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  • @Adam3343
    @Adam3343 Місяць тому +944

    Pro tip: if you've never seen bots in league play the lowest difficulty bots available. If you're lucky you'll get one other real person on your team. the other 3 accounts? Account leveling-bots. EVERY game. I guarantee it.

    • @hine_dere
      @hine_dere Місяць тому +40

      I tought riot was adding low difficulty bots so you can play faster...

    • @victorhugobarbosapereira4850
      @victorhugobarbosapereira4850 Місяць тому +26

      my old pc was so shit and i need to play easy bots to test how it was for the day and man is just bots there

    • @dracotoy
      @dracotoy Місяць тому +2

      Is this a newer problem? Last time i leveled an account i didnt see any, albiet that was 2 ish years ago

    • @edfjioiiid8483
      @edfjioiiid8483 Місяць тому +14

      Create a new account, go play ARAM. You will get More bots than humans in EVERY game. This is the state of ARAM right now.

    • @dastark_3024
      @dastark_3024 Місяць тому +26

      @@dracotoy literally EVERY GAME. I play Intro Bot Games to check my ping and to do some Battlepass quests which i dont get to do in regular games (like farming minions or jungle monsters since I'm a support main)
      I get 4 ADC bots, who perma push midlane, don't buy items and don't react to enemy bots.
      It has gotten worse, since the new League Bots got released, as they become an actual problem when they get fed and you have no team mates.
      I always have to play a carry champ now and still it feels difficult, since all lanes are pushed in and the enemy has 3 15/0/0 champs, who play as good as a bronze player

  • @pierrelapotre7642
    @pierrelapotre7642 Місяць тому +550

    Want to see bots, play Co-op vs AI

    • @mr.boomguy
      @mr.boomguy Місяць тому +44

      Yeah. If you're unlucky, all of your teammates will be bots xD

    • @noam242
      @noam242 Місяць тому +2

      I even had 1 or 2 in normal games, probably ended up there accidentally.

    • @sanagos9350
      @sanagos9350 Місяць тому +8

      ​@@mr.boomguylucky*
      At least noone spam in chat 😅

    • @AngelOfDeathBG
      @AngelOfDeathBG Місяць тому +2

      I remeber one morning back in the day, I was still sleepy, but decided to get my first win of the day mission. By mistake I choose the hardest co=op vs AI bots (instead of the medium one) and I got 4 bots account on my team, I don't remember which champ I picked, but even fed I didn't manage to win 1v9... 😂😂😂

    • @nicolasdinant9616
      @nicolasdinant9616 Місяць тому

      just start a coop vs IA, i'm pretty sure that if you go in easy you'll be with bots

  • @ItsFist
    @ItsFist Місяць тому +234

    Not related to bots but here's another interesting rabbit-hole:
    Go to the top ranked flex players, and try to find players with 0 losses. It starts showing around Grandmaster.
    99% of their games last 5 minutes.
    My personal theory is that this is done through the lobby-crasher exploit we saw a few months back - if they dont get their friends on the other team, they crash the lobby and go back to queue! Rinse and repeat untill you're matched with your buddies, one of the teams throw the game, GG!

    • @FNCMontragor
      @FNCMontragor Місяць тому +4

      Thats interesting

    • @alexandraprower4766
      @alexandraprower4766 Місяць тому +6

      I dont really understand how it works. It means that the other team must lose all the time-> they drop rank->cant meet the winner team in queue eventually?

    • @BDSL
      @BDSL Місяць тому

      i think they take turns because elo gain is usually more than elo lost per game? idk maybe im wrong@@alexandraprower4766

    • @myritebaw
      @myritebaw Місяць тому +3

      i had this aswell im trying to find it as i type this.
      a few days back on one of my accounts playing aram i came across an account that has been queing up with multiple accounts going 0-30 when playing with these other accounts.
      and as you said all games last around 5mins.
      none of the games where ranked just aram

    • @muhammadilyas8107
      @muhammadilyas8107 Місяць тому

      ​@@alexandraprower4766sometimes it's not whole team sometimes they play only 7-9 people in order to avoid the suspicious because the system is they solo queue at the same time, at the same timing, and even at the same place to get into the same lobby. At least that's what i get from experience, i was found myself in that Win-trading people and as soon as the fountain barrier down, the losing team will go under the turret in no time.
      It's not new for me because apparently in APAC server is not rare for a game to have these problem much of them is mobile games like Mobile legends, AOV, and even Wild rift in the early day.

  • @lenamiaou7528
    @lenamiaou7528 Місяць тому +20

    I'm glad you said this about smurfing in the end, I felt kinda alone thinking smurfing wasn't cool and not healthy for the game, like, many streamers and youtubers do it casually without even questionning themselves anymore about it.. I hope it goes away at some point.

    • @Braxtonkai
      @Braxtonkai Місяць тому +5

      smurfing is a massive net negative for the game and community, but there is a huge market to do so. So yeah a lot of League content creators need called out, not only them but the wanna be successful ones as well.

    • @kineticsyntax
      @kineticsyntax Місяць тому +1

      What is the difference between smurf account and making a new account to play with mates after dodging 3 incredibly toxic teams? (As example)

    • @freshrimp9013
      @freshrimp9013 Місяць тому +1

      ​@@kineticsyntax the difference is you're not doing it for the sake of ego and wanting to 1v9 a game.

  • @Off_Screen
    @Off_Screen Місяць тому +91

    League of legends players: Ughhh our games infested with bots. wtf is taking so long to deal with them riot?
    TF2 players: first time?

