VR Through The Lens (photos & video): Pimax 8KX, 8K+, 8K, 5K+, Valve Index, HP Reverb v1, HTC Vive

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  • @SweViver
    @SweViver  4 роки тому +33

    Love it or hate it. A re-run of some through-the-lens photos I made back in late 2019, including a through-the-lens video of Assetto Corsa with Pimax 8KX. New TTL videos and photos coming soon!
    Check out more about Pimax on the official website: pimax.com/sweviver

    • @htainlindwa9961
      @htainlindwa9961 4 роки тому

      SweViver we Love it bro! Thanks also for making YouTub vids

    • @_16_bit_40
      @_16_bit_40 4 роки тому +2

      Pimax can never be a competitor to other manufacturers (oculus, htc, etc.) while he has such a terrible pitool.

    • @rotaryperfection
      @rotaryperfection 4 роки тому

      This is the best VR currently in production.
      ua-cam.com/video/UpPY_XNpn08/v-deo.html

    • @htainlindwa9961
      @htainlindwa9961 4 роки тому

      I don’t care about competition, I care only about graphic, but some other one have eye tracking system so that makes it good and I would still buy it because they have better game selections. Now I got Oculus rift s and it’s good and it, I think, allow you to change lenses. Also man, let me ask you a question? How do like that KAT Loco?

    • @RayeSsss
      @RayeSsss 4 роки тому

      With these images it looks like the Valve Index looks better the the Pimax 5k+ while I thought it was the other way around... So @sweviver what is your thought on that.. Also when can we get hands on a Pimax 8KX in Europe / Netherlands? Cheers!

  • @directorscut4707
    @directorscut4707 4 роки тому +48

    8kx is so much more clear, it's amazing. Let's hope Pimax makes progress with their "production hell". Soon there is march and the hype about Half-Life: Alyx might flow down.

    • @zanderperkalator9129
      @zanderperkalator9129 4 роки тому +1

      ordered mine two weeks ago. it comes tomorrow!!

    • @Jay1787
      @Jay1787 4 роки тому +1

      @@zanderperkalator9129 Hi dude, i'm thinking of buying. Can you give a quick reply on your impressions so far? Thanks in advance!

    • @zanderperkalator9129
      @zanderperkalator9129 4 роки тому +1

      @@Jay1787 hey dude just got your notification.... I still love it. I found some counter weights thru a recommendation on Reddit. Really makes a huge difference!

    • @Jay1787
      @Jay1787 4 роки тому

      @@zanderperkalator9129 Is it an issue looking around and playing fast paced games like some other videos suggest? Also what GPU are you running?
      Thanks for the reply!

  • @TheNexusLord
    @TheNexusLord 4 роки тому +62

    The 8KX is looking very much, like what everyone was dreaming of when we supported the original Kickstarter. ;0)
    Shame, that Oculus, HTC, and Valve were content to not really push the technology more than they have. :0/

    • @SweViver
      @SweViver  4 роки тому +10

      Thats what Im saying. Nobody believes be though. But people will see it for themselves soon :)

    • @Nicrolix
      @Nicrolix 4 роки тому +1

      @@SweViver Just the cost and Pimax have a bad launch because kickstarter people not happy :(

    • @dtz1000
      @dtz1000 4 роки тому

      @@SweViver People who bought the HP Reverb don't believe you for obvious reasons. I think they are feeling pretty sick that they didn't wait.

    • @pondracek
      @pondracek 4 роки тому +1

      @@dtz1000 Can you elaborate?
      Was the HP reverb not up to par resolution or comfort wise? Or is ~9 months wait and double the price a reason not to buy it instead of the 8KX?

    • @smartin1333
      @smartin1333 4 роки тому +1

      @@pondracek its 3x the price and maybe a year of wait.

  • @radar-kiwis-canfly-nz3492
    @radar-kiwis-canfly-nz3492 4 роки тому +6

    Excellent, well done Martin and thanks for clearing up with the clarification on the pre-production Pimax testing HMD's. Now waiting for more content from you and MRTV when he can in whatever form of content he chooses as I'm in full support of both you and MRTV. Just a pity it's played out in the way that it has. I've been following both you and Sebastian from down-under in the Southern Hemisphere, New Zealand since I've been watching both of your individual YT Pimax videos for a long time from way back in October 2017, when you were both at the VR Days exhibition in Amsterdam.
    Appreciate that Sebastian is just as eager and enthusiastic about Pimax as you and VRGamerdude Don Hopper. After watching all 3 MRTV, VRGamerdude and SweViver individual channels during the CES 2020 live streaming video coverage. Sebastian MRTV means well and I see it as being just a little bit of a communication break down after his brief 2 day CES 2020 excited short visit earlier this month.

  • @franticsledder
    @franticsledder 4 роки тому +7

    The Elite text comparison part.
    Come on don't bullshit me, the Vive is not THAT bad!
    *Stands up from monitor and walks back a couple meters and looks again*
    Actually it IS that bad! 😮
    Man that 8KX sure looks tempting.. 🤩

    • @laartwork
      @laartwork 4 роки тому +1

      In macro mode everything looks much worse. So you can imagine how good it looks with human eyes. What this needs to show is the FOV. That is where the difference is really at.

