Breaking The Myth of Russian “Human Wave” Attacks
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- Опубліковано 1 жов 2024
- Debunking military tactics used on the battlefield of Ukraine. To do so, I will also do a historical comparison by looking into the Korean War and the Iran-Iraq War.
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We had a joke in the USSR. In different variations, but something like this:
A NYT journalist brings an article to the editor. "The Soviet gymnast won gold at the World Championships."
Editor: "Are you a fool? - rewrite it normally."
Journalist "The Soviet gymnast won the World Championship.. But at what cost?"
I remember the Zampolit officers travelling with the gymnasts. KGB, to ensure they do not defect. 😂
😂😂😂👏👏👏 hilarious
That's VERY funny!😂
@@yxmichaelxyyxmichaelxy3074 confirm. My grandfather is a KGB officer. and he told me that once he shot a football team with an anti-aircraft gun for moving to half of the opponent's field.
@@jlucmonag5712
Why did the Soviet Red Army hockey team exist? Every player was a member of the GRU. The Soviets could not believe the West were so stupid as to allow Soviet recon of their cities to happen. They were aghast at such American stupidity.
Remember that according to Zelensky Ukraine has 800k soldiers across the frontline, but needs half a million more after they have "only" lost 30k.
😂😂😂😂😂
What a wierd ukronazi math)
The Russians just have mastered the art of non-lethal combat, truly the most moral army, American police need to learn from the Russians lol.
war is like this. if you claim to lose minimal men, but need 500k more men, it means 2 things. Either you lost 500k and not 30k or you are preparing for a counter offensive. its not the 2nd one for ukraine
😂😂😂😂 spot on!!!
It doesn't add up!
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это правда у меня железный член
Да не, украинцы уже кремлеботами никого не называют. Этим занимаются жители запада
Ваш баланс пополнен на 15 руб))))))))))
@@aezacmi ура, половина от цены проезда в моём городе
I guess D-day would be considered a human wave event.
These meat grinder waves are about as real as ghost of Kiev
I liked his beard
Fr, never heard from that pilot anything since 2022. Neither getting shutdown nor shutting down russians
😂
I wanted to write the same, so it must be true :D
So Russia doesn't use meat grinder tactics? Are you losers really this delusional? 😂😂😂
As one Russia soldier said “ Let them win the information war, we will win the real war “
As the Spaniards DID in 1589.
And when they win it's gonna be emotional damage 😂
As if Russia isn't waging an information war...😂😂😂
@@kall111who would have thought that russia and ukraine have more in common than Iraq and USA
🫡 Yes comrade !
Saying Russia is using human wave tactics is like calling Abrams a game changer.
It is a gamechanger. It makes the Ukrainian Army loose even quicker...
Thats a New one
You know why it's a game changer? Because it shows how pathetic nato is every time.
Morozov angered Moscow by writing that Russian generals were wastefully sacrificing their men.
Btw, what is going on with those game-changing A-50s? Lol
@@AC35K no it doesn’t. All it is, is another speed bump.
NAFO bots are storming this comment section, you could say these are meat wave attacks.
retarted wave attacks
Are these nafo types even relevant? Looks like they have isolated themselves
What does NAFO stand for?
@@nekvia7228 North Atlantic Fellas Organization: some left wing ish psyop NATO simps who spam terrible anti Russian memes.
dude, you wrote yourself 2 comments alrady, and those are the only ones that I see
ISW: Russians can't exploit victory over avdiivka and needs rest
Russia: captures 4 more towns
Isw?
@@Snp2024 institute of study of war
ISW: Institute of Shovels and Washing machines 😂
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂@@CedarsMountainsMan
@@CedarsMountainsMannice
Normandy D-Day was a human wave attack but noone ever calls it a human wave attack.
not really....please read the definitions given by Alex. The allied forces were no way unprotected and they had air superiority and massive fire power from the navy ships. Yes it was a great offensive with massive troops involved, but those troops didn't use meat wave tactics.
Normandy D-Day was a successful landing except for a minor portion of it. It then was overdramatized in movies etc. The read drama was than after the landing when the allied forces stuck in Normandy for more than 2 months.
@@kamikaze2009they kinda did, the artillery fire was not very accurate especially the air support the majority of the b-17s did not hit their targets and the US soldiers were forced to charge up the beach, the other beaches saw German soldiers surrender or not much resistance
@@kamikaze2009well the surviving German machine gunner will say you are a fool! The only reason he surrendered was because he ran out of bullets to kill the allied troops and he had to play dead in order not to be dummy executed by the US troop that he just mowed down.
@@jameschalkwig787You seem to forget that the Germans diverted resources to the western front for the Ardennes offensive but never tried that with the Soviets. The Americans had the same capacity as the Soviets, it’s just D-Day was the creating of the foothold into Europe.
When russia takes a town that was fortified for a decade, it's called "insignificant." When ukraine captured a few houses in their offensive, it was a critical success
Its getting boring to be honest🤣🤣🤣🤣
U nailed it. 😅😅😅
Western propaganda 😂😂😂
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Anyone remember how the lying western mass-media reported the going trough of 5 Ukrainian soldiers behind the first dragon teeths during the greatest probing attack as if the whole Ukrainian army swept trough Russia's first defensive line?
Great times 😂
"It's not propaganda when WE do it."
Great video.
Yeah
I recently witnessed a "human meat-wave" assault. I was at a Krogers Supermarket, when 3, 300 lb. women came waddling down the aisle pushing carts filled with potato chips and pop. The snack department was almost completely devastated. Oh, the horror. I could almost hear their arteries clogging. It was sickening. There was no getting around them. I was forced to retreat to the produce department where I took cover next to the spinach, since I knew they would never attack there.
Battle of Wallmart😂 Typical american meat waves
Как ты выжил?..😂
the Kroger ambush
Thank you man, you made my day 😂😂😂
ua-cam.com/users/shorts0_2x1oum_Gg - this is real human wave attack in Ukraine :)
This has become the best channel for exposing the truth about war in Ukraine. Keep it up.
Pro Russian channel
@@b4nterontilt245is he wrong though?
@@b4nterontilt245doesn’t change the fact that he is one of the most objective channels that tries to present facts
@b4nterontilt245 hes literally never expressed support for the Russian government. Are you that daft that you think discussing Ukraines failures makes him a supporter of the Russians?
@@RussianOccupier190he’s not wrong, he just does what most other pro-Ukraine channels do. And that’s only report majority good news
Ironically, westerner most proud WW2 moment, D Day, IS a human wave attack. 😂😂
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
That's what I just commented Bro. D-Day was one of the most known human wave attack
Or Ukraine river crossing to Krinky wich is the Ukrainians D day. it's funny nobody is mentioning this one.
Sometimes it has to be done to win. Massively brutal. Stalingrad had two mass human waves in most horrific battle ever. Neither Hitler nor Stalin gave a monkeys about how many of their soldiers died.
To be fair, demographics back then were such that countries could afford the occasional human wave attack.
Bakhmut falls: "meatwave"
Avdiivka falls: "but at what cost!"
Rabotino: " A majestic victory, worthy of its price!!!"
2024 Russia lost 30.000 men for an area as big as Leipzig. Sucess looks diffrent.
@@Till_Eulenspiegelwhat is the zize leipzig
@@Till_Eulenspiegel The BBC revealed that Russia lost 50,000 soldiers during the entire war. Commentators on UA-cam: Russia loses 30 thousand every day)))))
@@ogouFeray-h5j 297 km²
Isn’t the term “human wave” an unintended code word for “we are loosing the war”.
It's pure cope
"losing", but yeah, it is the same cope as "it's not strategically important".
Always was
"Human wave" translates to "They sent somewhere between 5-10 guys and we lost the position"
@@ReikerForgeIn ww1 and ww2, Human Wave would mean a "Mass Mobilization Doctrine". Essentially throwing millions of conscripts, or even 'trained' men into fortified positions. Ending in the deaths of millions each offensive(Eastern Front, Soviet Casualty Statistics).
Dude, keep speaking the truth you are a genius.
Thank you for the support bro! 🙏
@@historylegendswill you ever do a video on Operation Storm
@@historylegendsSo it is more thze first and snd WW style. Soviet especially, like the numbers tell, the 'score' by german soldiers, the sometimes usual soviet soldiers running into battle without weapon and taking some by the fallen ones at the first lines.
When it was such a millions fallen spectacle.
