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How Close or Winterize Your Pool Yourself
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I come back every year to this same video.. Forever grateful for the money you save me with this video. It’s true not all hero’s wear capes ❤
You have been such a big help, but I’m afraid I’m still too scared to try this on my own. We just bought our first home on October 1st and we have no idea what we are doing. We called our local pool place but they want to charge $450 to walk us through plus another $250 for chemicals. I cried. I’m saving this to show my husband. Thank you so much!
Please be careful all pools are not created equal and doing this incorrectly can be very costly
Do you have to pull off the skimmer flaps ?
Wish I saw this fine video before I finished my shed! Thanks for helping me close the pool for the first time, you’re the best
I watch your video every as a refresher before I close my pool. Thanks for sharing
Seems like your example pool is in a area of the country where it freezes hard and deep in winter.
I'm in Portland, Oregon, where it rains plenty before it freezes. I'd add a step to your procedure where, before reinstalling the skimmer covers, add a thin perimeter of foam gasketing or a tiny bead of silicone caulk to keep rain from filling up the skimmer before a hard freeze comes along.
As I was unacquainted with the Gizmo freeze buffers until seeing your video, I cut up some big blocks of Styrofoam packing, glued them together to make a big coffee-can sized plug, and pushed that into the skimmer to displace all the water. Styrofoam is a great insulator too, keeping or delaying the frost getting to the buried piping.
still the best pool close video - simple and to the point step by step
from a professional that does this for a living this is funny and man you are working way way way to hard
Get you a piece of PVC pipe about 2 1/2-3' long with a threaded bushing on one end, and 90° elbow on the other, You can then add another 6"-1' piece of PVC pipe to the other side of the elbow making and L shape. Turn it up side down and screw it into the bottom of your skimmer. Now when you hook up your compressor it blows the water out of the line and out of the skimmer body as well. Easy Peasy, and quick, at least on the one that is not cross threaded. I then flip the bushing to the short PVC pipe screw it into the inlets so I can pour anti-freeze into the inlets.. Your funnel works well too. Very helpful video.
this is a cool idea, what is the size fitting on the bottom of the skimmer any idea?
@@pappascw 1-1/2” if I remember right
Nice video, after I replaced our pump again, I was told that it was a good idea to put antifreeze in the pump makes the seals last a lot longer since they stay wet.
If you run the pump with no water than the seals overheat and fail. Seals layed up dry are fine, thats the way they are on the store shelf. Just drain the pump before the temp gets below freezing and it will be ok. And if you cant get to it that day, just turn the pump on and circulate the water which will keep your equipment and pipes from freezing until you can winterize.
It’s that time of year again for the 6th year in a row! 🤙🏽
Good job. I watch this every year before i close up the pool
Lots of steps, but all of them necessary and simple enough to do. Thanks, Bob!!
Closing the pool is a lot of moving around and running for things. No doubt.
First-time pool owner, this was extremely helpful. thank you
You were being paged at the end😂 my guys do that to me all the time. Right when I go to finish something... DAD. Love your vids man!! I’m going to close my above ground this week!
Should be easy. My son found a bug that he wanted to show me. It turned out to be a baby grass hopper.
This is my 4 yr watching this video. Thanks again!
4HP shop vac with an adapter for pump's skimmer worked for my 20,000 pool with two inlets on the bottom (half-empty at 6ft depth). Make sure no air leak from a vac. I just push on the top of the vac.
You forgot to blow out the backwash line! It can freeze and break between the shed and french drain.
I recommend you use a wet-vac to get water out of yhe skimmer
I just bought a wet-vac for the pool closing... can i use this to blow out my lines, instead of compressed air?
@@HedelTorres there might be enough pressure, but I would recommend using compressed air (25 - 30 psi) to dry out the lines as best as you can
@@HedelTorres yes I’ve used a shop vac and a leaf blower before
@@HedelTorres shop vac to blow it and suck it
Naw, use a cyclone liner vac, it's what pool professionals use,. You can blow and plug returns when the water is abovegrade.