  • @thecompulsivecanadiangamer5570
    @thecompulsivecanadiangamer5570 4 роки тому +12

    Wow, desperately wanting a Pimax 8KX. The more I see the better it looks.

    • @maverick2377
      @maverick2377 Рік тому

      Ever end up buying one?

    • @thecompulsivecanadiangamer5570
      @thecompulsivecanadiangamer5570 Рік тому +1

      @@maverick2377 I did actually, have a 8K Plus. Fantastic headset, you need to be a tinkerer though as there are a lot of setting to use to milk the best performance / resolution out of it. Unlike the other HMDs like Oculus, Vive, etc, the pimax definitely feels more like a "developer" headset. Don;t get me wrong though, it is still hands down the best looking and widest FOV of all the companies out there, and I have zero regrets. It replaced all my other HMDs (except PSVR, for obvious reasons)

    • @maverick2377
      @maverick2377 Рік тому

      @@thecompulsivecanadiangamer5570 Thank you!
      I'm going to be getting the 8kX but there doesn't seem to be as much info online about it as I expected to see.
      I specially don't see much info about using the Pimax for VRChat, I don't know if you have experience with that game using that headset

  • @Recycled
    @Recycled 4 роки тому +6

    Wallet feels a little too heavy suddenly.. What a fine piece of engineering!

  • @randallcromer66
    @randallcromer66 4 роки тому +6

    All I can say is WOW. I wish all of the VR industry would use those screen's. The resolution is incredible and It's amazing how good it looks. Thank's for the video, I really appreciate it because now I know what I've been missing out on.

  • @FakeAdminZ
    @FakeAdminZ 4 роки тому +25

    A question:
    Do you think I could get away with spending the kids college fund on a 8kx and a feel three motion chair? They might have to eat gruel for a while too. I could tell them christmas and birthdays are for wimps. Maybe?
    Please?

    • @MrCatlolz
      @MrCatlolz 4 роки тому +9

      Send them to Germany. A healthier beer culture and free college.

    • @AlehandrosArhangelos
      @AlehandrosArhangelos 3 роки тому

      Tell your kids they have to eat lentins for the rest of the year, dad needs some new gadgets.

  • @endaoconnor
    @endaoconnor 4 роки тому +20

    Wow, the 8kx makes my 5k+ look like a DK1.

    • @ExecutionerDan
      @ExecutionerDan 4 роки тому +1

      I dont even have a PC to run vr, much less a vr setup. I'm saving up to build a PC with a ryzen 7 4700x and an rtx 3080 or 3080ti. Then to get the 8kX will cost me my soul. I swear, to get the ultimate experience you need to be rich or something.

    • @ProGen6
      @ProGen6 4 роки тому

      Right and i thought my 5k+ was amazing. Im saving for a full race rig and these glasses with that.

    • @GizmoMaltese
      @GizmoMaltese 4 роки тому

      What's your experience wit the 5k+?

  • @gsuracing9362
    @gsuracing9362 4 роки тому +7

    Pimax 8KX will be my next HMD.

  • @ANJIN79SAMMA
    @ANJIN79SAMMA 4 роки тому +3

    wow martin!!! I always wanted to compare the 8kx to the index and you did it!!! you even threw my HTC vive in there too!! Im sold..!!! great to see you doing videos again - a pleasure to watch

  • @SlakOffs
    @SlakOffs 4 роки тому +12

    My wish list:
    3080ti
    Eye tracking with foveated rendering
    Pimax 8KX

    • @SweViver
      @SweViver  4 роки тому +1

      Mine too!

    • @tinoschumann2339
      @tinoschumann2339 4 роки тому

      Yes, because no PC today can handle the 8KX...and if you buy all that stuff, you could buy a used little car...
      I am a little bit disappointed of Pimax, because they bring out HMD's, but the backers still waiting on the stretch goals...it's about to please the backers, with that the vr community would calm down on them...

    • @MarVFV
      @MarVFV 4 роки тому

      Add 120 hz(or at least 90) to the list!

    • @Skylda
      @Skylda 4 роки тому

      my wish list: the money you spend for this thing xD

  • @astralnut6313
    @astralnut6313 4 роки тому +2

    My 5K-XR looks good to me but from the looks I can't wait for my 8kX. Great job on the video.

  • @zzzzzzzzzzz6
    @zzzzzzzzzzz6 4 роки тому +3

    Colors look pretty great

  • @turkeysandwich2779
    @turkeysandwich2779 4 роки тому +5

    Still rockin the HTC vive, may upgrade some time this year.

  • @TokyoToysUK
    @TokyoToysUK 4 роки тому +2

    Pimax 8KX looks extremely similar to HP Reverb in terms of screen door visibility. I was hoping it would be better than the Reverb. Because the Reverb is just on the edge of invisible but not quite there. Fantastic comparison Sweviver and keep up your great work! We have an 8KX on order. Cant wait.

    • @laartwork
      @laartwork 4 роки тому +2

      They are the same resolution so they should look the same. These comparisons are with the old reverb with the wonky panels so you can see the inconsistency. The improved panels should look better for the Reverb... but it's the FOV where it is night and day and that isn't reflected here.

