SKOOLIE COUPLE | VS. | THE LAW
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- Опубліковано 14 жов 2024
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We're Chad and Zaynah Miner! For the past two-something years we have been traveling the U.S. in our tiny home on wheels with our two cats, Tavi and Akina. The main reason we are living in a van was to get out of our crushing rent in Boulder, Colorado and re-gain our freedom and time. Chad has been a professional photographer aiming to make his side hustle his main hustle for several years now, and van life has given him the opportunity to make this transition (which is super exciting!!). Zaynah has always dreamed of living minimally, traveling as much as possible, and living in a tiny home off grid somewhere with a fully sustainable setup. We plan to continue traveling for the next few years in our van home to save for our long term goal of a sustainable home on our own land - so please subscribe and join the adventure! We also have over 200 videos of our time traveling full time in a skoolie conversion so if you want to see the various vehicles we've lived in check that out under the playlists tab. All the best xx
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Some ppl's life are so mind numbingly boring and dull that everything is offensive to them, that woman repeatedly saying 'we pay a lot of money to live here' I could just hear the decades of resentment of all the years working in some job she hated for the privilege of her house (and mortgage). Thats what it comes down to, they think that you don't deserve the privilege of being there because you haven't had to endure their shitty life or 'paid your dews' like they had to so rather than experience regret they turn it into anger towards you and the freedom you have that they never will.
This is so spot on. We're pinning this comment -- very insightful!
Jayme Capurso 100% agree with this. Plus it was really disgusting how the girl was trying to explain her mom’s medical situation and the guy was like “I DONT CARE AT ALL!!” Wow. What a horrible human being. All that over a bus parked on the street. People really need to get a life. Very rude and I cannot believe the commenters who side with that ignorant couple even an inch. Unfortunately bitter people tend to hate people who have made a happy life with themselves. I would have told to him to fuck right off and if he approached my bus again I’d call police for harassment. They can’t ticket you for sleeping there, where is the evidence? Ridiculous.
This was my immediate takeaway, as well.
my biggest fear as a poc with starting bus life is people like them calling the cops and blowing a situation out of proportion
Yeh, I am looking at stealth truck options because of it...Better to beg forgiveness than to ask permission is particularly relevant to this.
I took a gerontology class in undergrad and the professor said something that has stuck with me for over 20 years...”old people don’t get grumpy, grumpy people get old”. This sounds like a fine example!!
“Since you’re being a complete jerk about this I intend to legally park here every time.... Had you approached me nicely I’d be happy to do whatever I could to accommodate you. “ I’d absolutely dispute the ticket.
Oh we will!
@@LivingZEAL what happened?
I am an old Fart, however your bus is great and is in no way a POS. I am so sorry there are people like this in the world. You are a very kind couple and you are always welcome in my neighborhood or in my home.
Thank you so much for this incredibly sweet comment, Trey. It means the world to us.
I agree. What's so horrible about a white bus?
I’m glad you chose the high road. It’s all too easy when stuff like this happens to try to think of a way to “stick it to them.” But, instead, you chose the peaceful way and gave them the benefit of the doubt. God bless you!
Ugh! I got worked up listening to this! Some people can just be ....assholes....there's no other way to say it lol but remember, there are plenty of good people out there to make up for the bad ones! Good luck on your travels!
Thank you so much for this breath of fresh air, Beth. I can't tell you how much we appreciate your kind words --- we've realized that LivingZEAL and people like you are proof that good will always prevail. Sending our love your way!
Beth Giersz.....Absolutely!!! The man is not only old, he is already dead. To think material things matter so much to him that he was inclined to say awful things to these beautiful young people. Instead of going out to see all the beauty in the US this man chooses to live inside a sticks & bricks on a postage stamp sized lot that cost a lot of money & looks just like the house next door!!! An awful, horrible way to live. Imagine "that" being your dream in life!!!! Judie
Beth, wise words, thank you...
Contest the ticket and request the Officer appear in court.
Yes we since have and won!
Good idea!!
@@LivingZEAL how long did you have to wait for your chance to appeal the ticket?
Omg maybe those rude people should live in a gated secured private community with NO neighbors and NO PUBLIC roads...The bus community should all meetup on the public road and have a fricken picnic. Maybe the disrespectful idiots will move :)
Or out in the middle of the country hahaha you can't live in a neighborhood and then be upset when strangers are near your house. Ahhhh love this comment -- you see us!
Living ZEAL He said you two were "peace, love dope people" .....Before you go visit your mom again you need to make either a bumper sticker or a sign to hang out the window that reads " we're in LOVE, we live in PEACE and our bus is DOPE :) " lol
Smh they “pay a lot of money” to live next to a public road it’s their own fault, if they don’t want to see it they should move! hahah I hate when people expect strangers to accommodate them in the most meaningless ways 🙄
I don’t even have a bus yet (YET), and I want to take part in that...
Uncle Mo! I literally just laughed out loud! Your idea is priceless!!!
don't move your bus for the full 48 hours so they have to look at it 👍🏼
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LOL, and park it right in front of their windows, not on the side.
craig me - You're right ... and archons like those dickheads basically enjoy "feeding" off bad energy like that ... They just ramp "nothing into something" even more! Best in the long run to just move out of their bad karma!
Ha! For sure. Hang your laundry out on it, sit out on the sidewalk in a folding chair reading a book, play a little music on some Bluetooth speakers (be sure to put the bass boost on). Make best use of that 48 hours, right?