Even the west did build on mass, cheap tanks, lost so much support ships.
Old battle styles were a mass sacifice spectacle in waves, with less soldiers versus midrange+ WW 1, 2 battles.
@@remypascal4872 It's only the first WW, no one used human waves during the WW2, unless there was no other choice. It's german defamation campaign along with russians havin 1 rifle for 3 men that movies propagated. It never happened, SU had surplass of rifles in WW2, more weapons than infantry.
@@historylegendsdon't you only take rubles? Well then again, with their shitty economy, it's probably go idea for US money.
ukrain news is very true, you just need to undertand it reversed
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Dehumanizing the enemy is part of war. Like calling the Russians orcs... sigh.
Yea but the people calling them that are DORKS.
That's a huge red flag in every war. If someone has to dehumanize his opponent it means the other arguments aren't better than going full ad hominem.
In other words: if ukraine would truly just defend itself it would be enough. If you can prove without doubt that's what happened you have the high ground no matter if your opponent is a human or orc. But they can't. There is actually prove that's not what happened. So they have to resort to name calling and stupid propaganda. People talking on social media just like people who voted the nsdap into power would have talked online... I even saw wwii fascist propaganda from nafo accounts lmao
It's happy time in Mordor🫠
Ukraine Bandera fascists Nazi meat waves
I don't find being called an Orc offensive. I use to play as one on World of Warcraft for years.
Who would of thought NATO would be defeated by Shovels, Washing Machines, and Meat Waves 😂😂
🤣
New meme to add to list
@antar.....NATO could easily handle the fearsome Shovels , Washing machine divisions . But then the Russians troops were fitted out with socks and Nato could not handle that . I read that in the MSM so it must be true or they would not have written it would they ?
😂 Russia can't handle Ukraine to handle NATO 😂
@@abboudashkar3804 наверное ты должен кое что почитать про войну на истощение. Чем дольше идёт эта война , тем меньше у тебя денег на банковской карте. 😂
I had someone try to tell me that Ukraine's latest "trading land for time" strategy is a winning one....
These people are reaching cult levels of coping.
Ukraine, really doesn’t have time on their side, if anything, with a lot of new elections coming up in 2024, time seems to be against them.
Trading land for time till there's no more land left
@@janeprice13 Zelinski will not leave his throne in may 24, he'll hold on to it.
tactical retreats by genius Zaza-lensky, just wait until Steiner counterattacks...
Ukraine is winning on tiktok
It’s strange when Europeans say that Russians are losers, because they lost so many soldiers in 2 years, while America lost only 4,000 people in Iraq in 8 years. They don't take into account the fact that:
1.The Iraqis did not have as much military equipment and weapons.
2. Almost a million military personnel did not fight against the Americans with constant reinforcements and several waves of mobilization.
3.The Iraqis did not have satellite intelligence from other countries.
4.The most developed countries in the world did not help the Iraqis.
5.The Iraqis did not have drones or modern radio equipment.
6.The Iraqis did not speak the language of the Americans and could not pass themselves off as them.
7.The Iraqis did not leave for America and did not destroy military installations within the country.
8.The Iraqis did not have such strong propaganda.
9.The terrain of Iraq is deserted, the terrain of Ukraine is more difficult due to large forests in which it is convenient to hide. Houses in Iraq are basically low, houses in Ukraine are multi-story, making it easy to hide in them.
10. Ukraine has a lot of artillery, Iraq did not have artillery in such quantity and variety.
That's not all, I'm too lazy to go further down the list.
Russia is fighting against Ukraine, which has all this.
It is wrong that Europeans, who fight only with weak countries, tell Russia that it is weak.
Google translator
yeah also how can they advance without being spotted by a drone when attacks can succeed or fail because of drones
Tambahan
11. sebelum di invasi USA,irak sudah lelah berperang dengan Iran selama 8 tahun.
12.Irak bukan produsen persenjataan militer
13.Irak di sanksi&embargo puluhan tahun sebelum di invasi😅
US usually fights naked savages in rags, Russians fight their equals. Hence the losses. Ukraine soldiers have the same armanents and equipment, not beach slippers and ww2 bazookas.
so the Americans of Iraq fought with bearded men from the village, and not with pro soldiers
to add that Ukraine has a lot of NATO equipment and volunteers from NATO. In fact, Russia is at war not only with Ukraine, but also with many other states. Well, no one condemned the United States for aggression and did not apply sanctions and ban all American
Three Russians walk into a bar...
Ukrainian bartender - 'It's a Meat Wave!'
It's the media not ukraine
And the Russians say let's get out of here this is sausage party
Three Ukrainians walk into a bar, one of them is a traitor.
@@Itoyokofan Traitor to what?
@@ravenkorr8167 doesn't matter
Zelensky said they have 880k army and 31k dead. Then,why do they need 500k more soldiers?
quite ironic. media is accusing russia of using the very tactic that ukraine has been using!
The good question is 880 k where they are ?
probably because they have soo much weapon in their storage that it getting full, so they need more soldier to hold the weapon for them
(edit: just in case if you don't know. my comment is a joke about the lack of weapon on ukraine side)
Because Ukraine so far have lost 560.000 dead and wounded together
@@Drako_Strike880k probably includes all the supporting staff and everyone ever in the military. Including those guys dragging men off the streets to conscripted
There is not an accurate English translation to the Russian word of Maskorovka. It means many things, camouflage, concealment, disseption, planting false intelligence to trick the enemy, etc, etc. But I never thought that it could be so effective to the point where you can make the enemy believe their own lies. It's like the Germans after WW2, we only lost the war on the eastern front because of the bad weather, it was the leaders mistakes, they over ran us with their endless human waves blah blah blah. History repeats itself, no one ever wants to admit to being outfought by Russia and has to come up with an excuse to imply that the enemy was cheating somehow.
You are right. Even here in ex ussr states the notion that the soviet union used “human wave tactics” to win the war is still present. Propaganda is everywhere.
These are facts. Everyone always underestimates them. Their military record is fantastic. They beat the Swedes, Ottomans, Commonwealth, French, and would have rolled the British in the 19th century if they fought before 1880. They only took an L in WWI and that was due alot to an internal conflict.
Boris Schwanwitsch
Google this name. This is genius of maskirovka. Russian from Ukraine, helped to hide tanks from Germans. His tombstone also interesting.
Right, I had to edit this comment.
Wikipedia doesn't say anything about his work during WWII, but he shined best there. Look at his tombstone, just a wing of butterfly. But wait...
Ukraine Bandera fascists Nazi meat waves
Maskirovka! Not maskOrovka
Dude, the quality of your content put to shame the propaganda of the media
His is propaganda too.
Edit: this is coming from a fan of his UA-cam page, he has purposely left out some major blows the Russians took, not saying Ukraine has the upper edge. But there is a clear biased in my personal opinion.
@random-rh1tm where did I say they were winning? Considering what they are against the Ukrainians have done a decent job of holding the Russians off despite losses of land. Have you watched all of his videos on this current conflict?
Dude ask your government why censured new are in democracy.It is for me as German unacceptable.No chance for bullshit excuse...so called Putin propaganda.Carlson interview was attacked instead to gratitude such professional jurnalist.And many other things.Your hate and rage is insine.In Servia there is all news from.every side.If shame that is our definitive supporting MOST Corrupted regime in Ukraina .For me German Ukrains values are not my values.Amin.F.... u with this narrative.Reality shows that we western are liers.
@random-rh1tm the ussr lost teritorry to germany before winning. Losing Land does not mean you are losing a war. War isn't black and white. Using your brain doesn't hurt.
@random-rh1tm Ukraine has been whooping Russians entire year last year...now with Trump cutting the supplies to 0 for 4 months...Ukraine has serious munitions shortages. They mostly retreat now instead of fighting since...there is not enough artillery shells.
The only point of downplaying your enemy is
prepping your own public to become meat waves
Kinda like this video
Zelensky's government said that if Western governments can't give them more shells, they will have to waste more soldiers. Meat waves is what they practice
Exactly 🤣
absolutely they want the public to show interest and then they will start sending them for meat wave
To be fair, they call it meat waves because assaulting mechanized units cannot put up a fight against drones and not only that but they keep assaulting again and again using the same roads and tactics which is the definition of insanity.
Meat wave is Ukrainian method from start.
Thats why Ukraine have 16 waves of mobilization
And still loosing. Best illustration that meat waves dont work.