    • @TokyoToysUK
      @TokyoToysUK 4 роки тому

      @@laartwork We have Reverb 1 and 2 and I think there is a difference between the twi but im not sure if the visual difference was that drastic. Its deffo an amazing HMD and if the 8KX is no worse than it then a lot of ppl are going to be blown away. especially because of the FOV increase as you pointed out.

    • @zackmack7044
      @zackmack7044 4 роки тому

      @@TokyoToysUK how are the black levels with the reverb? Compared to the Index?

  • @tomc1380
    @tomc1380 4 роки тому +2

    Thanks for the video mate. Looks almost as good as my Vive Pro with Etsy Gear VR lens mod, lol! Seriously, I will definitely look at the 8kx in the near future. Thanks again and please disregard all those know it all knockers. Cheers.

    • @JosefK2275
      @JosefK2275 4 роки тому

      I am using VR innovations mod on my Pro...no crepuscular rays, higher definition...it's like night and day in comparison. I feel so bad for the people who haven't modded their Vive headsets. Which brings me to the next point:
      How can UA-camrs continue comparing the VIVE Pro with other headsets without this mod???

  • @dogzer
    @dogzer 4 роки тому

    Very interesting... I will need more info but dang I'm almost sold already

  • @ArminNoroozi
    @ArminNoroozi 4 роки тому +5

    Wish I could do some testing too :)
    Great time to share this video btw!

    • @SweViver
      @SweViver  4 роки тому +2

      I hope to see you soon in Amasterdam again, in February :) Will let you know!!!

  • @Arskatus
    @Arskatus 4 роки тому +2

    Great comparison. It gives good understanding of the clarity of the view. I’d like to see more about how the contrast and black levels are between headsets. I have 5k+ and very much interested if there is improvement in contrast in newer models.

    • @laartwork
      @laartwork 4 роки тому +1

      50% improvement on the panels... but not OLED quality

    • @zackmack7044
      @zackmack7044 4 роки тому

      @@laartwork have you tried an Index? How do the black levels compare?
      I hated the black levels in the Index. This makes me think I should go for the 5K XR, but I'm hoping Pimax release a new XR version.

    • @legendarymark112
      @legendarymark112 4 роки тому

      @@zackmack7044 MRTV said that the Artisan was better in every way than the Index in his videos he did not long ago.

  • @PrettyNeatVR
    @PrettyNeatVR 4 роки тому

    From a distance the 5k+ actually looks very sharp, but lots of screen door. 8kx Looks great!

  • @intetx
    @intetx 4 роки тому +2

    Uff shots fired at MRTV xD
    Very respectful shots

    • @SweViver
      @SweViver  4 роки тому +1

      Just a statement, that applies to both me and the other 3 guys.

  • @R0BCRAM
    @R0BCRAM 4 роки тому +1

    A shame Sweviver hasn't taken the time to update the old HP Reverb images he took when it was V1 and before updates via SteamVR which improved the clarity of the headset. I would wager the 8KX and Reverb are quite similar but the 8KX has a wider FOV and larger area of focus in the centre.

    • @SweViver
      @SweViver  4 роки тому

      HP refuses to replace my v1 with a v2 :(

    • @R0BCRAM
      @R0BCRAM 4 роки тому

      @@SweViver At least you got a V1. I used my own money to get mine. I think your V1 might fare better now with beta branches of Steam VR and Steam WMR. Give it a try although I appreciate getting macro shots of that tiny area of focus makes it more difficult.

  • @fly_8659
    @fly_8659 4 роки тому +2

    2:44 demonstration sold me, it looks like we're getting critically close to the point where we can read with this on. What's next is increasing how light the headset is, so that it can be used as a desktop replacement.

    • @legendarymark112
      @legendarymark112 4 роки тому

      The Pimax headsets are lighter than other headsets lol. that's the funny thing.

  • @ExecutionerDan
    @ExecutionerDan 4 роки тому +6

    Hey Martin, I really appreciate the content. Sebastian's video yesterday was really quite toxic. While sebastian was almost fine, the comment section was actual AIDs. That was the first time I've seen the fact that people hate you. Just keep doing what you're doing.

    • @Lakus231
      @Lakus231 4 роки тому

      since martin works for pimax the hate swapped a bit over to him, there may be other reasons aswell, like he isn't 100% honest but the point is that the company does such a bullshit sometimes, like you saw what they did on sebastian
      like on their website: 8k+ 3840x2160 *2 -still nothing about upscale to read there
      200° fov irritating data - they mean diagonal fov but don't write it, everyone else is using Horizontal who the heck is using diagonal... that's just such a filthy move
      the name 8k... it's not even 8k it's 4k... since one eye is only recieving 4k and you need 4x4k for 8k...
      lying about release/shipping/rewards and all the backer problems
      well... the support of course... and all the other shit they have done, but i guess you already knew all that !?

    • @obserwator100
      @obserwator100 4 роки тому +2

      not true everybody showing diagonal FOV in marketing specs

    • @laartwork
      @laartwork 4 роки тому +1

      @@Lakus231 Index uses their 130 diagonal and never their 115 horizontal... and no one ever criticizes them for that. XTAL announced their 8k which is two 4k panels and you aren't complaining. Pimax is not perfect but since it is the only company run by VR enthusiasts directly from the community and not a giant corporation you think they would get a little more support as David slinging rocks at 4 or 5 Goliaths.

