Using a WEEBILL S WITH YOUR IPHONE
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- Опубліковано 27 лип 2024
- I recently bought a Webbill S Hybrid gimbal for my iphone 8 and in this video I am going to show you what it is like using a hybrid gimbal with a phone instead of a DSLR camera!
I with talk you through the difficulty of balancing such a light weight iphone camera in a heavy duty hybrid gimbal as well as my first impression of going from a smartphone gimbal such as the osmo mobile 3 to the Weebill S. Enjoy!
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CHAPTERS
00:00 INTRO
00:43 Specs
1:30 Price range
2:00 Ways to balance
2:43 6 DIFFERENT MODES
5:23 Cheating crane and jib shots
6:17 First shots using Weebill s with iphone
7:16 Weight / balancing issues
7:31 Battery differences to smartphone gimbals
8:20 Positives and challenges - Фільми й анімація
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Thank you for your practical explanation! Trying to weigh between the Crane M3 or the Weebil S.
Thanks so much! You're welcome. That's a tough choice. I'd definitely check out videos where the creators use a big rig set up on the M3 so you know exactly how it would compare in a really important way.
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Thanks for this video, I have been considering using a dslr gimbal for my iPhone 14 so I can use my anamorphic lens.
No problem. I used this set up for a short film recently and it worked like a dream!
The Weebill has been on the top of my list for a while now. Just comparing it to the Ronin it feels a bit more compact I guess, or maybe a bit more welcoming to a smartphone setup. Curious how it'll look and work with the cage. Hopefully it'll balance out a bit better. Defo do a video on how you set it up, Rob!
Same. It's really good! The reason I didn't use the Ronin is it seems like you need to use their app to get all the functions out of it whereas you can change everything (i think atleast) within the weebill s gimbal led screen itself which is simpler. The balancing is a lot harder than a smartphone gimbal to be honest. There's a video from a Moment guy who used a smallrig cage with it and I saw Cassius did that with his latest short too. Once I have the setup down 100% I'll make a video on it. Thanks Cindy!
So there are no time- or hyperlapse modes like on my osmo mobile 2? I would need to carry both then, which is not feasible.
I use a 12 Pro Max SmallRig Cage along with my Moondog Labs anamorphic lens to add weight while using my WeeBill S.
I have heard of this combo from a few people now so that seems to be a very popular set up. Agreed on the weight thing. You definitely have to add something there.
Hi! Thanks for doing this video and confirming that you ca use the weebill S for smartphones! You use some kind of phone mount on the gimbal, whai is the name of that?
Thanks for sharing your gear 🙏🏾, what type of ND filter do you have on the camera?
You're welcome! I use the Moondog Labs ND filters although I believe polar pro and moment also make great NDs.
Hello, Can you connect the gimbal to the phone via cable? As is done with mirrorless cameras. thanks
I know this video is a bit old now, but I think if you were to just simply Velcro a battery pack to rather the back of your phone or somewhere on the webill S That should counteract and give you enough weight to do what you need to do
I upgraded from a Osmo Mobile 3 to a Moza Air Cross 2 and never looked back. With a larger gimbal I can hook up a cage , heavy external lenses with filters , microphones and even my DOF adapter with follow focus.
That's awesome! Agreed. A regular smartphone gimbal just can't handle any kind of full setup. Not without burning out the gears. It's quite a learning curve going to hybrid gimbals but they are brilliant! A DOF adapter with follow focus sounds great!
So from a beginner point of view what would you recommend for a novice, thanks for sharing.
I think if you are just starting out then a smartphone gimbal would be better than this and a lot cheaper too. I am looking to use lens, filters and mic setups so I chose this but I still use my osmo mobile 3 for broll here and there.
This is just the info I needed, thanks mate. I too have an Osmo 3 and it’s OK, but a bit wobbly sometimes. Does the app allow you to do auto track and pan etc? Also, do you need to get a separate adaptor to use it with a p[hone?
Nice. Thanks! I had to upgrade for the same reasons. If you use a second iphone (not sure if it works with Android) that second phone can do tilting and panning via the zhiyun app but I don't think it could do tracking BUT might be worth dropping Zhiyun an email. I used a pretty basic phone clamp which I then attach to the release plate so you would need a separate phone clamp to use this with your phone.
@@SmartphoneFilmmaker Those clamps are cheap enough. Thanks Mate. The other good thing is if you did upgrade to a mirror less camera, the gimbal wont go to waste. I’m thinking about getting the gimbal with a dolly slider. You could do a lot with that combo.