    • @ArthurDraco
      @ArthurDraco Місяць тому +2

      Yeah, and TF2s anti-cheat is stinkin garbage, which is why most people play on third party servers.

    • @jacques8823
      @jacques8823 Місяць тому +3

      Bots are part of TF2 at this point. its like a mixture of PvE and PvP thats really unique and fun.

    • @Off_Screen
      @Off_Screen Місяць тому +4

      @@jacques8823 not when those bots have built in chat and vc spam aswell as just straight up aimbot. If riot somehow manages to deal with their botting problem, I hope they send some of their lot our way for a bit to help with ours

    • @zitronenwasser
      @zitronenwasser Місяць тому

      hmm

    • @robert7100
      @robert7100 Місяць тому

      @@jacques8823 idk what game youve been playing but it sure isnt tf2, around 1/6 casual queue games are slightly playable, every other time its just a lobby full or slowly filling with bots because the kick timer is on a 2 minute cooldown and theres over thousands of bots being hosted at a time and to top it off the bots have aimbot unlike league where the bots just stay at spawn or the bare minimum to not get kicked

  • @LRMRULES
    @LRMRULES Місяць тому +83

    Before twisted treeline was removed, every casual game was filled with bots, you could always tell because they wouldn't buy or move until minions spawned, they just used that mode to farm out games quicker for XP to get them to level 30 to sell off as a fresh account.

    • @1doobiedoo
      @1doobiedoo Місяць тому +1

      Dominion got infested with bots during its last days. 😔

    • @LRMRULES
      @LRMRULES Місяць тому +1

      @@emperorborgpalpatine same, RIP

  • @NightridingDoom
    @NightridingDoom Місяць тому +26

    Btw, hand leveld iron IV accounts can go as high as 500 bucks precisely because they are less likely to get banned

    • @HorizenMC
      @HorizenMC Місяць тому +2

      Noobs: *it’s my time to shine*

  • @thegoat9219
    @thegoat9219 Місяць тому +17

    When you are in the Iron rank dungeon like me bots are there in one out of 3 games

  • @mikewinterborn
    @mikewinterborn Місяць тому +55

    -They removed 3v3 because "nobody played"
    -People stopped played because was full of bots
    -Bots that RITO reqeued themselves to 3v3... (said by them)
    Soooo, as I have been saying for years now:
    BRING BACK TWISTED TREELINE!

    • @xmiunax4385
      @xmiunax4385 Місяць тому +4

      There's a lot of game modes they need to bring back but they never will 😢

    • @Master00Ra
      @Master00Ra Місяць тому +1

      I never liked 3v3, but that's just me. Bring back Twisted Treeline!

    • @shanematthews1985
      @shanematthews1985 Місяць тому

      Why would they bring back a mode that had less than 1% of the playerbase playing?

    • @aro480_
      @aro480_ Місяць тому

      ​@@shanematthews1985 Tbh, as long as you can get reasonable Q times, there is no reason to remove a game mode, other than it's not profitable for the company. I mean, look at Smite. 4 main game modes (5v5, Aram, Arena and 3v3) and a bunch of smaller ones (4v4, 1v1 and rotating "for fun") with a smaller player base and you still get to a game within a minute. The longest I have waited this season was 4 mins in the middle of the night.
      Tl;dr: Rito could easily still keep 3v3 AND Arena permanent with how big the player base is, but it costs, so they probably won't.

    • @mikewinterborn
      @mikewinterborn Місяць тому +4

      ​@@shanematthews1985 Because 1% of league's active community is still a lot of people (1.17M people), 3v3 was nice way of playing, the map was fun, the altars interesting, the meta not so tight, and the main problem with it was Rito's use as bot dumpster that made people run away...
      Did I answered your question?

  • @biscotti3972
    @biscotti3972 Місяць тому +61

    I had a duo supp and jg that were literally bots, spamming abilities, standing still on camps with an active ability turned on attacking nothing, that shit was my demotion game, never tilted so hard

    • @Midwestemoisme
      @Midwestemoisme Місяць тому

      what rank lol

    • @pwl2992
      @pwl2992 Місяць тому +3

      Thats why fuck ranked. Embrace fun in normals and arams

    • @ShaynasPlants
      @ShaynasPlants Місяць тому

      I just had this happen too. 😢

    • @biscotti3972
      @biscotti3972 Місяць тому +3

      @@Midwestemoisme it was my emerald game demoting to plat 1

    • @ivansciacca7810
      @ivansciacca7810 Місяць тому

      @@biscotti3972 If you demoted from emerald your MMR was really really bad, and you never deserved it in the first place. Its not 1 game that makes you demote but multiple losses.

  • @knowone3610
    @knowone3610 Місяць тому +69

    I can't find anyone talking about scripters especially in the League subreddit (mods remove your post when you call out scripters), but PH server is especially infested with scripters. You find them everywhere, even in ARAM & URF. They are so shameless that they cheat in for-fun gamemodes.

    • @tomtee6252
      @tomtee6252 Місяць тому

      I'd only seen 2-3 scripters in all my time playing league except this season and last, and I've lost count at this point.

    • @blushingralseiuwu2222
      @blushingralseiuwu2222 Місяць тому +2

      Asian server is always a cesspool of cheater loser.

    • @maddibooty
      @maddibooty Місяць тому

      I got to agree ngl the Philippines server has the biggest amount of cheaters the moment we got into riot servers and their egos are wayyy too massive for no reason.