    • @ExecutionerDan
      @ExecutionerDan 4 роки тому +1

      @@Lakus231 the label 4k is inherently misleading. Every previous measurement of pixels on screen takes the second measurement. Like 1920×1080 is 1080p, and 3840x1440 is 1440p. I you want to complain semantics, call it 2160p then. It's called pimax 8k because 3840x2 is basically 8,000. Like stated in the previous comments, the index is 115 degrees horizontal, but you dont complain that they say its 130 degrees.

    • @ExecutionerDan
      @ExecutionerDan 4 роки тому

      @@Lakus231 I dont get why you're complaining about the small things more so than the fact that they're always delaying their products, and how it's going to have been approaching 3 years before the fact the backers will get their 8kX headset. Your priorities are whack.

  • @_Dibbler_
    @_Dibbler_ 3 роки тому

    Thanks for the comparison, I am changing from a Reverb 1 and wondered how the image quality (I like the Reverbs Picture) compares to the Pimax 8K+ and 8KX and this deliveres the answer. It seems even the upscaled 8K+ picture is close to the G1s picture, thats cool

  • @TheExistedHim
    @TheExistedHim 4 роки тому +2

    Very nice.

  • @htainlindwa9961
    @htainlindwa9961 4 роки тому +4

    Not bad but I want to tell Pimax to keep improving graphic through the lenses. Way better graphics though then other VR

  • @PaoloTrianni
    @PaoloTrianni 4 роки тому +4

    Looks amazing.

  • @senhsationalv6278
    @senhsationalv6278 4 роки тому

    Holy crap, that see through-the-lenses is incredible. I don't really see SDE but there are lines in certain parts (could be from the camera itself). But overall impression is that the view is very crisp, clear and details. This is what I am talking about...this headset will help with distances/jagginess when it comes to racing in VR. Thanks for this video and by the way, the music is nice also.

  • @ScubyFlying
    @ScubyFlying 4 роки тому +2

    Very beautiful.

  • @paulpjr3224
    @paulpjr3224 4 роки тому

    Wow the Index looks way better than most of the other Pimax headsets. The only one just slightly better is the 8KX and not by much. I am looking forward to getting one now.

  • @MatthiasNyberg
    @MatthiasNyberg Місяць тому

    WOW! The 8KX is WAY ahead! 😮

  • @JenoSnetrem
    @JenoSnetrem 4 роки тому +3

    Impressive stuff! Though I'm surprised at how little the difference is with the Index in many of the shots! Though the airplane cockpit was actually a huge difference. Thanks for the work on this mate :P (btw still awaiting you on discord lol). I hope I get the chance to really have some time with the 8K-X If you can come to Belgium ^.^

    • @SweViver
      @SweViver  4 роки тому

      Coming online and at home later, these time in the evenings are just messy :)

    • @dtz1000
      @dtz1000 4 роки тому

      The difference looks quite large at 2:40. 8K+ also looks much better than Index there.

    • @laartwork
      @laartwork 4 роки тому +2

      It's a difference having tried both.. but mainly the FOV is a giant leap from Index.

    • @De-M-oN
      @De-M-oN 4 роки тому +1

      @@dtz1000 3:37 was for me the biggest difference in this video.

  • @janred94
    @janred94 4 роки тому +2

    Looks freaking dope...
    Eyecandy! :)

  • @kwlxxi4813
    @kwlxxi4813 4 роки тому

    Wow! That looks amazing! When they include inside-out tracking, I won't hesitate in buy one...

  • @Guinea54
    @Guinea54 4 роки тому

    Wow, i wish I had the extra money to buy a super computer and this state of the art VR headset.. It does look very impressive and seems to be the new king of VR headsets in the consumer market. Very well done video showcasing the new power and resolution of the new Pimax .. I hope you and MRTV settle whatever misunderstanding occurred. I think you guys have worked well together and it's a mutual beneficial relationship even if Sebastian has certain criticisms about Pimax's customer support.

  • @sakkel.7357
    @sakkel.7357 4 роки тому +1

    SweViver, Now that you work with pimax developers and pimax has the best resolution panels, what's your thoughts on making vr glasses with highest resolution panels possible just for watching movies, 3d movies, 360 and 180 degree videos? How cheap would those glasses be without all the parts needed for serious gaming? How about even making pimax modular? It's too expensive for many of us, maybe if first buying version for movies as i said and later one could buy easily attachable module to add gaming capabilities.

  • @CatNoirVR
    @CatNoirVR 4 роки тому +13

    Why no vids from the Artisan ?

  • @ClayJitsu
    @ClayJitsu 4 роки тому +5

    i would totally buy one of these as my next VR headset. btw why do you not compare oculus rift with pimax? serious question.

    • @SweViver
      @SweViver  4 роки тому +2

      You mean Rift S? Because I hesitated and never bought one. And the old Rift looks almost as bad as HTC Vive in comparison, so there is no point...

