, you can't live, that is too expensive"
QUICKLY! POST A PICTURE OF FREEE HEALTHCARE WHILE THE AMERICANS ARE ASLEEP
@@YukariAkiyama I DONT HAVE ANY
Even in Mexico, all this would be free. Healthcare is a right
Dafne Gorostieta one time, I told a person that healthcare was a human rights and they blamed my “belief” of that on my upbringing. I then linked to the UN page that states all the human rights and sure enough - healthcare was there.
🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌
Cough cough france
cai wilkie how bad is it in France... 😮
@@venangoproductions amazing
Oh, what a sweetheart.
It's crazy to me that Conservatives are always preaching how fetuses have 'a right to live', but want to take away the help families like this rely on so that their kids *can* live. You can pick a stance, but at least be consistent.
There are many kinds of conservative people, I for one really don't support abortion and I think EVERYBODY has the right to access basic needs with ease.
Addon its not a child, it doesnt even produce brainwaves. Literally not even as self aware as an ant.
"I'm pro-life" Yet conservatives support torture, the death penalty, hate refugees and free healthcare.
It will never stop astounding me how hard conservatives will fight for fetuses to get born, but then won't spend a single ounce of effort on the already living children suffering in poverty and foster care. Abortion is a tragedy for everyone involved, but it's one that has to exist as an option so long as pregnancy cannot be perfectly controlled. If anti-choicers would make more of an effort to increase access to birth control and supported the disadvantaged children already living and breathing outside the womb, I would actually respect their movement.
A lot of them are religious, and religions are obsessed with sex and control of women. They care about fetuses and they are against contraceptives because that is what they are ALWAYS taught of in Church. If the churches focuses on teaching about helping the poor, the orphans, the refugees and the needy, then these religious conservatives would start to realign their focus. But, as I said, the Church is obsessed with sex and control of women. That is why in my opinion, religion poisons everything. Instead of teaching their congregants on values, they focus on specific actions. Instead of teaching forgiveness and empathy, they teach about abstinence and the evil of abortion.
Thank you President Obama! You are a hero to so many people.
And a failure to the many who are forced to get insurance despite not needing it
Great moves Ethan! Keep it up. Proud of you.
Including me
... and a disappointment to everyone else
thaitichi and the killer of so many more
1 million dollars in around 3 months for healthcare is unfathomable to me, there is no way that that is near the price it costed the health care providers to take care of the boy. The amount that big health care corporations are profiting on the weak is disgusting, they seem to care more about making a lot of profit than actually helping people.
duh, it's called capitalism
well, its not just the care but the cost of developing the treatments...
The NHS in the uk seems okay idk american hospitals are so so far from efficient, in the uk with a unified health system different hospitals can pay really different amounts for different things e.g. 50 gloves in 1 hospital might cost £1 but in another £15, small things like that can only be worse in America.
Quinten Cambridge
u'd be surpised. MRIs alone can cost about $3000. 1 million in 3 months is very consevable because of the level of test and equitment they would need
One of the main issues is the American culture of suing doctors and the recieving millions in compensation.
You are not only paying for your treatment, you are also paying for any possible lawsuits.
Free health care is a human right. Thank god I’m Canadian
Me to
Not anymore if the cons get their way. Ford is set on private health care and turn Ontario into this. Get voting I'd you don't want this to happen in Canada
Why do you deserve health care
It isn't free. Taxes cover the premiums for a universal insurance policy. It's always a good idea to keep in mind that someone is paying. In the USA a lot of people have insurance coverage through an employer. They do not necessarily see or feel the cost. If a system is abused whether private insurance or universal healtcare, somebody is paying and ultimately affects everyone.
@@billyosullivan4514 better question.
Why don't you?
America is the only developed nation without free healthcare.
And when everyone else agrees and you don't..
Your the one with the problem.
So not only health insurance in the US costs ridiculous amount of money but you also have a lifetime limits, once you pass it your insurance company will leave you to die.
Tell me more about the benifits of private healthcare...
The government should provide available healthcare to all of its citizens as a right.
mark111112222212, healthy citizens are productive citizens. 🖒
mekrystle exactly! Republicans are always complaining how this will cost us, but I'm pretty sure everyone declaring bankruptcy or firing will cost us a whole lot more when a crash is caused
Ponderingtaco, I agree. And to consider the benefits to the economy when people are healthier and taking less sick days at work because they're able to get preventive medical care.
mark111112222212
Not as a constitutional one though.
mark111112222212 Healthcare is not a right. It's a service. No one has the right to the labors and services of another person.
I won't make dark humor comments today
+That Guy 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
That Guy bro damnnnn
proud of you
nevermind
Aldo thank you??
Three words:
DON'T
REPEAL
OBAMACARE!
I think we should repeal but not all parts
John Gibbs maybe don’t repeal the entire thing, and then work on another thing that works, and then repeal.
@@andrewzhang1290 I agree with that
@@randomcommenter8873 Yeah....