Yes, Russia had only one wave of 300k civilian people and countless prisoners. And still losing.
@@daniles pfff, haha, sure sure)))
@@daniles Ah i love SBU propaganda lmao
But if Russia "loosing" why Ukraine didnt liberate even 0.5% of territory ?! Lmao
Yep that's why Ukraine have 700k KIA
no?
During the Soviet-Finnish War, all Finnish newspapers were published daily with victorious reports about the extermination of thousands of Russian soldiers, hundreds of their tanks, and dozens of aircraft. About the help of the whole world in the war against the USSR. And then suddenly, one morning, all the newspapers came out with the headline, in huge letters in a black frame, - FINLAND CAPITULATES.
Yet for some reason, Finns now tend to think that they won that war. Yeah, last I checked, it was Finland who had to concede territories, not USSR.
Then again, in a world where freaking Israel sent help and combat instructors to the regime that glorifies people that were slaughtering Jews by the score in WW2, this type of thought actually shouldn't be a surprise.
@@ObsidianKaizer I'm from Finland and I do consider the winter war as a phyrric victory, because Finland achieved their was goal. Remaining independent. But saying that Soviets also achieved part of their war aims. Push the border away from Leningrad, and they largely dictated the peace terms. My point is that things don't have to be so black and white.
Still, it was a pretty embarrassing war for the Soviet Union. And a great loss for the Finnish communists and the puppet republic the soviets tried to create there.
@@ObsidianKaizer Ironically enough, if that campaign had been a complete victory for the USSR, huge chunk of Karelia including the city of Viborg, would now be part of Finnland since 1991. So in the end that kind of semi-victory turned out to be more sustainable for Russia in the long run...
@@juliankraus1011And the government there before wasn't a puppet state, classical liberalism
Russian soldier just walking: HUMAN WAVE ATTACK
UKR soldier just walking: wow so tactical very strategic
Russian soldier shitting:Omg look he is dying!
Ukrainian soldier shitting:Very tactical indeed!
Ukrainian strategic running-counteroffensive towards Poland borders
@@calm694 С вашими темпами это случится лет через 50. Это надо еще чтобы Трамп столько прожил, обеспечивая ваши последние "стратегические" успехи.
@@VelikiyChuchhe Напоминаю что американцы кинули своих "Союзников" в Афганистане прямо перед вторжением, до этого они кинули Вьетнам, и воткнули нож в спину Хуссейну, у США и без Трампа хорошо выходит кидать своих "Друзей" на произвол судьбы как только администрации США это становится не выгодно. Молится и надееться на США это скользкая дорожка
I bet you wear a bdu in mom's basment too🤡
The Western media propaganda is so bad, that an episode of the A-team is more realistic.
always been on kindergarden level
I ain't getting on no plane, fool!
And the worst part is that a lot of people buy their bs.
If it's stupid but it works, it isn't stupid.
Wait are you saying the A-team wasn't a documentary?
😂😂Russians with shovels, washing machines, rusty rifles beat NATO, and the USA or NATO with the most modern best weapons, with billions of dollars, lost all wars against shepherds with hunting rifles from Vietnam, Korea, Laos, Somalia, Serbia, Afghanistan.... strange times😂😂
tactical retreats by genius Zaza-lensky, just wait until Steiner counterattacks with Anti-Shovel Tractors and Ghost of Avdiivka...
Best comment here
Russians shoot 20.000 shells per day.
Ukraine has run out of shells .
Absolutely no reason to send a single man to attack, before flattening the place.
Ukraine on the other hand confirmed that they lost only 31K soldiers so far since the start of war - which means that Ukraine does a new Mobilization after every 2000 soldiers they lose.
Nothing they claim makes any sense.
Serbia doesn't belong that group, though.
Thank you for the mention. With everything going on in the world, people have closed their hearts and eyes to our struggle while the terrorists steal our land, Holy Churches, monasteries, relics and history. Космет је ❤ Србије!🇷🇸☦️
И зачем я это вообще смотрю? я на работу опаздываю
😂😂😂
Наконец-то рекомендации Ютуба что-то годное дают
Зачем я это комментирую😂
Ахаха,есть такое
"human waves" is usually thrown around when someone has to justify a defeat at the hands of some enemy they consider genetically inferior.
It's like blaming lag for dying in cod
Sometimes it is ideologically inferior
Yet, casualty estimates, such as from Bakhmut, suggest there is no contradiction
..and yes, similar actions practiced by agressor and by defending side might have different names
Which is just cope for their own inferiority. 🤣
"Our enemies place no value on human life" is a propaganda tactic.
Unless we're talking about Ukraine in Bahmut and Wagner with the prisoners, in that case both are quite true.
@@THEROOT1111Ah yes “it’s obvious propaganda against MY side” But as soon as you use it against them its all of sudden “truth”🤡
Both Ukraine and Russia engage in serious propaganda, that’s why I don’t care. “Meat wave” assault is just called standard military tactics, it’s called “war.”
It's projection. Most of the things they tell us Russia are doing Ukraine themselves are doing
@@THEROOT1111that's still not meat waves
Whatever Ukraine accuses Russia of, you can be sure that Ukraine is doing it.
It’s their CIA training, only thing west does is projecting, they say Russian and Chinese economies are collapsing while theirs are etc. etc. always and in every case
They're clearly projecting lmao.
Western culture is all about lying and projecting
such a bs claim. Russia has a great history of lying, why are so much fools now believing them. We can see the human waves. They send 5-10bmps a day and they get destroyed. Next day the same. We can see that on Video. And if ukraine would do the same, we would see russian Military bloggers use such videos as propaganda. So no, ukraine doenst do such a bs. They fight freely, the russians because they have to.
And Israel is doing 10 times more evil things.
Когда я читаю комментарии,у меня складывается впечатление что американцы больше за Россию чем некоторые россияне
The cope is so hard right now I can't handle it hahahaha. The first Elite Reddit brigade and second mechanized disney division are fuming right now😁😁
😂 cnn brigade is in moscow and takin prisoners
tactical retreats by genius Zaza-lensky, just wait until Steiner counterattacks with Anti-Shovel Tractors and Ghost of Avdiivka...
@@bertamaria-bender2889CNN brigade 😂😂😂😂
You dont even know what copium means. It was a word, invented for fools that believed soviet propaganda during the cold war. So you dont even know how to use that word rightly. It a word, made for people like you, that believe russian propaganda. And when did the russian ever told the truth? yes, never.
You losers really think all these names are gonna help Russia win? 🤣🤣🤣
When you de-value and de-humanize your enemy, you only make their victory upon you more painful and humiliating.
That's similar to what Azov veterans said in an interview, when asked a question which portrayed Russian attacks as a completely incompetent force.
@@definitelyfrank9341That is logical... they keep "humiliating" the Russian forces, yet they keep losing manpower, equipment and cities to them... If you call your enemy a weakling and you lose to that weakling, what does that say about you?
@@doejoe-es9bg My god this comments section is pathetic.
@@secretagentcat you know you're part of the comment section now right?
@@secretagentcatWoosh.
When Rommel used infiltration tactic in Carporeto (Matajur) it is named tactical masterpiece, when Russians or Chinese do the same it is called human wave attack.
what is your point? the soviets and Chinese used human wave tactics there is no denying that
Yes, and? 🗿
I mean, the West is historically known for sympathizing Nazis
so you don't believe in 16k killed Russians during the battle for Avdiivka, for example? or ~8.7 million Soviet soldiers killed in WWII?
@@GuscioRosso same tactic!
I remember watching that Danish guy (Anders puck Nielsen) resolve the “mistery” of the Nordstream pipeline using only his “big brain”. He came to the conclusion Russia did it just by deduction. No evidence analysis or provided whatsoever.
Who are you talking about exactly?
@@yellowtunes2756 Anders Puck Nielsen.
@@yellowtunes2756Anders Puck Nielsen.
😂 Great idea to destroy a billion dollar pipeline almost beyond repair, when the Russians could just switch off the taps.
@@yellowtunes2756 and errs puk neelsen ( Had to change the spelling, YT seems to keep deleting the comment)
I'm so sick of being lied to by the federal government and it's corporate servants. Thank you for some real journalism.
Bro, it's the opposite, the federal gov is a servant of the corporates from the military complex to the health industry. They act as if they work for you, but they work for who pay more otherwise, no money for campaign and media coverage to win the next election.