@@StarWarsJay Definitely and good point about saving money by future proofing.
Got this balanced with a oneplus 7 pro first attempt. I tried the g6 Max and it was a rattling pile of JUNK. The weebil s took some tinkering but only had to watch one balancing video from the g6 and apply that to this Weebil. Omg it's so smooth with a heavier smart phone. More complex but ultra smooth and quiet. I got the one with the extra handle and carry case for 20 bucks.
Nice! You had a lot more fortune balancing with a phone than me. I had to get the beastgrip pro rig to get it balance!
That makes sense! Is it working well for you? Have you updated the firmware? When I updated from version 1 to 2.3 mine rattles like crazy now and doesn't hold anymore. What gives??
Great video thank you. I am sorry but I couldn't catch the make/model of the anamorphic lens? Which lens are you using and what focal length?
Thanks! It's the Moondog Labs Anamorphic lens with what I believe is a 37mm focal length.
Hi there, I purchased the Beadtgrip kit to use with my iPhone, but what kind of clip did you use on the weebill S for the the iPhone alone without the beast grip?
Just a standard clip that came with my NEEWER tripod but any screw on phone mount should work.
What is the iPhone hold connection ? Did you leave a link for it ?
I actually got it included with the tripod. If you search for a 'phone clamp' you'll quickly see some cheap and great options online for sure.
Hi Rob, thanks for the video. would like to know if you need to buy the phone adapter separately or it already comes with the Weebill.
Regards
Hi Noel. You will need to buy a phone adapter separately but you can get them really cheap. Thanks for watching!
@@SmartphoneFilmmaker where????
@@kylebazzar7994 Amazon or ebay would be cheapest of the likes of Moment, Beastgrip or Dreamgrip.
@@SmartphoneFilmmaker I guess I’m just confused over how you attached it and can you go vertical?
@@kylebazzar7994 You just screw the phone clip/clamp into the release plate that comes with the Weebill S. It should be the same with any other hybrid gimbal.
Did you use the auto calibration function of the weebill to adjust the motor power to the weight of the smartphone?
Hey. Yes I do. The phone on it's own and even with the lens and filter attached is too light so the auto balance doesn't work how it would do with say a regular DSLR camera. I tend to hold the phone in place while it balances (the ideal) but it works.
Thanks for the vid. How does the Weebil S compare to the Crane 2 for iPhone filmmaking (with, say, added case + anamorphic lens, filter etc), do you know?
Appreciate it! I haven't used the Crane 2 but I have heard from a few people that it can be tricky to balance with lens and filters attached compared to the Weebill S but it's definitely possible. The Weebill S does offer a few very interesting modes like pov and underslung for smooth shot at unusual angles.
@@SmartphoneFilmmaker roger roger - thanks for the reply
Thank you so much for making this video. Is it possible to shoot vertically with the Weebil ? I was hoping I could use it to record social media content as well.
Hi. You're very welcome. Yes you definitely can but you might need the same beastgrip pro rig as me to add enough weight for decent balancing on the gimbal.
@@SmartphoneFilmmaker further, Beastgrip sells a vertical adapter for the pro rig. I'm waiting for it to be back in stock!
Question for the creator, have you figured out how to use the record button on the gimbal? I would like to externally control it without having to reach and touch my screen to record. I'm having difficulty researching this info and finding a solution.
Can you configure weebil’s record button to start rec on iphone? I can do this on dji om2. It allows me to use iphone camera app without touching the screen to rec
Unfortunately this cannot be done with any hybrid gimbal at the moment. Would love to see that feature happen though. Hybrid gimbals are so strong that tapping the phone to record doesn't shake the camera at all unless you are to aggressive with it so I haven't found it to be a problem.
Hello,
I have an iPhone 13 pro in the Smallrig case, microphone and various lenses on the Weebill S. In Votexmode or Unterslangmode there are strong vibrations. I have reduced the motor strength in the menu. This did not completely eliminate the vibrations.
I have mounted a 15 cm long arc machine. The iPhone is mounted in front and a 400 gram metal block is attached behind it. This block is made of metal connectors for beams from the hardware store. No matter how I use the Weebill S now, there are no more vibrations.
Have you also found a solution?
Hi. Yes I had the same problem to begin with. I now use the Beastgrip Pro Rig (which you can see in this video ua-cam.com/video/CPTzKAZNt-I/v-deo.html ) which has given me the perfect weight distribution.