    • @TheNexusLord
      @TheNexusLord 4 роки тому +2

      @@SweViver Getting a hold of a Rift S and/or Quest with Link; would make for a good comparison with the Artisan Martin. They're all targeting the same market segment, and would be of interest to VR Newbies; trying to make their first time buying decision. ;0)

    • @Sanddesert
      @Sanddesert 4 роки тому +3

      I would have loved to see the quest in this comparison.

    • @TheNexusLord
      @TheNexusLord 4 роки тому

      @@Sanddesert Wouldn't really be fair to the Quest, given the HUGE price difference.
      But the Artisan, is targeting the same market to a large degree, so that one would make sense to me. ;0)

  • @javipamp
    @javipamp 4 роки тому

    Nice videos, thanks. Now, let's see if Pimax doesn't delay our preorders (more?) and our stretch goals from the kickstarter. Still looking forward to watching some videos with and without VRSS and to know more about the eyetracking solution.

  • @leoatreides1
    @leoatreides1 4 роки тому

    Now that looks finally acceptable. I had had the problem that I can actually see the RGB subpixels with my old htc vive and also the quest, which really annoyes me. with the old displays I cand of had the feeling playing old C64 games because of that. good that better displays coming out. Sadly most reviews are not showing this well enough, so thanks for the video

  • @Maghan1
    @Maghan1 4 роки тому +5

    please test also IL2 BATTLE OF STALINGRAD etc.

  • @mrsleepin1433
    @mrsleepin1433 4 роки тому +2

    This is amazing!

  • @TripRodriguez
    @TripRodriguez 4 роки тому

    And fantastic job. This appears to have been done with great care. Something I've noted is that some HMD's make black on white text very legible, but white on black looks awful and vice versa.

  • @IvanoForgione
    @IvanoForgione 4 роки тому

    So let's see if I'm getting this straight:
    1) the pimax 8kx is great and better than the Index while being compatible with the same controllers and satellites; in turn it's very expensive and we don't know when we can actually get one.
    2) the hp reverb is just as good and less expensive, but it's not compatible with the best controllers and not suitable for room scale games and experiences, being basically into the windows mixed reality eco-system, so to speak (could be a great choice if you're just into vehicle simulators, though)
    3) the valve index is a nice compromise (and probably my final choice, for now) since it has acceptable readability and FOV, while being compatible with the best stuff, surely available soon (hope the restock is really close) and costs like the best pimax, but with everything you will need included.
    I'll probably get the Index and then the Reverb sometime later this year, by the time they resolve the availability problem Pimax will probably be surpassed by the next gen HMDs anyway 🤷🏻‍♂️

  • @yeahnah6468
    @yeahnah6468 4 роки тому

    I'd love to see a comparison between the 8kx and the XTAL.
    I know the price difference is huge but you can run the XTAL without a billion dollar computer.
    It seems like lens improvements greatly outperform screen resolution improvements.
    I think it would really shock a lot of people seeing a 1440p headset without super sampling completely destroy the 8kx in terms of clarity.

    • @FinalGlideAus
      @FinalGlideAus 4 роки тому

      Yeah the screens and general tech in VR is now matured enough with the exception of the lenses. Fresnel lenses are actually quite terrible lenses to use.

    • @laartwork
      @laartwork 4 роки тому

      Yeah tried three XTAL 8k and it had bad distortion and scaling. People were not impressed. I am sure they can go back to the drawing board.

  • @Blue-bf8lv
    @Blue-bf8lv 2 роки тому

    currently hoping to save enough money for the pimax 12k (if it ever releases) plus a rtx 4090 build

  • @JonahHax
    @JonahHax 2 роки тому +1

    Wow, Index is really keeping up despite the much lower resolution. Goes to show it's not only resolution that matters, but also the lenses. Reverb is just one giant cromatic abberation and pimax 8k looks like a joke.

  • @GunSlingerAUS1
    @GunSlingerAUS1 4 роки тому +1

    Watching the AC video, I can't see any hint of async reprojection. Can I ask if this was engaged at the time, or if the game was actually running at a framerate high enough to not need it? I'm a Reverb owner who plays DCS, but the reprojection artefacts are unbearable for me, so I don't fly in VR. Even the fastest PC is limited to 45fps, and the WMR reprojection leads to horrible ghosting and stutters unless you run at extremely low detail. I'd love to see the new Pimax through-the-lens in DCS with good quality gfx settings and resolution, especially looking sideways out of the cockpit. In the meantime can you talk about the DCS experience?

  • @RayeSsss
    @RayeSsss 4 роки тому

    With these images it looks like the Valve Index looks better the the Pimax 5k+ while I thought it was the other way around... So @SweViver what is your thought on that.. Also when can we get hands on a Pimax 8KX in Europe / Netherlands? Cheers!

  • @rizakayan
    @rizakayan 4 роки тому

    Amazing review. Gives lots of opinion, very nice detailed. I have Samsung Odyssey and as i see Pimax 8KX is the way to go when the price goes down. Or something similar comes out. Thanks. So i will play half life alyx with my hmd for now.

    • @GaaraSama1983
      @GaaraSama1983 4 роки тому

      The biggest problem with these high-res headsets is the GPU you need to maintain the resolution at min. 90fps. Even with ongoing GPU generations we need Eye Tracking + Foveated Rendering in VR.