I am 80 years old and I like what you guys are doing. Years ago my wife and I and two grade school daughters went from Rhode island to Costa Rica in an old vw buss. Several years earlier we drove from Birminghan England with three other adults in a very old boat up Bedford converted bread van to Romania. This was when it was still communist. What an adventure! Keep it up. You will have many good memories in your old age. May God bless you 😊🙏
Looks like a great place to have a schoolie meet up, hopefully lots show up without mufflers reviving their engines lol
I don't have a bus, but my HEMI Bighorn has a nice throaty exhaust note, I would leave that on high idle for days to annoy them... Send me the invite and I'll get my friends together, we can park tons of bad muffler running shit boxes up n down that street all day and night. PS I love the Bus. I would love just to have a bus, let alone a Skoolie
I live in Fort Collins This county has the most draconian laws and bullshit i am sorry that you had to deal with that garbage. I was homeless here for 2 or 3 years the amount of crap i received from the people there was ridiculous.
Any adult who ends a sentence in “so there!” Is a twat. Full stop. Hahahaha. Wow! Some peeps just have control issues eh. You were so much nicer than I would’ve been to him. 😉 more power to you!
Looked like such a pretty place. We would love to park our bus there for a weekend.
That man is miserable in his life so he takes it out on those who enjoy theirs.
You guys are great. I try not to miss any of your videos , keep it up 😀😀😀😀
Thank you so much, Jason! We are so lucky to have such a loyal viewer of our channel, we love connecting with you here in the comments, and hope to maybe meet you one day. Sending our love your way!
jason Thats what I wanted to say also but had to say my feel. PEOPLE are something else.
jason....Yep!!!!!
rename your bus the "dope hippie bus "
"Don't tread on me" painted on the back.
Yeah, a big sign that lights up in flashing neon at night: DOPEHEAD HIPPIE BUS. FAR OUT, MAN!
Good morning from Arizona!
I feel so sorry for that old man, he seems like he has a lot of hate and angry in his heart, he's sounds like a very miserable person on the inside. Y'all are so beautiful and kind, to go back and try to working things out, your are very compassionate. Sometimes we need to look at people's emotional state and see they only person they are really mad at is themselves. It sounds to me like they maybe can't afford their house (this might be where the hate and angry is coming from). I'm really sorry y'all had to deal with that still, it really sucks when people take theirs self hate out on others. Sending love and good vibes 💕🌵
Ashley Korte....you are 100% right!! If that "mans" material things means more than being kind to this beautiful young couple & their right to be where life takes them he leads a pathetic life. He is not only Old, he is already dead!!!! He is a "human stain". You feel like l do!!! Judie
You raise very good points, Ashley -- and we completely agree. At the end of the day, we won't harbor the anger he possesses because this whole incident wasn't really about us.. they even said they have had issues with other people parking their recreational vehicles in the neighborhood... they clear get some sort of twisted joy from creating these issues. Thank you for your poignant words! Sending our love and good vibes your way, too!
We couldn't agree more, Judie.
The problem in this world is simply people just can't mind their own business. I'm happy because I don't care what people do... My tactic just turn the other Cheek
So much ENTITLEMENT!!! People are so OPINIONATED about how OTHERS live!!!
The "entitlement" is that that old couple are residents, this young couple are not. He could have been a bit more polite and asked these folks to move the rv down the street. But they simply flipped the rv around like a 6 yr old making a statement.
Liberal cities are passing laws to prohibit mobile living and off grid living while conservative cities are promoting it. I would’ve thought it would be the other way around. In LA it’s now illegal to sleep in your car while Idaho, the most backward state I’ve ever been to, is zoning areas for tiny house communities. I live in a bus and I have learned to stay away from cities in general but especially liberal cities and any kind of manicured neighborhood or subdivision. It’s been very interesting to see the dramatically different response I’ve received .... I hate to categorize like this but liberal cities have almost taken everything I own via towing my vehicle and handing out tickets while in conservative states like Idaho and Texas and Tennessee people were very friendly.... even given me money and food without me asking or needing help. One guy gave me $300 dollars Another person gave me a beautiful antique dresser. I’m not politically minded but just wanted to share my experiences. Stay out of liberal environments and maintain your freedom.
Michael Mccauslin even a non political person can see
Thank you for sharing your perspective with us, Michael.
This was a really interesting read. Thanks for the heads up!
That’s bullshit. Of course a crowded “liberal” city like LA is going to have laws against this. Just like the three people in Bumfukt, Tennessee haven’t the need for such a law. This really needs explaining since tribalism eats away at the logic portion of one’s brain, though.
Andrew Pearson Except this liberal society is now on the fast track to fascism thanks to conservatism, not the other way around. The height of conservatism is controlling how people live their lives and think, under the guise of “christian morals.” Liberalism values freedom of thought and expression. Conservatism values hive thinking and assimilation. Just thought I’d clear that up for anyone reading. ;)
Wow, ur bus actually looks better than the neighborhood school busses. I hate people who think they are better than everyone else. U handled that situation, way better than would have.
Future skoolies here and we are stunned at some people and their ignorance. Seriously. I am sitting here with my mouth hanging open shaking my head. That guy is obviously a very unhappy person. So sorry you guys had to experience that. You guys are awesome, stay strong! 💖🤗🙏🏻
Thank you so much for this incredibly supportive and loving comment -- we were equally as flabbergasted by how this entire situation was handled. Our hope is that when you embark on your own skoolie lifestyle journey that you never run into individuals such as this man. We are sending our love your way -- thank you for your kindness.