    • @FoxiestLia
      @FoxiestLia Місяць тому

      I’ve seen legitimate scripting about 10 times +-5 in total across 10 years of playing league. Admittedly I’ve been quite lucky in my games, and usually play with friends so that eliminates usually half the game from the potential scripters when I’m full pre-made. Fighting them though… is a pain… you literally have to throw so many things at once that the script doesn’t know what to prioritise and walks into one of them, hopefully a cc ability.

    • @luckytanuki5449
      @luckytanuki5449 12 днів тому

      Been playing for 7 years. Haven't seen any scripters. Granted I could have just not noticed, but I never felt like skills were "locking onto me" so I'm gonna go with I've literally never seen any. Plus scripters aren't as big a deal in a Moba as say an fps. Get rid of vanguard rito, it's worthless.

  • @add-iv
    @add-iv Місяць тому +35

    Switching servers costs 20€, new account costs way less..
    Leveling a fresh account takes too long.
    this is why this happens.

    • @tudorminciunescu9614
      @tudorminciunescu9614 Місяць тому +6

      But then who cares about getting banned if they can get lv 30 in one week. Also you don't want new players with only one week of playing in your ranked games :)

    • @Stolanis
      @Stolanis Місяць тому

      @@tudorminciunescu9614 But on the other hand, them having played for more than a week isn't any guarantee of a basic level of competence. Some people in Iron have played the game a LOOONG time: if you don't have learning ability and self-awareness, playing the game for longer just means you reinforce your mistakes.
      It doesn't help that the League tutorial is so bare-bones it hurts. In modern League I would say that stuff like wave management really should be considered entry-level knowledge.

  • @jamietigges2154
    @jamietigges2154 Місяць тому +103

    The 4:1 KDA on Yuumi bots tells you everything you need to know about the champ.

    • @alexandralamond347
      @alexandralamond347 Місяць тому +9

      This comment tells you everything about a bronze players opinion. these bots mainly level against very low AI in Coop - if u cant achive 492174ß24 - 0 KDA there then im extremely sorry for you ...

    • @Dyna1One
      @Dyna1One Місяць тому +1

      @@alexandralamond347 Although you're both kind of right, noone really cares about yuumi, but the stats are actually from iron ranked games. Yuumi currently has 4.21KDA in iron ranked this season due to how easy it is to get assists (source: metasrc, couldn't find another site with KDA showing) this is not taking any of the botgames in account.

  • @mendyc158
    @mendyc158 Місяць тому +22

    12:30 also bc Yuumi depends on the loaner she is with
    You can get “unlucky” and get someone that actually does something and you win.. with Annie you can feed your enemy too much and just make them win

  • @TheDragonshunter
    @TheDragonshunter Місяць тому +52

    If botters find a ways to bypass Vanguard I want that shit out of my pc...

    • @Valorshine
      @Valorshine Місяць тому +15

      It is alteady bypassed

    • @alessandroseverino8222
      @alessandroseverino8222 Місяць тому +16

      a team of cheater managed to beat Mr Toast in an official Valorant tournament, so yea. If you can sneak up an aim assist in valo you can surely sneak up a bot "that is harder to detect" (how is hard to detect a 0 / 12 into multiple low lvl vs ai games?)

    • @Gamer-nc8qp
      @Gamer-nc8qp Місяць тому +7

      there are already hardware or ai cheats lol, its just spyware at this point

    • @tatzecom
      @tatzecom Місяць тому

      Vanguard and other Kernel Level Anti-Cheat is hillariously easy to bypass.
      Unity Research made a banger video about making their own private aimbot for Valorant with a Raspberry Pi and a microcontroller.
      is it more expensive? Sure. But in return its also completely undetectable, just like DMA.

    • @aro480_
      @aro480_ Місяць тому +5

      It probably already happened and the only thing that Vanguard does is screw Custom skins and Linux users and give Rito the ability to block your entire PC from ever booting one of their games again. Can't see where this goes poorly for anyone.

  • @Suntensatsu21
    @Suntensatsu21 Місяць тому +42

    I help high school students write their college application essays. I had to explain to one of my students who wanted to go to business school why he should not write about how he used to work for one of the companies that sold League accounts. Best not to advertise that you break terms of service.

    • @jimmyelkordy3752
      @jimmyelkordy3752 Місяць тому +11

      Depends what he’s applying for. Most companies aren’t going to give a shit about a video game. Similarly the FBI will hire people who hack high profile accounts because they want that knowledge

    • @Suntensatsu21
      @Suntensatsu21 Місяць тому

      @@jimmyelkordy3752 He was going to be a business major.

    • @lussor1
      @lussor1 Місяць тому

      ​meanwhile in my country you go to jail for hacking the scammers/hackers@@jimmyelkordy3752

    • @freshrimp9013
      @freshrimp9013 Місяць тому

      ​@@jimmyelkordy3752it's a bit different because its not about the game, it's about breaking a TOS.