ChicagoLTrain115 that comment did not age well...
Watching in 2020, I'd like to see Vox come back to this story, and what happened.
i really hope he is still okay.
@@emilysamanta8022 yeah it's not like he can just stop being sick.
why do people want to undo Obamacare?
Dinesh Janapati First. It came from Democrats and Obama Second; Cuz they hate poor people
@Some One They don't want to "waste money on the poor." Clearly, these people don't understand that sometimes there are cases like the one in this video in which there really is no other option. This boy and countless other people in situations like him deserve the right to live their lives, it's just rich people with absurd amounts of money don't want to spend any extra on someone they don't care for. They ignore that not everyone has millions stacked up in their bank because they have the privilege of never needing to worry about emergencies.
Thankfully Republicans failed to repeal Obamacare with a crucial vote so I’m hoping he is doing well.
#ThankYouObama for Timmy's life.
#ThankYouTrump for wanting to replace obama care because it hurts more people than it helps!
Matthew Hubbs Well obviously this video shows otherwise
#Matthew Hubbs troll
danial tahir #ThankYouObama For adding to the debt instead of subtracting from it, and thanks for supplying the Muslim brotherhood and shaming the victims of the 9/11 attacks. You are a monster. I hope you get whatever is coming to you.
John Johnson hi, I'm not from America. I don't even live in America. I just like this channels informative videos.
I'm a doctor by profession and I just thought I should thank obama for making this piece of legislation that helped in saving this kid's life.
Thank you.
Good day.
Why is there a lifetime cap in the first place? Isn't that the point of life insurance?
Derek Keng murica
Cap on healthcare not life insurance. You would have reached the end of your life when claiming life insurance anyway.
Derek Keng
I'm not going to join the discussion
but, how you can make profit as insurance company if you have Timmy in your yearly expenses?
Honestly, I didn't think about that factor. Without any regard to any numbers i would assume that the remainder of people who aren't that affected pay the insurance company and it will compensate for that?
All4thlulz Because you also have Billie who pays but never gets sick.
The insurance companies should never have had the authority to decide when to cut off paying for treatment for anyone. It was a disgrace that it was ever legal. The idea that Trump and some members of the GOP want to return to those days is horrifying. Insurance companies should not get to decide if someone is worth paying to keep alive.
@Hussar Lobbying should be banned
Warbird Gaming and how would you change a politicians mind on something you disagree with?
@@bonelesscommunism4031 Umm.. Fair enough, Maybe not ban lobbying but, make it so that if you do that, The politician has to say that, he took the money from the company or companies?
Warbird Gaming they can’t directly take money from lobbyist/unions, that would be illegal, the money can be used on their campaign though.
@@bonelesscommunism4031 Well, then the politican should say that.
Just take a second to imagine if Trump was the one with a tube in his throat.
I wish.
I got a small loan of a million dollars
I will build a throat, a new throat, i build the greatest throats. Believe me.
he litterally said what trump said? and what he said isn't even ultra conservative. get your head out of your ass
I'd be concerned and worried
My baby was born at 24 weeks, weighing just over 1 pound. We spent 112 days in the NICU at the end of 2014. She is a "million dollar baby" and worth every cent. I'm beyond thankful for the ACA; that we did not have to think twice about her coverage or cost in the middle of life and death moments in her first few months. Legislators, please understand that these are human LIVES and livelihoods at stake and not just health care numbers to dismiss!!
mekrystle how hypocrital, when abortion is still a major issue, and kills MORE lives
Nathan Emmert - wtf are you talking about. The US bombing 7 countries in the last 15 years has killed more lives than abortions in America. Why don't you go complain to the government about that?
Nathan Emmert, you lost me. What's hypocritical about heathcare?
I'm sure more would be lost anyway through backstreet abortions
Nathan Emmert. Hypocritical is saying that every human life is important when talking about abortion, but not caring when talking about people who are already born.
As a Brit who's lucky to live in a country with universal healthcare, I still don't get why the US don't have it. I understand that Americans might not be ready for it yet but don't repeal Obamacare, IMPROVE IT.
Ego - any social aids are an instant branding of "communism" - it's almost like an autonomous whiplash every time I've brought it up in convo beit with personal drivers in Cali, groups of strangers at Burning Man, etc. As an Aussie I just don't understand, it's so systematic in their culture - guessing the whole cold war history thing maybe? Again, it seems to be a real ego reaction every time I've brought it up. It's almost like a parallel of the racism between the older white generations of Australia & Asians, they have a real historical thing etched in them coz of the Japanese war history.
+G Rodriguez you'd think now that the White House is in bed with Russia, the whole "BUT COMMUNISM" thing would be toned down a bit.
Not really. Communism in Russia ended decades ago, It has been replaced by fascism (Which is perfectly acceptable to Republicans.)
That's like saying 1 + 1 = 2 but okay. Maybe it's like not being able to smell your own shoe or bio lol
Zoronii - I think it's a culturally systemic thing though, so maybe it'll die out with generations. Unfortunately like the racism issue here in Australia, it's often behaviours of ignorance validated & passed down from parents to kids, so it'll always have a platform.