Thanks while back I noticed frosty ice on back inside fridge went away 2 day ago started getting that fan noise took ice maker out noice all froze in side I have same fridge I think to I’m one person now so I don’t use ice and go in fridge much I’ll try your advice thanks
My sand filter has a "winterize" setting on it. Should I use that instead of the "close"? thanks for the great video!
Best video I have found on this subject, thank you for your thoroughness. Great job!
I’ve watched your video 2 yrs now! Thanks!!
We have the same pool. I did everything according to this video, thanks for posting it btw! I’m having difficulty air-locking the main drains. I blow air in, with only the main drain valve open, but nothing happens. Do you have any thoughts or suggestions? Thanks!
You need more pressure
you have an excellent set up? Your videos are excellent Thank you very much appreciate it.
Where did you get the 1/4 in fitting and could you make a video of how did you use the compressor
Great video buy the way
Thank you for such a detail video, I will try to closed my pool myself with the help of your video. I have questions maybe you can help me out. I notice you have a mesh pool fence installed around your pool, do you have any tips as far as installing it on dirt? Thank you again
Thanks for showing a closing again this year. I still don't feel confident closing my pool. I can open it no problem. I did change the sand in the filter this year though. Our pools are about the same size. I have an auto cover so I have to fill it back up so the cover will close. Looking forward to fall and winter, and your snowblower vids. Thanks for doing your channel, you've helped me on many things. Tom
Thanks Tom, I'm happy you like the channel. Bob
Do you still have to blow out the main drain line if the main drain has been sealed off under a vinyl liner and the plumbing valve is closed?
Hi double thanks for taking time in detail AWSOME ,STUFF) ,hey I'm gonna give a try real handy never tries but hey my question I's was just wondering where should I be on PSI to air generator hookup to pump at what psi setting compressor not sure can you hit me back thanks aprrec, vid.
I have a return that I dont use but like to block it from where it branches off do you know of what I can use? Its close enough to use a hose to spray like great stuff in that branch but I was thinking you might have a better product to use?
First timer, although I did open the pool this spring. I have a similar setup as you. Two skimmers, three returns. Removed ladder, rail, skimmer and return hardware. Water level is below returns. I'm getting 20 to 30 psi out of the compressor, connected to pump using the 1/4" npt. Have tried 1 skimmer at a time and then just the main drain. If I take out the pressure gage, I'm getting air, but not a single bubble. I have a gas heater which is off. What am I missing?
I am so happy while watching this video after I got rid of my pool.
Excellent video! Good directions and explanation of the process.
Great video thanks for the help for a first time pool owner!
Thanks for making your video easy and understandable ... the best I've seen ..
How big of an air compressor do you have in terms of gallons? Blowing out lawn sprinklers requires a very large air pump to generate the volume of air at the necessary pressure, is it the same for the deep end drain? What PSI do you set it at?
Once the underground pool water level gets high enough, i have found the ShopVac could not generate the pressure and volume required to force the water out, so NO bubbles.
Appreciate the video. GOing to close for the first time ever after opening for the first time this year 🤞Pool company wants nearly $500 to come and do it.
Hope you did it correctly. The pool company is liable if done wrong, if you do it wrong it's way more than a couple hundred
Also pumping down a pool can cause liners to float not advised unless is concrete pool.
@@mattf6539 as a pool guy that closes over 100 pools a year I agree with your first statement. Also no need to pump below the returns when closed properly, also it’s better bc then you can ensure there is no leaks in the plugs. But can you explain how pumping it down below the returns will make a liner float? Liners float due to the water table of a given area. When the pool is built that is addressed by putting a blind line below the pool bottom to pump water out continuously no matter the time of year
Good process, but I'll add a few pointers if you don't mind. First, the sand bottle is kinda useless because it is below the freeze line and if the skimmer box fills up (it will) over the winter, the freezing will be above your bottle. I'd use a Gizzmo since it will be at the exact freeze height. The noodle floats on the water and won't prefent freezing much either. It's probably the combination of everything you put in there that keeps it safe. Second, you don't need to put teflon tape on a Gizmo. The rubber o-ring seals it. I love your shed setup, and the drain slit is a cool idea. Wish my pool stuff was safe in my shed. I also give my electronics and the timer a shot of silicone spray to keep corrosion at bay, but mine is outside, so YMMV. Removing the weir door is a good step. I have not done that before.