  • @therealgodking2797
    @therealgodking2797 Місяць тому +56

    Riot always stating only 1% of players are banned 💀

    • @sanane5902
      @sanane5902 Місяць тому +20

      When you think how big lol is that 1% could be a ton of accounts

    • @helaoyutu
      @helaoyutu Місяць тому +1

      well, league is the most played game in the planet

    • @helaoyutu
      @helaoyutu Місяць тому

      and also, theres a lot of ppl that has multiple accounts

    • @forcefulstorm6187
      @forcefulstorm6187 Місяць тому +1

      ​@@helaoyutu bet Garena Freefire or some other mobile game has more players

    • @MauMauNyaNya
      @MauMauNyaNya Місяць тому

      ​@@helaoyutu we aren't talking about fortnite

  • @smoking2164
    @smoking2164 Місяць тому +9

    Even UA-cam once shown me a ad for website where you can buy a account

  • @Blessed_Souls
    @Blessed_Souls Місяць тому +12

    dude WE needed someone to make this kind of video

  • @butnobodycame7022
    @butnobodycame7022 Місяць тому +101

    Look man, if I am to trust anybody in this entire damn world, it is Thor from Pirate Software, if he dont like that, I dont like that, neither should you fellas, this aint no reason to quit League, this is a reason to follow the chillest and most reasonable dude in existance for your own safety

    • @EtherealRune
      @EtherealRune Місяць тому +10

      The reality is however, that you most likely already played other games that used Kernel-level anti-cheat software - It's surprising how many games are actually supported by that.
      Don't get me wrong, I'd like to agree with Pirate as well, but I also know that "experts" on this topic have a big tendency to always view situations from the worst possible outcome. But I will quit League as well. Feels very weird with Tencent in the background.

    • @TheCruelWarden
      @TheCruelWarden Місяць тому

      if you play any competitive online game you probably already have a diff kind of the same system in your pc so you are already late..
      also.. just using google you are at more risk compared to any kernel anti cheat

    • @LetsSmiley
      @LetsSmiley Місяць тому +17

      If anything, Thor would tell you to not trust him and do your own research. He is knowledgable and I like him, but he is also a person with an opinion. A well-educated one, but still an opinion.

    • @crammer666
      @crammer666 Місяць тому

      @@EtherealRuneissue is that kernel (like fe. EAC) are not running constantly; I would call them sem-kernel since they are not constant and you actually have way to manage it. Those are crap too and I try to avoid them because, well, R0 access is no-no for me (tho I understand why it is not that bad case for other). But Vanguard is another thing alltogether. It run constantly. You cannot log its activity (or at least I did not find any way to do so). It is basically 'trust me bro' system that goes from boot. And that is nah, especially since my trust in riot is... well, let's say - I like spaghetti but maybe not in code ;)
      TBF - for now I did not hear anything about anoyone breaking vanduard (while EAC probably had such situations at least few times) but I still do not trust rito and I refuse to give godmode to my machines to them.

    • @Jedda678
      @Jedda678 Місяць тому +5

      He also just has a tiny bit of an ego about his own game being impossible to pirate. You can easily pirate his game if you spoof the achievements. There are games that turn off achievements if you have mods. Well you can spoof them by having a mod re-enable them. It applies to his game too.
      But yes I like Thor and find his is a reasonable dude but 60 second shorts are not a fully good enough justification to feel like he's the most intelligible on a subject despite his highly qualified background.

  • @17Master
    @17Master Місяць тому +14

    "The accounts that get there (I4) legitimately... stay there legitimately."
    Me remembering placing in I4 and climbing my way out to S2: "Heh."

  • @MattHatter360
    @MattHatter360 Місяць тому +1

    If Rito wanted bots and smurfs gone, they would just need to ask for a phone number like Dota does

  • @Doggers28
    @Doggers28 Місяць тому +4

    I had 4 Bots in different games last month, deranking from Emerald down (Gold 3 in my games atm)! All last 20 games in the history were lost on the profile and it was also behaving like a bot. Random Ulti on Camps, random smites on minions. No Chat, Objectives, Teamfights, nothing. It was just roaming the whole game.

  • @onuxtigris3392
    @onuxtigris3392 Місяць тому +10

    "Twist of Fate"
    HE SAID THE THING

  • @wowJhil
    @wowJhil Місяць тому +4

    I think you are really missing the point about the bot problems if you think they are just all around iron. When you start a new account it's very likely that you are placed around silver at least. In general people are being placed in gold or even plat, there was a lot of complaining about this from both sides, people having new players that far up and new players feeling bad about losing so many games at once because of wrong ranking. As a silver player I saw more and more bots in the game, from not experiencing it at all as far as I know just some years ago. This Yummi sitting on adc and basically not doing anything at all, that I saw. And in same game they had some top laner running it down. So two bots in one game. This problem has for sure increased, I noticed it well because I used to play A LOT. And actually this is ONE of the main reasons that I got tired of and actually stopped playing League. Whenever I am feeling tempted to play League thinking about the good sides, I am reminded that I will likely not have those fun games anymore there because of bots and because of the humans as well.

  • @rootyful
    @rootyful Місяць тому +1

    I've definitely seen bots in the game - a whole team of them in fact. Matched in Quickplay against a team, all with the same icon, all with similar two syllable names, played BADLY and surrendered unanimously at 10:30. My friend who was with me said they had a similar experience the day before.

  • @BB-bw8tk
    @BB-bw8tk Місяць тому +2

    the bots that level to 30 queue up a lot of aram games. i was leveling a side account and had an aram with 8 bots. 8. the only real person was an asol on the other team who would just e and gather all the bots together and delete them. was very silly.

  • @seruxserux
    @seruxserux Місяць тому +4

    Hello, just so you know, the accounts are not only uploaded by bots, but there are also people who pay to raise the account to level 30 by hand and those accounts uploaded by hand are worth more, for the simple fact that they have less chance of being banned, I know this for the simple fact that I do it and the pay is good overall.

    • @MattHatter360
      @MattHatter360 Місяць тому +1

      Do you still spam aram/bot games or is there a different way to do it now?

  • @adamcurry5033
    @adamcurry5033 Місяць тому +1

    "Well im not telling you" lmfaooo GOOD MAN!