The fact that some people had the stomach to press the dislike button just blows my mind
Have you heard of Republicans?
@@jh_monty8888 Rather than Reps, it's the group of people who think giving to society is "stealing".
Autumn, the Boulder Biter taking money from people is stealing, regardless of if it benefits society. It’s still theft.
@@ratrandy7526 Benefits severely overwhelms 'theft'
Quantum Proton i very strongly disagree
Thank you Obama. I know you weren't able to do everything you wanted for us, but you still helped those who needed it the most.
Exactly what a society is. The strong help the weak, so we can be strong together. Together we stand, divided we fall.
To that family. With the current political climate, I would think most seriously of moving to a country that provides universal healthcare
Like Canada? It sounds great but it is a shithole. Imagine living in a country where more than half of the work you do goes to the government in the form of income taxes. You would expect to get something out of it, right? It takes months to even see a doctor in Canada.
oiyutigh I would rather half my money go toward insurance for everyone, including my son; rather than lose insurance, go into massive debt, and potentially lose my child. Bit hey, that is just my opinion
oiyutigh I'm not sure about you, but the longest I've ever had to wait to see a doctor was a day, and that was because of an unforsceen emergency and I could wait. I mean, sure doctors don't grow on trees, but months is just hyperbolic. Also, for the amount of income tax you pay, its bracketed. As in you only pay the ridiculous 50% on anything you make OVER about $200 000ish. As in if you make $201 000, you pay 50% tax ONLY on that extra $1000. So yeah, no.
Where do americans get the informations that half of the money we make go to the government? like seriously are you guys that misinformed about us?
We pay more taxes of course but i'm glad to pay it and ill continue to pay because when i came back to Canada, i was 16 and by myself with a deadly chronic disease and the system helped me. I was giving a chance to live and to get an education.Now that i'm a productive member of that society, i'm more than willing to pay taxes to help those like me.
And most Canadians feel the way i do.
I completely agree. I'm Canadian and I am glad my taxes are going towards healthcare for everyone. I take comfort in knowing that when I give birth, I will be covered, If I break my leg tomorrow, I'm covered. If I need to see a doctor for a prescription, I am covered. Whether I'm working or not.
While the one million dollar cape is cruel
How does health care even cost 1 million dollars !!!! Hospital and pharmer company's are charging far to much
remember how the epepen was going for so much money! but it only costed dollars to make
robbie498 using an equipment in a hospital costs money.
Timmy spent 5 months in the ICU. That is a lot of specialized staff and tests to pay for. But you are right, healthcare costs in the US is much pricier than in other developed countries.
Evan O - As it does in every other country. Nowhere does anyone pay anything remotely close to what Americans pay. Your statement is idiotic.
A Nony Mouse in Canada you could spend 5 years in ICU ( obviously you wouldn't) and still pay the same amount of money in your taxes as everyone else
They should probably move to a better country if the lifetime limit is reinstated.
Alpha Kenny Body but its still possible
There he would have to be a citizen of that country
They’d have to get citizenship or at least permanent residence, which would take months or even years before they start getting the benefits.
Wtf is wrong with you. No one should have to do that!
no country is going to take that family in. Countries like Canada with universal healthcare don't allow/want crazy expensive/sick people to immigrate. If that was allowed then the worlds sick and poor would just flood your system and you'd go broke.
I'm so glad to be in a country that's had universal healthcare for 79 years now.
Where do you live, I wish I could live there. Canada?
Their name is typical kiwi so I think it's new zealand, that's what we call them in Australia
Yup glad to be a New Zealander.
@@jetblackhair92 Kia Ora g
i still cant believe trump is America's president
Bongo Gamer, it's like a horrible prank that went too far.
Bongo Gamer You better start believing it
i still cant either, but it is amazing
Bongo Gamer Usa is the best reality show right now. It's like watching a drunk guy trying to lace his shoes, it's funny at the start but it quickly becomes pathetic
Bongo Gamer "President Trump, two words that'll never go together kinda like fuckable clown" - John Oliver
USA healthcare when you get sick: *your free trial of living has ended*
i swear to god if i hear one more person try to tell me that we live in the greatest country in the world...
US is not a country. It’s a business
How do the people at those insurance companies sleep at night?!
Probably the thick walls in their mansions keep the guilt away.
By blaming the victims for not being rich enough to afford millions of dollars in healthcare by themselves
@@SaraH-jn5db And don't forget the republicans and the very wealthy.
in their thousands of dollar beds. none of these company owners ever see the people they make suffer. so...
They're on pills
the most devastating thing about this story is thinking how in a way, they were one of the lucky ones. they had a good healthcare insurance policy from their employers, and had their kid just after life time limits were banned. my heart breaks for those with such conditions whos parents dont have great insurance, and limits on top of it
Get an NHS look it has its problems but it's some British people couldn't live without
Charlie G my lil bro needs it thank god ee live in the uk and I sometimes get asthma attacks
he’s so precious. he’s here for a reason.