Born Wandering Lisa...Sticks & bricks, living on a postage stamp sized lot, paying all that money & having a house that looks like the house next door & having to live next door to people just like yourself? If that's his choice so be it, but to be unkind to ZEAL is ridiculous! Maybe if they they thought they could park there for a week or so, but to be there long enough to visit her Mother? Really!!! Maybe those people (the man) should PAY ALL EXPENSES FOR THE STREET IF HE (and his community) THINK OTHERS SHOULD not BE ALLOWED TO BE THERE, BUT IT BEING A public STREET PAID FOR BY all, WHO DOES HE THINK HE IS!!!!! Very sad situation!!!! Judie
hitchhiker agreed. It’s sad and it blows my mind that he could be so rude for no real reason and not even be willing to hear her or understand when she was trying to explain the situation. He was on the offensive right from the get go and nothing anybody could have said would have changed his mind. And him threatening the police against them was shameful. Let’s waste the time of law enforcement for no reason other then his obvious and apparent ignorance. Having lived in a traditional house our entire lives my husband and I can’t wait to convert our bus into our tiny home and live a simpler life all around. We can’t wait to actually see the beauty this country has to offer and be done with the rat race we’ve been stuck in.
Born Wandering Lisa....agree with you again!!!! Judie
I have neighbors like that. They go around the neighborhood complaining about what people do in their own yards. They even told me my dog was too big and suggested I move. Safe travels. Love the skoolie.
I had a neighbor years ago that walked the neighborhood checking inspection and registration stickers on cars, the entire neighborhood hated him. Well he called the Cops another day (This is like 5+ X's week), the Cops got sick of his shit, the police officer asked the homeowner, " want to press charges and I'll haul him off" ... The guy said Yes... He called the police on me for riding my bike on sidewalk when I was 7 years old, I was a serious threat w those Training Wheels, what was I thinking, I must be pure criminal
That guy is such a miserable prick!! Wow my blood pressure started rising. It makes me sad that people just refuse to coexsist.. Btw your skoolie looks great :)
Ok you both are legit going in my wholesome list of people. You two cool people.
You guys were parked in a public street..If you blocked his driveway that's one thing ( I myself am guilty of going outside and cursing out people blocking my driveway) but you were on a public street not disturbing anyone.... If it's such a big repetitive problem for them they should speak to the town and have notices posted on the streets. The one thing that did worry me is going to his house....depending on the state you might be be breaking the law and are putting yourself in danger. Some states have old blue laws on the books that give permission to shoot someone trespassing on ones property...so in the future please don't put yourself in such a situation. As far as the ticket goes you should be able to fight it very easy. 1. You were parked there for a short time visiting someone in the vicinity (therefore you weren't just pulling up and staying in the area for no reason) 2.you were not in the vehicle and if you have smart phones your GPS will show your location so you can use that to show you were not technically living in the vehicle when the ticket was issued. 3. There is no notice stating you can't park there
Very good points raised, Leo. We have talked to the HOA board on numerous occasions about this man, and he has been told not to call the cops, and why we are there visiting. He is just trying to stick a thorn in our side repeatedly... why... I don't know... he must have a lot of extra time on his hands. As for going to his house, that obviously did not work. His wife was very receptive to discuss the issues with me that's why I continued having the conversation, but the man was extremely irritated.. CO is a stand your ground state I believe.. so this is something I will definitely consider if ever in this position again... not worth putting my life at risk to attempt finding common ground with crazies. Thanks for your comment. We are definitely going to contest this ticket, and will be letting you all know the outcome of that.
As long as they approached the front door from public access & left if asked to do so by the owner it's technically not trespass or a 'stand your ground/castle doctrine' issue. As far as the ticket for living in the vehicle, if you weren't on the premises when the ticket was issued and/or past the 48-hour permitted parking statute, the ticket is invalid. Zaynah, if the guy continues to harass you when you go visit your mom, sue him in small claims for harassment and libelous behavior for repeatedly calling you hippie-dopers-you know he used the same language with others whom he spoke to about you. FOIA any bodycam footage from any cops called by him and it'll prove it - as well as prove you weren't on the bus at the time of the ticket/tow notice.
@@NunYaO You can't sue for harassment or libel in small claims court, you can only sue for actual monetary or property losses. And you need proof of the loss.
@@golden.lights.twinkle2329 both harassment and libel can cause verifiable losses...those losses can be recovered in small claims, when below the courts monetary limit, or in open civil court. The cost of the ticket, if fines were assessed, as well as lost income to attend traffic court, even if no fines were levied, are just one example of actual losses that could result from an individuals pattern of harrassment and libel. I suggested small claims because the amount of the ticket and any lost income wouldn't have exceeded the maximum limits of the court.
Furthermore, in some instances, libel can effect ones ability to earn...and that's absolutely quantifiable; especially if you've already succeeded in securing a favorable decision from a small claims suit for the cost of the ticket...i'm not sure if you are an attorney; but if you are, for the sake of your future clients, start thinking like one!
God bless you both and they probably couldn’t AFFORD a gate community!
Lol thank you, you too!! right?!
My wife and will be leaving soon in our bus would love to park near his house and have him try that with myself.
Hahahah we've had so many ppl in the community say that... no need to muddy your energy with these unfortunate humans. We'll let karma take care of them ;)
Park next to their house and all your friends, break everything out, even the Pop-ups. If you're ever in NY you can park in front of my house, you can park in my driveway, you can hitch up water and I'll throw in Electrical.
My furballs go with me everywhere!!
