This right here is why we do self rescue in my industry. We should share notes and get a better understanding. Self rescue is not and action movie event
Biggest problem with the F4 system I experience, is extending the system/ rope if you need to anchor off something else further away... then the window sill, in the heat of the moment.
What else are you guys carrying in your pockets? Wondering if you are trading off anything to carry something like this? Thanks for all the great videos and ideas.
All our members are different - Besides the requirement to carry our VRS, we have latitude to carry what we choose to carry in and on our gear. For myself I only carry what I feel is more essential equipment - I use to carry some basic tools like a pliers, screwdrivers and a multitool, but I never needed any of those tools for an imminent emergency, so I eliminated them from my gear to make room for items I feel could be more useful at major emergencies.
@@DALEGPEKEL I would be very interested to see a video from you and a few other members on “what’s in your pockets” and of course the reasoning behind those choices. Thank you for the great content!
Fantastic video. I purchase a petzl system before I saw your videos. Do you have an east coast bail out location for training that we can meet with you?
Hey Dave - Thanks for your comment Brother! - Unfortunately I don't - I'm in the Milwaukee County area in Wisconsin. Not sure if you have heard of Don Colarusso from All Hands Fire, but he offers some great training on the East Coast - allhandsfiretraining.com/author/donallhandsfire-com/
@@DALEGPEKEL thank you very much for the link. In the past your videos have broadened my mind. It is good to know that you have other individuals who you believe can help those of us who are limited in terms of traveling for hands-on training. Please keep the videos coming. Appreciate you!
Thanks - It's a great Q and I wish I could give you an answer, but I don't have one - From my understanding the term "Irons" originated in FDNY - Where the first Halligan bar was created by Chief Hugh Halligan in the late 1940s - Not sure when and where the term Irons was first used, but it's certainly stood the test of time, accurate or not.
@@DALEGPEKEL Yeah I had to do a bunch of research on it because I made the mistake of asking our Chief haha. Apparently they actually used to be made of iron (seems strange to me) and the name just stuck.
It's called a scaffold knot - The poachers knot is very similar and a few percent stronger - Both are the recommended knots for tying on an anchor hook due to their holding power and more compact/streamlined form. Fig 8 is an option, but definitely don't use a bowline - It's not a good choice for life safety elevated rope operations
Richard - There is no real need for a safety on a Scaffold or Poachers knot - Sure if you want to use a safety, feel free to, but my experience has never seen a need - Both these knots get so tight AFTER being loaded you literally have to cut the rope (or webbing) to change out the hook. We always try to minimize shock loads, but all the components are more than strong enough to handle them. Anything over a 2 foot drop poses more danger to the FF than most of the equipment - Especially components that are UL tested and NFPA 1983 certified. As far as the tape - You can't melt 100% Kevlar or Armaid fibers - Your only option is to glue, heat shrink or tape the end of the rope or webbing. We will often tape and then cut the rope or webbing so we get a clean cut.
So glad you’re back Brother.
Im glad you still make videos!
This right here is why we do self rescue in my industry. We should share notes and get a better understanding. Self rescue is not and action movie event
also love the tape on the prussik
Biggest problem with the F4 system I experience, is extending the system/ rope if you need to anchor off something else further away... then the window sill, in the heat of the moment.
Hey dale love your stuff . Is commercial upholstery Llc still in business? And how much does that bag cost?
Yeah he still is - I believe he's still asking $30 a bag
What else are you guys carrying in your pockets? Wondering if you are trading off anything to carry something like this? Thanks for all the great videos and ideas.
All our members are different - Besides the requirement to carry our VRS, we have latitude to carry what we choose to carry in and on our gear. For myself I only carry what I feel is more essential equipment - I use to carry some basic tools like a pliers, screwdrivers and a multitool, but I never needed any of those tools for an imminent emergency, so I eliminated them from my gear to make room for items I feel could be more useful at major emergencies.
@@DALEGPEKEL I would be very interested to see a video from you and a few other members on “what’s in your pockets” and of course the reasoning behind those choices. Thank you for the great content!
Fantastic video. I purchase a petzl system before I saw your videos. Do you have an east coast bail out location for training that we can meet with you?
Hey Dave - Thanks for your comment Brother! - Unfortunately I don't - I'm in the Milwaukee County area in Wisconsin. Not sure if you have heard of Don Colarusso from All Hands Fire, but he offers some great training on the East Coast - allhandsfiretraining.com/author/donallhandsfire-com/
@@DALEGPEKEL thank you very much for the link. In the past your videos have broadened my mind. It is good to know that you have other individuals who you believe can help those of us who are limited in terms of traveling for hands-on training. Please keep the videos coming. Appreciate you!
How many feet are you carrying?
its more than likely 25 ft
Ok thanks, we have 50 in ours, I was just curious what other agencies carried.
Hey Dale, random shot in the dark question. Why are they called "Irons" when both the halligan and flat axe are made of steel?
Thanks - It's a great Q and I wish I could give you an answer, but I don't have one - From my understanding the term "Irons" originated in FDNY - Where the first Halligan bar was created by Chief Hugh Halligan in the late 1940s - Not sure when and where the term Irons was first used, but it's certainly stood the test of time, accurate or not.
@@DALEGPEKEL Yeah I had to do a bunch of research on it because I made the mistake of asking our Chief haha. Apparently they actually used to be made of iron (seems strange to me) and the name just stuck.
@@ShellShock11C hookandirons.com/blogs/hook-and-irons/6959584-hugh-halligans-masterpiece-revisited
What is the knot called that is tied to the hook? is this knot better than a figure 8 or bowline knot? Why? TIA
It's called a scaffold knot - The poachers knot is very similar and a few percent stronger - Both are the recommended knots for tying on an anchor hook due to their holding power and more compact/streamlined form. Fig 8 is an option, but definitely don't use a bowline - It's not a good choice for life safety elevated rope operations
huge flaw is no safety on the hook for one. Shock load is a real deal breaker!
Richard - There is no real need for a safety on a Scaffold or Poachers knot - Sure if you want to use a safety, feel free to, but my experience has never seen a need - Both these knots get so tight AFTER being loaded you literally have to cut the rope (or webbing) to change out the hook. We always try to minimize shock loads, but all the components are more than strong enough to handle them. Anything over a 2 foot drop poses more danger to the FF than most of the equipment - Especially components that are UL tested and NFPA 1983 certified. As far as the tape - You can't melt 100% Kevlar or Armaid fibers - Your only option is to glue, heat shrink or tape the end of the rope or webbing. We will often tape and then cut the rope or webbing so we get a clean cut.
dress up that knot
Haha