Pool closed a few weeks now but thanks
Thank you so much for this Clear and Professional lesson of winterizing the pool... I still have a question... I have inground pool covered with plaster... I heard about the plaster could be damaged if will not stay cover by water,,, is that true or is just a fake rumour... Thanks again !
can I do this with dry vac ?? and if I close off returns and set filter to waste or backwash wouldn't it drain empty skimmer?
That pool she sure looks nice! Great build.
Thanks, but this is one project that I did not take on myself except for the electrical, pump install, and salt water generator install.
Can you or anyone tell me what to do with the pump plug for winter? Do I just tie it up and set it on top of the pump exposed? Leave it on the floor? Wrap it?
And do I have to remove that glass thing and is it necessary to remove the guage?
Wont bugs get into those open holes if I remove all the plugs to pump and filter? Is that part really necessary or can I leave them on.
Thanks
What psi would you recommend for blowing out lines, would a shop vac be better than compressor for blowing lines? Thx!
Nice video we've considered using air. Might give it a try next year looks a lot easier. Our process is similar, we use a shop vac to pull the water out of the lines.
Either way will work, I have tried both and like the air better.
Use both for best results
Also better to blow out as much water as possible. Pool antifreeze is good for - 50 c, but more water the higher the freezing temp
I have the same fence, do you take it down and store it once your safety cover is over assuming your is the one that you could park a truck on?
Gee
I wish I knew how to DIY carpentry.
You did a great job.
I have the exact same pool with concrete patio around pool.
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Should line the edge of the plastic pool step at the water line with bags of anti-freeze so surface ice pressure there doesn't crack the steps. Also, as others have said, a shop vac provides sufficient pressure to blow out the lines & also to vacuum out any remaining water so scooping is unnecessary
In addition to them sometimes not being powerful enough, not all ShopVacs with the same HorsePower rating output the same amount, especially if they have a much lower decibel rating. Why? The manufacturer achieves a much safer sound rating by detecting the pressure buildup and automatically dialing down the power.
Can u leave silica filter plumbed and outside? If so do you put a tifreeze thru silica filter or just disconnect and drain as you did in the building?
Can you tell me how much pressure you had the compressor set at. Certainly don’t want 100 PSI! Maybe 30 PSI MAX??
Nice vedio thank you .my pool frozing now what can i do ?
What climate area of the US are you located?
You emphasized on adding antifreeze to the skimmers. What about the inlet on the bottom? Just air blowing? Is it too deep to freeze? I saw people put antifreeze before blowing and stop when red stuff starts to come out. Another thing, what is the point of balancing water and adding the winterizing kit? After 6-9 months heavy rain and thawing ice will dilute everything.
It keeps your water in top shape, that way if it gets too scummy instead of having to drain the water and start over (which can be costly) you just add the necessary chemistry to get the water up to par.
I have a question that I hope you will take the time to answer. I purchased this home 2 years ago and the pool was already here, it was installed in 2001, it has a main drain but there is no lever anywhere for me to switch from skimmer to main drain, yes, I had to use a little submersible pump when the pool needed to be drained for the new pebble tec.(23000 gallons) How do I know if I'm getting the water out of that line?
I like the video !!!! Wonder though if you could make some winterizing parts permanent so you could have summer and winter positions.
Sounds like there would be good money in a solution like that.
Its called an automation panel. It monitors air temp and runs variable speed pump at slow speed and operates spa and pool auto valves, running the spa lines every fifteen minutes, than running the pool lines the same, back and forth until air temp gets above freezing.
But by closing off the return after putting anti freeze would that trap water in the line if it gets in the line??
Thanks for posting!
What keeps the air from the main drain once you lock it from just exiting through the bottom of the pool? Or does it not matter because gravity won’t allow water back up the line anyway? Thanks.
If you close the main drain while the compressor is running you'll create an air lock. Just be sure you you don't let the compressor run too long with all valves closed.
