One of the features of WinUAE I hope to see come over to Amiberry one day is the ability to set RTG refresh rates independent of Amiga native refresh rates. This way we can enjoy a responsive workbench desktop @60Hz or higher while also enjoying tear free and butter smooth Amiga graphics @50Hz. An added benefit would be able to have independent refresh rates between the host system and Amiberry. This might be a big ask because there may be limitation in SDL I’m not aware of that make this impossible to implement at the moment. For now WinUAE on Windows is still king because what I describe is possible there, but Amiberry is closing the gap quickly.
That is a very nice ft in WinUAE indeed. If one is a Windows user that is a very nice one to have buildt into the emulator! I actually think it is a FT that is there because of what a program can do in Windows vs Linux. I have solved this with a 100Hz monitor. 50hz looks awesome on it, and on desktop use I know there should be some theoretical problems due to 100/2 is not 60 :) But it is not something I am able to notice as a problem. even when I am trying to look for them. I guess those kind of problems is something one see best in demos and games. Earlier I was running everything in 50hz when emulating.
One of my ideas is to put a Framework laptop mainboard inside an Amiga case. This might be good software to run on that. On the other hand...Debian... Now i am wondering if I can make a Nix package that installs all this stuff.
I think this will work great for that. inside the A1200 case you have the rpi in now? It is Amiberry so you will get to use your floppydrive going forward. If you ever goes this route I hope you make a video as well. loved that 1200 build of yours!
@@proteque I'm about to order new keycaps for that system and they now have beige 500 cases. I'm thinking of swapping it to a 500 case because then the keyboard will fit properly (it's a 500 keyboard). What do you think? Or should I stick with the 1200 case?
@@RobFisherUK I think the 1200-case is most beautiful. But I think it is because the AGA days was when I did most things on the Amiga so it is closest to my heart. I did try to use a 500 case for such things as well, but it felt wrong somehow. I ended up buying a a1200.net case in white and then spraying it in the original A1200 colour (or at least closest I could find).
@@RobFisherUK Nice. Hope you show off the journey when it arrives. A tip: if any of the keys don't quite fit (pops out again). Put a bit of that thin white rubber "band" thing that is used on pipes between. I think it is called thread tape. That works perfectly without needing to use glue and make it permanent..
Why don’t you show some love for FS-UAE? It’s been active for years in both Linux and macOS and is almost “one on one” equal in characteristics with WinUAE, yet lacking some UI configuration options (which are right there if you use the command line or text config files)
I did show fs-uae a lot of love in my videos though. Example: Fs-uae was what I used in the video about integrating amiga software in linux. Sadly fs-uae dev seems to have died. So I think it is important to support what is alive.
@@proteque oh, yes. My bad, I watched that video before but didn't take it in account before making my comment. You are right. Also, I took the pace of FS-UAE as "slow", but now checking the development blog, it seems like the developers left it on its own. I stand corrected. Thanks a lot for your quick response!
@@lagunagfx FS-UAE deserves to shine though. so I am glad you mentioned it. I think it is a bit sad he left it. But that is life I guess. I am just happy he took the huge work on making it in the first place. He was also very good at supporting it. Just wanted to add. fs-uae is fantastic. One of the things I really liked about it was the easy button-binding. I use it in my Arcade cabinet because of this. Also espesially for blistering fast emulation FS-UAE has served us great. But lately amiberry has JIT on the PC as well (it had on ARM for a long time). So I am very glad Amiberry has got a good momentum so we are not left with a dying emulator that at one point will be hard to compile on newer systems..
Of Amiberry? if so: Yes. But amikit comes as a installation. Not as disk files like lot's of other distros do. And the installation of it on PC used to be in windows or in wine. You could off course fetch the files and copy them over to a Linux computer and open them in amiberry manually. So whats new is that this installation now can be done directly on Linux.
It looks like an interesting product. What, if anything, does it offer over it's competitors? I hate the fact that, even today, many things on Linux tend to be clunky affairs, often requiring use of the terminal. Say what you will about Windows, but it rarely requires typing anything into a command line interface. I grew up with 8 bit machines, then Amiga, then MSDOS and Windows 3.x and so on. Typing things in to make it work was a necessity. I knew MSDOS pretty well, but thankfully Windows moved on. 20 years later, the Linux world still hasn't caught up. 😂
I guess it all depends on where you stand. For me the lack of a good shell and terminals is one of the reasons I don't use Windows. Regarding what is offers. Well it offers a legal way (licenses) to install a "modern" Amigasetup where you can drop in your whdload games etc. Most of the other distros comes loaded with pirated software. This is another direction. You can off course set up this pretty much like this yourself and I often to that myself. My main reasons for liking the setup in use is opus magellan II/Dopus 5. I prefer that over Workbench/ScalOS/etc
Thanks for an intresting video 🍻
Glad you liked it!
Very nice video!
Thank you Michal :)
Thankx, very cool vidéo!!