  • @Relaxing137
    @Relaxing137 3 роки тому

    Best video

  • @techinfusions
    @techinfusions 4 роки тому

    Interesting to see the much cheaper HP Reverb match the 8KX in many of the tests.

  • @DayelBlake
    @DayelBlake 4 роки тому

    Any official word on when an 8KX order would be shipped? I currently have the 8KX Deluxe Headphone in my Pimax shopping cart and will hit that "Confirm Order" button as soon as I do. ;-) I've had the 5K Plus XR and the 8K and loved each unit. Now I'm ready for the best that Pimax has to offer!

  • @paulbellino5330
    @paulbellino5330 3 роки тому

    In your opinion what is the best Pimax headset

  • @jmoro1242
    @jmoro1242 4 роки тому +3

    I enjoy combat flight sims, and VR makes flight sims come alive, but spotting targets etc was almost impossible with the blur in the distance. Is the resolution of the new 8kx headset equivalent to atleast a 1080p monitor.

    • @666Azmodan666
      @666Azmodan666 4 роки тому +1

      no ? the question is how far do you have eyes from him, count how many fov covers and then divide 170fov by what you came out then multiply it by its resolution it will come out how much HMD should have.
      I think my 47 inch tv with 80cm covers about 45 fov so for me it's ~ 7200x5000 per eye.

  • @_zproxy
    @_zproxy 4 роки тому

    +1 for politcal correct explanation :P

  • @BoxofDemons
    @BoxofDemons 4 роки тому

    Will resolution settings in game have to be lower because of increased fov with pimax over the index? Is it still like a divers mask which I feel in index.

  • @netshaman9918
    @netshaman9918 4 роки тому

    And what is the rig we need for make games like asseto corsa ( in the video ) to run smoothly ?
    I will not buy the 8Kx until the foveated tracking module is ready .
    AND, when available, can you make a comparison with the FTM equiped versus "vanilla" version of the 8Kx plesae ?

  • @evertec
    @evertec 4 роки тому +2

    Please re-take the HP reverb pics using the newest WMR for SteamVR, I remember the original pics were using a version that was known to be blurry, I'd be interested to see the comparison with the reverb at its best vs 8K X. Thanks!

    • @laartwork
      @laartwork 4 роки тому +1

      They need to send him one. They are very similar since they have the same resolution. Four that test macro is moot. It should be an FOV comparison.

    • @evertec
      @evertec 4 роки тому +1

      @@laartwork He already has one, the issue was that at the time he was testing, there was a bug with Windows that caused it to run at a lower resolution than native even when at 100% supersampling. That has since been fixed so if he tests it now, it should be higher clarity.

  • @racingsfun
    @racingsfun 4 роки тому +5

    I'm waiting until I can get a sweviver coupon discount before I buy it.

    • @claybomb1064
      @claybomb1064 4 роки тому +2

      Yes, discount for his subscribers would be great

    • @SweViver
      @SweViver  4 роки тому +1

      Im working on it :)

    • @ji3200
      @ji3200 4 роки тому

      @@SweViver at least free Ridgid headstrap. $100 is too much

  • @ekstrajohn
    @ekstrajohn 4 роки тому +2

    amazing...

  • @GaaraSama1983
    @GaaraSama1983 4 роки тому

    Is there a technical difference between the 8K Plus and the Vision 8K Plus with the new "soft" plastic overcoat or is it just that and the slightly better ergonomy?

  • @wenxue5779
    @wenxue5779 4 роки тому

    Please do 8KX vs REVERB2 through the lens

  • @valentinenagy1012
    @valentinenagy1012 4 роки тому

    Hey SweViver, I loved your video on XTAL and based on this video the 8kx seems to getting close the quality of that $5,000 headset for a much more attractive price. If you are allowed to comment unbiased on what you feel about the difference between those two headsets (not considering the price difference), how close is the 8kx really to the phenomenal performance and image quality of the XTAL?

  • @bystander85
    @bystander85 4 роки тому

    How do you account for the differences between the 8KX and the 8K+/HP Reverb given they have the same resolution?

  • @smartphonegeek4332
    @smartphonegeek4332 4 роки тому

    if the primax 8kx was the same price as the index id definitely go for it

  • @jonathanvandagriff7515
    @jonathanvandagriff7515 3 роки тому

    I want to see more pictures like the end. What you actually see not micro shots close up why does that matter. I wanna know what it actually looks like

  • @intetx
    @intetx 4 роки тому

    Ibwould really like to know the exact weight of the 8kx/5ksuper. Both with and without the new hard strap.

  • @dotails
    @dotails 4 роки тому

    I need to know if the 8K plus has bad lens distortion especially when you move your head for the wide field-of-view.

  • @dr.rotorfpv2439
    @dr.rotorfpv2439 4 роки тому +1

    Hi Sweviver! I actually wonder about deformation on the edge of the lens, it is the same as the others pimax, any improvement or fix for this? Because before buying an index, I've been talking to several people selling there pimax cause it induce motionsickness for them in comparaison to the their OG vive...

