1914 Collection of Coins - 100+ Year Old Coins with 100+ Year Old Packaging
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- Опубліковано 29 вер 2022
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Man, that was so much fun! The packaging, the writing, the coins and your narrative all equally kept me engaged for the whole video. Thank you for sharing this coin time capsule with us Ben!
The rapid wear reminds me of how we used coins when I was a kid (I'm 70). Not many of them spent years and years in jars or drawers. Coins were real money and they were used a lot and wore down fast. I used to go through bank rolls in the mid-60s, and anything more than 5 years old showed significant wear. War nickels averaged VG or so, and they'd only been circulating for a couple of decades. And almost any cent more than 20 years old was Fine at best. Now I often find 50 year old cents in AU or better.
Outstanding truly fascinating, this is something that still holds true today! W quarters have been out for less than 4 years for 2019 and less than 3 for 2020 and you will rarely find one that isn’t busted!
Don't forget the 09s if you find them
Holy cow! Just the age factor of such an intact collection is fascinating to consider.
Fascinating look at coins removed from circulation more than 100 years ago. I have always heard that silver coins were the workhorses of commerce during this time. Looks like that was the case. Really wore down quickly. Thanks for sharing this unique collection.
I've never seen a collection that old. The level of circulation on what amounts to new coins was surprising. I have been educated. Thank you!
This video was ridiculously satisfying going through with you Ben. I love seeing the history of coin collecting and how much different it was back in the day per se. Great stuff bud!
The reason why SO many Morgans are in MS is because the only thing they saw was the inside of a bag.The American Numismatic Society began in 1858,the dawn of coin collecting in the US.During that time,up to when these coins were stashed away, most people didn't have alot of money, especially to save coins.Those people worked in factories,etc,and made pretty much nothing,with families to take care of.Imagine what those coins have seen,being used to buy goods,being passed back and forth in little ma and pa shops.Indeed,they are history in your hands,no matter the condition
I went to Ecuador last month. They use the American dollar as their currency and they HEAVILY use the American presidential dollar coins. It’s a crazy thing seeing them in Good, fine, and very fine grades something that you never see here in the states
That's amazing. I can't even imagine what a presidential dollar looks like in Good condition! 🙂
Coins with a pedigree are really amazing. That box is gold. Love it. I have a large cent with pedigree and small envelope. The story is worth a million bucks to me
What a find and also the old holders. Incredible to see and you showing. Thanks
One of the perks of the job Ben , be so exciting to go through a time capsule like that !!! Thanks for what you do !! PEACE man 🙂🌞✝️
I can almost guarantee that the writing was not done with a quill, and probably not with a dip pen with a steel or gold nib, but rather a fountain pen.
Back then, half dollars were a lot of money and were well used.
The half dollar didn't disappear from everyday circulation until the days of the Kennedy half. People hoarded the one-year-only 90% silver '64 as well as the 40% halves minted from 1965-1970. By the time the clad halves were introduced in 1971, the half had vanished from the public consciousness. The Ike dollar, introduced the same year, suffered from its large size and was also unpopular.
Love this.
Unlike today, those coins were workhorses and circulated for decades. Today, and I'm guilty, coins that are XF-Unc are tossed into a change bowl or basket and will stay there for years.
Great and informative video. You run into some of the problems of this collection still with coins from the 1960's thru early 80's. I bought because of the gorgeous design a $2 Bahamas sterling silver coin produced for the Bahamas by the Franklin Mint. Excellent quality of strike and design but the holder which these coins were stored often allowed for some black spotting - tarnish or possibly the holder affected it. I was tempted to dip it but I decided to simply use mild soap and distilled water to clean it, a touch of acetone on a tissue to ensure it is dried and put it into a non PVC coin capsule.
I also noted on my 2019 W cents some toning and oxidation occurred -- I discovered the coin capsule I had it in had a crack. I switched all my W's from 2019 and 2020 into Air Tites after seeing that.
We are lucky though that the materials we have to store coins are quite superior to those of decades ago. Even the coin envelopes you can get are acid free - using that with a flip for those coins it is hard to find a capsule for it seems to offer excellent protection.
Man that coin dealer must have loved this customer. Almost a $7.50 premium for a year old coin. Especially considering what $7.50 was worth in 1916. Also I guess lowball grade sets were always a thing. He was trying for that PO 01 70 years before PCGS
Pay high premiums...just to have your relatives cash in your estate in a lump sale since they care nothing about coins -- just to make room for more junk/nonsense in a closet. The circle of life. Quite humbling to see that nothing has changed in 100yrs.