So why did it cost $1,000,000 for a few months? Insurance is important but someone's getting paid for this and they are getting paid too much.
It's not incredibly expensive rare metals or something which can only be manufactured on the dark side of the moon. Plastics are cheap and doctors don't cost this much.
Expensive medical bills are a direct result of the private healthcare system, really.
Steven Clarke medicine and equipment is very expensive
Steven Clarke research costs billions and billions of dollars so how else to make ur money back
Corporal Bambi The costs in the US are ridiculous. My mother has private health insurance in the UK amd she got a knee replacement at a private hospital with a 1 week stay in a private kind of fancy room, daily visits from the physiotherapist and 2 anaesthesiologists due to an existing health condition and the sent her away with a 2 month supply of medication and dressings and new crutches which cost a total of £6000 which is approx $7500. I googled it to check the price in the US the average is $50,000 thats almost 7 times the price
traplordpug Maybe if we lived in a 3rd world country but we don't, we have plenty of access to manufacturing that keep the producer's cost low. and in terms of medicine ppl HAVE to buy it so the companies will always make their money back. the issue is the monopolistic policies these medical companies are allowed and always choose to uphold. they have too much control.
The idea that someone born with a condition like that should be forced to pay such extortionate fees just to stay alive blows my mind as a Brit. I will never understand people who say that the American system is better.
Phoebe HB American dicks would blow your mind too
so would our archetecture
so would our gop
so would pur culture
so would our military
not much like that happens there tho
just free stuff for poor people and the queen is all
How can an hospital bill become so expensive, I would say there lies another problem that the US really has...
Normally I would defend the US, but I can't argue with that
@@Yash-lx5xr "Normally I would defend the US", yeah American pride, agree with that, but sometimes, the USA system is WAY TOO flawed to even begin to see how to defend it.
@@autumn8920 are you from America or another country
@@Yash-lx5xr The USA.
I never thought I would say this in my entire life but....
_damn_ I wish Hillary Clinton was president.
Justin Howell I dont
U would be dead by now, genius. Oh wait, you are already saying it would be better as she was a president.
Justin Howell *Damn* I wish there was a nuclear war right now.
Justin Howell well welcome to the good side
So is there really any purpose this kid should live? I mean basically he is just a waste of money.
He's so beautiful.... and people don't understand /realize how important Obamacare is especially to certain people. This is so scary how ACA now is placing people and families at a disadvantage who need the care they need......
FYI: ACA IS Obamacare
Marco Massa I know it is...but I am talking about the version Donald Trump and Paul Ryan are trying to peddle out
Legend of a Reverse Cowgirl if they keep preexisting clause and no lifetime limit health insurance will be super expensive. No healthy people will be on it that's why there has to be mandate.
I can understand if Timmi's parents kill somebody who is trying to kill Timmi. It's self defense.
It will be replaced.
if you disliked this video please say why in the comments.
I did dislike it. I posted a comment. Now it's gone. Not going to write out the full argument again, but in short:
All such social programs of a state compete with each other. The money going to this kid is not going into public housing/schools, loans/grants for business startups, soup kitchens or any other such state funded program. It is inefficient (as cruel as that sounds), since you could have helped far more people with the same amount of money.
MilkaCowie so just let him die ok I wonder if you would think the same thing if he was your child
Princ 1_1 i am sure that if you had the choice to choose your child over many other people, you would selfishly choose your child.
Of course my position would be different if it were my child. I don't think I would manage to be even the slightest bit objective. I think that's a bit besides that point though.
Imagine you had exactly 1 million to spend per year. Would you rather spend it on keeping this child alive, or would you use it to keep 10 people with similarly severe, but less expensive illnesses alive?
That is my core point. There is limited money and this is (in my eyes) an excessive amount spent on a single person, when there is already a lack of money in several other areas. Reducing spending, raising taxes etc all increase the amount of money available, but do not change the fact that the amount is limited, while the ways you can help people are pretty much limitless. That means sometimes you need the hard decision to not help - even if people tell you that you are a heartless bastard when doing so.
MilkaCowie, the medical industry makes BILLIONS every single year and you're worried about $1mil over five years for a kid? I'm sure more money is spent on shitty hospital cafeteria food each year.
I live in Australia and for my whole life healthcare has been free. If your sick you just go to the hospital and get looked after. America is so weird.
Sparkee Too bad I can't afford to come to Australia. I swear our country is getting more and more backwards.
It's not free other people pay for it
@@NM-gr7cs yea. we pay for it collectively as a society than we use it for free. obviously.
Tell that to the golden gate bridge, or American idol, or the moon, oh wait, you can't cause you've never been there
@@Yash-lx5xr You value american idol over thousands of lives?