I have to do this tomorrow but how do you keep the anti freeze in the returns ?
There is so many easier ways.
But my advice, wet dry vac. Air compressor like that will not be sufficient. You need a higher volume of air not pressure
I use my high capacity shop vac... easy!!! I also back wash filter before draining but he didn't show to do that.
@@kristinebrady3668 if you are draining the pool you might as well backwash the heck out of the filter. No point in letting it sit dirty all winter.
Excellent and informative vid Doublewide thanks for posting it. Nice work on the pool shed as well. The video was helpful closing my pool. and appreciate the suggested air pressure to set the compressor at (good tip). I have a question is there a reason why a wet dry vac couldn't or shouldn't be used to suck up the water out of the skimmer instead of a cup when blowing out the lines?
The wet vac should work great. Just pull the filter off first and clean it out. It is so much running around and getting tools to shut the pool that it is easy for my to go low tech. with the cup.
doublewide6 Repairs LLC Thanks for the response I appreciate it.
i see in some videos when people are pumping lines full of air they put the filter on recirculate. does it matter to do this step?
thanks. i had to close my pool due to aids and stingrays. this video was helpful.
I'm sure you've learned by now that you needed to drain the pool down much lower to except the rain and snow that will enter the pool over the winter. antifreeze totally not needed and its pretty toxic
Peke's Repose you don’t need to drain the pool any lower man. If there’s a lot of rain it’ll drain naturally at the skimmer collar.
ohhhh you the man 👍🏼
It's Okay oh ok
It's Okay wrong
There is non toxic pool anti freeze, Google it
How do you remove the anti freeze from the skimmer and returns?
You don't. It's non toxic pool anti freeze
Very good thorough video. Appreciate it, thanks!
What kind of antifreeze can you use?
You can use marine/rv non-toxic antifreeze
Great video very detail one question how do you safely remove that antifreeze you added?
Our pool guy says its safe to just start up your pool with the Marine antifreeze. We have done it that way for 5 years no problems
It's the non toxic stuff people use for winterizing RV's and cottages. Won't really hurt.
Quick question. On the main drain, I see you blow it out, but how do you plug it so water doesn’t re-enter the main drain line?
While he blowing the main drain line out he quickly shut the valve off for the main drain. Creating a air lock.
How much psi do you need to blow out the lines?
why not just run the pump a few seconds for the skimmers and it would suck the water out only a few seconds though . is that better ?
Nice video, I can now close my pool. No more paying to get it closed. The only part that I wasn't sure of was blowing out the main drain. Can i use a wet vac to blow out the lines? I have a heavy duty shop-vac 16-gallon 6.5 HP.
You definitely can. I found my leaf blower rigged with an attachment to cover the hole in the return line provided more power but the shop vac should work.
What type of attachment did you put on your leaf blower?
I just connected 4HP shop vac with an adapter over pump's skimmer. It works fine.
Thanks.. awesome video.. much appreciated!
How long does it take you to close your pool.
Because I closed 6 pools with 1 other guy in 8 hours.
Great video! Apparently there is some controversy on lowering the water level. The pool company I used in the past never lowered the water claiming it is better for the cover as it won't get stretched as much when you get a lot of snow on top. This year I did lower the water level some but not so much that return lines are completely exposed. I'd definitely like to have the return lines completely exposed for some extra insurance, any comments on the cover stretching would be apprecuated.
You do not have to lower the water below the return jets. If you blow air through and plug it should be fine, but you can't add antifreeze. The pool will fill up to the top with rain, it is not that hard on the cover unless you get snow on top with no water under it. There is no easy way to stretch that cover.
I know I'm a little late to the party but you could always lower the water below the returns, blow them out add anti freeze, plug and then when your all done add water to the pool for the sake of the cover.
You could also place an air pillow for a pool after water is lowered to help "absorb" the space between the cover and top of the water.
I use an old boat tubing tube…it holds the cover up nicely
The springs take the load not the cover
Is it really that big a deal to have a little water left in the pipes? Even if it freezes its not going to expand enough to crack a pipe. Also if I can't get all the water out of the main drain pipes, is it best to leave all the valves back to the pump and filter open to relieve the pressure?