Really cool to find such an old collection.
I'm quite sure that that isn't cellophane but rather onion skin paper. Cellophane wasn't made in the US industrially until 1924.
the packaging is amazing. I love the history. thank you for sharing
I had to buy the 1913 Buffalo, it's your fault. And I wanted a coin as close to 1914. Thanks alot my friend.
We all loved this. Ben, it really felt like sitting in on exciting day at work. Some of those old buffalos were very nice, and love the collection as a whole. Yes, it's a bit pedestrian, but it reflects the love of coins-past has always been there. I gotta look up the hardness of silver+copper, and how it compares to modern clads. I know coins travelled a lot more in the old days...maybe it really is just all the passing back and forth. Thanks for what you do.
An 1874 half-dollar purchased in 1914 is the equivalent of buying a 1982 Kennedy today.
Math. It's what's for figgurin'... 🤣
1914, to bad the collector didn't stash away a roll of BU Lincoln Denver cents from that year.
That 1904 Morgan was an S mint. Really nice coin , with decent value. Enjoyed how this collector collected. “Y’all think I’m in Congress”…😂
Old wheat pennies and buffalo nickels have a nasty odor to them. I spent an afternoon going through my pals cans of old coins. His grandfather ran arcades that raked in Millions!
It's a real education. After I washed up good it was no problem.
Ben: I loved watching this! It was just like a treasure hunt. Thanks for posting this. Cheers.
I HATE THESE FAKE "LET'S TALK" B.S. MESSAGES THAT POP UP in the Reply section trying to get me to call a phone number. What pure garbage. Don't fall for it, anyone!
lol sorry Ben 1980 was 40 years ago not the 60's
one take! LOL. I do misspeak. Thanks!
This is an amazing time capsule, thanks for sharing. Didn't know the silver coins wore down so quick. What I've seen at auctions, etc makes sense now.
I just purchased one of the 1913 Buffalo Unc coins from your website, hopefully I'm getting the one that starts at 15:19 in the video, I mean you did say there were duplicates of that date in the collection, anyhow excitedly awaiting for it to arrive next week, thanks
This in my opinion is the true gem of coin collecting. Far more interesting than a coin that spent its entire life locked away in some fashion. I hope you don't slab any of these. They're far more valuable as is to me. Hit the bad ones with acetone or rubbing alcohol and call it a day.
Ben, something is wrong...1st envelope...the black ink is BALL POINT..not around in 1914. The lower stamped ink is purple, would have faded to black.
@@667hodge the ballpoint ink had iron in it. It oxidizes and turns ted
@@667hodge purple ink turns black...look it up
Nah, your 100% correct. Either he isnt as smart as he thinks, or someone seen him coming from a mile away! There were already so many red flags... why buy a very circulated 1915 in 1914 when you could easily pull a decent example from pocket change?
Awesome video! This is halfway to my dream of finding a Clapp Collection-esque type collection from the turn of the century in those old flips but they’re all gems and beautifully toned.
I bet this person paid face value for a lot of these coins and that’s why they weren’t price coded.. I mean why would anyone charge more than a nickel for a nickel in 1915?
What a fun old timey collection
Conservation in my opinion is a 10 cent word for cleaning. Enjoyed the video, would have loved to look through that collection. You have to think how much 10 cents was worth in 1914, even a nickel had alot of purchase power, unlike today
I purchased 2 Barber half dollars, a 1905 and a 1908 in VG ten years ago along with a British penny from 1916. After being in my pocket for 10 years every day they are totally slick disc’s.
4:03 "This is not the large 'O' you're looking for." -- Obi-Wan Kenobi
Great video! Interesting collection. Just wondering: If the collection was purchased and collected in 1914 and later years, wouldn't the collector be able to pick out coins from circulation especially those contemporary to him? If he was able to get a silver dollar, how about 10 brand-new 1914 or 1915 dimes? Or 20 Buffalo nickles? Also, consider the novelty of new coin designs such as the Buffalos and Mercuries. Were there any Standing Liberty Quarters in the collection? Imagine if he had put away a few 1916 SLQs! Back in the 60s and 70s, collectors were still able to pick from circulation, many key or semi-key coins even from WW1 and WW2. BTW, those 3 digit numbers that were labeled "Purchased For..." make no sense and seem too high for the denominations of coins contained in the envelopes. Nice to see some semi-key coins such as the 1893 and 1904s Morgans. Slabbing might be good for the first few coins that looked pretty worn and might qualify as Poor1! Be well! Ed
Is it possible the packaging has been faked? It seems extremely unlikely to me that a collector would put away 10 year old coins with that much wear. Surely there would be easily obtainable specimens in far better condition. Can you imaging putting a 2012 state quarter with as much wear as those barbers in a 2x2?