Your issue might be how the weight is spreading across the gimbal or maybe add a different type of counter weight that could be attached to the smallrig.
Also if you haven't already watch a couple of UA-cam videos on balancing your gimbal. The tutorial with DSLR cameras still relate almost the same to using the gimbal with a smartphone.
Hi I've just bought this gimbal, please can you tell me which phone attachment mount I need thank you
The attachment is from my old K&K tripod but I'd advise checking Amazon, Ebay or the likes of Moment, Smallrig, Beastgrip or Dreamgrip.
Hi Bro,, Can we connect phone to this gimbal for object tracking (not using Image transmission module)
Hey. I would double check on their website but I believe you would need to download the zhiyun app onto a second iphone and with that second iphone you can then use object tracking.
nice video! What phone mount are you using? is it compatible with iPhone 11 pro max?
Thanks! It was the phone mount that came with a K&F tripod. Now I use the Beastgrip Pro Rig which adds enough weight that i can now use every mode this gimbal is capable of.
Do you have control of the phone with the Weebill S controls through the Filmic Pro app?
Unfortunately not. It's fine as it's easy to use filmic pro separately and even an automatic focus pull as it holds the phone so steady. I would love it if they made that all possible though.
I also have a Weebil s but i want to use it for smartphone can you please tell me about attachment for phone
I'd google phone clamps for gimbals and see which you like best. I use a Neewer phone clamp.
Can the phone be used in portrait mode as well in this same gimbal ?
Yes. You might not be able to use vortex mode but everything else would work.
Hi; just bought one of these for my Galaxy Note 10 plus. I'd tried a Smooth 5, but felt it was a bit weak once loaded up with an additional lens, in the slightest breeze. I managed to pick up a new one for £180 which doesn't seem too bad? Did you manage to sort out the vortex mode/? I'd be interested to find out? Thank you
Hey. Nice, £180 is pretty damn cheap actually so good job. That's about £40 less than I paid. Yes I did but only once I got a beastgrip pro rig to add a considerable weight to the set up. After that it runs smooth like butter. The beast cages work too.
@@SmartphoneFilmmaker great. Thanks. I was considering a small rig balance plate and weights but beastgrip probably a better investment 🙂
@@retrodudefpv Yeah it works perfectly for me. Gives you a bunch of ways to attach accessories too.
Hi there! I actually plan on buying this for my samsung s22 ultra with a smallrig cage, wondering if its a good investment long term for an android phone and a dslr? Also wondering if the app is mostly comoatible with android phones since ive heard that android has a lot of problems with that
Hey. Yes it would be a very good purchase for those cameras. If the small rig cage has a similar weight to the Beast Grip pro rig that I use, you should be good to go. I presume that the app wouldn't be compatible with an Android phone but it's worth dropping them an email.
Would you share the setting used on😢 weeble s?
Hey. I use it pretty much as it came out of the box to be honest.
Can you recommend anything to attach iPhone pro max 13 to gymball weebell s please as I looking for some stuff
If you google iphone clamp attachment you should get a range of options. Unlanzi and smallrig are companies worth looking into.
@@SmartphoneFilmmaker thank you
Do you know if we can use this gimbal with filmic Pro?
Unfortunately not.
Do you ever have the phone mounted vertically? I'm having a nightmare with vibration when trying to use the gimbal with a vertical smartphone!
I actually haven't tried it with the phone in a vertical position. That might be an awkward weight distribution for the gimbal. If you have something heavier like a beastgrip pro rig or cage then that might help.
How did you setup smartphone on dslr gimbal?
The actual balancing in pretty much the same but using a phone clamp you just attach that (with the phone too) to the release plate on the gimbal like you would with a DSLR.
Is there any way to balance a smartphone on this without using a cage?
I can balance it without a cage but not for Underslung mode (handle above camera along the ground). I do know some people have done it but I found it impossible to balance for all modes with the phone only.
Where can I get the iPhone mounts for the gimbal?
If you search for 'phone clamps' on amazon there will be a few. Or check out Moment's or I believe Ulanzi's websites too.
@@SmartphoneFilmmaker Thanks buddy with the regular clamp was it pretty usable without adding the small rig beast?
@@DownSouth_Adventures Without the weight of the Beastgrip Pro Rig the gimbal would get a little jittery in certain modes like vortex. Just using it like a regular gimbal it seemed to work.