  • @MisuneDate
    @MisuneDate Місяць тому +26

    Funny thing. I made a ticket for valorant asking directly if I should or not report smurfs... the answer I got?
    No, let them have their fun, get rekt. (Exagerated ofc, but still the answer)

    • @HeartLancer
      @HeartLancer Місяць тому +7

      Just click their head bro kekw

    • @lubue5795
      @lubue5795 Місяць тому +4

      Well, yeah.
      Riot's terms and services never stated that smurfing was not allowed or anything like that so it's also not something they want reports on. And if people still report smurfs, it will just clog up the already heavily overburned review system they have, meaning more accounts that actually violate the terms of service will slip through.

    • @drjamaymay405
      @drjamaymay405 Місяць тому +6

      With current matchmaking systems, smurfs typically get placed into their tru elo relatively fast.
      Yes they will still ruin games but by the time they would get banned they are already playing in fair matches.

    • @MisuneDate
      @MisuneDate Місяць тому

      The reason at the time that I sent that, was the ratio that I was placed against a smurf, it was was ridiculous to say the least, overall was something about 1/3 matches had a lvl 1 account headshoting everyone in every peek. It felt like these guys simply created an account every 3 matches, everytime lvl 1 or 2 accounts.

    • @Adam-pv8je
      @Adam-pv8je Місяць тому +1

      Smurfing isn't bannable -- why would they want reports on something that isn't against the game's rules?

  • @Mr_Jhin
    @Mr_Jhin Місяць тому +11

    eune is not forcing vanguard , union protects us from that and other cyber regulations prevent riot from doing that

    • @CapriCorNsro
      @CapriCorNsro Місяць тому +1

      Where can I find this information? I'm looking to see if EUW would also be as lucky then

    • @sonicwave779
      @sonicwave779 Місяць тому +2

      What about Valorant? Both EU servers mandate that you install vanguard.

    • @MattHatter360
      @MattHatter360 Місяць тому

      ​@@CapriCorNsro EUW will have Vanguard

  • @victoriapschen
    @victoriapschen Місяць тому +5

    These bots got pretty advanced. The ones I saw were programmed to respond to accusations from teammates of being bots, with lines in all chat like “my team is calling me a bot I’m just new :(“

  • @DanVallelion
    @DanVallelion Місяць тому +1

    Oh my God, the 'crazy' conspiracy dude in Neace's video was onto something

  • @grumpysketch5607
    @grumpysketch5607 Місяць тому

    I hadn’t seen a bot in game for at least a few years and then the other day I got TWO on my team and ONE on the enemy team. In the SAME game! I have no idea what happened that day.

  • @deleijon3415
    @deleijon3415 Місяць тому

    I've had a few ranked games destroyed by bots, but after getting out of silver I don't see any bots now

  • @DerLolo666
    @DerLolo666 Місяць тому +8

    i dont think removing smurfing is that simple, every single big league streamer has like 10 smurf accounts

  • @jelleluyten5017
    @jelleluyten5017 Місяць тому +2

    I had a bot Sona last week
    Would just follow the closest allied champ and every 10 seconds use a random ability
    Would ult in fountain and stick to my ass with such consistency that at least she blocked skill shots

  • @WhimsicalWisp44
    @WhimsicalWisp44 Місяць тому

    'Im losing faith in hummanity here" IM Dying from laughing to much

  • @DetroisHD
    @DetroisHD Місяць тому

    I used to work nightshifts and to end the day I often hopped into arams at 2-3 am.
    Human players were a rarity with 3-4 per lobby

  • @thep3nta675
    @thep3nta675 Місяць тому

    The only time I have ever thought of smurfing is when I have a buddy of mine who is new to the game and is getting DEMOLISHED in my lobbies and soon enough they aren’t having any fun at all.

  • @Dyna1One
    @Dyna1One Місяць тому +2

    Not gonna lie, I have bought accounts in the past, I've played different roles on a different server that some of my friends play on because they weren't 10$ like Nec mentioned, they cost me 1.50$ each. I don't think you should, and it'll definitely get more expensive as Vanguard will be able to detect bots but it's ridiculous that Riot let the botting problem go on for so long that 4 accounts with over 100h of playtime each can be bought for the same price as a venti Starbucks coffee. And yeah, like the reviews I got to choose the skin and what not and was instantly able to play (they got banned after a few weeks, but it was that cheap.)
    I definitely hope the botting market gets nuked, and I'll never see a lvl 30-35 account with botgames in it's match history, in plat/emerald/diamond+ games ever again.

  • @Jackesfox
    @Jackesfox Місяць тому

    As someone who enjoyed playing bots to introduce new friends to league, there was never a single game i played in easy bot since 2018 that had no bots in

  • @leedyson6746
    @leedyson6746 Місяць тому +2

    Just have a lv30 boost sold in the store, job done.

    • @nyandra290
      @nyandra290 Місяць тому

      It could work, but depending on how much it costs people will still buy botted accounts if they're cheaper.

    • @leedyson6746
      @leedyson6746 Місяць тому

      @@nyandra290 just make them cheap enough so it's not worth the effort. 5 dollars or something. I'd much rather get an official LV30 account from riot that won't get banned then a cheaper eBay account at that price.

    • @sonicwave779
      @sonicwave779 Місяць тому

      Ah yes, the WoW method.

  • @gbplaylive
    @gbplaylive Місяць тому

    I've seen bots a few times when I was playing. A long time ago, some of the events had rewards for playing 30 games,When I was already a little fed up, and wanted to complete the mission quickly, I played matches against bots, I took champions that took objectives quickly, to finish the match quickly. When I did this, several times there were players who were bots on my team, who just walked from the base to the middle lane, hit some minions, went back to the tower, advanced a little, and died to the enemy bot. They never got past the first tower, and they repeated this script until the game ended.