What they view from their private property is there problem... no one told them to pick that house on that street. They claim they pay a lot of money there but you also pay a lot of money registering the vehicle to use public roads. And if there’s no, no parking posted then anyone and any type of vehicle can park there. See the public sidewalk near the road... from that to the road doesn’t even belong to him, so technically you could pull out chairs and sit there. He can complain about his view all he wants, he controls his eyes and where he looks and if he doesn’t like it he can look elsewhere.
So very true. To think someone believes the world revolves around them to the degree this man does... is absolutely staggering. We will be contesting the ticket and letting all of you know the result of that when it's all said and done.
@@LivingZEAL
If the bus is lic. RV - it's an RV...
RV means living within - i believed i heard someone that refused to come to the door - was informed that it was parked overnight....
👀 the 🎮....
The problem with buses is the design... That is the legality of it - why i would have had a city 🚌...
School bus to RV has a bad rap... City bus does not... It should not matter - but assholes think funny! They see school bus as hippy wagons and city buses as upper class motorhome....
Both may cost about the same - but school buses have been used by the lower class 💉 addicted as homes for a long time - it's like vans being called rape mobiles...
wegotschooled.com/2017/02/22/so-you-want-to-buy-a-bus/
You guys are too nice. If that happened to me I'd be parked right in front of his house for 48 hours.
Hahahah we highly considered it...
Hi Guys! Wow! He's going to die an old bitter hate-filled man while you are out seeing the beautiful scenery and being happily in love. I think that alone is poetic justice. I would like to make a great idea come to life based on your story... Let's have a Bus-In on that street this summer! Every bus within a hundred miles pulls in at 6am, lines both sides of the street, respectfully enjoys the scenery of such a neighborhood (I hear that some people pay a lot of money to live there *haha*) then at 8pm everyone drives slowly into the sunset waving to the nice couple in the pricey house. Preferably a day that they are having a nice dinner party at their house! I live in SLC... I'll be there for sure!
Wow, just to add to below comments. You have an awesome looking bus! It doesn't look broken down or trashy at all. I would love to have a bus that nice! That couple clearly can't imagine anything beyond their television. It's really sad how much of our country is like them. They represent everything I never want to be.
I would start sending them post cards about your adventures. Tell them how you meet some wonderfully kind people, stayed at an amazing winery and enjoyed a lovely red wine with the owners, hiked a mountain to overlook a national forest, listened to the waves crash by the ocean as you fell asleep. Let them know you're living your life to the fullest. :)
Is it wrong that I to investigate where he is. Then line his street with dirty kid buses every weekend? Muahahaha Peace, Love and All That Hippie Jazz :D
Hahahahah we were thinking the same... we'll let karma take care of him....
Community Coz haha I feel a hippie festival coming to a street near him 😂
I was thinking the same thing. I'm six months out from having a Short Bus converted into a Boutique.
I wonder if he'd have a fit at me selling stuff across the street from him? ;)
Coz, this guy should be REALLY, REALLY happy you and your community neighbors aren't his neighbors! (Slab City residents rubber-tramping to this town soon!) You could smooth things over by offering to whip up one of your home made off-grid meals -- LOL! This guy really needs your 4 questions interview about his neighborhood so we can all find out what he really doesn't like and what he really wants to change. Since the video shows the street signs, I did look it up, then I looked up the subdivision info. This schmuck should have bought a house in the MIDDLE of the subdivision where cars can't park on the road instead of at the edge of the subdivision on sided with public streets.
I am going to find out his address. I really wanna mail him a sack of shit or something. :P
My wife and i are about to start our own Skoolie adventure and thank you for the great info and support you send our way
thank you for watching our channel, David! We hope your conversion goes exceedingly well for you and your wife - feel free to reach out to us at any point along your journey, we're here to support you!!!
Love u guys.. just bought my bus to convert and Im taking notes ✌️
Oh good! We are so glad to hear it! Let us know if you have any Q's we can answer as you're taking notes ;) sending our best!
I’m old and ready to retire; just bought a bus, as you know, and will be fixing it up and living in it soon. Not all old people are mean LOL 😂😂 But I had a old neighbor once that called the police on me because my children were too loud playing on their swing set. Wow! it takes all types. I guess? 😳 Good luck so glad y’all made it back safely. Best wishes on your upcoming wedding.
It’s a shame that common curtesy and basic respect is no longer a part of our society. Just because someone is choosing to do something differently from you doesn’t make it wrong. I’m personally appalled at how this individual treated the both of you and hope that one day he looks back on how he acted and realizes how out of line he was. For the both of you please know that this incident isn’t about you personally, but is demonstrating the differing viewpoints and change that is currently taking place in our society. Thanks for all you do and keep moving forward.
Belinda, thank you so much for this comment. Chad and I were just having that discussion about the changes occurring within society today regarding alternative living... how it's soon going to become a necessity for some... yet illegal for many. We hope to part of the growing movement to push society forward and make this lifestyle more accessible for all -- when people are happy, truly happy, living their best life, the whole of society benefits. That's what we believe, and that's what we've gotten out of bus life. We will never give up -- thank you so much for your encouragement and kindness.
Belinda Nwagbara....you are so right Belinda. I doubt he will ever know! Can you imagine choosing sticks & bricks, living on a postage stamp sized lot, paying all that money and having a house that looks like the house next door and having to live next door to people just like yourself? If that is what he prefers so be it for him! l can't imagine l would enjoy seeing ONE Day (on video) in his life & l can't wait until ZEAL comes out with another video of their life!!!! Judie
WoW unbelievable Its all about them Your bus looks really nice! They dont understand and not willing to understand
Someone needs to dump a pile of used tires on his front yard! ;-)
🇨🇦 VIKING VAN MAN ! Boy my blood started to boil even !!!!