You are almost right, you are just confusing the ones who corrupt with the ones who are being corrupted.
Well said.
So you need a pro russian propagandist to tell you what to think? lmfao
well said Oliver. This is so sad with these horrible liers@@OliverFlinn
Lmao you special@@OliverFlinn
Russia retreated from Kherson because they knew they could not defend it. Ukraine fought to the last Ukrainian in the hopeless defences of Bakhmut and Avdiivka.
That's the art of war.
Russian Military actually understands what massive losses are so they try to minimize losses to both military and civilians.
They could defend it and taken kiev. But the civilian death toll would've been horrendous, this wouldn't look good today. Baghdad Bob returns....
Yea but Every time Ukraine is losing a city it costs them political legitimacy
Russian also avoided fighting in urban area with civilians as how they have seen during Mariupol and Kiev battle.
Russia gaining more and more momentum in a snowball effect, meanwhile Nafo redditors getting more and more hooked on that premium Afghan copium.
No no no no its not momenum its tactical retreats by genius Zaza-lensky, just wait until Steiner counterattacks...
Snowball effect 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽
The pro Nazi bloggers are getting desperate and truly unhinged
Courtesy of USA
Ukraine Bandera fascists Nazi meat waves
мне, как русскому, изначально было понятно, что никаких "мясных атак" нет, потому что даже с точки зрения выгоды это провальная тактика, потому что закидывая фронт мясом ты теряешь очень много личного состава, который вообще-то должен контролировать территории, которые были захвачены, не говоря уже про то, что на данный момент в зоне боевых действий сейчас находится примерно 300 тысяч русских солдат еще с волны частичной мобилизации, управляя столь ограниченным контингентом закидывать фронт "мясом" слишком расточительно и наша тактика предполагает наименьшие потери как со стороны наших военнослужащих, так и со стороны жителей украины, разве что украинских солдат и правда стараемся как можно больше размолоть приняв оборонительное положение.
@woopymotions6714 пропаганда. хотят выставить россию фашистами и безумцами, которые не считаются с потерями и хотят захватить киев любой ценой)
@woopymotions6714 Такой бред могут писать только люди, которые войну знают по американским фильмам и кол оф дьюти. Ни один действующий офицер воюющей армии никогда ни о каких мясных атаках заявлять не будет, если конечно это не гос пропаганда.
@@kyrakabe Жуков бы поржал)))
ага ага 300 тысяч с первой волны, они сдохли еще в 23-ем, наверно поэтому первый транш за подписание контракта с МО РФ подняли с 200 т.рублей до 1млн 600 тысяч рублей?? из-за того что всех хватает на фронте да?))
@@KimTim-v1w
У меня дядя как раз тогда и был мобилизован. Скидывает фотки, иногда с трофейной снарягой, недавно с наловленной рыбой, лол. Сейчас на две недели вернулся почилить.
Меньше слушай что тебе по телеку и в проукраинских тг каналах впаривают.
When your enemy attack you is called "human wave" if you attack it's called a "counter attack"
And if you are knocked out and driven out of your positions, then call it "saving soldiers" or "luring the enemy to unfavorable positions"
Ага... когда унацы яростно обороняют позиции, но у них этго не получается и гибнут тысячами убегают - это тактическое отступление. А если войска России покидают, даже не пытаясь проводить оборону, на более выгодные позиции (для примера Херсон) - то это у них, - русские позорно бегут. Украинская власть и Запада осознанно выбрали политику и действия направленные на уничтожение украинцев, ради того, что просто не любят Россию и хотят ей зоть как-то навредить. Это преступно и эти политики запада и украины должны быть осуждены и казнены как Садам Хусейн.
Oh, man, why your statement is so B A S E D 😂❤
@@zabzaba1683так Пригожин прямым текстом сказал, что русские обосрались под Киевом ю. Под Херсоном было по другому, захватывали, проводили референдум, баннеры «Херсон с РФ навсегда» ставили, чтобы через 3 месяца свалить?
@@zabzaba1683 right, like your Kremlin owned Media doesn't espouse BS, keep dreaming Ivan.
They don't need evidence. People believe in what they hear and not what they see.
This video would make sense until you see literal footage of Russians just sending armored column after armored column into a Ukrainian trench line only to be destroyed over and over by drones, mines, and artillery.
The tactics he discussed in the video are BY THE BOOK, designed to be used in a conventional war that relies on fast paced movements, not bogged down trench warfare, mines, pinpoint artillery, and hordes of drones.
@@aletron4750 Did you not understand the definition of human wave tactics? He also pointed out how Ukraine has done the exact same with armored columns. Seems you are who @onepartofone was referring to
@@aletron4750I think Ukraine is winning
@@TotalBS Never said Ukraine hasn’t done this, the war has just devolved to such a point where there is no concrete way to take ground without taking heavy casualties. Russia has just been doing this more than Ukraine due to them being on the offensive more. To me, sending column after column of vehicles at a trench line is basically human wave tactics.
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Western media is the definition of good daily comedy basis
I really like following David Axe from Forbes for my daily dose of comedy. Nobody else can write with as much smug ignorance while pretending to be an expert.
More likely as the definition of pathetic and stupid liers.
start use real photo in perfil first....russian army is like you a bot....never will win nothing only disgrace
David Axe should take some clowning lessons from Zelensky 🤣
Моя страна ведёт боевые действия против большого числа стран, хоть и без их регулярных армий, но с наёмниками и инструкторами НАТО, против моей страны работают самые передовые разведки мира и технологии, совершаются диверсии и террористические атаки, введено беспрецедентное количество санкций, реками льётся ложь в сети. Вам был обещан разгром армии России, границы 1991, свержение Путина. Поймите, мы ведём специальную военную операцию, мы даже и близко не воюем всей страной и так как способны. Если бы не Путин, уставшие от ваших актов агрессии народы России давно бы нанесли ядерные удары по центрам принятия решения в Европе, Англии и США. Вы не имеете никакого морального права создавать на наших границах воинственно настроенные государства с враждебной нам идеологией! Вы оплачиваете это со своих карманов и позволяете политикам повышать ставки. Не думаете ли вы, что у любого терпения есть конец?
бесполезно что либо им говорить, они считают себя не погрешимыми, мы для них варвары папуасы. Мы для них всегда будем врагами по многим причинам. Нашу доброту они воспринимают за слабость.Что распинаться и пытаться им что либо обьяснять, они не поймут, они понимают лишь только язык силы. кто сильнее тот и прав. И мы к ним должны относиться так же как они к нам.
There is same myth about Zhukov. Meanwhile his letters and orders are declassified and anyone interested can read how he literally writes: "Due to recent information about some local commanders taking actions risking soldiers I order every commander from the lowest to highest level to prioritize keeping soldiers safe and using more shells"
Well, Let`s just say he had the worst cards for keeping the soldiers alive.
"Oh yeah, and we are literally racing the other generals at Stalin's behest, so speed above all else."
Some czech make research about it and found that percentualy have Zhukovo smaler loses in humans wave attack as other russian general by 10-20%.
@@Bynk333 if I recall it right it was Rokossovsky with most % loses
@@Bynk333 The keyword here is "Czech", and we all know well enough what kind of info they're selling (Enemy at the Gates BS).
If your enemy is strong make him look weak or inefficient.
sadly no matter how hard i try i cant seem to do that but youre right
aka; if you lose, make excuses to divert blame.
if you win, but at great cost, it's a skill issue, not your fault.
if you win without great risk or loss; clearly you are the superior.
@@LuoSon312_G8 good way of putting it
@@LuoSon312_G8 Elementary school tactics 101
@@timspiker Sun Tzu's Art of War
Interestingly, the D-day attack during WW2 fits in the "human wave attack" definition perfectly.
One could argue that since there was armor that stormed the beaches and there was support from the ships that it wasn’t a “human meat wave.” Although, by the way the veterans that serves there described it does make it sound like a human meat wave attack.
@@Justa_Guy_YT😂😂 doesn’t matter how you dance around it it’s a human wave attack by defenition
@@Justa_Guy_YTThe presence of armor and artillery support did Disputing the facts the infantry being ordered to advance under machine gun fire into the enemy trenches,Use superior numbers to overwhelm the enemy...Sounds like a human wave to me
"Interestingly, the D-day attack during WW2 fits in the "human wave attack" definition perfectly."