  • @aydellik1
    @aydellik1 Місяць тому +4

    Hello! I have played league for 4 years now, and was hardtack silver for the first 3(I am emerald now.) I use to see Yuumi, Soraka, and Annie bots pretty common, especially late at night/early morning. The weirdest things about them is how they ended up on my team 99% of the time, and never the enemy's team. Getting a game with these bots got so common, I could tell there was a bot in my game in CHAMP SELECT.
    It would start by support typically hover the 3 champs mentioned before, and then in the ban phase the bot would ban a teammate's champ if they have it hovered. If you ban the bot's champ it would move the the next champ, usually 1st Yuumi, 2nd Soraka, and 3rd Annie. I never tried banning all 3, but id assume it would just pick a random character or another random support champ.
    During the game if the bot is yuumi, the bot would hop on ADC doing nothing but casting a Q at the minimum time before it got registered for AFK. If the bot isn't playing Yuumi, then the bot will just follow the ADC around and recall when the ADC recalls. Not really casting abilities, or casting very little, constantly hitting waves whenever. If the ADC dies, or if the ADC gets far from the bot, the bot will then follow an ally who is closest and act the same way. I have never seen a bot get lvl 3 support item, and rarely get lvl 2 support item.
    It felt like there was nothing you could do, and your odds of winning are higher if you just didn't have a support in the first place in moments like these.
    For the record, I have seen 3 confirmed scripters in my games. Their champs were Renekton, Jax, and Kayn.

    • @UserName-vt8ly
      @UserName-vt8ly Місяць тому +2

      i hate this so much. it gives yuumi mains a bad name. (like, i hate the bots not you talking about them!!)

  • @angryflamingos3314
    @angryflamingos3314 Місяць тому

    The amount of bots in my ARAM games is actually unbelievable

  • @alphadoomz5017
    @alphadoomz5017 Місяць тому

    i remember seeing a lot of bots in league 1-2 years ago with the afk soraka yuumi and taric

  • @ferrissmith3517
    @ferrissmith3517 Місяць тому +1

    If Vanguard was more transparent about what they do and let us see instead of “Just trust me bro”, people wouldn’t have as big an issue. But Tencent recently got exposed to collecting personal data. The very thing they promised Vanguard wasn’t doing.

    • @alexstewart9592
      @alexstewart9592 Місяць тому

      If they let us see the innards of Vanguard, they also let the FPS cheatmakers see those innards, and if those cheatmakers get their hands on that info, it is more likley than not that they manage to make Valorant cheats that Vanguard can't detect within a couple of months, making Vanguard useless.
      This does suck for transparency, but since stealing data requires getting it off your computer and doing THAT produces network traffic - and network traffic is monitored by your antivirus program, which is specifically looking for specifically and exactly people trying to sneak stolen data out hidden in network traffic generated by real, legitimate programs (since that's how computer viruses steal personal info, they compromise a pre-existing program that already uses the internet and piggyback the stolen data onto that program's network traffic), we do at least have fairly high certainty that Vanguard isn't stealing data (and your local antivirus isn't the only thing monitoring network data, your router, general internet infrastructure and (if they're responsible) your ISP are all also monitoring all network traffic passing through them for all forms of suspicious activity, including data theft).

  • @T-adams
    @T-adams Місяць тому

    as an actual iron player like myself, i have noticed that there was less bots. i had no clue that riot vanguard was added to league, but this change makes me happy if the bots are being cut down

  • @coffeebreak7978
    @coffeebreak7978 Місяць тому +1

    if smurfing was banned there would be less of a market for bots

  • @TheMalkavianPrince
    @TheMalkavianPrince Місяць тому

    as somone who has played with their fair share of yuumi bots, your team tends to spend most of their time avoiding it as much as possible, and trying to soft int if it catches them to get it killed as much as possible

    • @MattHatter360
      @MattHatter360 Місяць тому

      It's risky tho, especially if this happens in ranked

  • @user-rq6yl6tu8w
    @user-rq6yl6tu8w Місяць тому +1

    In my last 15 games I've had bots on the enemy team 3 times in low diamond, getting lucky I guess, felt bad for the enemies though, they are just constantly sitting under turret, and moving in 8 pattern. Funny enough they are still not banned and have like an 80 game loss streak, while still not being banned.

  • @FatalBlow100
    @FatalBlow100 Місяць тому +1

    Like a year or two ago I was watching a couple unranked low level friends duo in ranked they did 3 or 4 matches and all of them had a bot Yuumi support in their team except in the last match where I told them to ban Yuumi and it went Soraka and stuck to the adc like a RuneScape character that pressed to follow another player.

  • @adamhume3497
    @adamhume3497 Місяць тому

    I’m in high Iron and an ADC main and in a ranked game I ran into a teemo bot account. No leash, and would just follow me, auto attack minions that got close to him and backed when he got below half health, bought scanner at the beginning of the match and used it in lane.

  • @luckyels3034
    @luckyels3034 Місяць тому

    Ive even seen youtube ads of account sellers, it's wild

  • @zenronjt8303
    @zenronjt8303 Місяць тому

    Vanguard still going to be a problem to most people because we just don't know what the hell is going to do while it is activated

  • @limkorvey1929
    @limkorvey1929 Місяць тому

    I cant count how many smurf that i have been playing against for months.