There is no sane reason why the numbers are this high. Thats the bigger issue. Look up medical insurance and the ChargeMaster. 'Adam Ruins Everything' is a good place to start, and then do secondary research.
Miss L Adam ruins everything, isn’t perfect, even though some people act like he is all knowing, so good job for recognizing that.
@@elenagibbons4719 he never said he was all knowing. Thats what sources are for.
Yeah I watched that episode and a great place to start your research is by going to the sources they put on their videos
This video is crazy. I know this is about health insurance but those parents are way stronger than me. Stuff like this scares me into not having children because I don't know if I can be this strong.
Grnd_ctrl, you truly don't know what you're capable of until you're faced with it. Don't let the uncertainties of life scare you though, especially for something as wonderful as having a child. I have ptsd from the birth of my micro preemie and the weeks that followed when we didn't even know if she was going to live, but now she's an energetic 2 year old and I can't fathom existing without her.
mekrystle Thank you, that sounds amazing and congratulations for the daughter. I wish you luck :)
mekrystle i just wanted to say god bless you. This is the first UA-cam comment to make me cry. Thank you for having the courage to take care of your little girl and try to give her the life she deserves. Please don't ever give up.
Matthew Hager, thank you so much for that! Love to you, I appreciate the support.
I was born 3 months premature.I just couldn't wait to come out back then but now I feel like I should have just stayed there.
You know, as a little child I actually envied my mother's friends a bit (the whole family moved to the US). Now? Not a thing. I'm chronically ill and for my condition alone I need to see a doctor at least twice a year. I do pay for that tho, but that's my choice and it's convenient (very convenient). However, the overall annual cost of said visit and my medicine is lower than 100 USD.
Can we get an update on Timmy, as of 2019
please
Still waiting in 2020
And in 2021
I honestly think we should be lowering healthcare costs and not raising spending limits, often the cost of medical care could be a fraction of the cost but the problem is hospitals have become a business and should be government run as well as having government run medical suppliers. This kid had over 1 million dollars spent on the first 3 months of his life and it doesn't look like he will ever outgrow his medical condition. This much money should've never been spent and it's the reason health insurance is so expensive.
the medical care was what kept him alive, are you saying he should have just been let die?
A child's life matters but we already have way too many people on this planet and spending millions of dollars on one person just to keep them alive isn't worth it.
@@smilz7470 Spending hundreds of millions of dollars*****
I hope he truly makes it. I wish the best for his family. When I was a kid, my nephew was born with problems similar to this kid.
My nephew had problems with his throat and wasn't able to eat from his mouth, otherwise food(milk at that time) would suffocate him by going in his lungs. He also had problems with his eyes and was almost blind, couldn't talk and couldn't play or walk. He was only able to move around and make some sounds but that was it. The scene where they showed Timmy's tube in his abdomen.... tears started flowing and old memories started to come really fast to my mind, my nephew was also fed by a tube and a syringe in his stomach. Seeing all the medical stuff, all those things laying around.... it felt like seeing my older brother's house.
I truly wish the best for him and his family. I know the struggle, I've personally seen that routine they were talking about at the end of the video.
It's been 9 years since Deancent(my nephew) passed away.... only 5 since her mother committed suicide.
Stay strong Timmy. I hope your family will cope with your situation. If the family sees or reads my comment... keep your chin high, be happy to see him smiling and moving around, I don't know what I would give in order to see my nephew smile like your kid does. Know that you're not alone and don't give up.
I still struggle with the pain even if a lot of time has passed. I know what you're going through.
Wish you the best, Paul.
Paul Dawson Cuarto I couldn't imagine having to deal with that as a kid. You'd have to be really strong to deal with the loss of your nephew and his mom. I hope many good things come your way. Have an amazing life man. No person should have to suffer like this.
Paul Dawson Cuarto I am so sorry I understand your pain I believe that your nephew is an Angel and God in His abundant love has him and his mother together in heaven I am going to pray for you and your family we need to stay together so trump and his people don't take ACA away, that will be so damaging to millions of people I hope you and your families find peace in your days
He’s an ADORABLE kid! 😇☺️
I can’t believe we replaced a charismatic black guy with annoying orange
As a conservative, taking away obamacare in situations like this and many more in America is hypocritical
Dr. Alan Grant isnt as bad as abortion
I'd say it's equal. A unborn baby and a sick 6 year old are both life and are equal in terms of worth
haha thanks I guess?
You give me hope that partisan lines can be ignored in favour of doing what's right. If the objective of government and those who govern is to help the people and provide the best possible outcomes, how can the Republican party actually think that what they are doing is in anyone other than big companies interests'?
It's beyond reprehensible what is happening right now in America in regards to these issues. As a republican you need to make your voice heard to stand with those whoa re fighting to protect this legislation.
All the best from Australia.
I miss when Conservative meant someone like Eisenhower and progressive meant someone like Roosevelt.
watching the boy struggle while they were replacing the tube really broke my heart
kill em.