Nah, it absolutely doesn't. Conducting an opposed amphibious landing really doesn't leave any room for tactical finesse. You have to get as much material and as many troops ashore as possible to establish a bridgehead and overwhelm the defense.
@@antred11hence meatwave attack? no commander want to do that unless they are forced too, unless they have better tactics
You know when they make movies about this, they're gonna add the Russian human waves despite them not happening.
Just look at wwII movies about the holocaust
History is always written by the victors.
@@stevedownie1378 Мы и есть победитель. Привет из РФ :)
My favourite was Volodymyr Zelenskyy stating this week that Ukraine lost only 31,000 troops in the whole war, but somehow still needs to mobilise 500,000 new troops? Right......
Yup, Ukraine is winning but they still KIDNAP anyone from 18-50 to go to the war. They are even considering bringing back all the men who left the country. But they are winning right?
By that logic russian losses must be well in the millions with even more still alive and pouring into the frontline every day. Because the only possible reason for extra troops in such a case is just because they just can not manage to reload the machine guns quickly enough to keep mowing the rising zombie waves. What can I say, if the ukrainian army itself truely believed in that then they would have already lost a long time ago.
@@KirillissimusТочно! Зеленский считает украинцев за дегенератов, они ведь не раз это доказывал ему.
@@KirillissimusObviously Putin is just a high level lich necromancer who can raise millions of undead soldiers everyday
You don't understand, Zelinsky is a great tactician, Ukraine will be in Moscow tomorrow, and in Vladivostok next week. This is 100% a certainty since Zelensky and Victoria Nuland both told me. 🤣🤣🤣
In one month Ukriane troops will invade Washington cause they stopped the money laundering scam.
"Human wave attack" is like saying "hacker" to someone who actually knows how to play the game.
Hurt feelings need to heal by making up excuses, thus- "human waves"
Facts. 😂
😂Most of the real meat wave attack was done by the British, Cavalry charge during the war of Crimea, battle of Somme, battle of Gallipoli... They said these to Russian and Chinese and Vietnamese because they can't imagine what is actual infantry tactic looks like
Found the rooskirooster gopnik farm.
I bet you wear a bdu in mom's basment too🤡
Real human wave attacks occures in Russian Kherson Region In Krynki, wave after wave ukies send their troops to the death for the sole purpose of making an informational occasion for propaganda, recently they staged a new action and sent a special detachment SSO on three boats, one boat with fighters was completely smashed, all but one fighter was killed, he was captured. Krynki is a real meat grinder for ukies forces
Boat involved, not meat wave.
Magyar sends his regards.
Yeah Ukraine is literally the one using meat waves. Their greatest counter offensive was literally just infantry waves because Russian mines stopped the armor and Russia has air and artillery supremacy. Ironic
@@Deathadder90 Who is it?
...and the shovels. Don't forget about the shovels
Anti tank shovels are very effective in meat wave assaults.
Exactly
Объясните пожалуйста про лопаты ? Причем тут они?
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@@АртемСавкин-т8сидиотские западные сми которые рассчитаны на дураков и невеж, твердят что Русская армия воюет с лопатами против Украины . Смешно
Ещё Шведы, с которыми Петр Алексеевич воевал, жаловались, что русские их мясом заваливают. Методичка за 300 лет не поменялась.
Ага, из-за того что 300 лет назад «шведы жаловались» это опровергает все это видео с пруфами 😂😂😂
Пон
@@sova5490 Но видео как раз пытается доказать что русские *не* заваливают мясом?
@@s4le да, он пытается доказать, что заваливают, когда говорит, что попросил видео мясных штурмов, однако, ему так ничего подобного не скинули
Oh man thank you for doing this video. This whole "our enemy only uses human waves" is something that has pissed me off for years now. When I decided to research more into Soviet Deep Battle doctrine several years ago, I quickly realized how much propaganda I had been fed through both history and even in the [US] army.
The western world has always liked to claim the Russians use human waves mainly because they want to villify and insult Russia. This war has caused me to reevaluate my opinion on the 'weakness' of many foreign nations militaries like China and I try to seperate propaganda from reality which has been quite difficult.
Russia wins all its wars with the meat waves and General Winter.
Implying that Russian people don’t want to survive and don’t get affected by cold is the way to dehumanize them.
exactly don't underestimate your opponent, and the way it is going , us wants to fight china over taiwan, chinese will produce milions of those drones, cuz guess what capitalizm invested in those factories in china, all those drones for example that are being used in russo ukrainian war , well 80-90% are produced in china and us instead of trying to destroy russia could have em as allies, well they decided to invest in china, and guess who's wining right now, china does they get cheap natural resources form russia, sell they stuff all over the world, including fetanyl, , and us goverment do shit all about it , but they are worried about gays rights in russia, not saudi arabia , but russia, that's a fraction of what i've noticed in last couple decades of us politics
The same thing was said during the Vietnam war. General William Westmoorland said "The Oriental doesn't put the same high price on life as does a Westerner. Life is plentiful, life is cheap in the Orient".
The same happened to me when I was researching the Soviet invasion of Manchuria, I'd recommend anyone who wants to understand post-war Soviet doctrine to read the Leavenworth Papers No.7 "August Storm", a US Army historian's essay from 1983.
@@blake4590 its just mega cope,
amerimutt meat wave attacks literally charged at german machineguns until they ran out of ammo lmao
the americans had 100 to 1 casualties in most battles and they fought against un trained recruits while hardened solders were on the eastern front
This video deserve some kind of award for the incredibly objective and intelectually honest analysys
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@@wisborninfo2310 Wow. Finally your mirror reflection works. Now you see what other see when looking at you. That's why you are laughing.
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@@AwesomeRepix Wow. Finally your mirror reflection works. Now you see what other see when looking at you. That's why you are laughing.
@@hk3339 🤣
Thanks for this. The level of ignorance by so-called "experts" (who are nothing of the sort) never ceases to amaze me. As a retired special operator, I taught at the USAF School of Advanced Airpower Studies and the USMC School of Advanced Warfighting as well as Joint Special Operations University (a faculty member at the first two and adjunct faculty at the latter). I never once described myself as an expert but, like the narrator of this video, a long-time student of war (as well as a participant). The Russians are the designated bad guy in this conflict and therefore they cannot be described as sophisticated warfighters. They must be denigrated; and calling their operations and tactics "meat waves" or something akin to that is used to portray them as savages. No video evidence is offered because there is none. And explaining Russian successes against NATO equipped and (in many cases) trained Ukrainian formations must be attributed to something. The "experts" have chosen to attribute those successes to mindless human waves of unthinking slavs.
Ukraine Bandera fascists Nazi meat waves
Then it must raise a question, if its winning, why don't NATO adopts it? Because from here it looks like sophistication is losing to suposed barbarity. Then, whats the point of it? And, most importantly, why is it so expensive??
Your generation had people who actually understood war and how to fight it. These new "experts" are clueless. Can you imagine if American troops had to fight a real Army under the leadership of these morons?
@@LightCrasher this is a good point. If the enemy is crushing you using "meat wave tactics" maybe they are onto something. Logic dictates that if this is so incredibly effective then everybody should be copying it.
@@zemm9003 because russia have superior numbers of manpower and a brainwashed population who are willing to drive into a minefield.
Спасибо за правду. К сожалению - опорочить своего противника, это обычная тактика во время боевых действий.
1:20 i remember that clown released video where he "explained" how israel in gaza is self defence but russia in ukraine is genocide. A truly special kind of person
That man is a walking, talking red flag of unrelenting Soviet, err, Western propaganda.
Both are self defense
Israel no@@yarnickgoovaerts
I agree with you. Human-wave attack is a term used to solicite an emotional response, not convey an accurate description. Arguing with someone who holds an emotional attachment to the term is a losing battle. You are executing a factual-wave attack against an impenetrable dome of cope. I wish you well.
you described everything very accurately.
He’s taking money from the Kremlin to spread disinformation….is what he’s doing
There were/are HUMAN WAVES doctrine in many armies of old doctrines/military schools. The whole historical battles were all HUMAN WAVES battles. Only in modern times these tactics are no more used. From Vikings to Romans to Turks and Polish Knights to Napoleonic wars and axe wars, to WW1 and WW2, Vietnam war, Korean...Yugoslav partisan and East Front battles - there were HUMAN WAVES fights... Only nowadays it sound too unrealistic and not clever att all, all sides in need to preserve expensive soldier teachings and equipment... The cost of equipment and uniform of modern 1 soldier is enormous. Nobody is ready to throw them to meat grinder.