Hi. Thanks for the video. I have just got my Weebill S but it keeps vibrating with iPhone 14 pro on it even if I calibrated and set the motor power to low. How to set up not to vibrate? Thanks :)
Hey. It might not be enough weight which is why I always use my beastgrip rig too.
@@SmartphoneFilmmaker thanks man. I will try with beastgrip pro!
No worries. That fixed my issues almost instantly. @@Bergclub
What’s the phone holder attachment you are using, where is it from and how does it attach to the weeble s ?
It actually came with a K&F tripod and it just screws onto the release plate of the Weebill S. If you google Phone Clip for gimbals you should find a whole bunch of different makes.
@@SmartphoneFilmmaker thanks so much and for the prompt reply! I’ve found one from my local camera shop online!
@@mahutabros You're welcome! Have fun using these accessories together.
What phone mount is that?
It's from a neewer tripod but smallrig, beastgrip and others make really good phone clamps.
Great review! Informative. LOL with your great sense of humor! Oh yes Congrats on getting a flat with your GF. Good Luck! Now where I am at. I have been researching gimbals for about a week. I am what we call anal retentive when I buy something so complex to use and the cost over $300 (with the extras I want.) Yes, spreadsheet and all is the way, I satisfy my OCD during the process. It took my two months off and on to decide on my mirrorless Sony A 6400. That was over $1000, But now my time has come to an end and I need to get a gimbal. Or maybe I don't? Originally I looked at smaller gimbals to use with all 3 video capture devices, I currently have. GoPro 9, New iPhone 13 pro max and the Sony. Once I started looking at gimbals, I found myself focused on the larger pay load gimbals cause the smaller ones would be maxed out with the Sony. Although some reviewers say the smaller ones will operate a mirrorless. Then today, I remembered I started this entire search so I can use all 3. I use my GoPro a lot for skiing and fishing vids. So Boom I search Weebill S with iPhone, you where at the top of the list. Thanks for sharing so honestly and cleverly with this review. Cheers RJUnleashed
Hey! Haha You're very welcome and thanks. It's going really well so far. : )
I am exactly the same when it comes to researching expensive (and even not expensive) filmmaking accessories I watch as many videos as I can to make sure I am not wasting what little money I have. The Weebill S would definitely cover all bases for you. If you're using it for fishing you can of course angle any of your camera to exactly the angle you want without worrying about weight. Thanks again!
How much the gimbal cost?
I got it on Ebay for £225. Brand New it costs about £319.
All good but the most important thing missing is which phone holder you are using or an example. Here in the UK all searches return phone holders for the side to use with a camera, not as a main device. This whole video is about using the gimbal with a phone so it doesn’t make any sense that you won’t say or give an example (I’ve read the other comments too and it seems you simply don’t want to say?). Thanks
Hey Alex. You're right I should have mentioned in this video. I have answered this question below to a comment (perhaps not specifically enough) but essentially it's a K&F phone clamp that came with an old K&F tripod of mine. Search 'phone clamp' and you'll quickly find a few options (just tried myself). I have an updated video where I went much more in depth but I appreciate your feedback.
@@SmartphoneFilmmaker thank you, I seem to have missed that one (my apologies). All the best
@@SmartphoneFilmmaker I’ve also understood quite late that any phone mount with a thread would work since it can attach to the bottom plate. This is where the big confusion came from, as I’ve previously used a mobile gimbal :) thanks again
@@alexd.6968 No worries. It can get a bit confusing when upgrading to a hybrid gimbal when it comes to the adapter ect.
@@SmartphoneFilmmaker indeed :) one more question please, am I crazy to want the Ronin SC over the Crane M2 since they are both pretty much the same price now? Crazy because I only have an iPhone 12 mini and a bunch of moment lenses and filters… but I’ve seen others balance their phone without any issues and also I think the Ronin SC is so much superior in quality. I was thinking that it would also allow me later to get a lightweight camera if I want to and use the same gimbal. What do you think? All the best and I appreciate your replies.
Balancing an iPhone with this thing gives me stroke & a seizure. Its crazy at how hard it is..
Yeah that’s why I use the Beastgrip Pro Rig with it too. The extra weight makes the gimbal think a full dslr camera is attached so it’s smooth.
Which attachment did you use for the iPhone? Does it connect to anything?
It was the phone mount that came with a K&F tripod. Now I use the Beastgrip Pro Rig which adds enough weight that i can now use every mode this gimbal is capable of. These connect to the release plate that comes with the gimbal.