Probably depends on the layout of your pipes, if you have an elbow that collects water it could break. Just better to be safe and spend a few bucks on antifreeze.
Should I empty pipes in Florida or I can wineries with some water in pipes?
Can ANYONE answer the question about the 2 holes in the skimmer box? No one I’ve seen addresses this issue. Do I need to use 2 gizmos or just 1. Someone PLEASE EXPLAIN!!!
I would use 2 if you have 2 of the same size
I have a similar setup, when I blow air in the lines with returns (2) and skimmer (1) I'm not getting bubbles on the other end... I've got about 20-25 PSI on it with a regulated tank compressor, I have verified air is coming out and the skimmer level did raise but only about 5-10% of what yours did. Any ideas?
turn off all other valves so you are only pushing air through the one you want to blow out. Your problem is that your dropping air pressure because it is going out all other plumbing lines. Let me know if this helps. Bob
Won't you have antifreeze running into your pool in the summer? (First season owning a inground pool)
Marine/rv antifreeze is non-toxic
@@dlun23 Antifreeze kills grass. Can't be good.
Thanks a million
What size pool do you have?
What do you do if the water level in the pool raises in the winter? Do you pump the water out?
I’ve never closed a pool before but i was a lifeguard and cpo for years in order to drain the water you can hit waste like he said in the beginning or backwash for a while
How can i lower my gunite pool below return when the returns are much lower than the skimmer?
close the skimmer valve. Then turn on pump with filter in backwash or waste position... and the water will be exiting through the bottom main drain and can drop the water level below the returns.
@@timgillespie6369 really because pool guy once told me that with gunite pools the bottom drain is for water level below the pool
anti freeze is that premixed with water or 100% antifreeze
Pool antifreeze google it
Question: What PSI do you put on your air compressor? Thanks
I believe he said 30 PSI
Triana Akira thanks!
its a salt water pool? is there a price difference between salt and chlorine systems or do they use the same systems and you just pick to put salt or chlorine in it?
Salt is cheaper because you don't have to add chlorine to the pool, but you need to pay up front for the salt water generator.
Basically the same
Are you going to replace the filter? If so change it to a DE filter.
You just saved me $300.
Pool guy here. Antifreeze is useless. 1/2 gallon in 1.5" line that is 30-50' long will have no effect if line fills back up w water.
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@@VernonCrumpSr I would have to charge a consulting fee
Muy duro un dinero que me ahorraste....,💪💪💪💪👍👍👍👍👍👍
Why am I watching this? ...I don't even have a pool
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Too much maintenance. Seems like the pool design need better and simple innovation.
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I don’t trust those gizmos for the skimmer. The plastic looks cheap and could eventually crack and allow water through. I just use a standard plug. Safer.
Oh and fuck anti freeze. If you do the job right, you don’t need “insurance”.
It's Okay (I’m a professional pool installer-20years) I’ll concede that there’s different ways of doing things and that the anti freeze thing is not wrong per se. But I find it entirely unnecessary.
I blow all the lines out directly from the skimmer (backwards yes) with a 3hp liner vac. Trust me... there’s no water left when I’m done. And on top of that? I have to close some of my pools “full” due to the water table being high(liner would float etc) so in those instances I blow my lines bubbling under water and plug under water.
If EVER there is any water left in the lines, it’s minimal and would NOT damage the lines come deep freeze.
Air is always best. Pink “chemmy” juice in my clients pipes being flushed out come spring is gross and unnecessary.
And for the skimmer plug, I’ve seen only one crack... and that was enough for me to lose sleep at night. Lol! So I don’t see the problem with putting a good ol trusty standard plug and jamming the skimmer up with pool noodles.
Different schools of thought is all.
Pool closed!
I wish as a pool service tech you would not do this you can risk floating liners depending on location and rain
Good thing you don’t do that professionally, you would loose money. LOL. The water in the backwash line went in the return line when it drained down. You should empty the filter and backwash first then blow it out.
I guess we have to start doing this in texas now. smh