You also need to factor in hospitals billing insurance companies 400$ to change an iv fluid bag (just to change it). And since current regulations force insurance companies to pay out these outrageous costs with no limit is what makes premiums so high, 40k to 50k a year on middle income families. The same thing happens to the education system, student loans are basically guaranteed to people and tuition fees are rising because of that. Don't hate the player, hate the game. Good luck fixing corporate greed in the US.
then why aren't we discussing raising taxes? an insurance company is a business, if they insure a bunch of people who aren't healthy there won't be enough premiums to pay out in claims. the whole point of an insurance company is to insure healthy people without pre existing conditions so they can pay when it's claim time. this is why premiums increase due to the amount of claims, so instead of turning to a business to solve the problem why aren't we talking about what we can do? like raising taxes for universal healthcare?
Camelia Pacheco thing is, America could easily cut the national defence budget by $15.9 billion and it wouldnt even make a dent in the defence budget and use that money for universal health care like the NHS here in England. Or they could do what the UK does and do sepreate tax towards a NHS style in america when my earnings are taxed it comes out in 2 parts “national insurance” and “income tax” my national insurance is then used to pay for the NHS
@@rxss6154 watch out when i bring that kind of argument to a american they say mexico will invade the usa because the army will collapse
rick johnson they’d much rather see someone die and get some oil than they would help their own citizens... one of the biggest GDP and they don’t even have a standard healthcare system.
Problem is i think its way to late now for Americans to implement universal healthcare for example, big pharma would block all the bills for it etc. Companies run American policy and its stupid in my eyes
rick johnson even if we cut the military budget significantly, we would still have the second largest military in the world.
I really liked this video but me as a german, i cant understand how you can be against a universal health care for everyone since i had this since ever!! I hop the americans make up their mind and will use Obamacare! God bless and bye
Henri Cornelssen the "freedom" to choose to pay for limited or no healthcare has been successfully used as a propaganda campaign by the money sucking middle men called insurance companies.
ACA is the step in the right direction towards Universal healthcare but people think that taking away ACA is the right thing to do for the country, all they are doing is saying "we need to go back to page 1 because the only way we can move forward is by taking 5 steps back" and its ridiculous.
Henri Cornelssen You don't understand, Obama care is still flawed. Many of us are fined if we have a "high income". Thus, the so called "fined people" have to pay in order for a smaller percent of people to survive. I honestly think Obama care has great parts, but there are also flaws. I just wish US had a good universal healthcare system.
Henri Cornelssen Obama care also forces people to have it. Like if you have a good healthcare, you have to get Obama care and throw away your good healthcare or else face the wrath of FINES.
@Epicjorjorsnake Jojorsnake That is not true at all. Any good healthcare plan that met the minimum requirements could continue under the ACA, so long as the insurance company didn't cancel the plan for their own reasons. It was only the bogus plans, where people would pay and still not be covered, that were struck down.
This video was so touching that it made people tear up and click the dislike button on accident!
Chidubem Ezinne nope
Nathan Emmert so Nathan your explanation to why you hate this video is because it's not about the lost lives of abortions, but when it's about healthcare of a living person who can't get healthcare because of caps in lifetime policy, doesn't that sound relatable there both human lives so why hate on healthcare as a subject. It seems to me that you don't understand a human life clearly if you (in a another post) say to look at abortions lives matter more than a person who likely the parents had to decide to kill or keep, even when the baby will cost millions of dollars.
Your argument sounds stupid to me, these parents had to most likely say should we abort this baby or keep them, that is a hard choice and they kept Timmy even when he costs the family everything because they love him but can't get the healthcare for a certain amount of time during the dismissal of the affordable care act for something better, the more time they spend with the affordable care act not in place, the more lives will die.
The new trump policy will keep saying replacing for something better, but will they actually replace it on the same hour and second that the affordable care act will fall, these are the things people worry for and also abortions occur when for example; rape, already dead, major health issues, etc. abortions don't happen because someone said oh they are a girl or a boy lets kill them because I wanted a he or she.
that makes me want to dislike it more because you could have done somthing else then typing that out
I’ll gladly pay more tax to keep people alive. If I get free medical care too it’ll pay for itself with 1 hospital visit.
I just can't understand why a country would want to spend billions on building a wall, and cut billions on saving lives.
I've done my boarding school, and my undergraduate in Switzerland and in England. I come from a privilege Republican family and I don't understand how come all developed countries have insurances for everyone but us... We are so focused on controlling women's sex life, abortion, birth control but we are not ready to help a family to raise their children? we are not willing to have our fellow Americans covered by an insurance? I just don't understand how we are so selfish. We just want the baby to be born and then let him die if the parents are too poor. Or let people die because they are too poor... The ironic thing is without universal health care it costs us more and most of people in need and in poverty are in the red states...
Alexandra V The U.S is 27.3 trillion dollars in debt.
And yet we continue to get money lent to us; that alone should show that country debt isn't the same as personal debt.
Alexandra V I HAVE A PLAN!