Lol the cats looked like they were doing better than ok :) they were snoozing away 👍
They loooove bus life :)
I’ve had a Issue with neighbors right as soon as I purchased mine. Anyway long story short the city got involved and let me be completely. I love your videos. Im in Greeley Colorado
I'm old & l love you! So many people with lots of money are so closed minded. There way is the only way and their doors are closed to people that have other ideas! The way he called you hippys is so aggravating! There is a whole "movement" of RV people & so many of them have kind hearts & will help when help is needed. They go around cleaning up (trash) after, probably people like the "old man" that was so bad to you! Your good, he's not! Your kind, he's not! You would help anyone, he wouldn't! You are good people....he is a Human Stain on GODS beautiful Earth! Like you said, GO & stay away from people like him! The world is full of shit & you are full of dreams!!! Keep going, the dream is still there & stay away from material bound people! Love you guys, Judie
Thank you so much for this comment, Judie. You are always so poignant with your words and we appreciate you beyond anything we can begin to describe. This comment in particular warmed our hearts. We felt so beaten down yesterday by this whole situation, and it is people like you supporting us that reminds us to keep our spirits high. You have no idea the positive impact you have on us. Thank you, Judie (which is also my moms name by the way :) As always, sending our love.
ZEAL...I am old enough to be your Grandmother & possibly Great Grandmother (75 years) & l love to watch you and your adventure into life! I, thank the LORD, am still very active & dream like you do, you are living it for me! Skoolies stick by skoolies they don't seem to "hang around" with others so much. Maybe they do & l just haven't seen it much! Not only do "we" dream, but we're sensitive too! Another wonderful way to be!!! To us the Sun is brighter, the sky is bluer, we see things other people look right past, a beautiful scene will knock our socks off, we love animals & other people, we will notice a pretty stone, on & on, we are BLESSED!!! "The next time you see a beautiful Sunset...remember that feeling! Many times it will heal your Soul when someone or something hurts it, just close your eyes & see the Sunset! The LORD begins our day with a breath taking Sunrise & ends our day with a breath taking Sunset. People that don't have Jesus Christ in their heart are unkind (l don't mean religious)! How pleasing that is to me to share your Mothers name, thank you for telling me!!!! Go, beautiful people & live your dream with another day!!!! Love to you always judie
You guys have a great, peaceful attitude about this situation. God Bless you in your travels!
Thank you so much, Becky :)
I'm so glad I watched your live stream video before I watch this one. So many things that man said were so ugly. Love watching you guys and Out of respect for you too and your channel I'm not really going to say how I feel about this man. I will close in saying i'm really glad I am a 62-year-old hippie and not a crotchety old bastard LOL safe travels
We LOVE this comment so much. You are what we aspire to be at 62!!!
Living ZEAL thank you so much for the kind words they meant a lot.to me. To watch you on this part of the journey in your life is quite refreshing! You are such a nice couple. Looking forward to your live stream on Sunday.
You guys are so sweet. MUCH nicer than I would have been but then I am a troublemaker. :) Bless your ever lovin' souls. I think the real problem with people like that is that, secretly, they want to be you. They are envious of your free wheeling youth. I know because from 1979 to 1983 I lived in a VW bus. Then I went and did all that nasty mortgage, live in a cubicle crap. The dreaded 9 to 5. I am 57 now and have health problems so I am living vicariously through you. Thanks for the beautiful adventure!
Don't let bastards like that get you down... Best to walk ...no run... away from that kind of energy.
So very true. Thanks for your comment!
If I was the cop and heard what happened, I'd have charged the resident with "disorderly conduct" and "disturbing the peace" and had HIM appear in court so a judge could see and hear him. The judge might have ordered a psyche evaluation on HIM.
The "get off my lawn" couple are complaining that they paid too much for their property. If they are offended by that and the fact that they hate everyone, they should just find a deserted island.
If that bus is offensive, I'm sure he's offended by schoolchildren too. After the construction, they're going to be tightly packed by more neighbors they hate.
Gah!! Sorry for existing, rich people! Z, you should be very proud of how diplomatically and respectfully you handled that conversation. 👍👏✌
Hey thanks so much for this kind comment!
I payed a lot of money to live here so don't you dare park your bus next to my sprinter LOL.
Maybe the old man & his community should pay for the paving & upkeep of the street maybe then they can pick & choose who can use it! lt is hard for me to imagine living in a sticks & bricks community with one house looking just like the other and being so expensive (a fool is born everyday!!!. It looks like a glorified mobile home park!!! Or the housing communities build for the soldiers coming home from the war years ago!
Hitchhiker I paid $14,000 to repair and pave the road in front of my house. So yeah the guy is a jerk but I wouldn't be surprised if he is paying for the road upkeep.
Hahahahahah
His neighborhood voted three years ago to be annexed into the city of Fort Collins, so besides his tax dollars, he doesn't pay any extra to maintain those roads. We've also discussed this issue with the HOA in his neighborhood and they have told us that this is an ongoing problem with this man and people in the neighborhood that have RV's.... he's just a dick.
I’d like to know what street do I can park a dirty hippy bus there every week. Fuck Chad and Karen
"You are just peace love and dope" hahaha I was dying laughing. I say you bake him some edibles and deliver them lol
Hahahahah omg I love this
I am so sorry you had to deal with this.