And Russia launched wave attacks against Bakhmut and Avdiivka...why else have they lost 50,000 troops taking the latter alone?! Shoigu and Putin have the strategic ability of a pair of baboons.
N@zis used the same propaganda in WW2 - human wave attacks simply overwhelmed their positions. And they were excellent at battlefield photography/video and yet AFAIK there is ONE photo of a wave attack and it is at such a distance it is blurry and you can't make out individual soldiers. So yeah.... where do you think the Ukies learned their propaganda?
As one who has served in the U.S. Army for 30 years, I appreciate your Chanel and commentary very much. Great job my friend!
I also appreciate your honest humor and humanity. Thanks for not referring to Russian soldiers as Orcs, they are brave men and soldiers the same as the rest of us.
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Ukraine Bandera fascists Nazi meat waves
Russians are great people as a whole. Shame they keep horrible people as their leaders.
In France we don't call them orcs but we nickname them Ivans
Exactly, the moment you start to dehumanize people it becomes something else. I can understand if occasionally during war, soldiers do it to numb themselves, which has often ended with war crimes never the less. But when it's used casually on the internet it's much more dangerous.
@@darthveaner3288 Come to Russia, and say me this in face)
On the positive side, they are at least referring to the enemy as “human”.
‘Glass half full’ situation.
its actually meatwave sooo...
Before we had "Russia is using shovels", now have "Russia is using meat wave tactics"...lmao
Don't forget the Washing machine thing.
@@commanderiosifstalin4938Yes so many memes to troll the NAFOs.😂
@@commanderiosifstalin4938What was the washing machine thing?
@@iseeyou6422For the last 2 years, Western media have always talked about Russian soldiers running out of amuunition, shells and missiles, and they have nothing left to fight but shovels, and Russian misiles are using chips from kitchen stove and washing machine. Hence, whenever Ukrainian troops lose their battles and lose their NATO heavy weapons, people metion shovels and washing machines as Russian mighty weapons that can defeat Western weapons possessed by the Ukrainian armed forces.
@@commanderiosifstalin4938Oh yeah i heard the shovel thing but the washing machine one i didn't
When it's pretty clear Russia's slow progress is because they value soldiers. Been an artillery war the whole time.
"They value soldiers"😂😂
@@dominTom212не поверишь. В России не такое большое население, что бы разбрасываться людьми, за все два года войны, был всего один ограниченный призыв. Неужели странно, что если ты хочешь победить, то будешь разбрасываться людьми? Тем более по большей части это уже опытные ветераны. Люди это основной ресурс любого государства, и стоят они гораздо дороже снарядов, это как минимум рационально. А со снарядами и техникой проблем нет, говорю как человек работающий на оборонном предприятии. Так, что да, у нас ценят солдат.
@@dominTom212 have you been on the front?
@@dominTom212 over tactical shooter games i know about 100 russians. 3 of them have military carrier so they come and go. the rest sits at home or go to work in prime of their life and nobody is being forced to do anything
Russia values its soldiers? 300,000 of them disagree
funny how there is also no footage of Bucha massacre, even though every one and their dog has a cell phone cam (soldiers and civilians)
lot's of buildings have security cameras
drones are overhead
etc etc
There is, from the sat images. You are lying because drones where not there
@@Sander-cu4ns they can photoshop sattelite images like no problem, they can use AI to draw anything they want, so image in 2024 is not a proof.
@@Sander-cu4nsshow the satellite image? If not then fudge off.
@@Sander-cu4ns
Are you referring to the March 19th sat image by Maxar Technologies? Because that would imply the bodies were lying there for over 2 week which isn't consistent with their appearance.
British intelligence needed this so that there would be no negotiations.
1. The message, with reference to the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine, said that during the military conflict, 1,126,652 military personnel of the Armed Forces of Ukraine did not survive and went missing.
2. “Meat assaults,” as we call them, are organized by the Ukrainians, they catch men on the street at gunpoint, take them to the front, there they go on the assault and all die on the same day
Finally someone pointed it out well .
Even us Poles know very well that Ukraine lost over 1million if no more soldiers and they are unable to get more and they knew this so they opened up ILDU for foreign fighters because lack of man power now approximately more than 2 million fit Ukraine men escaped the war to EU countries. The problem still lies with the fact that Russia can reproduce more of everything anf I think nato and eu is well aware of this and they are chosing to prepare for the defeat of Ukraine and war with Russia within the next 5 years .
The Human wave offensive strategy is the age old adage of "Accuse your enemy of what you're doing." 18:00
Exactly.. Projection
Exactly.. Projection
No, YOU are using meat waves!
Nazis used to talk about Soviet meat-wave attacks. Good to see Nato using their terminology...
Thanks for the honest reporting!
there are still nazis in Ukraine and of course they use the old nazi terminology of "Russian meatwave tactics", just to proof they are untermensch species in contrast to the herrenrasse aryan Ukraines
How many men did the Soviet’s lose in WW2? I’ll wait, I’m pretty sure the number is many many millions!
@@Stantheman4444 Are you confusing the number of civilian deaths with the military
@@Stantheman4444 the ratio of Soviet combat loses to the German ones is 1.3:1
@@antonvolkov106it is all the same to them. I guarantee that is an american who proudly supports Ukraine, but questions the Palestinians when they resist their occupier.
From what I have read and observed on UA-cam. Russia was using Artillery and Aviation to soften up Ukraine Defense Lines then sending in troops or they were using classic Pincer Movements and Encirclements. There were no Human Wave Tactics used.
этот канал для слабых интеллектом
theyve used those since day1, just logistics was lagging and troop morale was low.
@@effexon Тебя там не было и надеюсь не будет, а я был,я наводчик артиллерийского орудия Мста-Б,наш расчет участвовал в штурме Мариуполя и Бахмута. Вы не очень умный,раз уж думаете что Россия использует "мясные волны". Всегда сначала идёт обработка артиллерией,авиацией и высокоточными ракетами по позициям и стратегическим целям. Только потом начинается штурм с помощью малых штурмовых отрядов отрядов и наша задача(артиллерии)уже является их поддержка. Мы обстреливаем тот сектор или объект, на который нам дадут наводку разведка или сами штурмовые отряды. Никакого массированного штурма солдатами НЕТ! ТОЛЬКО МАЛЫЕ ОТРЯДЫ С ПОДДЕРЖКОЙ ТЕХНИКИ И АРТИЛЛЕРИИ!
@@prapor6390привет
@@effexon troop morale was never low.
Кто с канала ЖоЖеки
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As a Chinese myself, I am so glad that someone has pointed out the myth of 'meatwave attack'. It is just, to put it in simplest way, dumb propaganda and insults not Chinese Army but US Army as well if put under close examination.
People imagine this just as countless soldiers running into the firelines of enemies, which is honestly a straightforward pre-machinegun tactic, and would not stand a chance for the US army with the MOST firepower in 1950, almost 40 years since WWI> Yet there are clearly gains in the frontline by Chinese, so what is the US Army doing if its enemy is using tactics that is like, disproved 40 years ago? It's just straightforward illogical but the people who are so ignorant of military still buy that narrative.
I've seen "Battle at the lake" (Zhang jin hu). I think this is a great movie that shows the tactics of Chineese regiments in Korean War.
I mean, human wave attacks didn't do much good from the Boer Wars onwards. WWI is basically a bloodbath that way, and anything after that is not worth taking seriously. No one was rushing machine guns and artillery barrages after the likes of the Somme showed how ineffective it was, even with covering fire.
I’ve spoken to Korean War veterans and they did describe massive assaults with infantry. Many of whom had no weapons. What else would you call that besides a human wave assault?
The usa is the biggest human wave attacker in history, in the war of 1812 they sent meatwaves to attack canada and had a 100 to 1 casualty ratio, same with the british, also on d day was the biggest meatwave attack in history, also japans banzai charges arent called meatwaves for some reason
@@AdmiralValdemar Many tactics and doctrines were developed during WW1 to deal with trench warfare. It wasn't like they ran into machinegunfire for 4 years straight. Even by the time of the Somme the French had already developed tactics to storm German trenches. The French forces south of the British attacked on the same day and achieved their 1st day aims. It was just that the new divisions and armies that Kitchener had raised were inexperienced and not properly taught those lessons. The same happened when the Americans took to the field in 1918, still using 1914 tactics. Combined arms warfare of infantry supported by rolling barrage artillery and supported by air power and tanks was invented and applied by the British in 1918.