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One of the features of WinUAE I hope to see come over to Amiberry one day is the ability to set RTG refresh rates independent of Amiga native refresh rates. This way we can enjoy a responsive workbench desktop @60Hz or higher while also enjoying tear free and butter smooth Amiga graphics @50Hz. An added benefit would be able to have independent refresh rates between the host system and Amiberry. This might be a big ask because there may be limitation in SDL I’m not aware of that make this impossible to implement at the moment.
For now WinUAE on Windows is still king because what I describe is possible there, but Amiberry is closing the gap quickly.
That is a very nice ft in WinUAE indeed. If one is a Windows user that is a very nice one to have buildt into the emulator! I actually think it is a FT that is there because of what a program can do in Windows vs Linux. I have solved this with a 100Hz monitor. 50hz looks awesome on it, and on desktop use I know there should be some theoretical problems due to 100/2 is not 60 :) But it is not something I am able to notice as a problem. even when I am trying to look for them. I guess those kind of problems is something one see best in demos and games.
Earlier I was running everything in 50hz when emulating.
One of my ideas is to put a Framework laptop mainboard inside an Amiga case. This might be good software to run on that.
On the other hand...Debian... Now i am wondering if I can make a Nix package that installs all this stuff.
I think this will work great for that. inside the A1200 case you have the rpi in now? It is Amiberry so you will get to use your floppydrive going forward. If you ever goes this route I hope you make a video as well. loved that 1200 build of yours!
@@proteque I'm about to order new keycaps for that system and they now have beige 500 cases. I'm thinking of swapping it to a 500 case because then the keyboard will fit properly (it's a 500 keyboard). What do you think? Or should I stick with the 1200 case?
@@RobFisherUK I think the 1200-case is most beautiful. But I think it is because the AGA days was when I did most things on the Amiga so it is closest to my heart. I did try to use a 500 case for such things as well, but it felt wrong somehow. I ended up buying a a1200.net case in white and then spraying it in the original A1200 colour (or at least closest I could find).
@@proteque I might stick with the 1200 for now. The added weight pushes the delivery cost into silly territory, anyway 😅
@@RobFisherUK Nice. Hope you show off the journey when it arrives. A tip: if any of the keys don't quite fit (pops out again). Put a bit of that thin white rubber "band" thing that is used on pipes between. I think it is called thread tape. That works perfectly without needing to use glue and make it permanent..
Why don’t you show some love for FS-UAE? It’s been active for years in both Linux and macOS and is almost “one on one” equal in characteristics with WinUAE, yet lacking some UI configuration options (which are right there if you use the command line or text config files)
I did show fs-uae a lot of love in my videos though. Example: Fs-uae was what I used in the video about integrating amiga software in linux. Sadly fs-uae dev seems to have died. So I think it is important to support what is alive.
@@proteque oh, yes. My bad, I watched that video before but didn't take it in account before making my comment. You are right.
Also, I took the pace of FS-UAE as "slow", but now checking the development blog, it seems like the developers left it on its own.
I stand corrected. Thanks a lot for your quick response!
@@lagunagfx FS-UAE deserves to shine though. so I am glad you mentioned it. I think it is a bit sad he left it. But that is life I guess. I am just happy he took the huge work on making it in the first place. He was also very good at supporting it.
Just wanted to add. fs-uae is fantastic. One of the things I really liked about it was the easy button-binding. I use it in my Arcade cabinet because of this. Also espesially for blistering fast emulation FS-UAE has served us great. But lately amiberry has JIT on the PC as well (it had on ARM for a long time). So I am very glad Amiberry has got a good momentum so we are not left with a dying emulator that at one point will be hard to compile on newer systems..
Can't Amikit just run on the Linux port?
Of Amiberry? if so: Yes. But amikit comes as a installation. Not as disk files like lot's of other distros do. And the installation of it on PC used to be in windows or in wine. You could off course fetch the files and copy them over to a Linux computer and open them in amiberry manually. So whats new is that this installation now can be done directly on Linux.
What version of amikit is this?
This is Amikit 12. What is new is that they have made Amikit 12 for Linux running amiberry. The old version used wine and winuae.
It looks like an interesting product. What, if anything, does it offer over it's competitors? I hate the fact that, even today, many things on Linux tend to be clunky affairs, often requiring use of the terminal. Say what you will about Windows, but it rarely requires typing anything into a command line interface. I grew up with 8 bit machines, then Amiga, then MSDOS and Windows 3.x and so on. Typing things in to make it work was a necessity. I knew MSDOS pretty well, but thankfully Windows moved on. 20 years later, the Linux world still hasn't caught up. 😂
I guess it all depends on where you stand. For me the lack of a good shell and terminals is one of the reasons I don't use Windows.
Regarding what is offers. Well it offers a legal way (licenses) to install a "modern" Amigasetup where you can drop in your whdload games etc. Most of the other distros comes loaded with pirated software. This is another direction. You can off course set up this pretty much like this yourself and I often to that myself. My main reasons for liking the setup in use is opus magellan II/Dopus 5. I prefer that over Workbench/ScalOS/etc