I as well agree. Some funny buisness afoot....
Still cool to see these old examples
Hope you keep those old flips! Great collection
What an awesome look at an old collection - awesome video!
Fun fun fun! Thanks Ben
Cool old collection. Love the videos thanks
Great presentation! Many thanks, most interesting.
I deal with circulating coins every day and don't see coins as worn as these relative to their age, and it strikes me (ha ha - intended) that probably the biggest reason for this is simply that people at that time paid with cash for almost everything, unlike today with debit and credit cards, and other electronic means for transferring funds. They did have checks, but you wouldn't write a check to buy a loaf of bread, for example.
Good show.
Awesome, what a cool collection!
It would have been interesting to know what the 1914 buyer paid for those coins.
nice collection! i like the 1916-s dimes. the 1915-s nickel is low mintage, 1,505,000 is $ 100 unc and the 1915-s dime is only 960,000 mintage at $32.50 unc. those unc prices were the prices in my 1965 redbook. would have to see the present day worth. i don't have any current redbook figures. they must be worth a mint now!
Hi, Ben. This video shows that you must be careful with the product you use for storage. I liked some of the Buffalos and dimes. Thanks. *TYU*
The date stamped at the holder appers to be real. In 1924 there were already a lot of dateless SLQ's in circulation so the mint had to change the design in 1925.
Very cool telling coin
Great video, thanks Ben!!
Enjoyed this, thank you
Great video to watch!
Cool coins time to get the acetone out!
Beautiful coins my friend! Thank you so much for sharing! Excellent video! Subscribed!
The 1915-S with a full horn a real pretty old coin like that, low mintage as well
The 1873 half bought in 1914 would be like someone buying a 1981 half in 2022!
a 1873 in 1914? in 1960 I could readily buy 1920ish halves from circulation in VG+, the coins in this presentation are in poor or ratty condition. there used to be a fish bowl on the front counter where those culls were sold for just a bit over face. all it is, is junk silver.
Those envelopes add so much more history to the coins, it gives them a sense of place and time.
The envelopes and dates are fake. Someone bought a bunch of old, worn coins and put them envelopes. Fake
@@paulbegansky5650 it is sus that instead of a purchase location, shop name or name of who it was purchased from you have seemingly a wide array of random numbers.. if it came with a list to decode those names that would make them very cool.. real or fake it clearly wasn't done too recently.. I would like to think the dates are original, but regardless a very cool story and set of old 🪙's.
@@CertifiedPre33 what you say is true, what I am saying is the ink at the top is jet black and if you understand old pens, that ink is far newer than 1914...which would have iron in it and therefore be red due to oxidation. As forbthe lower purple stamp who have faded and two colors. Someone took an old bos and old envelopes inserted some coins that were worn, damaged and tried to pass off as valuable. Buyer beware.
@@paulbegansky5650 Interesting, I can see how the envelopes would add a little value but a heavily circulated coin is still only going to get bottom tier pricing even with a nice envelope.
@@matubula it adds the spice to the coin...gives it flare. Still the story doesn't float
Forget to mention. Please keep with the original flip. I didn't up look at the price of what I bought. Just the cool factor is worth a lot, too me at least. Please put up more for sale. Never seen anything like that ...ever
I found the other day in change a 1987-S nickel and it was so nice and great tone, def kept it as seemed hardly much in circ
I look thru your store. I like what I saw. I think I may visit your site and order. Ty
I liked your mint sets looking for 1952 s Franklin and 1953 p. Will go on line and order when not working
Totally could find in change in 1914 the Liberty Seated half. A new UNC one was a 1914 Barber? Wow
Great video!