I just remembered you know who did a human wave attack with lack of communication and skill? The British at Somme in 1916.
I think there might even be footage of that.
To be honest, everyone used this tactic during WWI
Yeah that was 116 years ago without any digital technology, and even then it was mindless. Today it’s just insane
@@big_strategic_floppa9487not even back then ! Its a myth.
What happened then, @@zachary8491?
@@big_strategic_floppa9487it was madness at the time, not even the south in the American civil war used that tactic and that was a good 50 years before.
Western mercenaries , who fought for Ukraine and lived to talk about it, don't mention these "human waves" at all. They only talk about the horrors of being constantly pounded on with artillery, drones and aviation bombs.(which is basically how 90% of soldiers on both side die or get injured).
@@joelee3716 How many words do you know in Russian?
Lol, nah they do.
@@vknfriendly все
I saw recently a statistic, light gun's casualties represents only 12% of total casualties in Ukrainian war. Of total deaths, only 6%. This is an artillery and drone war, indeed.
There are some reports of constant streams of Russian soldiers but those happen once in a while.
My personal opinion: such articles are spread to perform “damage control” in media when something didn’t went well on a battlefield.
Thanks for this Alex. I have been laughing at media and politicians referring to 'human wave' attacks especially as Russia has the upperhand in artillery and air support.
Так , как вы сейчас смеётесь, смеялись над нами союзники НАТО и их подхалимы в начале СВО . У нас небыло квадрокоптеров, приборов ночного видения , тепловизоров , артиллерийских снарядов. Но Россия , поднялась и ,,встала на военные рельсы", сейчас у нас этого достаточно и теперь нам это ставят в упрёк , так как у наших противников этого стало нехватать . Постоянно как мантру повторяя, что Россия воюет против маленького государства. На самом деле идёт война России с нато( 54 страны официально участвуют в ней!), а сколько не официально, поддерживают Украину. Но , ничего, мы По-бе - дим ! 😊 Нам не впервой воевать против самоуверенных, на самом деле, трусливых и подлых стран.
РОССИЯ ПОБЕДИТ!❤
@@ТимурЧагдуров-к2укакие соединения принимают участие со стороны НАТО в этой войне?
Tomorrow I will go to the store alone to buy bread in a human wave.
You made my day 😅
Human wave tactics for raid on shop. All of us, Russian are doing that... Some times even more horrible - we're going not alone, but with girlfriend. It's twice bigger human wave. And i'm not even talking about family shopping "raids" at weekend.
tem gente morrendo de verdade numa guerra idiota e sem sentido... tinha que ser um inercio
Calling something a "human wave" attack has always been a way to denigrate an opponent and absolve yourself from a defeat.
We have video evidence though...
human wave attacks do happen but i do agree that the term is used far too loosely these days. the Japanese did so and so did the soviets in ww2. what do you think soviet shock armies or penal battalions where used for?..mass infantry attacks.. i.e. human wave
Unprotected armored columns are motorized ducks.
@@BRANFED Soviet wave attacks are massively exaggerated. The myth started in 1941 when German soldiers witnessed Soviet infantry advancing without support and getting mowed down. What looked like a human wave attack was actually just desperately bad coordination. 'Human wave' was never the tactic. They were just blunders. Of course the Nazis promoted this myth to fit their narrative. Anybody who still promotes this myth should be reminded that they're just parroting Nazi propaganda.
@@BRANFED ww2 was fought by tens of millions and Germans also couldn't support large portion of their infantry with tanks and artillery, so by that logic they also used human wave attacks
Russians master the art of shovel and necromancy 😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣
about time to sell some more dino extract
А ещё мы владеем приручением животных. Медведей. И у нас много медведей. Много не мертвых медведей. С лопатами 😂
Necromancy?
@@kriminellerbusfahrer5991 I think that's from Ukraine claiming that they have wiped out most of Russia's military several times over. So they are either lying or Russia has necromancers raising their soldiers from the dead.
@@kriminellerbusfahrer5991 magical arts of reviving the dead. Like the conveniently reviving ru generals who were supposedly dead and then came back alive and intact just a few days later. It's a joke about ukr claims of killing ru generals which is usually wrong.
Bro, thank you for an adequate assessment of the situation at the front. I am from Russia and I am pleased to realize that there are people abroad who do not spread propaganda and give a critical assessment of what is happening.
It is clear that both warring parties will downplay their own losses and exaggerate the losses of the enemy. But the Western media and what they do, not only does not help Ukraine, but only makes it worse. They are deceiving their own citizens, deceiving Ukrainians, creating a picture that does not correspond to reality of what is happening.
Не обольщайтесь,он вовремя переобулся(тренды поменялись)
До этого он два года упивался "победами" украинцев, просто блохер, просто рубит бабки...
Pro-Poutinan guy,
at west we are people of more reflection, taking time, not passionate like US that can react fast.
But when we will react, it will be big.
Ukr had needed that help long time ago and im sure that with that help, Russian will have loose already !
but because of Poutine menacing of NUclear fire a lot of time, Europeon gov take a lot of time.
Poutine menaces are vanished now because we dont believe him now. We ahve not afraid of him.
We love Russian people but not Poutine.
What help exactly?
@@Sunriverable вы любите пробирку Колина Пауэлла 🤷 и лапшу на уши
Greetings from a soldier of the 155th Marine Brigade of the Russian Armed Forces! Thank you, Alex, for your honest coverage of events at the front! Meat assaults are a thing of the past. Our command has learned Bakhmut's lesson!
Advancing on Novomikhailovka, ours lost 14 guys in two weeks, three were killed. We have superiority in the main types of military equipment, aircraft and drones. The Ukrainian Armed Forces in Avdeevka have lost 12 thousand soldiers in the last two weeks alone! The order did not reach many, and they simply stood still, becoming a convenient target for our strike weapons.
And Zelensky, speaking at a press conference, did not remember about his soldiers, whom he sent to certain death. Former soldiers of the 82nd US Airborne Brigade called Zelensky - Jolly Roger, like in a horror film
NAFO bots are gonna reply to you and say you're bullshitting and you're a putin bot. Just know most of us believe and hear you.
Yes because the thousands of videos of your dead comrades in the army say otherwise.
Where is the film of all these bodies then? Nobody can remove that amount of corpses if they are involved in a fighting withdrawal. If your lunatic number of Ukrainian dead were true. Russia would be making non stop propaganda film of that many corpses.
Uraaaaa Russia 🇷🇺
@@DavePocklingtonno they wouldn’t. Cope Harder Princess.
Смотрю тебя из зоны СВО! Спасибо бро за контент, смотрим всем взводом! Мотострелковый полк 1197 из Башкортостана.Дислокация Запорожская область.
Спасибо за службу
Работайте, братья! Мы вас, из тыла🫡
good luck bro
Suerte amigo, rezo por tu salud y la de tus camaradas, saludos desde mexico, luchan una pelea justa para acabar con el imperio de mentiras occidental.
A real man
Anybody recall the Normandy “meat wave” attacks such as shown in “saving private Ryan” that we lionize and call bravery when we slaughtered our own men?
You don't understand, this is different (c).
I can’t recall the author, but I remember reading an autobiography of a German officer on the eastern front who would marvel at how the Soviets would advance while under fire. Each soldier would advance independently in short bursts then drop down for a few seconds, then advance again. When you have a whole field of soldiers doing this the constant flurry of movements keeps distracting the defenders…. Like a covey of quail. He said that even under artillery fire they would continue to advance… and often have fairly low casualty rates. This makes sense because the troops are all spread out. When I heard you describe the Wagner tactics it used similar principles.
They had massive numerical and resource advantages compared to the Germans. Here it's more even since Ukrainians outnumbers the Russians, but they make up for it with air, artillery and tank supremacy. Not a good comparison.
ukraine is outnumbered by russians most parts of the front. @@TheoOosthuizen-xs2nq
Yeah, there’s also reports about how machine gunners wanted to stop. They felt like they were shooting fish in barrels and felt bad about it. The human waves are real.
@@TheoOosthuizen-xs2nq In the begining of war at most times germans have advantage in manpower over Soviets at frontlines. Suddenly.
wise
А меня наоборот веселит когда западные СМИ говорят, что со стороны России атакуют необученные бомжи с лопатами, которые впервые видят унитазы и асфальт, а с другой стороны супер солдаты украинцы с современной техникой, но «бомжи» все равно захватывают новые територии.