1:cut military spending
2:use the money to give universal healthcare
3:we'll . . . YOUR DONE!
You said "I don't know how we can be so selfish," and I have an answer that most Americans don't want to hear.
America was entirely founded on greed. White Americans didn't exist til the greediest members of European society forced their families to give up their lives, safety and friends to make a perilous journey across oceans and even more so dependant on how far west they moved when they got there, all based on the vague possibility of getting rich off of resources like gold and jewels. They killed the natives because they wanted to own land rather than share it. They enslaved people for personal gain. Created racist laws and sexist laws and anything else to oppress people not originally in charge or rich.
Sadly, 99% of America is born and raised by generations of greed that birthed the worst kind of capitalism. It's genetic. It's tradition. It's life. I'm sorry, but history shows that modern America was almost purely created to oppress the poor in ways no other first world country (with more expansive history) would ever even attempt to put it's civilians through.
The past has damned you... only the future can put things right. Fight for your right as civilians to become the land of the free you claim to be.
1 million dollars omg! But how much of that money was needed for research and production and how much money went to some billionairs and CEOs?
Engineerdude that's so true. most of the spending for large pharmaceutical companies is on advertisements. upwards of 80% of expenses.
I Live in Saudi Arabia and the government takes care of all citizens medical bills.. its sad that the US, a developed first world country has this kind of problem where citizens get bankrupt because of medical bills!
Evil people just won't understand what it means to be human. We must take care of each other. Help the sick and the hungry. If you believe that's a luxury you're not willing to pay for, if you believe those people should just die because they're not strong enough, you're nothing but a pile of crap.
Bruno right, like what if you were the one that had this condition. you would want to live right?
Greedy why do you deserve healthcare and my tax dollars
The REAL heroes? Timmys parents.
not realy ! obama .is . they did nothing speical than any other parent.
msms47 obama isn't the one taking care of him though
yajAsusZen Only the policies Obama made are, though. Without them, his family could not afford to care for him.
For having shitty genetics. Yeah, they're heroes alright, and the human race is going to way of Darwinism.
MisterSinister your an ass!
I just cannot understand the mentality and morality of those who haven given a Thumbs down to this video. We regard Free Healthcare as a "right" in my country. Just like for Education.
What do you mean? This video brings the severity of this issue straight to millions of Americans who watch Vox. I don't know why you WOULD dislike a wake-up call such as this one, actually. Maybe you got confused since you live in Australia. Just kidding lol, but seriously, why'd you dislike this?
Those are HUMAN rights, recognized and stated by the United Nations. However, the United States refuses to institute those ideas in our country.
@@PigeonFlare he said the exact opposite
Health care should be free. A life is a life. No matter what financial situation you are in.
Man US medical system is really expensive. 1 million for 3 month treatment! I'm glad that I live in India.
Umm yeah, this comment didn't age well....
TIMMMAY!!
oh my
Bad call lmao
IsThatEtchas Good one dude
A.T.K - what do you mean? Timmy is one of the coolest kids in South Park. This little Timmy looks like such a fun and cool kid too. =)
umiluv indeed, but keep in mind, he used to be a gang member.
what used to happen to families like this ... they go bankrupt, lose all their assets and are then forced to quit their jobs so they would be eligible for medicaid. I know people that did this. What would you do if this was your child ... would you live in poverty? Should you have to live in poverty?
I would be dead if I didn't live in Canada. And that's a fact. Denying healthcare to every human being is denying a person's right to live. It's saying to a person who just lost their job or to someone who is homeless that just because you don't have money your life isn't worth saving. That's the problem. The fact you have to have money in order for your life to be worth something. America boasts their generosity in helping countries struck by natural disasters however they won't help a person in their own country even if they were dying.
Tell that to the golden gate bridge, or American idol, or the moon, oh wait, you can't cause you've never been there
It's almost like America doesn't actually want people to live. Poor people atleast..
OH REALLY. THEN WHY DO WE SPEND 17.7 PERCENT OF OUR GDP OR 3.6 Trillion DOLLARS ON WELFARE AND TAKING CARE OF POOR PEOPLE
EVEN AFTER CORONAVIRUS' HUGE TOLL ON THE ECONOMY AMERICA WILL STILL BE RICHER THAN ANY COUNTRY
@@Vii905 you may think that our military budget is a lot, which it is. Over 600 million and hitting 700 million this year. But in total this military budget is only 3-4 percent of our GDP. Israel spends more percent than America. I guess they have an excuse. Russia spends more percent. Sure, I guess Russia spends a lot because Ukraine or maybe they just want to have a good military. Saudi Arabia spends 8% of their budget because of 'Yemen'. Why don't you shout at them.