I wouldn't touch a single one of those coins as far as cleaning. The worn ones are what they are, a little different colors from sitting in paper for 100 yrs may add a miniscule of value. The higher grade Au/Bu if cleaned will instantly loose that original "skin" and become very obviously cleaned. Often those environmental damage "grey spots" as seen on the nickels are not removable. You will end up with a shiny AU/BU coin with dull grey spots. I have experimented (and would highly recommend to any collector/dealer to do so) with inexpensive problem coins in various ways (btw is the best way to recognize cleaned coins, what works what does not work ) and found that it almost never turns out with a positive effect. One nickel from the 1940's with a heavy line of dark gray tone I cleaned with a dip, then a bathroom cleaner with acid (called the works) then rubbed with baking soda and finally steel wool. That dark grey line was not just "on top" of the metal it had become part of the metal. the same holds true with black carbon spots on copper coins. Often silver with dark toning is only partially removable and the chemical changes that have taken place are not only "on top" but within the metal itself. If it is mostly common coins in this collection it appears that anything above the silver value would lie in the original 1914 packaging? Imo
Great video
Working at a coin shop can definitely get repetitive although it is interesting. Breaking out blue Whitman wheat penny books gets pretty dull sometimes!
send the 1856-o quarter in for a lowball grade
Ben! Just saw your website and the "Geek Hoard" of four 1904s Morgans! The collector should have concentrated on the key Barber 1913s quarter and semi-key Barber 1913, 1914 and 1915 halves. Image having a roll of 40 BU 1913s Barber quarters
or a roll of 50 BU Mercury 1916d dimes! We can always dream! Be well. Ed
I imagine paper at the turn of the century had more harsh chemical content than modern paper flips of today.
I have to admit that being a collector for 60 years, US coinage ranks low in my estimation in regard to design. Before I get cancelled, or flamed, I understand you comprise possibly the largest number of collectors and enthusiasts in your country, for which I am most happy. Still, the parochial nature of American culture dictates an almost zealot-like rejection of coinage from other countries, much to your impoverishment. Love the old collections like this and thankyou for showing us.
My dream find would be a whole roll of UNC 1909 S VDB pennies! Cool video!
Hope to run into at the Phoenix coin show this weekend.
I also doubt that most or even any of these coins were actually purchased, but rather just taken from change as circulating coins.
Barber coins are hard to find in nice condition.
today that would be true, but not back then.
some of these coins would benefit from conservation services. think about it and weigh the costs vs sell price and profit.
The '93 was the star. With all its wear.
I suspect that the coins weren't purchased, but they were just random change obtained at face value in 1914~16.
Ive commented on a few other replys as well. A few others and myselc as well feel that someone probably swapped out a few of these, or something not on tha up and up is deff going on. Why would someone buy a very circulated 1915 in 1914 when they could pull it out of change? Definately some funny buisness.
Greetings Ben, This is an exciting video - yes several lessons can be learned - but putting that aside - nice trip down memory lane. So this is empirical evidence that coin collecting was alive over 1 years ago (I know people saved / collected coins - but this is cool.
Just curious - what was your first impression when you saw this box? What was going through your mind? Did this box prior to opening it give you an adrenaline rush? Best Wishes
A little acetone and a q-tip may take all that residue off without damaging the coin.
Great Video. I think that these are all circulation finds. The collector just put them in those holders and put the date that he/she found them on the holder and numbered the holder. I was really expecting to see xf/au or even unc. Barbers.
Do you think the person whop put that collection together actually found those coins in circulation and the “purchase date,” is actually the date they found them? The level of wear on a coin that would’ve been like 40 years old at the time is heavy. Most collectors back then only collected ancient or gold coins, nobody really cared about circulating coins until penny boards became popular in the 30’s.
The Barber quarters, hard to believe these are that worn being 10 years old?
I love the song COUNTERFEIT by the Groupe Fantastique!
Dip the Merc!
I think the 1916 Mercs are gorgeous as is! It adds *character* lol
I like the '15 S Buff
Those coins have been switched already is my hunch
And just out of curiosity how come you weren't wearing gloves when you're going through these and you were so brave to touch them with bare hands?
I'm skeptical 10 year old coins could wear down that much.
No thanks. I'm not a serious collector, but I've watched dozens of your videos out of interest and curiosity about US coins. You do a nice job with your UA-cam videos. Keep it up my friend.
90% silver is a lot softer than the cupronickel clad coins we have today. I still see 1965 quarters (57 years old in 2022) that look better than the Seated Liberty coins that he showed that were 41 years old when put away.
My grandfather's dollars were in the same condition...he didn't collect them ...they were just taken "as-is" from change...money was "tight"...!!
Honestly any nice grade old coins were never in circulation or removed early
14:00 He got duped, hehe. Yes, that's probably true
Were any of these for sale or available for purchase somewhere? I would give a lot to have one of them with the original envelope.
Just soak in acetone. Not a hard decision
Price payed would have been invaluable.
Convent that the purchase dates of the 1922 peace dollars were not recorded.
Interesting, but not many keepers.
Purchased in 1914? From who a banks cull box?