  • @Jeff55369
    @Jeff55369 Місяць тому

    I ran across bots when leveled up a second account. They're fairly common in the coop modes

  • @jordannainoca230
    @jordannainoca230 Місяць тому

    The crazy thing is, this is exactly what wildrift uses for ranked matches between iron IV - silver I (most matches). If you are in between these ranks you are playing entire enemy team bots till you hit like gold IV. Then they throw you against plat to emerald players who wreck the shit out of you coz you’ve been playing against bots this entire time.

  • @OSena34
    @OSena34 Місяць тому

    Bot problems? **laughs in hearthstone player**

  • @A_L90
    @A_L90 27 днів тому

    You can only make an account with social security # and once you're banned, you're gone.

  • @wesleyh7945
    @wesleyh7945 Місяць тому +1

    Unless they've gone the extra mile to hide it, vanguard isn't on my machine in EUW atm.

  • @mohammades2756
    @mohammades2756 Місяць тому

    If you try to lvl a new account today you would see countless bots until lvl 30. After that they suddenly vanish like they were never there.

  • @XIII-TheBlackCat
    @XIII-TheBlackCat Місяць тому +4

    In 90% of the games I've played in ranked as an ADC main I've had a hacker using an afk Yuumi/Sona/Soraka/Taric AI program that just follows players in 2020, 2021 and 2022. I have at LEAST 3000 support ticket reports sent to Riot for those years. Yuumi was the most common one. Forget ELO hell, I was in Yuumi hell.

  • @sharkgirl8456
    @sharkgirl8456 Місяць тому

    I remember a couple years ago I had plenty of aram games with bots. Like sometimes I had a full team of bots or faced a single player or two while the other players were bots. Doesn’t happen anymore

  • @webignar
    @webignar Місяць тому

    I saw a lot of bots (10 or more) last season before Riot "did something" about it, saw a few bots after that but I don't think I've seen any this season. Was Bronze and Iron a bit last season, this season started Bronze and climbed to Silver.

  • @bluestormpony
    @bluestormpony Місяць тому +9

    ive actually had a fair number of bots in my league games, usually they are most obvious when they move in a very unnatural way while not really seeming to be aware of the game around them possibly going to the wrong lane

  • @lolka_bam
    @lolka_bam Місяць тому

    oh no, now i understand this iron 2 yuumi in my gold game with heal and flash in jungle

  • @safehavendot
    @safehavendot Місяць тому

    Bots are extremly common in Co-op vs AI and low elo ARAM

  • @cyberrb25
    @cyberrb25 Місяць тому

    I wonder if a way to juggle the thing with bots could be to restrict the server change for a year from the account's creation -(maybe with some lifting if the account reaches Silver rank in SoloQ to mean that the user is actually playing and not lose-botting).- Edit: WHOOPS
    That way, it would lock a bunch of accounts from the users and gather way more accounts, exposing more patterns for them to discover which accounts are botting.

  • @KittenBooBoo
    @KittenBooBoo Місяць тому

    In the elder scrolls online my dad likes to screw with the resource gathering bots.

  • @YbotPoweredGaming
    @YbotPoweredGaming Місяць тому +2

    I my opinion there are a lot of shenanigans in iron league. I spent a lot of time in iron before I just quit out frustration.
    The Smurfs, the bots and the vastly different quality of teammates makes learning and climbing out of iron very difficult.
    Also the players in this elo are some of the saltiest human beings on the planet. Now I am a grown ass man who will admit I’m not that great at the game.
    But these guys in Iron 2, they think they are fucking pros and that are just being held back because they get bad teammates. Which is funny because if they were actually that good they could 1 v 9 all their games in Iron.

    • @Stolanis
      @Stolanis Місяць тому

      I believe this is the point at which all armchair Internet experts (including myself) will dogpile on with 'well obvsly it's the Dunning-Kruger effect lmao', and while that's probably true I'd say it's also a matter of ego. It takes a lot of courage to face yourself and say 'actually, I'm NOT as good as I thought I was', but you can't become better at the game until you do.

  • @echohoolia
    @echohoolia Місяць тому

    Soraka with runaan and warwick with moonstone 👹

  • @Rerpesentz
    @Rerpesentz Місяць тому +1

    Yummi 38% win rate in iron because she attached to the other bot in game and not the player 1v5

  • @radix2830
    @radix2830 Місяць тому +9

    Where are the bots in this comment section?

  • @wspann0
    @wspann0 Місяць тому

    I feel like I played with a bot in ARAM a few weeks ago. They were playing Karthus, but in a way that no human would play. They rarely ever used their W and randomly used R when everyone on the enemy team would have enough health to survive it. I understand that people can be bad with champions, however I refuse to believe that was a real person.

  • @BK91
    @BK91 Місяць тому

    a few yrs ago they were so prevalent on aram , i remember one time the enemy team had 4 bots an mine 2 that was a sight .....

  • @BeefStuMacher
    @BeefStuMacher 20 днів тому

    I never knew this was a problem until last week because a teammate of mine mentioned it. There's at least one bot / smurf account (or whatever you want to call them) a match. I play ARAM if that matters, but regardless, this is so frustrating.