Кстати, забавный факт про Nutella. Украинцы говорят, что мы ее впервые видим и воруем, но до 2022 года к ним она поступала с российского завода 😅 он и сейчас работает, но это не мешает им говорить, что мы впервые видим Nutella
Now that is very cruel if you're giving them Nutella 😖
Хочется пошутить. Русские бомжы с лопатами разбили лучшую армию Европы, вооружённую лучшей техникой США и ЕС. Объяснить этот факт можно только тем, что солдаты ВСУ это сплошные умственно отсталые инвалиды детства постоянно находящиеся в наркотическом трансе, а западная техника сделана из бумаги и умеет стрелять только в компьютерных играх. Разве западные СМИ когда пишут о победах бомжей с лопатами над лучшей армией в Европе и лучшей техникой в Мире, не понимают, что таким образом они унижают солдат ВСУ и всю западную технику?
@@markmanc-zw3tdRight?
Clear sign of russian insidiousness.
Da Cittadino italiano che lavora per l' azienda Ferrero di Torino che produce ed è proprietaria del marchio Nutella, dico che l' azienda Ferrero ha una fabbrica vicino a Mosca dove produce Nutella Ferrero Rocher e tante altre cose buone !!
У этого есть неприятный побочный эффект, это повышает число желающих поехать пострелять в "зомби". И неизвестно чем это для нас обернется.
Россия сила. Россия победит❤🇷🇺❤🇷🇺
I am a sergeant in the Estonian Army (OR-5). I've been in the military for some time now, been actively deployed 4 times, one of them was a combat deployment.
Now, I will say that I had a chance to easily become an OF-2 throughout my years, I was even suggested to by multiple COs that I served with. The sole reason I didn't is because of a common saying in the military (at least here) - "The further you go up the ranks - the deeper you will be in the political shit.", meaning that every officer that passes a mandatory military school (3 years here) becomes very actively politicised. On one hand, there is nothing wrong with that, on the other? You get people like that Danish officer, who spews propaganda shit just to get some views, less so actively report truthful and correct information.
Everyone with a brain, who did at least some service (be that even a brief conscription or just BCT) understands how warfare works and what is required to achieve the victory, and whenever you see the news saying "Women are actively joining forces to REINFORCE the troops on the battlefield", or "Officials look to increase the mobilisation numbers to X" - you easily understand that the war is simply not going how it was portrayed to.
But they will never admit that, and there is a whole list as to why. But that doesn't mean there isn't valid criticism that definitely shows issues with the Russian army (logistical issues, amount of troops, equipment), but that was during the first months of the war, where as they adapted to it quite quickly, and I no longer see epic counter-offensive reports from the Ukrainian side.
Not everyone in Estonia is an idiot 😱
very interesting pov
thanks for sharing this comment
U are the first sensible Estonian I have seen online!
Damn common sense
You must be the smartest Estonian
Unlike a said Estonian that many us of use on this topic we all know, you sound like the only one that realizes the reality here that isn't insane.
''Meatwave'' sounds like a banging new music trend.
I feel like it would sound wet 😅😂
Meatwave is actually a dope band in Chicago lmao
This is what Zelensky listens to on low-quality coke. The Russians took over the high-quality coke plant.
Sound like what will play in gay club
Lol, a synthwave vid recommended by YT opposite your comment.
The only human waves I see are on US southern border.
Спасибо за вашу работу. Очень грустно, что моя страна участвует в этом конфликте. И что противостоять пропаганде толком не может.
Пропаганде не нужно противостоять, это инструмент влияния на сознание и психику как противника, так и своего гражданина. Просто одно из проявлений войны, так было всегда, только под разной оберткой. Это все равно что противостоять отвертке или молотку, они делают свое дело, закручивают шуруп или забивают гвоздь. Вопрос в эффективности и возможности распространять и доносить как можно более убедительно до всех слоев населения определенную информацию, и дизинформацию, слухи, страхи, неуверенность, неэффекстивность, свое превосходство, дискридитацию военного и политического руководства противника - самому противнику.
А с точки зрения обычного человека, маааленького такого, незаметного на фоне всей системы, противостоять военной пропаганде легко - либо ограничить поступление информации до нуля или необходимого минимума, либо черпать информацию только из проверенных источников полностью лишенную какого-либо политического или эмоционального окраса, просто как сухие данные, такие же сухие как состав освежителя воздуха :)
ИМХО
*Perhaps the BEST video you have made. As it gives FULL context and DEFINITION which makes it BETTER than MSM news reports*
Propaganda exist. Shocking, I know. Best achievement of propaganda is convincing people that there is no propaganda.
Wiki has been revriting Russia-realated articles. If you prit screen a page and come back later, it’s different. Adjectives change at best and the very least. All the articles on N A Z s are different now.
What does NAZ have anything to do with this?
@@ethulwulf5351alot actually they even changed the name of the Azov Battalion to the 3rd assault unit but Bandera still lives in them..
Hint hint
@@ethulwulf5351Russia said Ukraine was full of natzes as a reason for the invasion
@@ethulwulf5351 I don't know how to answer it so that the comment doesn't get hidden. Let's say NOW they say that he was a controversal figure. In Ukraine streets named after him and there's some monuments and other stuff.
Wow unbelievable you really don't understand why the rusian behave as they do!!!@ethulwulf5351
Нормально разъебал по фактам. Хотя некоторые эпизоды забыл упомянуть, собственно те, из которых и появился этот тренд с мясными штурмами. Увы, с нашей стороны тоже имеются примеры йоба-накатов с высокими потерями.
About time someone talked about this. Have been frustrated about this for years.
Russian/Soviet small squad tactics have been on par with the west as far back as WW2. If anything, the Red army always had a much heavier emphasis on artillery, over infantry. But they recognized the importance of combined arms since the 30s. Flexible defense, deep penetrating assault with encirclement, overwhelming artillery is how the Soviets won WW2, not human waves. Any "human waves" that occurred were a result of poor coordination and bad intelligence, i.e. blunders caused by fog of war.
So. Imagine you see a group of 20 Russian troops stroll down an open road, about 2 km long, only to get intercepted by 155mm artillery halfway through.
Now imagine that happening twice a day for 3 days.
Do you call that a meatwave?
@@Deathadder90 No. "Meat waves" don't stroll.
@@Deathadder90 Did you even watch the video buddy?
@@Yura135 So, they walked down a road towards enemy positions but aren't meat waves despite not using any form of mechanised protection whatsoever, all because they didn't get close enough to start assaulting?
Yet their commanders organised 5 more platoons to do the exact same thing. But they aren't meatwaves...
What is funny is, that copeplanation feels extra hollow now we see Russians drive open unarmoured Chinese golfkarts towards Ukrainian positions and actually get mowed down with machinegun fire on approach.
"It's just not large enough in size, there for it is not a meatwave attack. If it doesn't look exactly like Enemy at the gates, I won't accept the evidence of my eyes"
@@Deathadder90 Do you have a video of the Russians "walking down a road" and then commanders organizing "5 more platoons"? Do you have video of them getting "mowed down with machine gun fire on approach"?
I have seen none of these things in Ukraine. I haven't even seen a single platoon moving forward, never mind 5 of them. The highest number I have ever seen was a squad, maybe a bit more. Never seen squad machine gun fire cause casualties, only AKs at very short range, or suppressive fire to pin down the enemy.
Infantry squad tactics involve moving infantry forward on foot. Sometimes the artillery and recon don't do their job and people die. But the point isn't to "overwhelm the machine gunner". The point is to do a push reconnaissance: move forward to take positions or force the enemy to reveal their strong points. This is followed by retreat and more artillery, or bringing in air/artillery/armor assets to deal with the strong points.
A "human wave" hasn't happened since WW1, it's all a myth perpetuated to reinforce racist stereotypes, as it's physically impossible to take a position armed with even a singe machine gun. Everyone who went to a military academy knows this.
There is a good video made by the marine corps demonstrating what a properly set up machine gun team with a belt fed machine gun can do: mow down thousands of enemy troops at 300 yards within seconds for hours at a time. A "human wave" of 10 thousand men can not take a single machine gun.
Real integrity when you also provided the debunking of PLA human wave attacks a third of the way into the video. Appreciate your videos dude 👍🏼