  • @octoman_games
    @octoman_games 4 роки тому +5

    We have come a long way from Gen 1 HMD.

    • @SweViver
      @SweViver  4 роки тому +3

      Indeed :)

    • @zmalitas
      @zmalitas 4 роки тому +1

      but, is it 75hz? Gen1 was 90(at least on oculus)

    • @racingsfun
      @racingsfun 4 роки тому

      Gen1 vive is also 90hz.

    • @ExecutionerDan
      @ExecutionerDan 4 роки тому +2

      @@zmalitas it's at 75hz since displayport 1.4 can't send two 4k signals at 90hz. The only chance we have of the pimax 8kx doing native 4k at 90hz is if it had displayport 2.0, but sadly not a single GPU has a 2.0 port since it isnt coming out until likely q3 to q4 2020.

    • @ExecutionerDan
      @ExecutionerDan 4 роки тому +1

      @@zmalitas you can always wait for the pimax 8kX+ or something when that has dp 2.0 so it can do 4k 120hz with how much bandwidth it has.

  • @hughmac7423
    @hughmac7423 4 роки тому +2

    Looks fantastic, when is it being released?

    • @laartwork
      @laartwork 4 роки тому +1

      End of March... first to the 400ish original backers. If you preorder it may be late April/May.

    • @stevejarvislocksmith9178
      @stevejarvislocksmith9178 4 роки тому

      I’m waiting till amazon sell them in not dealing with pi max again there customer service is no good

    • @SweViver
      @SweViver  4 роки тому +2

      Upon pre-order now, most likely early May

  • @Saabjock
    @Saabjock 4 роки тому

    What system specifications ...CPU, RAM, etc... were you using for this demo and especially for the AC running at the end? I was immediately aware of the smoothness at which it ran with a large grid.

  • @Kelthor85
    @Kelthor85 4 роки тому +3

    Is there still a screen door effect? The vive has kinda made me dislike vr with how bad it is

    • @zackmack7044
      @zackmack7044 4 роки тому

      Not on the 8KX.

    • @SweViver
      @SweViver  4 роки тому +1

      On the 8KX you wont see it with your eyes. A camera and macro lens can easily see it though :)

    • @Kelthor85
      @Kelthor85 4 роки тому

      @@SweViver That is good news. Thanks for the reply. I will keep that in mind.

  • @MrHamster1982
    @MrHamster1982 4 роки тому

    What is graphics card are you using? I just can’t seem to get smooth FPS for AC

  • @florianhinz3645
    @florianhinz3645 4 роки тому +4

    Really unnecessary to fire up ur struggle with MRTV and namecalling him to strengthen ur position. So obvious u wanna be right no matter what. Are u? Does it matter? Not rly. In the end its just negative vibrations. Hell, we are all enthusiasts. There is no need for politics on either side. Lets just cheer this impressive new piece of hardware! I rly want Pimax to get this done properly and u to regain ur alltime-happiness. Flawless cam shots btw. Keep it up!

    • @SweViver
      @SweViver  4 роки тому +2

      Sebastians decision, not mine. He is free to do any video he want on 8KX except full review, just like I can't do a review yet.

    • @SweViver
      @SweViver  4 роки тому

      Thanks btw!

    • @lathander9123
      @lathander9123 4 роки тому

      IMHO It is a different between German and Chinese mindset. MRTV, he should think pimax infringe on his freedom because Pimax request him out of formal documents. However in Pimax perspective, it is like a custom for tester. Personally, I dont understand why MRTV made such public videos for mass. It is too much. They can manage about it themselves. If he don't agree with new request, he can give back the new unit to Pimax. It is a simple thing. They can manage about it in diplomatic method. Making a such assaulting video is like a declare war.

    • @laartwork
      @laartwork 4 роки тому +2

      @@lathander9123 the request was just to say in the video it is not a final review.

  • @TripRodriguez
    @TripRodriguez 4 роки тому

    @SweViver at 3:24 is that an error in labeling or something? The 8K+ is the only one that is basically unreadable to me and the pixels look way too large.

    • @ExtremCoxer
      @ExtremCoxer 4 роки тому

      Trip Rodriguez - that might be the result of an upscaled signal. That's probably why people didn't like the original 8k.

    • @TripRodriguez
      @TripRodriguez 4 роки тому

      @@ExtremCoxer What I was seeing didn't match up to all the other comparisons in this video though. But I just looked at the same segment on a different computer and it looks way better on this monitor. Also, if I don't fullscreen the video the 8K+ part of that shot is all kinds of screwed up! Wish I could post a screen cap LOL it's crazy looking. I don't have any native 4K monitors, but... whoa. Yeah this looks totally different depending on what resolution I set the video, and depending on the resolution of my screen, and whether or not it's full screen. On my laptop the 8k+ shot looked worse than Vive at that timestamp, but not on this screen. Only that test seems to vary like that depending on those things though, the flight sim test looks basically the same regardless of any of those things. Science is confusing. =P

  • @BeyondTheWall_Gaming
    @BeyondTheWall_Gaming 4 роки тому +2

    I really want to demo these vr headsets. Does anybody know when they will be on the West Coast?