  • @ozimonn
    @ozimonn Місяць тому

    leveling up a fresh acc you almost only see bots in aram

  • @nathanielpostma2566
    @nathanielpostma2566 Місяць тому

    Man that iron 4 statement hurts am i really that bad that i cant climb out of this rank

  • @yngvildrthevoracious
    @yngvildrthevoracious Місяць тому

    I've had a few bots in ARAM. Usually account levelling bots for people who want to try the game and feel instant power with an account power levelled to a certain level and rank. Until their account gets banned for botting. I indeed saw more bots in MMOs like when I played Aion (the OG back in 2009/2010 until I ran out of money for the sub and switched to LoL 😅) and when I was... Working at a video game company that has two MMOs!! I got to learn how they detect them and had the privilege to hit them with a ban hammer very hard. 😂

  • @tobicatlala
    @tobicatlala Місяць тому

    Had a friend who constantly get banned so he always brought account he also liked to play iron 5 to diamond 1. Never under stood why.

    • @101shaymin
      @101shaymin Місяць тому

      You'd be surprised how often a lot of players enjoy the experience of progressing in rift games compared to their elo once finished

  • @aelinashryver4865
    @aelinashryver4865 Місяць тому +1

    love your content!!

  • @graveyardoperations7407
    @graveyardoperations7407 Місяць тому +2

    I worked so, so hard back in the day to get platinum. I wasn't good but I worked on getting better at the game and improving and getting to a spot I was happy with.
    $40.

    • @watcher9027
      @watcher9027 Місяць тому

      You got to Platinum for your own personal satisfaction, yeah? Would buying an account for $40 have given you that same satisfaction? If not, then it doesn't matter that there are $40 Platinum accounts. Your only reaction should be confusion that anyone would pay to buy a Platinum account.

  • @casteri
    @casteri Місяць тому

    I'll readily admit when I played League I was god awful at it and mostly played ranked for fun (not in the sense that I intentionally trolled, but I find competitive environments fun and would do my best to improve every game with new knowledge acquired, but had no ideas of climbing as fast as possible) and I stopped when Yuumi was dropped into the game, because the game became infested with bots that it wasn't an uncommon occurrence when one bot would have to pick something else (typically Sona or Soraka).

  • @Lucky-yr2ju
    @Lucky-yr2ju Місяць тому

    "DOTA was righ tall along"
    There is a saying that if you are right just a day before everyone else realises it, you are being called a moron for a whole 24 hours.

  • @Thelastolympian11
    @Thelastolympian11 Місяць тому

    I have not seen bots in league in some time. However... I remember a time, and certainly some of you can recall this period... where you would log into in ARAM game, and the Entire team was full of nothing but bots. Everybody on the enemy team, and everybody on your team were all bots. You were the only real player. They would all stand in one spot, follow the exact same actions and commands, and the game would be a total mess, or stalemate even, in a twist of irony.

  • @txeemo6946
    @txeemo6946 Місяць тому

    ive been playing this game for over 10 years now and currently in iron2. I was in gold took a 3 year break came back and boom puts me in iron and now i see bots every 3rd game

  • @johanstenfelt1206
    @johanstenfelt1206 Місяць тому +1

    Huh, how very interesting.
    I wonder what will be the case from here?

  • @Rncko
    @Rncko Місяць тому

    2:40 Former FPX DoinB be like : Not me....👀

  • @Notllamalord
    @Notllamalord Місяць тому +1

    Kernel level anti cheats dont even work, games with ones like easy anti-cheat and the like don't even have less cheaters. They're also extremely vulnerable, getting backdoored and hacked. It's too much power for a company to hold and it doesn't even show results

  • @tobias97erdt
    @tobias97erdt Місяць тому

    Thanks for letting us know about what is going on here Necrit and also probs for your very based takes on the whole topic :)

  • @endoftheline3206
    @endoftheline3206 Місяць тому

    Heart is gold stuck at gold is proud

  • @CalaTec
    @CalaTec Місяць тому

    I've seen a lot of bots in ARAM after creating a new account a few years ago.

  • @gabrielrhodes6882
    @gabrielrhodes6882 Місяць тому +1

    I now see why my mom is a zyra and leona main

    • @kingsteel2972
      @kingsteel2972 Місяць тому

      I'm sorry for your mom, you and your family that your mom plays League

  • @ilpr3dator646
    @ilpr3dator646 Місяць тому

    I have 1 smurf account, hand leveled by myself, i used to learn champions, im a diamond level control mage player, but whenever i have to play anything else, my level drops down significantly, so I just another account that is on the level that I have on those other champs to try things out, smurfs are necessary, at least for me, for learning purposes, and them just getting rid of smurfing would mean that I would only be allowed to play mages 24/7, making it a DREADFUL experience on all levels.

  • @kaidokp
    @kaidokp Місяць тому

    As a bronze player, I can confirm that you DO get bots every few games. But wait, there's more. Sometimes the bot can communicate too so sometimes people won't bat an eye. The bot would play well depending on which player it decides to follow. If a player it follows is somewhat decent or is above the rest, the bot would somewhat adapt to their playstyle. A lot of times though, bots int early on or just flat out AFK/dc. Not fun.

  • @majinvegeta9807
    @majinvegeta9807 Місяць тому

    being a former iron 4 (yes I sucked that much) player climbing all the way out of iron and bronze was very popular with bot accounts. I would say maybe every 3rd or 4th match there would be a bot on the enemy or ally team. Even with the bots being banned there are still people throwing in low elo to get the iron 4 accounts sadly.

  • @Fetska1
    @Fetska1 Місяць тому

    12:40 katarina and yasuo in iron is like gg sign

  • @user-ul4ue1yk9w
    @user-ul4ue1yk9w Місяць тому

    I've seen that crap. Dude used Yummi bot to lower account to Iron IV and then a few weeks later it was sold. And I don't know why they created that champion. Didn't they knew that it would be easy to automate her movement.