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You guys are so sweet to have to deal with that jerk.
Thanks for this kind comment :)
Gorgeous cats and couple. I'm glad you appealed the ticket and won. Depending on where you go police officers think they are "the law". The bus looks better than his bland house.
Trying to reason with someone who is antagonistic, hostile or angry toward you is usually futile particularly if that person is chronically that way (like that guy). You would have been better off just acknowledging him and moving it far enough away from his house so he can't see it. You had every right to be there but trying to argue your point was obviously futile and ended up getting you that bogus ticket.
Very true --- I always hope that reason is an option with every human but I'm learning more and more that with some people.. it's too late for reason. Thanks for watching and for the thoughtful comment
"Excuse me me me meeee" clearing his throat to start singing 😂
Hummm, guess y'all needed an $120,000.00 motor coach, suit, & tie for it to be perfectly fine! Maybe he would have offered his driveway! 🤔😂😂😂😂
Living ZEAL
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is like Living REAL!! I love how you all do this together and make a life about it all. Its an amazing thing to see you experience every different place life has to offer you have a good time doing it your cousin Sean.
Cuz, I love this comment, you're awesome and it was so nice hanging out with you yesterday. Zaynah really wants to meet you and check out your land once I told her all about it. I'll give you my # once I get it today! :)
Totally just noticed the pin!!!!! Awesome guys!! =D We have neighbors in our current place that call the cops any time we park a vehicle on the street outside of their house. Super annoying but that person's life must be pretty miserable if they feel the need to complain all the time. I can't imagine what it must be like to be that bitter and unhappy. Keep being awesome and don't worry about the people that don't get it. They should've built a house on wheels so they could just drive it away from "unsightly views." ;-)
Glad you guys fought and won this tickets. Giving in like some people suggest only empowers more jerks to do that to others. Stand up for yourself and protect others at the same time. Congrats and good luck on the road.
I am sorry this has gotten to you. It would me too. I hate being confronted, especially when they aren't even RIGHT. I would have been scared and mad and shocked. You guys are going through a kind of PTSD of sorts. I can't help but wonder what that guy was all about. First I thought it was someone with real money, and maybe that's true, but I think even more it was someone who needs to overpower anyone he doesn't think will bow down. The cop, ?? I don't know what his problem was. My son is with the county Sheriff's dept in Santa Cruz County and I know he would have stood by the law and told you if there was any more trouble to call him again. The homeowner, Mr. Too Big for his Grouch Pants, probably is known for being this way. You two were just unlucky enough to be his latest victim. I worry about his blood pressure, good grief!
Hahaha his blood pressure! right?!!? thanks for the great comment Robin.
Well, some people cannot stand having control of everything. They should prey that they don’t have to eat their attitude. You all keep on keepin on!
Thank you for sending some love & support our way, Becky ~
I would like to see someone with one of those million dollar RVs park next to his house and ask him to move his POS house away because it is embarrassing to have such a substandard house that close to such a well appointed and expensive living structure.
"My million dollar RV is offended by the substandard cost of your house and it's location. Knock it down and rebuild it somewhere else as it's blocking my view of the mountains!" 🤣🤣🤣
Crumbs, that guy is a real piece of work!
A note in the window for the policeman may be useful next time to avoid hime ticketing it.
Man, this sucks so much but you guys handled it with class!
Thank you so much for watching & commenting. Sending love your way!
*in New York accent* I wonder if that old man likes his knees... perhaps he would like to hold them in his hands? Eh, Vinny, grab my bat! I need to have a little... heart to heart with this "gentleman".
We are such a diseased society. Compassion is always at the bottom of the list, and both of their go to lines are "we paid a lot of money for our house", so in turn they are saying money is the most important thing, and way more important than your situation. But remember, the law is always going to side with the property owners, so if you don't want to see a law passed, out lawing that very way of life, than stay out of those situations. Out of sight out of mind. Sucks. But that is what the whole mobile community is facing, in place after place. Forget about your rights, because they can be easily replaced, then what? So maybe walk a little further, to avoid the drama, and future draconian legislation.
I just realized you have a pretty cool screen name.
Your a peace, love, dope, person.........priceless. lol.
the old man was the POS, I had a neighbor lady that was like that, waiting to be offended, she used to say I lived here for 40 yrs I don't care how long you lived here doesn't make you queen or king of the street.
I love the term " crotchety old bastard " .
I hope those people awaken from their delusion. They're ridiculous. Keep doing you.
Thank you for this comment!
That just shows where his consciousness is, those poor souls are suffering and miserable. I wouldn't wish that life on anyone. Wouldn't live in that house if you paid me! Keep shining your light, you two are beautiful and so is your sweet bus.
We agree completely -- thank you so much for your incredibly sweet comment, Diana!
He probably secretly has always wanted to convert a school bus, and is totally jealous because he's completely locked into his current lifestyle.
Ya know, I was thinking the exact same...
Hello i like watching all your posts and im trying to get the feel for building a bus so i can trave i was wondering what it cost u to build the bus
I agree, I can't even listen to them talk. I want to go to that street and park there just to make them angry.
it's amazing to us that all the people who disagreed with this video, didn't live in a bus. Thank you so much for the comment and keeping the community strong!
The Skoolie
So living in a School bus gives you the right to break the law . If that's the way life works then the homeowner should be able to burn your piece of shit bus
@@sarahann530 Doh. They weren't breaking the law. They were legally parked for 48 hrs.