    • @SweViver
      @SweViver  4 роки тому +1

      We will be at GDC in march :)

  • @anonymous134y
    @anonymous134y 4 роки тому +2

    i'm actually the most surprised by the index in this. I always thought my 5k+ would be way better than the index visually

    • @SweViver
      @SweViver  4 роки тому +1

      The SDE is better on the Index, thats no secret :) But the FOV though...

  • @LoveintheSon
    @LoveintheSon 4 роки тому

    Why are you making the index and 8k look better than the 5k plus ?

  • @cr4zyw3ld3r
    @cr4zyw3ld3r 4 роки тому

    Are lenses still being tweaked at this time or are they finalized?

  • @joanvillora
    @joanvillora 4 роки тому

    Can it be that the SDE lines of 8K+ (and more in the case of 8KX) get lightened by the light of the adjacent pixels?
    The SDE appears to be fading in the lighter areas.

  • @AlexDeLarge1
    @AlexDeLarge1 3 роки тому +1

    I'm not too impressed by the jump from 4K to 8K. For my money, I'll take the Index with the resolution cranked to 200% any day. Somehow Valve made a 1600p headset look like 4K and I hope the Index 2 has the same screen style.

    • @Oppaismasher
      @Oppaismasher 2 роки тому

      200% in just the SteamVR home or in all games? Honestly I'm not even sure if I can tell the difference between 100%, 150%, and 200% in the SteamVR home with my Index, and I have an RTX 3080 with a 5600x to be able to run it flawlessly.

    • @AlexDeLarge1
      @AlexDeLarge1 2 роки тому

      @@Oppaismasher
      Yes there is a difference.

    • @AlexDeLarge1
      @AlexDeLarge1 2 роки тому

      @@Oppaismasher
      Also SteamVR home is basically nothing. I have it turned off.

  • @ExtremeCoding203
    @ExtremeCoding203 4 роки тому

    in the video of assetto corsa the sides of the screen looks very blury. It is like that in the headset ???

  • @Woodeneyejust
    @Woodeneyejust 4 роки тому +2

    can you include some IL-2 gameplay please?

    • @SweViver
      @SweViver  4 роки тому +1

      Yes coming soon!

  • @LoveintheSon
    @LoveintheSon 4 роки тому

    Looks like 8kplus is almost as clear as the 8kx but cheaper and available.

  • @doublefrag2F
    @doublefrag2F 4 роки тому

    I prefer independent reports! Unfortunately, there won't be one until other UA-camrs get an 8kx (etc.)!

    • @SweViver
      @SweViver  4 роки тому

      I respect that. I dont bring reports though. I only show facts :)

    • @doublefrag2F
      @doublefrag2F 4 роки тому

      @@SweViver Come on! Do you seriously believe that you are considered a neutral person, when you are paid by Pimax and at the same time forbid other people's mouths or "videos"?
      I get to know all three youtubers present at the Pimax berlin meeting. I don't think you are the one who spreads the facts best!

  • @TheBeelzebub
    @TheBeelzebub 4 роки тому

    FYI, Pimax mislabeled these images on their web page. They used the ReverbV1 images as 8K+ images. store.pimaxvr.com/shop/product/pimax-vision-8k-x-384

  • @miSta1982
    @miSta1982 Рік тому

    What do you mean the reverb v1? G1 or g2 v1?

  • @whiterice7466
    @whiterice7466 4 роки тому

    Which VR set you think gives better quality videos for porn, pima 8k x vs valve index? thank you

  • @essereRacing
    @essereRacing 4 роки тому

    i have an oculus rift S and it's bad on assetto. Graphics are ugly, pixelised. The new Pimax looks incredible. I Want one!

  • @chungkafung
    @chungkafung 4 роки тому

    Thank! Now i know Valve Index Is the Best!

  • @maulcs
    @maulcs 4 роки тому

    Are you using manual exposure and focus for these?

  • @locked01
    @locked01 Рік тому

    I've bought 5k super in 2023. Wish me luck

  • @JenoSnetrem
    @JenoSnetrem 4 роки тому +2

    A question, what PiTool version are you using?

    • @SweViver
      @SweViver  4 роки тому +2

      253. Will try 254 Alpha for the next benchmarks!

  • @NoriakiKasa1
    @NoriakiKasa1 4 роки тому

    nice turn! 5:07

  • @misoswan1087
    @misoswan1087 4 роки тому +1

    WHY YOU NOT TESTED HP REVERB V2?
    THANKS

    • @nostromo2902
      @nostromo2902 4 роки тому

      You mean the one with the better cable clip?!?

    • @SweViver
      @SweViver  4 роки тому +2

      Because HP doesnt replace my v1 after 2 emails

    • @misoswan1087
      @misoswan1087 4 роки тому

      without mura effect lcd :)

    • @comdudeskip
      @comdudeskip 4 роки тому +1

      @@SweViver Phone their technical support line - they were very good to send out a replacement that very day, that arrived 2 days later. Then they provided a pickup of the faulty unit. I originally tried by emailing sales support who weren't any good and recommended me phoning technical support - that proved much more effective.
      The new unit (manufactured in November) is a notably brighter and better colour saturated display. Quite an improvement to SDE on it too, from an already minimal amount.