@@Vii905 did you listen to what I said. We only spend more money on our military than any nation but that is because we have more money than any nation. With your logic I could say that the US citizens are the richest citizens on earth. But there are countries with more money per capita. Since I'm using your logic I would ignore that and say that the US citizens have the most money in the world
The video is 7 minutes long and 5 minutes in there're 25 dislikes. I really really dont understand people and their hate.
some ppl already have Pre Hate . they will hate any vox vido ! speically if the title is about poltics . and they just log in to dislike and leave .
i my self have similare hate . not to poltics but usuly to Unbocksing channles and daram channles . but i learned to pass it . and now i just Block the channels that i do not like . with addon .-
I'm glad this happened. I don't care about my deductable and such. My mother had a $1m cap when she had cancer. We went bankrupt and eventually and couldn't afford treatment and passed away in 2010. Took my 9 years to get my credit back in order. Obamacare may have its faults, but It's cases like this that make it worth while.
I didn't expect this to make me cry. My heart goes out to this family and others in this situation. Fortunately for me I live in the UK where we have the NHS. Health care is no joke.
I live in Uruguay (a Latin country) and we have free health care, this is so weird to watch...
Tell that to the golden gate bridge, or American idol, or the moon, oh wait, you can't cause you've never been there
Tell that to the richest country with the strongest military and the most billionares.
it's just Crazy that middle-class economies like Kenya have free health care in public hospitals,sure it's not the best but they try.
Eliud njai American conservatives are deeply racist and selfish. As an American it's even hard for me to understand.
Eliud njai Kenya is not a middle class economy though.
Kenia is officially classified as middle income country. They have a GDP of roughly 1400 USD.
If Kenya is middle class then what is Brazil? Plus it is 1400 dollars per year not per month.
When the ad came on before the video, I i zoned out so when the video started I wasn't listening so I immediately thought Timmy was a bum when it said he lived with his parents and sister and I had to remember he was 6 and not 60.
"Real change begins with repealing and replacing Timmy's health coverage" -Donald Trump
Timmy just melted my heart nd his sister too.. I wish them both all the lovely things that life could possibly have. Timmy's smile just made me so happy.. Thanx to him
Legit the ONLY reason for keeping the lifetime limit is because of money and greed and THAT is disgusting
better2gether agreed
We need an update! As a non-american I don't know about the legislation in the US right now, and would love to know how Timmy is doing!
Why does every video i watch, when a new good thing is implemented, it then immediately says how Trump is planning to take it away :/
hmm. I wonder why
It’s so hard to raise a kid let alone one with a chronic condition. May god bless their family.
I don't care, repeal it.
And replace with Universal health care.
*Read before you respond*
I feel bad for this child, but because of Obama care I haven't had insurance for awhile now because we're not poor enough to get Obama care and we don't have enough money to get any other insurance. Some kids who are In a situation like him but and don't have the right amount of money are also suffering, Congress needs to find a way to get *everyone* health care not just the rich and the poor everyone.
True
Yeah the system screws over those who are in the middle and slightly under the middle. This is why the Democrats are fighting for medicare for all. A system that would treat everyone the same similar to Canada's and UK's systems.
But some negative affects of universal heathcare is loss of companys which means loss of jobs which means that unemployment will go up
John Gibbs the mass needed is the same, if one doctor is fired because people dont go the this hopsital, another doctor is hired in a public hospital.
My cousin was born with some of his organs outside of his body. I live in Canada where healthcare is free, thanks to that he was able to get the surgeries he needed to survive.
When I was young, very young, I thought America is the greatest country in the world. I wished to come and live their once I get older, but now I think I will move to Europe...
I’m not saying the NHS is perfect but it’s much better than bankruptcy and worrying how your are gonna pay for the ambulance trip or hospital stay say if you are having a heart attack or a stroke.
This is why I look in disbelief at those who say universal healthcare will ration care. The lifetime limits are rationing care. Denying people the ability to buy insurance because of pre-existing conditions is rationing care. Pricing insurance out of reach for millions of Americans is rationing care.
As a caregiver to my son with extra needs, my heart goes out to this family.
Brought me to tears when i saw the innocent kid having to go through so much so young
How can anyone be against this
why should i have to pay for this boy's healthcare as a taxpayer?
Timmy is adorable! And the recycling themed birthday party stole my heart.
When they were replacing his breathing tube... it gave shivers down my spine... Stay Strong Timmy...Stay Happy !!!
It seem ridiculous how expensive is the healtcare in the US. There should be regulation (limit) on the price of medical services, drugs etc. No hospital should scam people off their money.
The U.S. is embarrassingly far behind compared to other developed countries.
*scoffs in British*
Seriously though, at least children should get unconditional free healthcare no matter what
can't image fearing debt, on top of a sick BABY
@Nick Arjoma I didn't mean anything political by it. I know the NHS isn't perfect and there are children who are unfortunately failed by the government but I do think Britain is at least a bit better than America, in that there is some form of free heath care available - as flawed as it may be.
He’s so brave when getting his throat tube replaced, it looks so painful 😣
That little boy is so adorable; it broke my heart when I saw the scene where the parents changed the tube he uses to breathe. It's completely and utterly obvious that no child should have to go through such a procedure, but it is even more so that no child should be left to die.