BJ
Post the docket # of the Court action which shows they were parked legally . By the way it looks like your hero here is a self confessed thief so really not the type you want parked in your neighborhood
James Michael
So you live beside a parking lot for cattle trucks , that sucks man !
Hmmm, "Dope Hippie Bus"... Hey, I like it! ;)
Where's the seatbelt?
The seatbelt...?
I have a question my first time catching you guys, but I'm researching getting a bus... What's the hi way speed you get going down the road, seems as if you were moving right along.
BTY if you ever come to tenn. your welcome to pull in and stay and visit TIE TIS
Just avoid conflict and move. Why look for conflict!
We hoped that this wouldn't happen again, but considering this is where my parents live it's sort of hard to just move and never come back.
Arent there any space right in front of your parent’s house or just a bit closer? If they’ve lived there for 10 years then they shouldve known your parents and not make a deal out of it
The days of Christianly loving your neighbor are loooooong gone in the US.
@@yd5736 Did you watch he video?! They explain about that....
Haha you guys should disguise your bus as like a travel tour bus or something 😂
Next time in a similar situation do not be shy about using your camera and your platform. People become much more respectful when their actions are held accountable. Remember the laws are there to protect you just as much as any cantankerous old man. If they are so offended and they'd like to change the laws in that neighborhood, that's on their time and energy, but should not be yours. Contest your ticket, absolutely, and remember you have rights too. Welcome home :/
Hope Epoh...if the old man wants a private street, let him & his community pay for the paving & upkeep instead of the tax payers!!!! Judie
Judie,
I personally believe in government. If his community would like the law changed and in doing there is a broader community discussion, I am happy to pay taxes to enforce it, just as if the nomadic movement joins together for protections under the law, I am overjoyed to contribute. To me that is being an American, and my view doesn't alway win, but I appreciate being a part of the conversation.
Very true. Chad thought to film the whole thing but I told him not too.. I guess because I was scared to piss the guy off even more, but you're right that might have worked in adverse had we pulled out the camera. We will definitely contest the ticket and let you all know the result -- thank you for watching and commenting!
Agreed!
I think your comment that this obnoxious guy is upset about his view of construction and can't do anything about that, therefore he took his frustration out on you was spot on.
The guy made some reference to "peace and love" hippydom!! What is this the 50's, the 60's? That's just bigotry. I haven't heard a hippy slur since I was a kid and I'm 55! Good luck. I think more time and activism has to be spent on the politics and legal issues associated with camping, vehicular living and nomad living.
We definitely agree with you, Michael! Thank you for watching this video, and commenting your thoughts :)
Stay strong and stand your ground. You didn't do anything wrong. If they don't want to look at vehicles parked on the main road, they shouldn't have bought a house that's along the main road. People like that make me sick. I'm a truck driver in utah. They have restricted engine brakes at the bottom of Parley's Canyon because people decided to build homes right next to freeway and they don't like the noise. My rig weighs 105,000 lbs when I have both trailers on. I have to use my engine brakes or my regular brakes will fail and then I'll have a run away truck. I'm tired of having to fight tickets because others are selfish and want everyone else to change just because they moved there. Every time I fight the ticket, I win. Definitely fight your ticket! It won't be hard to win!
We couldn't agree more. That's absolutely insane! I've seen those signs and Chad just explained to me what it meant the other day... people set themselves up for this and get pissed when what they don't want comes into fruition. We will definitely fight this and let you know how it ends up!!!
Some people will have pre-conceived ideas of vehicle dwellers: stoners, hippies. I guess he doesn't want any free love going on in HIS neighbourhood!! He was NOT at Woodstock!!
Personally, I'd move so I could drop acid and listen to my Pete Seeger records in peace. 😉
Exactly!~ We will never be back near that hateful POS.
People that live in vans or buses, hippies stoners the Punisher or other non make believe Marines like myself who want or need to be mobile
What do you do for insurance? I'm having a hard time finding insurance coverage for my converted bus. My landlord requires that I have insurance on my vehicle in case of fire(I live in the forest on their property)
Hey, what happened stinks for sure. You folks clearly know the law and were within the law. But knowing this spot has caused problems multiple times in the past, why not park further down the road to avoid this area? just curious.
We have tried that a few times, the reason we parked there is because it's at the very corner end of the neighborhood... so in our mind we are trying to avoid as many people as possible by parking where we did. Although, this man was clearly not the person we wanted to be parked next too.... At this point, we are just going to avoid this neighborhood indefinitely and find a place 4miles away to park the bus, and then take our bikes out to drive and see my mom. It's an extra step to take but if it means not dealing with this toxic individual that is just fine with us.
I know this is an old video, but I just found you guys & I give you both a lot of credit to follow your dream. I have two sets of relatives who retired & have been traveling the US for over 10 years in very large coaches w/ tow behind vehicles. My uncle & his wife had sold their home & live in their coach year round. They have a mailing address in a popular western state which has no income tax, then their mail gets forwarded to wherever they are living at that time.
One cool thing I leaned from my uncle is that by joining a Moose Lodge, he can park at any lodge in the nation for either free or for very cheap...just something to consider. KOA campgrounds might be another option to consider. They've been through every state & work as tour guides once per year in Alaska, which they've also done in other states, including the Everglades in Florida. They basically get paid to do some traveling.
As far as that couple went...It really had nothing to do with the both of you. I could tell that they had some old, deep, built up anger that probably goes back to the 60's. They probably felt threatened & thought that your friends would start moving in w/ their vans if they didn't nip it in the bud, lol.
He probably had a bad acid trip once from that time his cousin got him stoned 50 years ago...and he's been living in fear ever since. Anyway, best of luck! Eventually I plan to move to the Big Island...I believe its more affordable to live between Hilo & the Puna district than most other parts. Aloha!
They should have spent a little more money and not have bought a corner lot on the major street getting into addition😤😡
Fight this and U should take all our comments to the judge🤔😝😜
Melissa hankoff..or built their "community" way back off the main street & paid for the paving & upkeep on the road themselves (instead of the tax payer), then, maybe, they could pick & choose who is good enough to be on their street!!! Pathetic!!!
Very good idea, Melissa! We will definitely take these comments to the judge -- even those with opposing viewpoints to negate bias. At the end of the day, I feel like this was just an unhappy man who wanted any opportunity to take it out on someone else.
Ha they really should have purchased a house out in the middle of the country, which is like 10miles from where they currently live... that way they could have mitigated this entire situation...
Or...They’re bitter people because they’re so far in debt that they don’t know what happiness is! They’re probably jealous they aren’t having as much fun with their home as U can have with Urs😂😂😂
I don’t think it has anything to do with money. I’ve watched my own father and grandmother turn into these people over the last two years. Old and angry, fueled by hate from the right.
People are so stupid sometimes, he chose to be rude and condescending,instead of taking an opportunity to meet someone new and interesting by making assumptions, truly his loss. It is sad people are that way. I am glad that you two share the good and the bad of bus life, as a future skoolie it helps me know what could happen. Well if you two are ever heading east and are in southeast Texas my driveway is always open. Keep on keeping on, tomorrow is a whole new adventure.
I'm sure this had nothing to do with us really... god only knows what has happened over the course of this mans life to make him so miserable and unhappy. Either way, not our problem. He's choosing a sad approach for the last half of his life... and that's his bad. Thank you for your kind offer! If we are ever in Texas we will keep this in mind!
Have all skoolie owners head to your mom's neighborhood and park near that man's house
Hahah that would be hilarious
I've been in similar situations. It's really sad that people treat other people like this. They make you feel like crap when you're doing nothing wrong. Don't let it get you down.
That old fart needs to be sued. I'm sure a case could be made since he surely lied to police and you got an unjust ticket that you now have to take time out of your day and money out of your pocket to contest. He should be liable for the cost of fuel and the cost of your time. I would estimate that your professional time is worth about $100 an hour. I would take him to small claims court after researching exactly what I could sue him for in order to teach him a lesson.
Yeah we don't want to put anymore energy into it at this point... we're going to let karma take care of him....
Judge Judy would have kicked his behind 😜😜
Suing people is how you punish them in the USA, assuming you actually have a case. In this case, a lawsuit would be a good punishment.
steal threaded, don't try to make this about race when it has nothing to do with race. People like you are why racism still exists.
Would it have been acceptable for an over-the-road truck driver to have parked their bobtail in the same spot you had your bus parked?
My wife and I have lived in Colorado all our lives, in the last 10 years we have seen a large influx of new people a lot of them are from California because it’s so screwed up so they come here and screw it up here,they bring there politics and crappy attitudes
I've been in Colorado all my life as well, so I know what you mean.
Great attitude guys. Sorry that you had to go through this abuse. Unfortunate that this couple took out their frustrations with their lives and other things they can not control on you. Its also a shame that some people assume that because you choose to live in a bus or RV that you are "dope heads" or "hippies". I envy your adventurism and applaud you!
Much like leaving an open bag of chips on the couch and the dog getting into it, you set yourself up for failure. Parking in a "fancy" neighborhood is asking for trouble. Being a home owner and a Skoolie owner I can see both sides. We have people parking cars on our property all the time. It becomes incredibly frustrating. I also understand your frustration. However, the general public looks at Skoolies differently than they do RV's. If you had parked a standard RV there you would have gotten a less judgmental, although not less hostile reaction. People perceive RV's as expensive and therefore "more stable" people own them. Skoolies have a much less "mainstream" reputation and are considered to be a vehicle of the less conventional. That alone can upset people. To be honest, you do present yourself's as "hippie types" which is cool and all, but don't get bent when people that don't know you assume you possess the stereotypical traits that are associated with "hippies". I mean, don't dress like a cowboy and then be offended when people treat you like a cowboy. And the ticket is a tool of the "man" and more for retribution and deterrence. It is designed to irritate you and discourage you from returning. A cop, and we all appreciate their service, has the ability to make your life very complicated and uncomfortable.
Dana Lee , aren't u being a bit racist? just asking !!
Dana Lee , I would not call that fancy while it's still under construction. !!
Which "race" was I being disrespectful to?
The construction was happening to the property next to the community. The house, to which they parked next to would be considered fancy.
sounds racist. !!!
Wow there blowing this way out proportion
Sorry this happened to you but.....if you're there every few months people will notice you. If you mother lives 2.5 blocks away why not park in front of HER house? Why would you be taking your laundry outside....planning to walk to the laundromat? If your there that frequently I can see where they assume you are sleeping in it and you most likely are. Going to the home to continue the conversation v. just moving your rig was very immature IMO. What some people do for ratings is beyond me.
They explained that they can’t park at her parents house because of neighbourhood regulations.
They explained it. You didn’t watch the whole video. This man has been harassing this couple and thank goodness they can contest it in court.
Watch the video ffs! They explain it. Doh.....
wherever you are ! many people in washington and seattle area will happily welcome you in ....